| 00:04.34 | golinux | I think it's in contrib |
| 00:04.43 | systemdlete | ah, thank you |
| 00:05.14 | systemdlete | I have contrib enabled, but a search doesn't seem to make it show |
| 00:06.18 | Jjp137 | are you on ascii? if so, it's in ascii-backports in contrib |
| 00:06.21 | Jjp137 | it's not in the main repo |
| 00:06.38 | systemdlete | ok. thanks |
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| 01:37.37 | systemdlete | problem with packaging/dependencies: When I try to install virtualbox, it wants to build the various modules it needs. One of the dependencies is linux-headers, but it is bringing in a different version than the running kernel. So when it tries to load the modules, they fail |
| 01:38.08 | systemdlete | (it builds them correctly, but places them in, of course, the wrong /lib/modules directory) |
| 01:38.41 | systemdlete | I think the dependency should be for the current headers, but I am not the packager. Maybe there is some reason it was done this way |
| 01:39.00 | systemdlete | I am running 4.9.0-6, but the headers it installs are for 4.9.0-9 |
| 01:44.06 | systemdlete | I'm going to install 4.9.0-9 kernel packages, then reboot and try the vbox install again |
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| 01:58.21 | gnarface | systemdlete: my guess is you probably missed a kernel update is all |
| 01:58.43 | systemdlete | idk. I applied updates after rebooting after installation |
| 01:59.13 | gnarface | the kernel isn't updated automatically unless you install the meta-package |
| 01:59.24 | gnarface | you would have had to request it specifically |
| 01:59.48 | systemdlete | afaik I did not request auto kernel updates, no. |
| 02:00.14 | gnarface | amd64 hardware right? just make sure you have linux-image-amd64 and linux-headers-amd64, then they'll both get updated along with everything else |
| 02:00.18 | systemdlete | I also discovered I am already low on space. So I am getting rid of libreoffice. I don't need it on my hosting platform. I have guests for that |
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| 02:22.24 | timeless | Hey DocScrutinizer05 |
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| 05:06.01 | systemdlete | gnarface (and others, if interested): I have the devuan system up on my hardware and virtualbox is working. |
| 05:06.10 | systemdlete | I cannot get ip forwarding to work. |
| 05:06.40 | systemdlete | I can ping from devuan through my firewall VM appliance, even from inside other VMs. |
| 05:06.58 | systemdlete | But I can't ping from a box on my LAN |
| 05:07.35 | systemdlete | the physical interfaces are exposed ONLY to devuan (the firewall appliance does not see them) |
| 05:08.30 | systemdlete | there is 1 special physical appliance that the firewall VM DOES see, but that devuan has set to address 192.0.2.0 (per official IANA std, for test network purposes) |
| 05:08.59 | systemdlete | This is precisely how it is set up on CentOS 6 where it does work. |
| 05:09.32 | systemdlete | I am running kernel 4.9.0-9-amd64 |
| 05:10.18 | systemdlete | <PROTECTED> |
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| 05:14.00 | systemdlete | y'know... |
| 05:14.15 | systemdlete | I wonder if iptables packet forwarding also needs enabling... |
| 05:20.11 | systemdlete | bb in a bit |
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| 06:19.16 | Wonka | DocScrutinizer05: DualStack, meaning IPv4 and IPv6 |
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| 08:23.31 | systemdlete | kicks his feet up, all smiles |
| 08:23.57 | systemdlete | My problem was chiefly that, although I had enabled ip forwarding, I did not have firewall rules set up |
| 08:24.30 | systemdlete | There were numerous finger checks throughout the exercise, of course, and those took some time to correct |
| 08:25.19 | systemdlete | Now I have more or less the same configuration as I had on my old CentOS 6 partition... and now I am free to move on without it |
| 08:25.52 | systemdlete | The same approach should work on my hyperbola partition. Of course, there are other issues there, but eventually they will likely get sorted out. |
| 08:27.29 | systemdlete | thanks to all who helped. Greatly appreciated, as you could imagine. |
| 08:31.36 | systemdlete | ugh. more problems. |
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| 15:20.22 | DocScrutinizer05 | Wonka: aah DualStack. Well aliexpress has some nasty blacklist based rejection so purposefully redirects me to some pseudo-404 no matter which URL I click. This is however cookie- and IP-related and not s DS problem |
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| 15:38.15 | detha | DocScrutinizer05: just to see who uses which blacklist, does https://uk.rs-online.com/web/ work for you? |
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| 16:18.34 | DocScrutinizer05 | seems to work, yes |
| 16:27.14 | detha | cool, thanks. different blacklist then |
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| 18:19.05 | Wonka | DocScrutinizer05: seems they don't want to do business with you then |
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| 18:33.51 | DocScrutinizer05 | Wonka: yes, something was messed up with my cookies and my IP. Since I deleted *all* aliex cookies it works again |
| 18:34.08 | DocScrutinizer05 | it also worked as long as I used a VPN |
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| 18:57.57 | timeless | DocScrutinizer05: heya |
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| 19:36.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | hi timeless |
| 19:37.14 | timeless | is fighting ipv6 and sometimes losing |
| 19:37.25 | timeless | any experience w/ it? |
| 19:37.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | gave up and tries to steer clear og IPv6 |
| 19:38.13 | timeless | any suggestions of gurus? |
| 19:38.57 | DocScrutinizer05 | I understand v4 somewhat. I might learn how v6 works. But I don't feel like learning how v4 and v6 work concurrently |
| 19:40.02 | DocScrutinizer05 | netwotk folks. They are incredible. Also ##ubnt |
| 19:40.13 | timeless | `netwotk`? |
| 19:40.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | r |
| 19:40.24 | timeless | `##network`? |
| 19:40.31 | DocScrutinizer05 | well... |
| 19:40.39 | DocScrutinizer05 | ##networking |
| 19:41.00 | DocScrutinizer05 | though the term was meant more generic |
| 19:42.30 | timeless | tries ##ubnt |
| 19:42.42 | DocScrutinizer05 | in ##ubnt they helped me out of really idiotic trouble a few times |
| 19:43.04 | DocScrutinizer05 | not it's a ubiquiti router specific channel! |
| 19:43.10 | DocScrutinizer05 | note* |
| 19:43.56 | DocScrutinizer05 | I don't suggest pestering them with too generic questions unless you got a ubiquiti device ;-) |
| 19:45.13 | timeless | oops |
| 19:45.21 | timeless | it's ok, i think i found my problem |
| 19:45.31 | timeless | this non-working computer is in google compute engine |
| 19:45.43 | timeless | and i'm wondering if 6to4 doesn't work to that |
| 19:49.21 | timeless | https://stackoverflow.com/questions/31066205/how-to-allow-protocol-41-6in4-through-the-gce-firewall |
| 19:49.30 | DocScrutinizer05 | timeless: an excellent preset to ask for confirmation in ##networking |
| 19:49.49 | timeless | nah, at this point i'm confident i've found the problem |
| 19:50.09 | DocScrutinizer05 | even then it's worth sharing the solution with others there |
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