| 00:00.20 | golinux | slvr: No need to use Debian repos directly . . . ever. |
| 00:00.51 | slvr | golinux: right you are, I was looking for how they did it, noticed no systemd deps, and figured the same package name would be available. |
| 00:00.54 | gnarface | reubyawn: i'm not sure about the WAV files. try it and find out. |
| 00:01.25 | slvr | starting hexchat from a terminal might give you some console message desribing the problem when the test button is clicked. |
| 00:01.36 | golinux | Devuan pulls in filtered Debian packages by redirect |
| 00:01.57 | slvr | yep, I didn't complete my thought when I linked to the debian repos. |
| 00:02.41 | slvr | my mistake. :) |
| 00:04.31 | reubyawn | golinux, plz translate the https . . . |
| 00:04.48 | golinux | Don't understand the question |
| 00:06.04 | reubyawn | What does that address you just posted do and how? |
| 00:06.30 | gnarface | it's the package search page, reubyawn. |
| 00:06.45 | gnarface | it proves the package you asked about is present in devuan |
| 00:07.08 | golinux | I thought you were asking about how the redirect works: https://dev1galaxy.org/files/amprolla.png |
| 00:07.21 | reubyawn | done |
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| 00:23.56 | fsmithred | there's also gnome-packagekit which used to be called update-notifier. I haven't tried it, but it looks like it'll install in my ascii without pulling in a lot of other stuff. |
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| 15:25.19 | xinomilo | beowulf server, just upgraded and got hit by this : https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=915947 |
| 15:25.22 | xinomilo | FYI |
| 15:26.42 | xinomilo | as a workaround, removed all `rm -rf /usr/share/locale/*gmo` and retried grub-install with success |
| 15:28.23 | xinomilo | grub2: Installed: 2.02+dfsg1-18 |
| 15:30.32 | Evilham | oh |
| 15:30.36 | Evilham | that's nasty |
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| 18:25.17 | lru | a long time ago it was recommended to me to use pkgmaster.devuan.org in my /etc/apt/sources.list... is that still true? |
| 18:36.15 | buZz | heh, systemd bug on all AMD cpus? :P https://twitter.com/FiloSottile/status/1125840275346198529 |
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| 18:38.45 | buZz | lru: i got nl.deb.devuan.org cause its where i want them from anyway :P |
| 18:39.01 | buZz | but dno if either is adviced upon |
| 18:40.37 | lru | thanks buZz |
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| 18:49.51 | golinux | lru: pkgmaster populates the mirrors of the deb.devuan.org round robin |
| 18:50.19 | golinux | pkgmater was suggested before the rr was set up. |
| 18:51.37 | lru | thanks golinux |
| 18:53.31 | buZz | deb.devuan is the rr dns? |
| 18:53.43 | golinux | yes |
| 18:53.46 | buZz | and TLD.deb is just limiting to a single region i guess |
| 18:54.08 | golinux | yes iiuc |
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| 19:54.55 | _abc_ | Hello. Can someone remind me how I can undo an upgrade request dialed into aptitude? I hit u by mistake. |
| 19:55.10 | _abc_ | The selection is persistent. What does one delete/edit to undo this? |
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| 20:07.48 | Y_Plentyn | hi! is any1 here willing to help manning a booth at FrOSCon (Germany, St. Augustin near Bonn) |
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| 20:20.47 | xrogaan | I'm deeply afraid of people. |
| 20:21.04 | xrogaan | You never know where they've been, urgh, filthy! |
| 20:21.32 | Y_Plentyn | xrogaan: the cancer of the earth, I know |
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| 20:33.51 | golinux | Infestation |
| 20:34.06 | golinux | Y_Plentyn: Hi there |
| 20:34.20 | Y_Plentyn | grins at golinux |
| 20:34.39 | golinux | Haven't seen you around since the conf |
| 20:35.00 | Y_Plentyn | I am not normally at freenode |
| 20:35.09 | Y_Plentyn | (and barely on irc) |
| 20:35.19 | golinux | Ah . . . |
| 20:35.38 | Y_Plentyn | and I try to keep my input streams manageable |
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| 20:39.41 | fsmithred | ping |
| 20:39.55 | gnarface | acknowledged, fsmithred |
| 20:40.04 | golinux | pong |
| 20:40.10 | fsmithred | trying to figure out what time it is |
| 20:40.25 | fsmithred | ok, got it |
| 20:40.41 | golinux | Time to look at openbox for cinnaber? |
| 20:40.43 | fsmithred | irc logs are in a different time zone, but now I'm calibrated |
| 20:40.54 | fsmithred | nope. I'm not home yet. |
| 20:40.55 | Y_Plentyn | pong |
| 20:40.59 | fsmithred | and it's not going well |
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| 20:45.25 | fsmithred | I've got a raid 1 (pair and spare) with lvm on it, was running out of space and added an external drive to the lvm. Now I'm trying to reduce it to two drives in the raid and add a second raid with two bigger drives for the full lv. |
| 20:46.26 | fsmithred | gonna try a reboot in 15 minutes |
| 20:46.29 | golinux | 's head swims |
| 20:46.55 | fsmithred | mine too |
| 20:47.27 | golinux | I figured . . . |
| 20:48.12 | golinux | Take a break. Look what I found this morning http://www.sci-news.com/biology/pointy-nosed-blue-chimaera-04463.html |
| 20:48.40 | golinux | Doing research for the Chimeara release. |
| 20:48.55 | fsmithred | is that a potential mascot? |
| 20:48.56 | golinux | I think I know what colors it will be. |
| 20:49.19 | fsmithred | you're gonna do blue?? |
| 20:49.21 | golinux | I thought of that |
| 20:49.58 | golinux | Yup. Might even have a ghosty chimeara in there somewhere. |
| 20:53.36 | Xenguy | "I can't stand it, you know what it is? It's the smell!" |
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| 20:53.59 | Xenguy | ^^ Agent Smith unravelling ... |
| 20:54.24 | fsmithred | Agent Smith? |
| 20:54.38 | fsmithred | You don't mean Winston Smith, do you? |
| 20:54.45 | MinceR | "Never send a human to do a machine's job." |
| 20:54.51 | Xenguy | hah |
| 20:55.01 | Xenguy | WS, doesn't he make guns? |
| 20:55.18 | fsmithred | no, that's Smith and Wesson |
| 20:55.28 | golinux | Xenguy: And this channel goes really OT |
| 20:55.28 | Xenguy | This is just plain ol' "Agent 'You all look the same to me' Smith" |
| 20:55.31 | fsmithred | and I don't know if that's the oil people |
| 20:55.32 | Xenguy | oh right |
| 20:55.51 | Xenguy | It's true, it's just so tempting to talk, |
| 20:56.32 | fsmithred | in about five minutes I might be tempted to start swearing like you've never heard (or seen) |
| 20:57.12 | golinux | Please take it to #debianfork. ;) |
| 20:57.29 | Xenguy | We welcome that kind of behavior here on this channel, but only if it's On Topic |
| 20:58.39 | fsmithred | well, I can't even claim that it's devuan 'cause it's still wheezy. |
| 20:58.53 | fsmithred | but it will be devuan when I upgrade it soon |
| 20:59.08 | fsmithred | or reinstall if that's the case |
| 20:59.11 | fsmithred | brb |
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| 20:59.51 | slvr | upgrading a wheezy machine to devuan has worked very well for me so far. Done a few desktops and a few linux containers. |
| 21:01.35 | buZz | i wish upgrading a devuan jessie to devuan ascii wouldnt kill LXC containers on proxmox :( |
| 21:01.55 | fsmithred | yeah, upgrade is easy |
| 21:01.56 | buZz | maybe beowulf will be better |
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| 21:02.16 | fsmithred | ascii to beowulf upgrades I've done were very easy |
| 21:02.29 | fsmithred | easier than jessie to ascii |
| 21:04.55 | buZz | right, i just mean , if i have a proxmox lxc running jessie, if i upgrade it to beowulf its a broken system |
| 21:05.15 | buZz | upgrade it to ascii* |
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| 22:04.37 | slvr | isn't that because jessie is already systemd? I had a really hard time upgrading directly from debian jessie to devuan jessie on a desktop workstation.... in a container I think it would be even harder. |
| 22:09.03 | Xenguy | I've always heard that it was an easy upgrade, but haven't tried myself |
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| 22:25.54 | buZz | slvr: upgrading devuan jessie to devuan ascii breaks a LXC container's ability to function |
| 22:26.50 | KatolaZ | buZz: it's just one option away in the lxc config file |
| 22:27.12 | buZz | KatolaZ: oooo , mind telling me which? :D |
| 22:33.37 | fsmithred | primary gpt table is corrupt - everything I'm reading says it's usually the secondary that's corrupt. Is there a way to fix it? |
| 22:34.09 | fsmithred | I tried gdisk, p - everthing looks ok, then w, and it writes, but gparted still gives that error |
| 22:34.13 | fsmithred | can I ignore it? |
| 22:36.26 | gnarface | fsmithred: sounds familiar |
| 22:38.40 | gnarface | fsmithred: something about replacing a MSDOS partition table that used to boot windows 7 with a GPT partition table, and gparted couldn't fully remove some random weird MSDOS partition table flag from the middle of the GPT sector because it was supposed to be untouched as per spec, maybe? i recall after extensive googling that i found a way to clear it properly with sfdisk or cfdisk |
| 22:38.53 | specing | fsmithred: there is a checksum in there |
| 22:39.01 | specing | fsmithred: so if it says its the primary, its the primary |
| 22:39.48 | gnarface | fsmithred: (using dd to zero the first couple megabytes of the disk should suffice too, but probably isn't what you want if you were trying to rescue the partitions) |
| 22:40.25 | fsmithred | yeah, I saw the think about old msdos partition table, but these are new drives |
| 22:40.29 | fsmithred | 4T |
| 22:40.59 | fsmithred | right, I copied 1.1T of files to it already |
| 22:41.33 | gnarface | did it ever boot windows 7? |
| 22:41.38 | fsmithred | nope |
| 22:41.45 | fsmithred | never booted anything |
| 22:41.47 | gnarface | hmm. i got nothing then |
| 22:41.55 | fsmithred | ok, thanks for trying |
| 22:42.04 | fsmithred | I probably need to start over |
| 22:42.20 | gnarface | i wonder if it could actually be a bios incompatibility with the 4T drive size |
| 22:42.51 | fsmithred | shouldn't be - it's not that old |
| 22:43.00 | golinux | Even as hardware challenged as I am, I had that thought |
| 22:43.01 | fsmithred | hm |
| 22:43.33 | fsmithred | using legacy/csm not uefi |
| 22:44.24 | gnarface | i still haven't tested anything larger than 1T here |
| 22:45.24 | fsmithred | now I can't remember what command I used, but in terminal it said... |
| 22:45.38 | fsmithred | T |
| 22:45.43 | fsmithred | oh |
| 22:45.47 | fsmithred | no slashes |
| 22:45.57 | fsmithred | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:46.04 | fsmithred | then next line |
| 22:46.10 | fsmithred | the primary gpt table is corrupt |
| 22:46.20 | fsmithred | but it doesn't say which drive |
| 22:46.36 | gnarface | oh, right you said you were setting up a raid array with LVM on it, i also have never tried that yet |
| 22:46.46 | fsmithred | a raid array made on partitions would not have a partition table would it? |
| 22:47.19 | fsmithred | just the disks would have it. correct? |
| 22:47.29 | gnarface | pairing LVM with raid might be a source of additional complications, but i believe that a raid array DOES have partitions |
| 22:47.43 | gnarface | as in you are supposed to partition the raid array AFTER striping all the drives |
| 22:47.58 | fsmithred | that's what the lvm is for |
| 22:48.47 | gnarface | there's a way to make it work but i don't know what it is. i just remember that keeps coming up; raid + LVM faceplants without some extra step |
| 22:49.12 | fsmithred | it's been working for almost 4 years |
| 22:49.22 | gnarface | oh, really? hmmm... |
| 22:49.27 | gnarface | weird |
| 22:49.36 | fsmithred | well, I'm sure I did something wrong |
| 22:50.18 | fsmithred | brb |
| 23:09.52 | buZz | KatolaZ: why noooooot |
| 23:09.53 | buZz | :D |
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| 23:18.55 | slvr | buZz: my web container is running ,Devuan GNU/Linux beowulf/ceres, upgraded wheezy > devuan jessie > ascii > beowulf |
| 23:19.17 | slvr | I just stopped it, made a backup, and yolo'd on through with only php package issues. |
| 23:20.12 | buZz | slvr: :D |
| 23:20.21 | buZz | on what host platform? |
| 23:20.31 | slvr | slackware 14.2 |
| 23:20.48 | buZz | ah, just lxc from scratch then? |
| 23:20.56 | buZz | or virt-manager perhps |
| 23:21.05 | slvr | lxc template for debian containers was copied from a debian lxc host |
| 23:21.37 | slvr | I use lxc download to make new containers |
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