| 00:00.26 | gnarface | Syllin: yea there's a second flag about local time vs grenwitch mean time(spelling?) |
| 00:00.32 | gnarface | i just don't remember exactly where it is |
| 00:00.54 | gnarface | i thought that "dpkg-reconfigure tzdata" gave you access to it, but maybe you have to have your debconf threshold changed for it to ask that |
| 00:01.44 | gnarface | it has to do with what time value goes into the bios at shutdown or (re)boot time |
| 00:02.02 | gnarface | it can either store the literal time, or it can store it as an offset from UTC, defined by the time zone |
| 00:02.28 | gnarface | it's better to use UTC because then if you change the location of the computer, you can fix the clock by just changing the timezone offset, rather than having to shift the literal time |
| 00:03.05 | gnarface | but as you can see it's obviously not even apparent this is happening until you have to share the hardware with an OS that does it differently and then they don't agree anymore between reboots |
| 00:05.18 | Syllin | i can't even fathom what those bytes written to the bios would be, unless it was an unsigned int representing time past the epoch |
| 00:05.36 | Syllin | so i'm kind of at a loss because evidently people are using some other representation sometimes |
| 00:06.13 | furrywolf | the obvious solution would be not to use other OSes with broken clock systems. :) |
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| 00:11.19 | fsmithred | Syllin, this one looks promising: https://superuser.com/questions/975717/does-windows-10-support-utc-as-bios-time |
| 00:11.40 | Leander | I was going to post that same thread :) |
| 00:15.29 | gnarface | Syllin: i think it is actually an unsigned int representing the time past the epoch |
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| 00:32.26 | gnarface | Syllin: if you're still trying to use "dpkg-reconfigure tzdata" to change between local time and UTC, look at the bottom of the timezone list for something like "etc" or "none of the above" |
| 00:32.42 | gnarface | that might give you other options on the next panel |
| 00:32.57 | Syllin | thanks |
| 00:33.07 | gnarface | i'm sure you can find a low-level, distro-agnostic way to change it, but you should be able to really do this just with debian native tools |
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| 00:34.02 | Syllin | gnarface: https://asciinema.org/a/UNfb7xxQzpEQMIqHBm6XHbIvk |
| 00:34.07 | booyah | omg it's a furry |
| 00:34.08 | booyah | sezie it |
| 00:34.14 | Syllin | i'll just change on windows for now, would be nice if it were straightforwrd either way i guess |
| 00:34.18 | booyah | puts on hazmat and throws large net @ furrywolf |
| 00:34.26 | Syllin | thanks fsmithred leander gnarface |
| 00:34.51 | gnarface | Syllin: no problem. either way, the important part is it works. |
| 00:37.40 | gnarface | Syllin: (it also asks you at install time, if you're in expert mode. maybe not in regular mode though) |
| 00:37.52 | gnarface | just for future reference, that might help next time |
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| 09:04.37 | gour | morning |
| 09:05.25 | gour | i've noticed that thunar does not provide 'create archive' option despite of having thunar-archive-plugin installed? |
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| 13:38.24 | nemo | is there an svg version of the purple yourway? |
| 13:38.41 | nemo | wanna see if MATE's default on lockscreen of "zoom" avoids ugly blurring |
| 13:38.52 | nemo | for now I just switched my background to some gradient stuff |
| 13:39.20 | nemo | https://i.imgur.com/OqH4GUk.jpg â that one |
| 13:39.43 | nemo | avoids ugly blurring with an svg that is |
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| 15:31.22 | fsmithred | nemo, darkpurpy: https://git.devuan.org/devuan-packages/desktop-base/tree/master/backgrounds |
| 15:31.34 | fsmithred | and lightpurpy: https://git.devuan.org/devuan-packages/desktop-base/tree/suites/jessie/backgrounds |
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| 17:02.56 | nemo | fsmithred: thanks |
| 17:03.17 | nemo | should maybe include https://git.devuan.org/devuan-packages/desktop-base/blob/master/backgrounds/your-way_darkpurpy-wide-large.svg in the install |
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| 17:06.44 | nemo | oh! it is already! |
| 17:06.46 | nemo | I'm just blind |
| 17:06.50 | nemo | updates /etc/alternatives |
| 17:08.04 | nemo | hm. well that helps. less blurry at least |
| 17:08.17 | nemo | still a little blurry oddly |
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| 17:19.14 | fsmithred | look around and you can probably find the cinnabar bg |
| 17:22.45 | golinux | https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=15024#p15024 |
| 17:23.25 | golinux | Hmmm . . . but I dont have the svg there. |
| 17:24.10 | golinux | I could post it somewhere |
| 17:44.54 | fsmithred | oh right, it won't be on git until someone* puts it there. (I think that's me.) |
| 17:45.17 | fsmithred | got houseguests now. bbl. |
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