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| 02:07.42 | _x0r_ | hello |
| 02:08.22 | _x0r_ | wants to have devuan instead of debian⦠|
| 02:08.45 | _x0r_ | is that possible on a remote way? |
| 02:09.08 | DonkeyHotei | from what version of debian? |
| 02:09.29 | DonkeyHotei | jessie? or stretch? |
| 02:10.10 | _x0r_ | cat /etc/debian_version shows 9 |
| 02:10.50 | _x0r_ | currently only apache2 is in use |
| 02:11.02 | DonkeyHotei | https://devuan.org/os/documentation/dev1fanboy/ is the guide usually linked for that, but idk if it works for version 9 |
| 02:11.40 | _x0r_ | it's in use, so i need some guide which works |
| 02:12.04 | Xenguy | 9 = ? |
| 02:12.24 | gnarface | stretch is 9 |
| 02:12.31 | Xenguy | so post-ascii |
| 02:12.33 | _x0r_ | yes |
| 02:12.39 | gnarface | you should be able to install devuan in a chroot or VM no problem |
| 02:12.48 | DonkeyHotei | jessie is 8 |
| 02:12.55 | Xenguy | tx |
| 02:13.17 | DonkeyHotei | gnarface: _x0r_ is asking about migrating in place |
| 02:13.17 | gnarface | there might still be an outstanding problem with debian's debootstrap, not sure about that. but you can just replace theirs with the devuan one first, if so. |
| 02:13.25 | _x0r_ | this server is hosting an open source mirror |
| 02:13.40 | _x0r_ | please stay true |
| 02:13.57 | gnarface | oh, migrating in place is more risky, but people have succeeded at it. |
| 02:14.02 | Xenguy | devuan == true |
| 02:14.04 | _x0r_ | has not direct acces |
| 02:14.51 | gnarface | read the forum for info on problems people have had |
| 02:14.56 | _x0r_ | only remote ssh thing |
| 02:15.06 | DonkeyHotei | the question is about migrating in place on a production server without console access |
| 02:15.24 | _x0r_ | ssh is available⦠|
| 02:15.26 | gnarface | there could be just some package conflicts that might cause you to panic, that's something worth trying locally first |
| 02:15.37 | gnarface | ... and reading the forum about |
| 02:16.12 | Xenguy | loves ssh, but doesn't get to use it much anymore ... |
| 02:16.52 | _x0r_ | is using devuan in private⦠|
| 02:17.01 | _x0r_ | base install and compiling the rest |
| 02:17.07 | _x0r_ | don't get me áºrong |
| 02:17.48 | _x0r_ | but at some things, i need to change⦠|
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| 02:18.00 | Ryushin | I've converted a VM from Stretch to Ascii with no issues. It was very simple though. SSH was really the only thing installed. |
| 02:18.02 | Xenguy | Sorry about that Chief... |
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| 02:18.21 | _x0r_ | vm is not a hardware |
| 02:18.28 | Xenguy | The Olde 'Beam my work desktop to my home terminal' trick! |
| 02:18.42 | Xenguy | Thanks SSH |
| 02:18.46 | _x0r_ | trick? |
| 02:18.55 | Xenguy | Olde reference |
| 02:19.10 | Xenguy | There was an SSH gateway... |
| 02:19.11 | _x0r_ | got it |
| 02:19.17 | Xenguy | Where I worked... |
| 02:19.49 | Xenguy | And some genius figured out that you could use that channel to do an 'rdesktop' thing... |
| 02:20.01 | Xenguy | I forget the name of the protocol (RDP?) |
| 02:20.04 | _x0r_ | nevermind, i'll stay here for a solution |
| 02:20.11 | Xenguy | It was amazing |
| 02:20.21 | Xenguy | But I'm probably OT |
| 02:20.24 | _x0r_ | xD |
| 02:20.30 | _x0r_ | remote desktop shity |
| 02:20.42 | Xenguy | No it was perfect |
| 02:20.44 | Ryushin | _x0r_: Solution to what? Converting Stretch to Ascii? |
| 02:20.48 | Xenguy | Native time |
| 02:21.02 | DonkeyHotei | debian to devuan |
| 02:21.06 | Xenguy | Yes! |
| 02:21.14 | _x0r_ | converting a fucking debian to debuan remotly |
| 02:21.24 | Xenguy | Bite the bullet |
| 02:21.25 | _x0r_ | devuan (sry) |
| 02:21.40 | Xenguy | It worked for me once |
| 02:22.33 | DonkeyHotei | _x0r_: if you can, back the system up to a vm, then try converting the vm for practice |
| 02:22.47 | Ryushin | Don't see what it would not work remotely. Just put the devuan apt sources in, installed the devuan-keyring, install the sysvinit stuff. It will make you reboot once to finally be able to purge systemd though. |
| 02:23.03 | _x0r_ | DonkeyHotei: all of this is hardly running on pure hardware |
| 02:23.28 | _x0r_ | my english sucks, but i don't care about that |
| 02:23.33 | _x0r_ | :s |
| 02:24.00 | Xenguy | Why would English become the most popular language in the world? |
| 02:24.14 | Xenguy | It's a freak of nature |
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| 02:27.28 | _xOr_ | sry (24h cut) |
| 02:27.56 | Xenguy | Don't be sorry, it's alright |
| 02:28.23 | _xOr_ | just respect man |
| 02:28.34 | Xenguy | "You've got 255 seconds to comply ..." |
| 02:28.42 | booyah | Xenguy: because china number 2 |
| 02:28.44 | booyah | usa number 1 |
| 02:29.00 | Xenguy | Maybe |
| 02:29.13 | _xOr_ | i choose 256 |
| 02:29.21 | Xenguy | 156! |
| 02:29.21 | _xOr_ | we can calc after |
| 02:29.42 | _xOr_ | tell why |
| 02:29.46 | Xenguy | haha |
| 02:30.15 | _xOr_ | :P |
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| 02:30.52 | Xenguy | I always liked the number |
| 02:31.04 | Xenguy | It sounds strange, but it's true |
| 02:31.22 | Xenguy | Then I found out it means other things |
| 02:31.31 | Xenguy | But it ends there |
| 02:31.35 | _xOr_ | i don't want to think about ciphers :s |
| 02:31.48 | Xenguy | I know, it gets annoying after awhile |
| 02:32.07 | Xenguy | Good word too, cypher |
| 02:32.50 | _xOr_ | needs help leaving debian to devuan! |
| 02:32.55 | Xenguy | -> references the Matrix character too |
| 02:33.07 | Xenguy | _xOr_: Ask |
| 02:33.31 | _xOr_ | what is the best way |
| 02:33.51 | _xOr_ | editing /etc/apt/sources.list ? |
| 02:33.55 | Xenguy | What's you Current State? |
| 02:33.58 | Xenguy | oh |
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| 02:34.25 | Xenguy | Why not, if you're comfortable with a text editor? |
| 02:34.32 | _xOr_ | providing http(s) services |
| 02:34.38 | _xOr_ | that's all |
| 02:34.48 | _xOr_ | apache2 is in use⦠|
| 02:34.56 | Xenguy | What's the question? |
| 02:35.18 | _xOr_ | again: switching from debian 2 devuan!! |
| 02:35.28 | Xenguy | What version of debian are you running? |
| 02:35.46 | Xenguy | Apologies, I'm distracted |
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| 02:37.30 | DonkeyHotei | Xenguy: stretch to ascii |
| 02:38.12 | _xOr_ | ty DonkeyHotei |
| 02:39.36 | Xenguy | Is there a howto for that? |
| 02:40.01 | Xenguy | I know there are various migration paths/howtos |
| 02:40.12 | Xenguy | But not sure about this use case |
| 02:40.27 | Xenguy | On the forums, typically |
| 02:40.41 | _xOr_ | Xenguy: it's an indivudal setup for a true gnu linux distri |
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| 02:40.59 | _xOr_ | and i want to switch⦠|
| 02:41.31 | Xenguy | I always tried to follow someone who had gone before |
| 02:41.55 | Xenguy | It's almost rare that someone hasn't crossed that bridge first |
| 02:41.55 | _xOr_ | ok i don't have to hide something |
| 02:42.07 | _xOr_ | you could ask me in private |
| 02:42.20 | Xenguy | I'm sorry, I must have missed something |
| 02:42.23 | _xOr_ | again |
| 02:42.24 | Xenguy | Pardon me |
| 02:42.46 | _xOr_ | i need to switch from a debain to devuan distri |
| 02:42.50 | _xOr_ | no problem |
| 02:43.03 | _xOr_ | thx for helping |
| 02:43.21 | Xenguy | You just need to find the documentation from someone who has gone before you... |
| 02:43.40 | Xenguy | Stick around this channel, and others may see your question, and help more than me |
| 02:43.59 | Xenguy | golinux is often very helpful |
| 02:44.11 | specing | _xOr_: check the forums? |
| 02:44.18 | Xenguy | Exactly |
| 02:44.23 | specing | _xOr_: do you use btrfs/ZFS by any chance? |
| 02:44.54 | specing | on those you could just install into another subvolume and then reboot into it |
| 02:45.26 | _xOr_ | specing: mkfs.ext4 only for data, boot is ext2 |
| 02:46.16 | _xOr_ | sda1 /boot |
| 02:46.21 | _xOr_ | sda2 /swap |
| 02:46.31 | _xOr_ | sd3 /root (aka data) |
| 02:46.54 | specing | not even LVM? |
| 02:47.02 | specing | Well, too bad. |
| 02:47.14 | _xOr_ | would'nt be a problem |
| 02:48.16 | _xOr_ | just tell me which way |
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| 02:49.57 | specing | you could try installing it somewhere else, verifying that it works and then rsync it over active server |
| 02:50.39 | _xOr_ | situation: remote is only accessable by ssh |
| 02:50.55 | _xOr_ | so i have to find a solution |
| 02:51.11 | specing | or you could prepare a whole disk image and then cat image | ssh root@remote 'dd of=/dev/sda bs=64k' |
| 02:51.13 | _xOr_ | i could not press a button remote |
| 02:51.17 | _xOr_ | understand that? |
| 02:51.27 | specing | this also lets you install with btrfs |
| 02:51.48 | specing | you have no management console available? |
| 02:52.15 | _xOr_ | i know what is possible, but i now what mostly fails⦠|
| 02:52.46 | _xOr_ | one thing for open source, get it like that⦠|
| 02:54.37 | _xOr_ | could i hate systemd here? |
| 02:55.03 | _xOr_ | is afk |
| 02:55.09 | _xOr_ | brb |
| 02:59.24 | DonkeyHotei | yes |
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| 03:33.17 | _xOr_ | re |
| 03:33.55 | _xOr_ | example: |
| 03:34.12 | _xOr_ | solutiom for giving other people the right to reboot? |
| 03:34.33 | _xOr_ | my opionion, sudo has done this job⦠|
| 03:35.33 | _xOr_ | but now, ok that's off-topic not beling to devuan - sorry |
| 03:36.33 | _xOr_ | ./s/beling/below/ |
| 03:37.43 | _xOr_ | last try - anybody has an idea for switching? |
| 03:38.55 | _xOr_ | debian version == 9; uname -a == 4.9.144-3.1 |
| 03:39.18 | _xOr_ | thx for help! |
| 03:39.49 | _xOr_ | as i don't lose ssh access every solution is welcome! |
| 03:41.10 | _xOr_ | may will out with an mirror |
| 03:41.27 | _xOr_ | stay true! |
| 03:43.04 | _xOr_ | akku from remote fails, :s (some words missing) |
| 03:44.33 | _xOr_ | what's up? |
| 03:44.37 | _xOr_ | any dev here? |
| 03:48.54 | _x0r_ | again |
| 03:49.09 | _x0r_ | may could help with some mirror |
| 03:50.59 | _x0r_ | just help this little thing, please⦠|
| 03:54.42 | _x0r_ | if anyone from here successful switching, i'll provide an high performance mirror! |
| 03:54.59 | _x0r_ | helps successfully ⦠|
| 03:59.05 | _x0r_ | located at datacenter⦠|
| 03:59.33 | _x0r_ | EOF |
| 03:59.34 | golinux | _x0r_: Bad timing for you atm. Most devs who could help are sleeping. Unfortunately, I don't do remote, |
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| 04:00.28 | golinux | Did you see these guides? https://devuan.org/os/documentation/dev1fanboy/ |
| 04:00.56 | _x0r_ | ok, it would be seen |
| 04:01.25 | _x0r_ | i'm not the person who cares about rules |
| 04:01.46 | golinux | You might also want to look at the release notes: https://files.devuan.org/devuan_ascii/Release_notes.txt |
| 04:01.55 | golinux | There are a few gottchas |
| 04:03.17 | golinux | You'll need to check your sources.list: https://devuan.org/os/etc/apt/sources.list |
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| 04:20.25 | _xOr_ | re |
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| 04:42.04 | _xOr_ | it's me mario :D |
| 04:45.38 | _xOr_ | again, providing fast servers for mirroring, just help me out this situation, thx |
| 04:46.14 | _xOr_ | testing no problem⦠|
| 04:47.02 | _xOr_ | GNU for live! |
| 04:48.24 | golinux | _xOr_: There will be people here in 3-4 hours. |
| 04:49.34 | _xOr_ | i know |
| 04:49.51 | _xOr_ | ty |
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| 04:51.04 | _xOr_ | would be hard, but 3 hours where possible⦠|
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| 05:26.21 | _x0r_ | as always stay true |
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| 18:31.56 | tuxd3v | hello all |
| 18:32.01 | tuxd3v | good afternoon |
| 18:33.31 | gnarface | get your stuff all working? |
| 18:34.07 | tuxd3v | not yet, but I am closer |
| 18:34.43 | tuxd3v | I have a Frankenstein cross-tool-chain now |
| 18:34.59 | tuxd3v | A mix between linaro 4.9 and linaro 7.1 |
| 18:35.23 | tuxd3v | But I am fixing some stuff and I am planning ti jump to 8.x |
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| 20:50.47 | tuxd3v | Hurra |
| 20:50.53 | tuxd3v | somke progress here |
| 20:51.05 | tuxd3v | but only using a fb-dev device no Mali |
| 20:51.07 | tuxd3v | yet |
| 20:51.20 | tuxd3v | and CPU is a very Hot... |
| 20:51.25 | tuxd3v | its not normal.. |
| 20:51.38 | tuxd3v | the normal would be 35C in standby |
| 20:52.10 | tuxd3v | I got 51C |
| 20:52.15 | tuxd3v | puff |
| 20:52.26 | tuxd3v | after boot |
| 20:52.31 | tuxd3v | xfce |
| 20:52.41 | tuxd3v | only with xterm and chromium |
| 20:52.48 | tuxd3v | around 186 MB |
| 20:53.07 | tuxd3v | but after some time, it goes 206MB |
| 20:53.49 | tuxd3v | anny way |
| 20:54.06 | tuxd3v | Does any one knows how to properly set the Display resolution? |
| 20:54.13 | tuxd3v | I am using hdmi |
| 20:54.23 | tuxd3v | hdmi to VGA |
| 20:54.37 | tuxd3v | 1080x1050@60 Hz |
| 20:54.41 | tuxd3v | display |
| 20:54.42 | KatolaZ | which display> |
| 20:54.43 | KatolaZ | ? |
| 20:54.46 | KatolaZ | the external one? |
| 20:54.48 | tuxd3v | but edid not recognized |
| 20:54.59 | KatolaZ | just use xrandr |
| 20:55.05 | KatolaZ | or arandr |
| 20:56.49 | tuxd3v | I only have one display |
| 20:56.53 | tuxd3v | its external |
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| 21:11.44 | tuxd3v | This is were II got: |
| 21:11.47 | tuxd3v | https://paste2.org/zDzhj8ZJ |
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