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| 02:08.04 | DocScrutinizer05 | ttkv: you don't want to send that commend, even with correct leading / |
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| 06:47.36 | amarsh04 | I have plasmashell running fine on my i386 installation but not my x86-64 installation on another machine - do you think I'd be alright asking for troubleshooting help in #debian-kde ? |
| 06:51.00 | golinux | That might not work because devuan uses eudev not udev and the session management is tailored differently. |
| 06:51.34 | golinux | You might want to look a the release notes. https://files.devuan.org/devuan_ascii/Release_notes.txt |
| 06:53.03 | golinux | Everything is explained in there. Debian devs won't know a thing about that. Of course your issue might be independent of that . . . |
| 07:08.19 | amarsh04 | thanks golinux - given that aside from the i386 / x86-64 difference, the two machines are running the same versions of KDE-related software and this issue has persisted for several weeks in the x86-64 machine, I suspect it is more of a configuration issue than the actual executables / libraries |
| 07:08.50 | amarsh04 | if I can see where the behaviour differs that might help |
| 07:09.32 | amarsh04 | I tried in a different user account on the x86-64 machine and had the same problem |
| 07:10.00 | amarsh04 | next I might create a completely new account to see what happens |
| 07:12.36 | golinux | Good luck! Sorry I know next to nothing about KDE . . . |
| 07:19.28 | amarsh04 | that's ok, thanks for commenting |
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| 08:44.14 | premoboss | hello. devuan 2.0 here. When i do "dmesg" and i am unprivileged user, i got reply: "read kernel buffer failed: Operation not permitted". Shall i be forced to root just to read dmesg? is not a problem, but is annoing. what is the tecnical reason to dont allow to not-root user to see dmesg? |
| 08:45.44 | golinux | There are more annoying permission changes than that coming down the tubes in beowulf . . . |
| 08:46.20 | premoboss | golinux, "fun" wews never stop to came, i see. |
| 08:47.00 | golinux | I've been trying to work through it for a few days. |
| 08:47.33 | golinux | Indeed . . . it never seems to stop. |
| 08:49.46 | premoboss | untill devian take me far from systemd, is ok to me. |
| 08:53.16 | KatolaZ | premoboss: no you are not forced to be root |
| 08:53.30 | KatolaZ | you should put |
| 08:53.33 | KatolaZ | echo 0 > /proc/sys/kernel/dmesg_restrict |
| 08:53.37 | KatolaZ | in your rc.local |
| 08:53.44 | KatolaZ | /etc/rc.local |
| 08:53.47 | premoboss | KatolaZ, thanks |
| 08:54.02 | KatolaZ | if you execute that command as root, you should be able to see dmesg as regular user |
| 08:54.20 | KatolaZ | access to dmesg has been disabled by default in the kernel |
| 08:54.25 | KatolaZ | (not by Devuan) |
| 08:54.32 | KatolaZ | and I think it's a good thing overall |
| 08:54.42 | premoboss | KatolaZ, why this... ah, by kernel. ok |
| 08:55.25 | premoboss | maybe they thin an attacker can find some clues into dmesg to do further attacks |
| 08:55.27 | premoboss | ok |
| 08:57.04 | KatolaZ | premoboss: i guess the reason is not J Random Hacker |
| 08:57.11 | KatolaZ | :) |
| 08:57.22 | man_in_shack | hacks KatolaZ |
| 08:57.39 | premoboss | "J Random Hacker"... what do you mean? |
| 08:58.22 | KatolaZ | bbl |
| 08:59.33 | man_in_shack | what DON'T you mean? |
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| 09:02.10 | premoboss | i dont undestand what KatolaZ what to say with the sentence: "i guess the reason in not J Random Hacker". |
| 09:02.22 | KatolaZ | has been hacked....feels dizzy.....faints....falls on the floor... |
| 09:03.33 | man_in_shack | GOOD |
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| 09:16.43 | rrq | premoboss: I think it's blocked by default as it otherwise breaks the perceived isolation between "containers" (LXC); that a program in one container can gain information about other containers, which has a long-shot implication of badness happening. |
| 09:26.35 | furrymcgee | container everywhere in kernel and on freenode |
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| 09:33.06 | rrq | back from washing my mouth with soap |
| 09:41.14 | man_in_shack | GOOD |
| 10:15.41 | devoid_ | god damn |
| 10:15.57 | devoid_ | what an edgy satanist fellow |
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| 13:31.35 | RebelCoderRU | Guys, is there an ISO with Testing (beowolf) branch ? I have installed the ascii and changed repos to beowolf, but a fukll-upgrade actually broke the system. |
| 13:31.55 | RebelCoderRU | Is there an ISO I can install with Testing branch ? |
| 13:39.39 | furrymcgee | No, I dont think there iso beowulf already available, what went wrong in fukk-upgrade? |
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| 16:00.41 | xrogaan | There are some dbus calls with a --systemd argument in the files located at /etc/X11/Xsession.d/ |
| 16:01.10 | xrogaan | one, for example, dbus-x11: /etc/X11/Xsession.d/95dbus_update-activation-env |
| 16:02.17 | gnu_srs2 | furrymcgee: https://pkgmaster.devuan.org/devuan/dists/unstable/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/mini.iso for i386 and |
| 16:02.17 | gnu_srs2 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 18:24.11 | _abc_ | Hi. |
| 18:25.00 | _abc_ | What's the upgrade paths from ascii 1.0.0 to 2.0.0 please? |
| 18:25.05 | _abc_ | And is it worth it |
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| 18:26.46 | KatolaZ | _abc_: ascii is Devuan 2.0.0 |
| 18:27.03 | _abc_ | I am confused then? /topic : Latest |
| 18:27.04 | _abc_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:27.19 | KatolaZ | _abc_: you asked: |
| 18:27.21 | _abc_ | I think I'm on ascii release 1.0.0 ? Or is that not possible |
| 18:27.28 | KatolaZ | 19:27 < _abc_> What's the upgrade paths from ascii 1.0.0 to 2.0.0 please? |
| 18:27.38 | KatolaZ | I am telling you that Devuan 2.0.0 is called ascii |
| 18:27.46 | KatolaZ | while Devuan 1.0.0 is called "jessie" |
| 18:27.56 | KatolaZ | so your question is ill-posed |
| 18:27.59 | _abc_ | But is ASCII 2.0.0 one and the same with devuan 2.0.0 ? |
| 18:28.16 | KatolaZ | 19:30 <+KatolaZ> I am telling you that Devuan 2.0.0 is called ascii |
| 18:28.28 | KatolaZ | ascii is the *codename* for Devuan 2.0.0 |
| 18:28.41 | _abc_ | Ok. |
| 18:29.12 | _abc_ | ls there a place to put a /etc/Release file on devuan? A standard one? |
| 18:29.42 | _abc_ | Or a high level upgrade/update log? A la "$(date): upgrade from ascii to xxx" ? |
| 18:31.06 | KatolaZ | _abc_: what do you mean by a "/etc/Release" file? |
| 18:31.39 | _abc_ | Just a file which documents what the presently running system is called and versions and such |
| 18:31.58 | KatolaZ | /etc/devuan_version |
| 18:32.18 | KatolaZ | /etc/issue |
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| 18:32.52 | KatolaZ | but the most important thing is what you actually have in /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 18:33.04 | KatolaZ | that determines which distribution you are actually running |
| 18:33.26 | _abc_ | version is ascii/ceres |
| 18:33.33 | _abc_ | I assume that is the "latest" then |
| 18:35.11 | KatolaZ | _abc_: what do yu have in /etc/apt/sources.list? |
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| 18:41.46 | _abc_ | deb http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged ascii main contrib non-free etc etc |
| 18:45.07 | KatolaZ | then you are on ascii |
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| 19:23.08 | mchasard | hi |
| 19:23.39 | mchasard | i installed crowz devuan distro under vbox it works fine |
| 19:24.07 | mchasard | but when i try to install really under another 32bits machine |
| 19:24.50 | mchasard | with liveusb the install stop cause it doesn't find any cd ....but its an usblive key |
| 19:25.03 | mchasard | its the same iso file that i used |
| 19:25.27 | mchasard | i really wanted to install it |
| 19:26.07 | mchasard | is it due to the usb live key ? |
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| 23:39.37 | bjb_ | My calendar says it is Devuan's birthday today ... is it so? |
| 23:40.00 | golinux | Yes |
| 23:40.36 | golinux | https://lists.dyne.org/lurker/message/20181127.225721.357d93f9.en.html |
| 23:41.14 | bjb_ | Happy birthday Devuan : -) |
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