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| 01:19.48 | *** topic/#devuan is This is the Devuan https://devuan.org/ discussion channel | **You might need to auth to nickserv to talk!** | Latest (2018-06-09): ASCII 2.0.0 https://devuan.org/os/debian-fork/ascii-stable-announce-060818 || Stable (2017-05-25): Jessie 1.0.0 LTS release | Devuan Forum: https://dev1galaxy.org/ | Chanlogs: http://maemo.cloud-7.de/irclogs/freenode/_devuan/ |
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| 10:44.12 | ErRandir | My devuan ASCII install put pkgmaster.devuan.org into the sources.list, but the web page of dev1fanboy has deb.devuan.org. Which one is best? |
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| 10:54.37 | gnarface | ErRandir: use deb.devuan.org (it is the mirror round-robin) |
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| 10:56.39 | gnarface | it might be faster |
| 11:02.23 | ErRandir | thanks! |
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| 11:10.59 | gnarface | no problem |
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| 11:26.04 | man_in_shack | problems gnarface in the no |
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| 12:01.11 | SegFault01 | hi |
| 12:01.35 | SegFault01 | I am a Slackware user. I want to use Devuan. |
| 12:02.08 | SegFault01 | Any suggestions for smooth transition? |
| 12:03.10 | Digit | my suggestions would be wrong. dont listen to me if i try suggest "bedrock". ;) |
| 12:03.41 | SegFault01 | Don't want to package management. I want automatic dependancy resolutions. |
| 12:03.44 | Digit | someone more slackware & devuan savvy will have better suggestions momentarily, probably. |
| 12:04.16 | Digit | SegFault01: if should be quite a smooth transition already then. |
| 12:04.44 | SegFault01 | And no more compiling packages |
| 12:04.47 | gnarface | SegFault01: did you try out the devuan live image? |
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| 12:05.07 | Digit | apt-get update && apt-get upgrade && echo easy joy |
| 12:05.19 | SegFault01 | I want binary packages |
| 12:05.23 | Digit | s/if/it/ |
| 12:05.33 | SegFault01 | compiling is time consuming |
| 12:06.05 | SegFault01 | But binary packages should be available. How big is Devuan repo? |
| 12:07.12 | SegFault01 | I haven't tried Devuan live image |
| 12:09.48 | Digit | as big as debians. basically pretty much the biggest, near enough. wide package availability. rare that you need step outwith the repo to compile something. |
| 12:11.53 | SegFault01 | You seem to suggest Debian also has a huge repo. Then I guess I won't have to compile tarballs anymore. |
| 12:12.10 | SegFault01 | Ok. What is the init system? |
| 12:12.12 | Digit | yup. |
| 12:12.21 | SegFault01 | Like you guys, I hate systemd. |
| 12:12.29 | SegFault01 | Is it sysvinit? |
| 12:12.33 | Digit | sysvinit, i think. i barely ever pay attention to it. not systemd. yay. |
| 12:13.37 | SegFault01 | Ok. That is cool. I use the KDE 3 Trinity desktop. They say it is available with Devuan. |
| 12:14.00 | SegFault01 | Is Trinity available in live image? |
| 12:14.20 | Digit | and then there's always the likes of runit. ;D http://smarden.org/runit/replaceinit.html (see, i warned you about my suggestions, hehe.) |
| 12:15.21 | Digit | i... think trinity is available. if you have a connection and install it. i'm not sure. that might be a 3rd party repo to add. good taste, my old fave, but have not used for a while. |
| 12:15.46 | SegFault01 | Ok, is the following packages availble (cannot live without them): gcc, clang, gdb, valgrind, perl, vim, latex |
| 12:17.18 | SegFault01 | and also ruby |
| 12:17.38 | Digit | i tried install those, n it complains it cant find latex package, but that's prly just because i need to specify a specific meta-package for it. |
| 12:17.50 | Digit | but yeah, all that basics will be available i'm sure. |
| 12:17.59 | SegFault01 | Gotta go. Work. Thank you for your help. |
| 12:18.26 | Digit | eep. i'm helping. devuan, look out. n_n |
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| 15:53.20 | targz | Very happy using an iso of Devuan ASCII http://gnutransfer.com/vps.php. It is good to have that option in a server :) |
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| 16:05.10 | xrogaan | Got a ton of updates today, one being grub. And it scared me telling me that grub wasn't directed to be installed anywhere. |
| 16:06.05 | xrogaan | how do I check if grub is properly installed and configured? |
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| 16:51.50 | gnu_srs | dpkg -l grub |
| 16:53.03 | xrogaan | I didn't mean the packages, but the state of grub on my drive. |
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| 17:14.17 | gnu_srs1 | xrogaan: Check the date+contents of /boot/grub/grub.cfg? |
| 17:14.48 | gnu_srs1 | That file is created when grub is installed/updated |
| 17:16.06 | fsmithred | xrogaan, was grub already installed and working? |
| 17:17.12 | fsmithred | the debconf dialog for grub when the package gets installed will warn you if you don't select a location for the bootloader |
| 17:17.44 | fsmithred | if you get that on an upgrade, I wouldn't expect it to matter, because you already have a bootloader |
| 17:18.08 | fsmithred | either in mbr or in efi partition |
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| 17:41.51 | xrogaan | fsmithred: yeah, it's for my main desktop. The message at upgrade is a bit scary. |
| 17:43.46 | gnu_srs | apt-get install --reinstall grub? |
| 17:44.52 | fsmithred | or even grub-install... |
| 17:45.00 | fsmithred | bios or uefi? |
| 17:46.12 | telmich | good evening |
| 17:46.36 | telmich | In which state is ceres at the moment? I.e. if I feel adventerous, should I already give my notebook a try to dist-upgrade? |
| 17:47.44 | fsmithred | telmich, are you running ascii or beowulf on the laptop? |
| 17:48.16 | telmich | fsmithred: ascii atm |
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| 17:48.54 | xrogaan | Well, it updated grub fine, then later on told me "you didn't designate a place to install grub". I quit the screen and it updated grub yet again. |
| 17:49.22 | fsmithred | here are some accounts of upgrading to ceres: https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=2301 |
| 17:51.18 | fsmithred | xrogaan, did it show you a list of drives/partitions and ask where to put grub? |
| 17:51.47 | xrogaan | yeah |
| 17:52.26 | fsmithred | then I know you're doing bios boot and not uefi |
| 17:52.45 | fsmithred | I usually select my boot drive when I get that window on an update |
| 17:52.56 | fsmithred | just in case they changed the boot code |
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| 20:21.21 | kekePower | hmm |
| 20:21.41 | kekePower | powertop tells me I'm down to about 10w battery discharge now |
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| 21:50.42 | dormito | I notice that the devuan webpage says ASCII supports installing with openrc, however I didn't notice it as an option when I did an ASCII install a couple days ago. When/how do you select the init/rc for the install? |
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| 22:01.10 | golinux | dormito: I think you can only chose openrc during an expert install. But you can also switch after installation. Check the forum and DNG archives for instructions. |
| 22:02.10 | Jjp137 | dormito, choose the expert install, and during the "load installer components from CD" step, select the "choose-init" component, then later on you'll be asked to select the init |
| 22:02.44 | dormito | ok thanks :0 |
| 22:02.52 | dormito | * :) |
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