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| 03:37.51 | furrywolf | odd, I checked packages. and the metapackage pointed to 4.9 |
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| 08:23.57 | KatolaZ | furrywolf: https://pkginfo.devuan.org/cgi-bin/d1pkgweb-query?search=linux-image&release=ascii |
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| 08:26.17 | xrogaan | I need a software to monitor specific application network usage. |
| 08:26.33 | xrogaan | I guess I need to use wireshark? But I'd love to see something less convoluted. |
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| 08:50.08 | gnarface | xrogaan: try jnettop or tcpdump maybe? |
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| 08:53.27 | xrogaan | how do you monitor an application with jnettop? |
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| 08:54.03 | gnarface | i'm not sure |
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| 08:57.31 | xrogaan | I want to know what a specific application does with the network. |
| 08:58.44 | gnarface | netstat and fuser maybe? |
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| 09:01.38 | xrogaan | no, you can know that with lsof |
| 09:01.54 | xrogaan | I want to know *what* it does, not if a socket is open. |
| 09:03.25 | gnarface | i guess to actually read packet contents i only know of wireshark and tcpdump |
| 09:03.29 | gnarface | and they're both pretty convoluted |
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| 09:17.59 | xrogaan | well I guess netstat + grep software name + tcpdump |
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| 09:18.19 | xrogaan | I was hoping a software could be used as a sniffing layer though. |
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| 09:56.14 | gnarface | hmmm |
| 09:56.28 | gnarface | what about snort? |
| 09:56.47 | gnarface | it's for monitoring, not really inspection, but maybe it can do inspection for logging purposes |
| 09:56.58 | gnarface | just guessing |
| 09:57.22 | gnarface | it might be more focused on ports and ip addresses than processes though |
| 09:59.38 | Centurion_Dan | Upgrade to firefox-esr breaks audio... they dropped alsa support in firefox-esr in v62... |
| 09:59.50 | Centurion_Dan | I'm rather pissed about that... |
| 10:02.22 | telst4r | yeah |
| 10:03.07 | gnarface | i think they dropped it in v60 actually |
| 10:03.09 | telst4r | pulseaudio will become obsolete anyway as soon as systemd implements it :P |
| 10:04.04 | Centurion_Dan | might be the last straw... I'm starting to get other browsers... |
| 10:04.13 | Centurion_Dan | s/get/test/ |
| 10:05.30 | telst4r | if only uzbl could run ff plugins.. :) |
| 10:06.24 | furrymcgee | hell ya love uzbl |
| 10:11.13 | xrogaan | gnarface: i'll check |
| 10:11.43 | xrogaan | my concern is with this: http://dpaste.com/1J48R8T |
| 10:12.09 | xrogaan | keepassxc-proxy connects to google and amazon |
| 10:12.57 | xrogaan | that's ridiculous |
| 10:13.34 | gnarface | what is that even? |
| 10:14.11 | gnarface | oh, password management... |
| 10:14.12 | gnarface | hmmm |
| 10:14.30 | telst4r | That sounds suspicious. |
| 10:14.47 | gnarface | well dpaste connected to amazon just now too |
| 10:14.50 | gnarface | just fyi |
| 10:23.24 | Hurgotron | xrogaan: probably related... https://github.com/keepassxreboot/keepassxc-browser/issues/100 |
| 10:23.44 | Hurgotron | shit keeps getting too complicated. |
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| 10:24.58 | xrogaan | i'm using firefox though |
| 10:25.43 | Hurgotron | The bug is about Firefox? |
| 10:26.17 | Hurgotron | see the last four or so comments. |
| 10:33.04 | xrogaan | oh, right. Thanks. Trying to figure out snort right now :p |
| 10:34.16 | xrogaan | fixed in 61. Still running esr 60. :/ |
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| 10:38.18 | Beerbelott | Hello |
| 10:38.39 | Beerbelott | I spot an inconsistency in Devuan packages repositories merged from Debian's |
| 10:39.10 | Beerbelott | http://packages.devuan.org/merged/dists/ascii-security/main/binary-amd64/Packages shows firefox-esr-l10n-en-gb w/ version 52.9.0esr-1~deb9u1 |
| 10:39.39 | Beerbelott | While http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged/dists/ascii-security/main/binary-amd64/Packages.xz shows proper 60.2.0esr-1~deb9u2 |
| 10:39.44 | Beerbelott | https://packages.debian.org/stretch/firefox-esr-l10n-en-gb |
| 10:40.32 | Beerbelott | Shall `pkgmaster` be preferred over `packages`? |
| 10:42.05 | KatolaZ | Beerbelott: yes |
| 10:42.07 | KatolaZ | since ascii |
| 10:42.11 | KatolaZ | please read the release notes |
| 10:42.18 | KatolaZ | you should use deb.devuan.org |
| 10:42.27 | KatolaZ | which is in fact a bunch of mirrors |
| 11:16.03 | Beerbelott | KatolaZ: Noted, thx! Why isn't `packages` one of the mirrors? Will that be decommissioned? |
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| 11:27.12 | KatolaZ | yes Beerbelott, it will be decommissioned |
| 11:32.38 | xrogaan | snort is fascinating. |
| 11:33.08 | xrogaan | huge pool of ridiculousness. The ruleset is deprecated by default, and you need to register to get a working software. |
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| 11:58.01 | Beerbelott | KatolaZ: K thx |
| 11:58.19 | KatolaZ | np |
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| 12:14.46 | FlibberTGibbet | KatolaZ: is it still good to use (for example) gb.deb.devuan.org? |
| 12:14.59 | FlibberTGibbet | Or should I omit the country prefix? |
| 12:15.11 | KatolaZ | you can use the country prefix |
| 12:15.19 | FlibberTGibbet | thanks KatolaZ |
| 12:15.25 | KatolaZ | but you will still hit the same pool of mirrors |
| 12:15.29 | KatolaZ | we are working on that actually |
| 12:15.39 | KatolaZ | to have different pools for different continents at least |
| 12:16.11 | FlibberTGibbet | that sounds good |
| 12:16.27 | FlibberTGibbet | more resilient too, i guess |
| 12:20.56 | KatolaZ | yep |
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