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| 08:28.15 | Lieke | Is the eudev on Ceres now usable or should I still install the version from Ascii? |
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| 08:51.20 | guglicap | I'm having an issue with apt pinning, I pinned ascii with a higher priority than beowulf, but it's trying to upgrade some packages (not all of them) to testing anyway |
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| 15:51.28 | CmdrWgls | Howdy all. Need a little help. |
| 15:52.15 | CmdrWgls | Used to Debian. Trying to find out which repo contains "snapd". Tried a package search, couldn't figure out which repo to add. Almost certainly my fault. Help? |
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| 16:21.43 | golinux | Cmd |
| 16:22.05 | golinux | Oops. Misfire |
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| 17:06.25 | unixman_home | IANAD, but. From my searching and looking at the github source, it appears that snapd requires parts of sy*md to work. So, it is not likely to be in a sy*md-free Linux. |
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| 17:40.53 | golinux | unixman_home: He didn't stay around long enough to get an answer. Yes, snapd is on the banned list |
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| 17:51.57 | Xenguy | Huh, Ubuntu |
| 17:52.32 | Xenguy | Tried it for a year (drank the koolaid), then went back to Debian |
| 17:52.49 | Xenguy | No interest in their snapd |
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| 19:10.57 | yellyFish | hey waddup. i have been messing with font config and i don't know what to use. what options do you guys use? |
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| 20:24.03 | MinceR | slight hinting, no subpixel hinting |
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| 20:55.59 | Pr0metheus | is anyone using the linux-libre kernel? |
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| 21:43.56 | yellyFish | does anyone know how to disable antialiasing without fonts looking like shit in web explorers? maybe changing fonts or something? |
| 21:47.26 | gnarface | you know what antialiasing is for, right? |
| 21:48.02 | gnarface | you can change the way the hints work between a couple legacy options and the new way, or you can turn it off |
| 21:48.21 | gnarface | a fundamental of the way truetype fonts work though is the anti-aliasing and hinting |
| 21:48.33 | gnarface | without, it's the definition of jaggy edges and bitmaps |
| 21:49.16 | gnarface | changing fonts really may help though, depending on the font... some of them were designed for the old hinting type, or no hinting optimization whatsoever |
| 21:49.32 | gnarface | some of the newer ones though are designed using more advanced methods, and with LCD screens in mind |
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| 21:57.12 | yellyFish | i have hinting enabled but don't like antialiasing, makes font blurry but also don't like how default fonts used in firefox look |
| 22:04.29 | gnarface | well it's easy to fix the default fonts |
| 22:04.36 | gnarface | just install some better fonts |
| 22:06.45 | yellyFish | any recommendations? |
| 22:06.54 | gnarface | are you used to the windows ones, is that the problem? |
| 22:07.09 | gnarface | they're in some package in contrib or non-free... i forget exactly what it's called |
| 22:07.25 | gnarface | something about core web fonts or some crap |
| 22:07.38 | gnarface | but there's so many options |
| 22:07.58 | gnarface | i like the bitstream ones but i don't think they're the most popular |
| 22:08.04 | gnarface | try these commands |
| 22:08.18 | gnarface | `apt-cache search ttf-` |
| 22:08.21 | gnarface | `apt-cache search fonts-` |
| 22:08.33 | gnarface | that should show you most of them but there may be others... |
| 22:12.00 | gnarface | it will probably show you a couple things that are not fonts too, sorry about that... don't just blindly install every package that gets listed |
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| 22:18.50 | gnarface | oh and FYI you can change the hinting with `dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig-config` |
| 22:18.56 | gnarface | i think that should still work anyway |
| 22:19.08 | yellyFish | yeah i did |
| 22:20.06 | gnarface | https://wiki.debian.org/Fonts - this page says to do it like `dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig fontconfig-config` to regenerate caches |
| 22:21.18 | gnarface | (i know that's a debian wiki link but none of that should be different in devuan) |
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| 23:17.28 | golinux | Why is synaptic showing me upgrades for linux-image-4.9 etc. from bpo even though I do not have bpo enabled in my source.list? |
| 23:18.34 | golinux | I've never seen that before. |
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| 23:25.16 | gnarface | forgot to run apt-get update after taking it out of your sources.list? |
| 23:25.23 | gnarface | or it's in one of the sources.list.d/ files |
| 23:25.25 | gnarface | ? |
| 23:25.46 | gnarface | or it's already installed... |
| 23:25.47 | gnarface | ? |
| 23:25.52 | gnarface | no i guess that wouldn't be it |
| 23:25.57 | gnarface | oh, it could be in your cache maybe |
| 23:26.12 | gnarface | if you had started installing it then canceled before it completed maybe? |