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| 19:33.04 | rah | does anyone know of an apt-cacher-ng mirrors file for Devuan mirrors? |
| 19:33.36 | rah | the source here doesn't seem to add one: https://packages.devuan.org/devuan/pool/main/a/apt-cacher-ng/ |
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| 19:35.28 | gnarface | i figured it would just use the system sources.list. i didn't think they'd have hardwired in the debian mirror urls.... |
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| 19:40.54 | golinux | rah: Use deb.devuan.org not packages,devuan.org/ and your problem should be solved. If you are still on jessie, make sure to update the key first |
| 19:41.12 | golinux | Sorry for the typos |
| 19:42.22 | rah | golinux: it looks like my problem is not the problem you think I have |
| 19:42.59 | rah | golinux: what problem do you think I have? |
| 19:43.22 | golinux | You can't find long descriptions for packages |
| 19:43.39 | rah | O_o |
| 19:43.40 | rah | eh? |
| 19:43.54 | rah | golinux: why do you think that's the problem? |
| 19:44.15 | golinux | Seems I misremembered something. |
| 19:44.52 | golinux | In any case packages.devuan.org is deprecated so please change it in you sources list. |
| 19:45.28 | rah | golinux: what makes you think I have packages.devuan.org in my sources list? |
| 19:46.13 | gnarface | rah: i think we both inferred it from the link you pasted. maybe we both also incorrectly inferred that you were asking because apt-cacher-ng isn't working for you. |
| 19:46.27 | golinux | <rah> the source here doesn't seem to add one: https://packages.devuan.org/devuan/pool/main/a/apt-cacher-ng/ |
| 19:46.34 | rah | I see |
| 19:46.42 | rah | I don't have Devuan installed |
| 19:46.43 | golinux | You are looking in the wrong place |
| 19:46.54 | rah | I'm about to install it |
| 19:47.02 | golinux | Try pkginfo.devuan.org |
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| 19:47.15 | rah | I have a working, configured apt-cacher-ng installation on a server |
| 19:47.18 | golinux | to see if it's in there |
| 19:47.48 | rah | I want to configure that apt-cacher-ng installation so that it can be used as a cache for Devuan repositories |
| 19:48.32 | golinux | http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/devuan_mirror_walkthrough.txt |
| 19:49.06 | rah | golinux: pkginfo.devuan.org provides no links to source packages |
| 19:50.01 | rah | golinux: devuan_mirror_walkthrough.txt contains no information relevant to configuring apt-cacher-ng |
| 19:52.31 | gnarface | rah: i haven't actually tried apt-cacher-ng on devuan yet. but my understanding of how it works didn't include changing the source code to point to a different repository |
| 19:53.42 | golinux | I know that has been discussed here, on the forum or dng. Since our repos are built with amprolla, debian packages are pulled directly from the Debuian repos. |
| 19:54.41 | gnarface | i should really set up an instance here to make sure it's working but i've been lazy |
| 19:55.21 | golinux | So I don't know that apt-cacher-ng can do that. It requires amprolla3 to get all the redirects to the debian repos. |
| 19:56.28 | gnarface | yea i had a concern myself it might not work in devuan due to the repo changes, but it's a pretty simple creature. i wouldn't be surprised if it did work fine out of the box. |
| 19:56.32 | golinux | Anyway, I have never done this and never will so maybe I'm just adding noise. I'll bow out. |
| 19:56.57 | rah | does anyone know of an apt-cacher-ng mirrors file for Devuan mirrors? |
| 19:57.15 | gnarface | rah: do you actually have a mirrors file on hand for debian? |
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| 19:58.02 | gnarface | rah: if you can actually pastebin one i can probably edit it to what it should be. again though, i really thought this worked by using the system's apt configuration |
| 19:58.50 | rah | gnarface: I'm quite capable of creating one myself |
| 19:59.10 | rah | gnarface: I'm not asking for help creating one, I'm asking whether one already exists |
| 19:59.32 | gnarface | rah: are you capable of showing me the debian equivalent? |
| 20:00.07 | rah | gnarface: you'll find a number of apt-cacher-ng mirror files here: https://github.com/Efreak/apt-cacher-ng/tree/master/conf |
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| 20:01.10 | gnarface | ah oik |
| 20:01.35 | gnarface | rah: you should only need one entry for "deb.devuan.org" as that is the mirror fanout hostname |
| 20:02.08 | gnarface | rah: there are ALSO mirrors listed here, but i don't know if this list is exhaustive: https://devuan.org/get-devuan |
| 20:02.47 | gnarface | i can't tell you if anyone has checked a file for this in for apt-cacher-ng specifically. i have no idea. i'm not the one doing the work. |
| 20:03.14 | rah | 20:58 < rah> gnarface: I'm quite capable of creating one myself |
| 20:03.14 | rah | 20:59 < rah> gnarface: I'm not asking for help creating one, I'm asking whether one already exists |
| 20:03.40 | gnarface | yea, and i'm telling you i don't know if one exists already. i can guess by the very small amount of data it would include that it may not. |
| 20:03.41 | golinux | The mirrors nee the amprolla3 script to work properly |
| 20:04.05 | rah | gnarface: why are you telling me you can't help me? |
| 20:04.40 | gnarface | rah: because it seemed like a more polite way to admit that i didn't understand your initial problem than to just tell you to go fuck yourself |
| 20:05.34 | gnarface | i don't speak as an official maintainer of this project. i was just trying to help. you've been rude and evasive the whole time. |
| 20:07.11 | rah | gnarface: when I don't know how to help someone, rather than telling them to go fuck themselves, I just say nothing |
| 20:08.20 | golinux | https://lists.dyne.org/lurker/message/20170802.090410.d78d51fe.en.html |
| 20:08.52 | gnarface | rah: but here's the important key you seem to be glossing over; i thought i COULD at first, and it is largely your fault i was wrong about that. you bear some responsibility there. |
| 20:09.05 | gnarface | rah: part of getting help successfully is learning to accept it. |
| 20:09.39 | rah | dafuq? |
| 20:09.56 | rah | gnarface: nobody here owes you anything |
| 20:10.09 | gnarface | rah: wrong. YOU owe me an apology. |
| 20:10.17 | rah | gnarface: I disagree |
| 20:10.28 | gnarface | good luck with that |
| 20:10.33 | DonkeyHotei | rah: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html |
| 20:11.50 | rah | DonkeyHotei: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karpman_drama_triangle |
| 20:14.46 | DonkeyHotei | rah: which one are you? |
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| 20:23.07 | rah | DonkeyHotei: I avoid taking on roles in drama |
| 20:23.50 | rah | "the triangle maps a type of destructive interaction that can occur between people in conflict" |
| 20:23.56 | gnarface | that actually made me laugh |
| 20:24.07 | gnarface | you're fucking funny Bob Ham |
| 20:24.23 | gnarface | now stop wasting everyone's time |
| 20:24.27 | DonkeyHotei | rah: i see no conflict |
| 20:24.35 | rah | 21:10 < gnarface> rah: wrong. YOU owe me an apology. |
| 20:24.35 | rah | 21:10 < rah> gnarface: I disagree |
| 20:24.45 | rah | DonkeyHotei: ^ conflict |
| 20:25.26 | DonkeyHotei | [Wed 2018-09-05 01:04:01 PM PDT] <rah> gnarface: why are you telling me you can't help me? <----- the start of the drama, in victim mode |
| 20:25.55 | DonkeyHotei | per your own link |
| 20:26.08 | rah | DonkeyHotei: I would disagree; actually, that's more a tendency towards rescuing |
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| 20:27.22 | rah | (on my part) |
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| 20:32.14 | DonkeyHotei | you can disagree all you want, but that's what i took away from that article, hence my initial response to it |
| 20:32.19 | rah | DonkeyHotei: I see that my sentence could be misread; what I meant was: "why is the concept you are conveying to me the concept of not having the ability to help?" rather than "why are you harming me by denying me the help I need?" |
| 20:33.09 | DonkeyHotei | if you see that, then you must see the consequences of that |
| 20:33.53 | golinux | This board has a PM function. Maybe take it there . . . |
| 20:33.54 | rah | DonkeyHotei: sorry, too many "that"s in your sentence; I don't understand what you mean |
| 20:34.12 | golinux | Please . . . |
| 20:36.31 | rah | DonkeyHotei: the rescuing on my part was highlighting to golinux that part of his behaviour is to tell other people that he can't help them; he's not obligated to help anyone here so volunteering that admission highlights Rescuer behaviour on his part |
| 20:37.01 | fsmithred | yes |
| 20:37.23 | gnarface | woah |
| 20:37.24 | DonkeyHotei | i'm done |
| 20:37.47 | rah | err.. s/golinux/gnarface/ |
| 20:37.55 | gnarface | there you go |
| 20:38.12 | golinux | (rah is now 0 for 3) |
| 20:38.57 | fsmithred | my "yes" was in the wrong window |
| 20:39.13 | rah | golinux: oh noes! I lost! |
| 20:39.25 | rah | what will I do? |
| 20:39.31 | golinux | rah: You are irrelevant |
| 20:39.42 | rah | golinux: you wound me |
| 20:39.59 | golinux | No one cares about you widdle feewings |
| 20:40.05 | DonkeyHotei | i stand by everything i said |
| 20:40.39 | rah | DonkeyHotei: I didn't understand some of what you said |
| 20:40.46 | golinux | Please take this to #debianfork or a pm. (Not with me. I'm done) |
| 20:40.52 | DonkeyHotei | that's not my fault |
| 20:41.26 | rah | I tend to believe that the onus is on the writer to convey information clearly enough for the reader to understand |
| 20:41.55 | DonkeyHotei | and you failed to do that, causing conflict, which must now end |
| 20:42.04 | golinux | DocScrutinizer05: Some folks here need a time out. Can you please do the honors. |
| 20:42.45 | golinux | buZz: Maybe you can jump in with some quieting? |
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| 20:44.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | behave, everybody! |
| 20:44.23 | rah | behave in what way? |
| 20:44.56 | golinux | Time to go stand in the corner rah |
| 20:45.01 | DocScrutinizer05 | you either know already or you'll learn it today |
| 20:45.10 | rah | that sounds like a threat |
| 20:45.18 | DocScrutinizer05 | golinux: please stop it |
| 20:45.22 | DocScrutinizer05 | it's over |
| 20:45.35 | rah | "The Persecutor: (a.k.a. Villain) The Persecutor insists, "It's all your fault." The Persecutor is controlling, blaming, critical, oppressive, angry, authoritative, rigid, and superior." |
| 20:45.39 | rah | runs |
| 20:45.55 | DonkeyHotei | facepalms |
| 20:46.18 | rah | I'm going :-) |
| 20:46.19 | rah | I |
| 20:46.31 | rah | I'll leave you in peace :-) |
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| 20:49.39 | DonkeyHotei | apologies for feeding the troll. mea culpa. |
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| 21:05.30 | DocScrutinizer05 | np. Thanks for stopping the feed |
| 21:07.01 | DocScrutinizer05 | Mr Ham has a special skill in this regard, I fell for the same troll feeding several times - like 10 years ago already |
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