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| 01:52.52 | Xenguy | For once the germans were wrong ; -) |
| 01:53.14 | Xenguy | ISO is the way to go (even from just a file management point of view) |
| 01:53.59 | Xenguy | YYYY-MM-DD |
| 01:54.44 | gnarface | i tend to agree but just because that format doesn't require additional conversion to be a mysql DATESTAMP |
| 01:54.55 | gnarface | or DATE or whatever the type is called |
| 01:55.01 | Xenguy | huh |
| 01:55.22 | Xenguy | I did not know that |
| 01:55.34 | gnarface | saves overhead in the middle-tier when you don't have to call date objects to do string conversions |
| 01:55.55 | Xenguy | Makes sense for system admin |
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| 06:21.51 | MinceR | it's also easier to sort |
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| 08:54.36 | Joerg-Neo900 | xes: ISO is the recommended standard for Germany, alas nobody cares |
| 08:54.51 | Joerg-Neo900 | xenguy ^^^^ |
| 08:55.25 | Joerg-Neo900 | I wish there was a sane ISO de_DE locale |
| 08:58.48 | Joerg-Neo900 | but the only ISO locales I can find are - like - wbp_AU, wa_BE, ken_CM etc, all with M07 instead "Juli" or "July" |
| 09:05.36 | Joerg-Neo900 | gnarface: MinceR: Xenguy: it's totally irrelevant how easy it's to code or maintain. This is about MMI aka UI and the only thing that counts is convenience for user which for me is maximum with ISO since my wetware search/sort algorithm doesn't like the extra complexity from YY-DD-MM or "martes, 31 de julio de 2018" |
| 09:12.41 | Joerg-Neo900 | then once you takle that stuff, you run into idiocy like Konversation:https://i.imgur.com/JM4aJBf.png which allows adding random cruft like "bla hh Hours doodle mmMinutes" but not change the date format at all. WHY THe HECK didn't they simply follow the canonical date(1) format parameter syntax? |
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| 13:20.18 | scaniatrucker | Hello. Maybe who knows what happened to Dev1Galaxy Forum? For some time it's unavailable ... |
| 13:22.42 | gnarface | seems to be working for me |
| 13:22.57 | rrq | scaniatrucker: your IP address? |
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| 13:31.08 | scaniatrucker | rrq: IP adress is 192.168.1.116 |
| 13:32.43 | rrq | mmm need your external IP address .. the address that dev1galaxy.org sees |
| 13:32.59 | scaniatrucker | rrq: sorry, my mistake. Should be 192.168.1.116/24 |
| 13:34.59 | scaniatrucker | rrq: external IP adress is 78.56.98.5 |
| 13:42.29 | scaniatrucker | I do not know how, but I can go to the forum again. Thank you for your attention, rrq! |
| 13:42.35 | rrq | somehow your browser wanted to access the "/req_message" path, which is enough to trigger a "dubious" classification. I've cleared it now, but you might have "a talk" with your browser. |
| 13:43.58 | rrq | .. it should say "want to" somewhere in that. |
| 13:44.59 | scaniatrucker | rrq:Thank you. I will try. |
| 13:45.32 | scaniatrucker | rrq:by the way. My browser is Firefox-esr :) |
| 13:46.19 | rrq | ta |
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| 17:16.40 | saptech | hello all |
| 17:17.36 | saptech | I have devuan installed on my system along with a couple of other distros in their own partitions. I haven't used devuan in quite some time and now when I boot.it ends up at a prompt |
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| 17:20.24 | saptech | at this time, I'm not able to get the exact error messages. but it seems to not find the boot device /dev/sda8 |
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| 17:21.10 | saptech | someone mention to chroot into it and see if updating devuan will fix the issue. What commands do I run to update it? |
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| 17:31.43 | saptech | when I run 'apt-get update' I get this message about, Could not resolve 'auto.mirror.devuan.org' |
| 17:31.59 | saptech | https://bpaste.net/show/6420d3a3d01a |
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| 17:55.21 | saptech | hmmm, it seems my internet is not working, it's a wired connection |
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| 17:56.16 | saptech | enp0s25: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast state UP mode DEFAULT group default qlen 1000 link/ether 00:23:ae:9c:3a:e5 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff |
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| 18:12.03 | Hestben | Hi guys. Maybe a noob question. How do I extract the image in the .xz archives, such as devuan_ascii_2.0.0_armel_raspi1.img.xz |
| 18:14.16 | Tashtari | Hestben: `xz --decompress filename.xz` if you're on a linux system that has xz installed. If you're on Windows, 7-zip will do it. |
| 18:14.56 | Hestben | Oh, now reading the README, there were instructions |
| 18:15.25 | Hestben | Tashtari: Thanks |
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| 18:30.12 | saptech | Tashtari, any idea why my wired net connection not working while i'm in devuan with chroot? |
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| 18:32.15 | Tashtari | saptech: Not off the top of my head. At what point does it stop working? |
| 18:32.44 | Hestben | saptech: Are you sure network works in the host system before chrooting? |
| 18:33.56 | saptech | yes, i'm using it now with host distro |
| 18:34.28 | saptech | Tashtari, as soon as I chroot, but ip show it's UP |
| 18:35.26 | saptech | # ip link show dev enp0s25 |
| 18:35.26 | saptech | 2: enp0s25: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast state UP mode DEFAULT group default qlen 1000 link/ether 00:23:ae:9c:3a:e5 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff |
| 18:35.34 | Tashtari | It continues working in other terminals? |
| 18:35.41 | Tashtari | (Ones not chrooted) |
| 18:35.46 | saptech | yes |
| 18:35.47 | Hestben | saptech: ipv6? |
| 18:35.51 | saptech | mo |
| 18:36.02 | saptech | no* |
| 18:36.03 | Tashtari | saptech: ..Hmm. Can you ping an IP address, like 4.2.2.1? |
| 18:36.29 | saptech | I pinged google.com no go, let me try the numbers |
| 18:36.38 | Hestben | saptech: then, you don't seem to have an IP address assigned to enp0s25 |
| 18:37.13 | saptech | 4.2.2.1 work |
| 18:37.21 | Tashtari | Aha. I'm betting it's because your resolv.conf is not set up properly in the chroot. |
| 18:37.35 | Tashtari | Your adapter works fine but it has no idea what DNS server to talk to to resolve names. |
| 18:38.33 | saptech | yes, your're right |
| 18:39.12 | saptech | under chroot it's showing my old Belkin router, but under the host it's showing my provider |
| 18:39.28 | saptech | i'm not using the router anymore |
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| 18:42.02 | saptech | do I set /etc/resolv.conf in chroot to the same as the host? |
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| 18:51.14 | saptech | ok I got it sorted out, net is working |
| 18:59.03 | saptech | now to reboot. thanks for the help Tashtari, Hestben |
| 18:59.11 | Tashtari | np |
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| 19:23.16 | saptech | well, the update didn't work |
| 19:24.02 | saptech | during booting, I get a bunch of these, Begin: Running /scripts/local-block ... done |
| 19:24.27 | saptech | then it say 'gave up waiting for root device' |
| 19:25.49 | saptech | check root. I check root and /etc/cmdline, I think that was it but it did show root device listed as /dev/sda8 |
| 19:26.57 | saptech | which in the end it say /dev/sda8 does not exist, dropping to shell |
| 19:27.21 | saptech | any ideas how to fix this? |
| 19:28.20 | saptech | it is /proc/cmdline |
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| 20:15.11 | Hestben | saptech: looks like the device enumeration might have changed since you installed grub |
| 20:15.34 | Hestben | which may be a little work to find out what it should actually be. |
| 20:15.49 | Hestben | go searching for grub restoring. |
| 20:15.59 | Hestben | update-grub and such stuff. |
| 20:16.10 | Hestben | good luck, I'm leaving now ... |
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| 20:38.48 | golinux | saptech: auto.mirror is deprecated https://devuan.org/os/etc/apt/sources.list |
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| 20:49.00 | saptech | golinux, my sources.list is still using jessie. would I change ascii to jesse from the link? |
| 20:50.25 | fsmithred | saptech, yes, change 'ascii' to 'jessie' to keep jessie. |
| 20:53.12 | fsmithred | if you haven't done an update/upgrade since last fall, you might need to do that, or just do 'apt-get install devuan-keyring' before changing sources.list, just to make sure you have the newest keyring. |
| 20:53.23 | fsmithred | I think the latest is from last october or november. |
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| 20:54.14 | saptech | well the whole issue is I can't boot normally. I tried chrooting but nothing changed |
| 20:54.29 | fsmithred | can you get to a grub menu? |
| 20:55.15 | saptech | I'm not using devuan's menu, i'm using mageia grub, it's my main OS |
| 20:55.29 | fsmithred | any grub will work |
| 20:55.37 | saptech | ok |
| 20:55.46 | fsmithred | you could use grub command-line to manually boot devuan |
| 20:55.56 | fsmithred | or you could add devuan to mageia's boot menu |
| 20:56.09 | fsmithred | assmuming you can still get to mageia |
| 20:56.43 | saptech | what are the commands? devuan is in mageia's menu. mageia, voidlinux work only devuan have this issue |
| 20:57.23 | fsmithred | look at the devuan entry in mageia's grub.cfg |
| 20:57.42 | fsmithred | maybe it's wrong (as mentioned, drive order or uuid changed) |
| 20:58.17 | fsmithred | or play on grub command-line |
| 20:58.18 | saptech | ok |
| 20:58.22 | fsmithred | at boot menu, press c |
| 20:58.30 | fsmithred | then type... |
| 20:58.51 | fsmithred | wait - how many hard disks in the box? |
| 20:59.17 | saptech | one hdd, separate partitions |
| 20:59.28 | fsmithred | good, and which partition has devuan? |
| 20:59.38 | saptech | sda8 |
| 20:59.42 | fsmithred | cool |
| 20:59.59 | fsmithred | dos partition table, or gpt? |
| 21:00.32 | fsmithred | and are you using uefi or legacy bios? |
| 21:01.03 | fsmithred | actually, that last one doesn't matter |
| 21:01.41 | fsmithred | ok... |
| 21:01.49 | fsmithred | set root=(hd0, |
| 21:01.49 | saptech | dos, legacy bios |
| 21:02.05 | fsmithred | set root=(hd0,msdos8) |
| 21:02.17 | fsmithred | linux /vmlinuz ro root=/dev/sda8 |
| 21:02.24 | fsmithred | initrd /initrd |
| 21:02.26 | fsmithred | boot |
| 21:02.41 | fsmithred | oops |
| 21:02.47 | fsmithred | initrd /initrd.img |
| 21:02.57 | fsmithred | is the correct line |
| 21:03.08 | fsmithred | you can use tab-completion |
| 21:05.12 | saptech | do I do all this at the boot menu? |
| 21:06.56 | saptech | and it is grub2 |
| 21:07.55 | fsmithred | yeah |
| 21:08.07 | fsmithred | when you type 'c' it will drop you to a grub prompt. |
| 21:09.55 | saptech | thanks a lot...going to try it |
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| 21:23.45 | saptech | fsmithred, it worked. thank you a thousand times |
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| 21:25.35 | fsmithred | you're welcome. I learned about grub command line early in my linux use, and I've used it *many* times. |
| 21:26.14 | fsmithred | and again, you can use tab-completion to help you find the right drive or partition. Hit tab twice and it spits out all the possibilities. |
| 21:28.45 | saptech | ok |
| 21:34.24 | saptech | so now ascii is the stable branch? I should do a dist-upgrade |
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| 21:41.56 | fsmithred | yes, ascii is stable. Whether you want to upgrade or not is your choice. I'm still on jessie on two of my three computers. |
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