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| 01:28.12 | crimson_king | Hi folks. On a fresh ASCII install, I tried to git clone a github repository via ssh but it failed with "permission denied(public key)". Since this worked on a fresh Debian Stretch install, I'm assuming it is related to Devuan somehow. More info: .ssh folder is drwx------, while private keys are -rw------- and public keys are -rw-r--r-- |
| 01:29.27 | Acacia | crimson_king: it most likely means your public key isn't in the list of allowed keys in the ssh server |
| 01:30.35 | crimson_king | Acacia, strange, I used it just yesterday. I keep distrohopping and restoring these keys all the time. |
| 01:32.30 | gnarface | i note you checked the permissions |
| 01:32.39 | gnarface | but what about user and group ownership of those files? |
| 01:32.54 | gnarface | you said you copied them from another distro, did you remember to change the uid and gid of the files? |
| 01:37.17 | crimson_king | gnarface, the .ssh folder and its files belong to my user and my group. |
| 01:40.24 | crimson_king | funny, my gitlab key worked |
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| 01:43.20 | gnarface | hmmm |
| 01:43.23 | gnarface | maybe it is on their end then |
| 01:43.46 | gnarface | though i suppose if the key is old enough, there could have been a format change or something and its not working anymore |
| 01:44.09 | crimson_king | yeah, I might just generate a new one |
| 01:44.16 | gnarface | i do vaguely recall that being a problem semi-recently (within the last 5 years) with a really old key... (probably 20 years old) |
| 01:44.45 | gnarface | if i'm remembering the issue right, the format change was one that was visually distinct |
| 01:44.59 | gnarface | as in, you could LOOK at the key in plain text and see that it was too old to work |
| 01:45.22 | crimson_king | interesting.. |
| 01:45.43 | gnarface | but i would expect that "ssh -v -v -v ..." would give some complaint about it in that case too |
| 01:46.18 | gnarface | they also may have simply stopped allowing keys shorter than a certain byte-length |
| 01:46.35 | gnarface | i would expect verbose ssh execution to give some contextual complaint about that too, though |
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| 03:27.18 | TheBlueWizard | hiya all...when I insert the USB drive in, it doesn't seem to recognize the drive...any idea why? I'm looking at menu > settings > rem. drives and media and I see no checkmarks are being set....is that why? |
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| 03:38.41 | TheBlueWizard | discovers an online help, and is now reading it :-) |
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| 03:57.33 | xrogaan | /etc/pam.d/lightdm-greeter as a line `session optional pam_systemd.so' which obviously will generate an error or warning in the logs. |
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| 10:37.21 | eyalroz | BCMM: So, you're here too, then? |
| 10:45.52 | eyalroz | Well, let's try this channel. I'm having a keyboard layout issue: https://superuser.com/questions/1338196/ |
| 10:46.11 | eyalroz | Essentially, some X apps don't accept Hebrew characters, others do. |
| 10:47.42 | eyalroz | So when I'm in the `il` keyboard layout, spaces and punctuation marks register, but characters don't. But there's no clear rule - or at least not clear to me - as to which apps reject Hebrew characters, and I can't figure out where to look for the source of this issue |
| 10:47.48 | eyalroz | or what I can do to circumvent it. |
| 10:50.20 | gnarface | i think that is something that is up to the program creator to support or not |
| 10:50.28 | gnarface | but in theory it could be a font problem too.. |
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| 11:21.33 | eyalroz | gnarface: But wouldn't that just mean I get junk instead of the correct glyph? |
| 11:21.44 | eyalroz | Also, it's not just one or two programs, it's dozens |
| 11:21.53 | eyalroz | so it must be something more fundamental |
| 11:22.04 | eyalroz | If only I could see some kind of error log... |
| 11:25.00 | gnarface | it might give you a blank glyph in some cases, but there's no reason to expect programs will accept invalid characters if they know they are invalid |
| 11:25.44 | gnarface | sure there may also be one or two differently-behaving shared libraries that the misbehaved programs have in common with each other |
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| 11:26.49 | gnarface | i'm sure there's a log but i'm not sure which one |
| 11:26.52 | gnarface | check in /var/log |
| 11:26.56 | gnarface | also try running dmesg |
| 11:27.22 | gnarface | sometimes errors also go to the console X was started from, but they could be redirected elsewhere too |
| 11:27.43 | gnarface | also sometimes you can get gtk errors dumped to stderr/stdout too |
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| 14:36.30 | eyalroz | gnarface: So, no empty glyphs - deleting a glyph takes me right back to the one before the beginning of the suppose Hebrew char sequence. Also, nothing on stdout or stderr. |
| 14:38.34 | eyalroz | Nothing in dmesg or syslog - which makes sense, since we're talking about processes without the permission to write there. |
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| 14:40.03 | Beerbelott | Hello |
| 14:40.23 | Beerbelott | Does anyone know where bash auto-completion for `groups` command comes from? |
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| 14:53.59 | KatolaZ | Beerbelott: /usr/share/bash-completion/bash_completion |
| 15:00.57 | Beerbelott | That I know. Which file in it? :) |
| 15:01.13 | KatolaZ | Beerbelott: that one is a file... |
| 15:02.20 | Beerbelott | OK my bad |
| 15:02.45 | Beerbelott | I was looking into the completions directory on the side |
| 15:03.10 | Beerbelott | The question is now... There is the 'standard' groups command which auto-completes w/ users |
| 15:03.33 | KatolaZ | Beerbelott: have you tried searching for "groups" in that file, for instance? |
| 15:03.40 | Beerbelott | there also is a 'members' package containing the `members` command, but it does not come with auto-completion |
| 15:03.47 | Beerbelott | Yes I found it thx |
| 15:08.21 | Beerbelott | Cool I made a bash completion file for the members command inspired by what is existing for groups :) |
| 15:08.46 | Beerbelott | I now need to learn how to submit that to the upstream ;) |
| 15:09.01 | Beerbelott | As simple as `complete -g members` |
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| 15:26.50 | eyalroz | Beerbelott: Two possible places |
| 15:27.03 | eyalroz | Beerbelott: /usr/share/bash-completion |
| 15:27.05 | eyalroz | and |
| 15:27.11 | eyalroz | /etc/bash_completion.d |
| 15:27.27 | eyalroz | oh, sorry, looks like you got your answer already. |
| 15:29.07 | Beerbelott | np thx for helping anyway :) |
| 15:29.27 | Beerbelott | I am going to submit my idea to the maintainer of the package some time 'round |
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| 18:05.07 | fsr | muep_, all the installer isos are bios and uefi bootable. The amd64 desktop-live iso is bios and uefi bootable (and installable) |
| 18:05.24 | muep_ | good to know |
| 18:07.04 | fsr | and if you happen to have an old macbook that uses amd64 OS with 32-bit uefi, there's a way to install that, too. |
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| 19:26.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | (ot) new: https://jobs.freenode.net/ |
| 19:30.11 | nacelle | 32bit uefi/64bit cpu macbooks are great! |
| 19:30.16 | nacelle | has a few macs that do that |
| 19:30.19 | nacelle | core2duo things |
| 19:30.42 | nacelle | (and I upgraded a 1,1 to a 2,1) |
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| 19:43.15 | fsr | nacelle, how did you install? |
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| 20:17.22 | NewGnuGuy | Does anyone know of a good program for diffing two sqlite databases? |
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| 20:39.04 | DocScrutinizer05 | diff <(dump1) <(dump2) ? |
| 20:41.47 | nacelle | fsr: none of them are running devuan, if thats what you're asking |
| 20:43.49 | fsr | yeah, that's what I was askin |
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| 20:52.32 | nacelle | i imagine reFind would somehow be involved |
| 20:59.04 | fsr | nacelle, no, you don't need refind |
| 21:00.41 | nacelle | I believe thats how I do openbsd on the macbook I have |
| 21:02.05 | nacelle | is it going to be much different than the debian instructions? |
| 21:02.06 | nacelle | https://wiki.debian.org/InstallingDebianOn/Apple/MacBook/2-1 |
| 21:02.13 | nacelle | apparently theres a grub that does 32bit uefi |
| 21:02.14 | nacelle | neato |
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| 21:02.33 | fsr | yeah, boot the desktop-live amd64 iso... |
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| 21:03.01 | nacelle | cool |
| 21:03.03 | fsr | then install grub-efi-ia32 but don't let it install the bootloade |
| 21:03.09 | fsr | then run the installer |
| 21:03.15 | fsr | I think it'll work that way |
| 21:03.28 | fsr | other way is to run the installer first, then install the package in chroot |
| 21:03.36 | fsr | the deb is in the root of the filesystem |
| 21:04.12 | fsr | and all the grub*-bin packages are installed already |
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