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| 06:34.08 | sicelo | cu |
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| 06:39.11 | mchasard | hi |
| 06:39.55 | mchasard | how to get the last firefox 60 cause actually its forefox esr |
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| 07:42.34 | muep | mchasard: I think debian is planning to stay at the older ESR version for a while |
| 07:49.16 | mchasard | ok but theres some other way to install the laste firefox i'm reading some tuto on the net |
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| 07:56.32 | AntoFox | http://hezeh.org/how-to-install-latest-firefox-on-linux/ :P |
| 07:57.51 | mchasard | ok thanks |
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| 08:19.25 | _abc_ | Hello. I have a problem with a union mounted / persistent jessies system, don't know if it is union mount specific of devuan jessie specific: I can write any attached usb stick's partitions like sdc1 sdc2 with dd, ditto can write root device /dev/mmcblk0; Can NOT write /dev/sdc and /dev/mmcblk0p2 for example |
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| 08:19.52 | _abc_ | That is... weird. I assume either some setting in udev in jessie or the union mount interfering. Can someone please help me sort this out? fsmithred here? |
| 08:21.40 | golinux | _abc_: He's sleeping |
| 08:22.48 | _abc_ | Okay, will ask later. It's not a normal tz time to ask for usa but then geeks are the sleepless kind... |
| 08:23.15 | _abc_ | Any ideas how to skin this problem? |
| 08:23.49 | golinux | Not a clue |
| 08:24.07 | golinux | I'm headed to bed. |
| 08:24.15 | _abc_ | My current assumption is, that union mounting causes existing devs at the time of the mount in /dev/, to be 'frozen' and marked real-raw devices, and ones created after booting into unionfs mounted / to be treated like files |
| 08:24.29 | _abc_ | Which is my case as above. Apparently the kernel writes the dev files as files. |
| 08:24.51 | _abc_ | Okay, will reboot with different settings to check this out |
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| 08:43.46 | rrq | _abc_: are your /dev nodes persistent or created bmo hotplugging (eg udev)? |
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| 14:44.43 | opv | fsmithred: the netinstall has worked. i'll wager the grub issues came from the locked down bios |
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| 16:45.33 | buZz | did anyone try to install nvidia-driver from stretch-backports on ascii recently? |
| 16:46.31 | buZz | oh, nevermind |
| 16:46.40 | buZz | it didnt want to install earlier, but does now |
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| 17:14.31 | _abc_ | Hi. Am on ascii, nice experience, with some buts: I am testing it on live fs, with persistence, installed various stuff |
| 17:15.16 | _abc_ | 1) pulse is running, console echo -e "\a" refuses to issue any sounds at all, xset b 100 does not help, modprobe pcspeaker does not help |
| 17:16.20 | _abc_ | 2) suspend to ram is now so fast that the screen lock does not have time to kick in, there's a window of "opportunity" to mash keys upon wake from sleep to get "in" without a password. |
| 17:16.58 | _abc_ | Please suggest ways to slow down suspend to ram entry? And making sounds from the console and scripts. |
| 17:17.50 | _abc_ | poke fsmithred :) |
| 17:17.52 | _abc_ | hi |
| 17:26.01 | _abc_ | Wow I lost the lurking contest. |
| 17:26.40 | _abc_ | I somehow have time for devuan only on weekends, that should explain why I pester people at the most inconsiderate times here. Tbh, I did tank up on a few beers before starting "work" on Sat eve ;) |
| 17:29.56 | buZz | lol |
| 17:30.07 | buZz | good idea, time for beer |
| 17:30.27 | buZz | btw, 390 nvidia-driver vs 375 doesnt give me a less noisy card, just fyi |
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| 17:40.59 | _abc_ | Erm what did I just do? |
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| 17:41.57 | _abc_ | Suggest a way to avoid any window / tab switching in Terminal upon alt-number |
| 17:49.56 | cptmmm | I want to upgrade from jessie 1.0 to ascii 2.0, but a few days ago I heard that you need to pull eudev from the experimental repo, otherwise you'll end up with a broken install. Is this true? |
| 17:52.00 | _abc_ | I doubt it but wait for someone more qualified than I am cptmmm |
| 17:53.23 | cptmmm | Alright |
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| 17:59.30 | buZz | cptmmm: i've upgraded jessie systems to ascii but didnt have to pull anything from experimental |
| 17:59.38 | buZz | but, i didnt try that path recently |
| 17:59.47 | buZz | i just reinstalled from ascii liveusb though |
| 18:03.51 | _abc_ | buZz: just because, or, reasons? |
| 18:04.03 | _abc_ | Crashed/broke the installation perhaps? |
| 18:04.14 | buZz | i upgraded from single ssd root to raid0 over 2 ssds |
| 18:04.30 | buZz | so figured i might as well reinstall fresh |
| 18:05.53 | buZz | 1000MB/s rootfs is nice ;) |
| 18:06.22 | _abc_ | peaks at 5MB/s on usb stick now, usb2.0 |
| 18:06.34 | _abc_ | mooolaaaaaassssseeeeeess |
| 18:07.09 | Guest60192 | I can't rebind shortcut keys in liferea. It's annoying. |
| 18:08.50 | buZz | Guest60192: edit the source? :P |
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| 18:10.36 | opv | i've installed the mate-desktop, but it doesn't seem to have pulled X |
| 18:10.43 | opv | at least i have no startx command |
| 18:11.35 | buZz | i dont think startx gets pulled in |
| 18:11.42 | xrogaan | it's not even showing if there are shortcut. Does it take from gnome and their silly idea to reform the desktop? |
| 18:11.48 | buZz | also, recommended usage is a DM ;) like 'slim' or 'lightdm' |
| 18:11.55 | xrogaan | yeah, use a DM |
| 18:12.09 | buZz | xrogaan: tbh i have no idea what liferea is |
| 18:12.26 | buZz | ah, rss reader? |
| 18:12.28 | MinceR | ew, display managers |
| 18:13.19 | buZz | opv: i think 'apt install xorg' does pull in startx |
| 18:13.20 | buZz | hmm |
| 18:13.53 | xrogaan | xinit contains startx |
| 18:14.17 | xrogaan | you might want to install task-desktop |
| 18:14.19 | buZz | buzz@h81m:~$ dpkg -S `which startx` |
| 18:14.19 | buZz | xinit: /usr/bin/startx |
| 18:14.21 | buZz | yeah |
| 18:14.39 | buZz | i usually just apt install fluxbox slim , and be done with it :P |
| 18:15.16 | xrogaan | task-desktop depends xorg which depends xinit |
| 18:19.24 | opv | i have no xorg.conf.d under /etc/X11 - what's the replacement? |
| 18:19.38 | opv | i want to setup my touchpad settings according to https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=219052 |
| 18:19.45 | opv | the mate settings panel has no "tap to click" setting |
| 18:28.05 | _abc_ | I'm also happy to report the molasses in aptitude/synaptic were washed out, the ascii version is like 8 times faster, probably fixed the sync write bug |
| 18:28.10 | flrn | opv: xorg.conf is under /usr/share/X11/ now. |
| 18:28.27 | _abc_ | opv: you can find anyfile.ext using locate anyfile.ext |
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| 18:31.05 | flrn | cptmmm: I can't confirm any eudev woes on my latest upgrade to ASCII. |
| 18:38.17 | xrogaan | I guess I'll need akgregator; sadly it requires tons of kde dependency. |
| 18:38.52 | xrogaan | akregator* |
| 18:39.24 | cptmmm | Alright, thanks for answering. I'm going to try to ugprade now |
| 18:43.16 | opv | so, i've done a netinstall and installed a desktop and all the packages and things over ethernet |
| 18:43.34 | opv | now i've pulled out the cable and rebooted to see if the broadcom firmware for wifi works |
| 18:43.54 | opv | the machine now spends much time on boot waiting for a lock on eth0.ifupstate (or similar) |
| 18:45.18 | opv | "ifup: waiting for lock on /run/network/ifstate.eth0" |
| 18:48.25 | opv | takes about a minute |
| 18:52.21 | _abc_ | Sounds like faithfully copied systemd behavior so far |
| 18:52.27 | _abc_ | devuan is emulating TOO MUCH |
| 18:52.35 | _abc_ | systemd is known to wait indefinitely on boot, for network. |
| 18:52.43 | _abc_ | No network, no booting. So long. |
| 18:52.53 | KatolaZ | _abc_: this is not related in any way to systemd |
| 18:53.10 | _abc_ | In my experience it is. I tested it on iirc jessie with systemd. |
| 18:53.18 | _abc_ | And was one reason for my being here now. |
| 18:53.30 | _abc_ | 90% of the machines I need to maintain are offline. |
| 18:53.34 | KatolaZ | _abc_: again, there is no systemd in Devuan |
| 18:53.41 | KatolaZ | unless you get it from Debian... |
| 18:53.49 | _abc_ | I was kidding about that behavior being copied by devuan... |
| 18:54.00 | _abc_ | anyway unlike jessie which has alsa, ascii has pulse |
| 18:54.11 | KatolaZ | _abc_: I have no pulse in ASCII |
| 18:54.24 | _abc_ | Another Poetterig product. As on cue, I can't control the mic anymore, and I have trouble running alsa dependent older thing |
| 18:54.27 | xrogaan | check /etc/default/networking |
| 18:54.28 | KatolaZ | you have pulse only if you want pulse |
| 18:54.51 | _abc_ | pulseaudio is running |
| 18:54.56 | KatolaZ | just remove it |
| 18:54.59 | _abc_ | This is live ascii about to be installed |
| 18:55.04 | _abc_ | Can I fall back to alsa? |
| 18:55.13 | KatolaZ | sure |
| 18:55.15 | KatolaZ | you will |
| 18:55.39 | opv | thx xrogaan |
| 18:56.46 | _abc_ | Strange, I installed linphone but I can't find it anywhre |
| 18:56.49 | xrogaan | there are probably other places to look at, but I'm not aware of them yet. |
| 18:57.20 | _abc_ | Sigh forgot to click apply. |
| 18:58.12 | KatolaZ | opv: you can specify eth0 in EXCLUDE_INTERFACES |
| 18:58.19 | KatolaZ | /etc/default/networking |
| 18:59.29 | xrogaan | yeah but how do you make it so the system doesn't wait of the network? |
| 19:00.02 | KatolaZ | xrogaan: that's how you do it :) |
| 19:00.40 | opv | yeah, or CONFIGURE_INTERFACES=no |
| 19:01.14 | opv | the system behaves weirdly though - it'll freeze for a couple of seconds every now and then |
| 19:01.17 | opv | not sure how to troubleshoot that |
| 19:01.56 | opv | messages et all don't show anything unusual |
| 19:02.59 | KatolaZ | opv: what do you mean by "freeze"? |
| 19:03.37 | opv | it's weird. i can still alt-tab around, but any and all input doesn't do anything |
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| 19:04.26 | _abc_ | opv: how much free ram do you have. And what is the load. Run top in a terminal |
| 19:04.42 | opv | _abc_: already tried running htop. load is low, ram is loads free |
| 19:04.49 | _abc_ | interesting |
| 19:04.57 | _abc_ | What kernel are you on? Usual ascii 4.x? |
| 19:05.24 | opv | 4.9.0-6 (debian 4.9.88-1) |
| 19:05.43 | opv | fresh ascii netinstall with mate desktop & lightdm |
| 19:06.24 | xrogaan | urgh, lightdm |
| 19:06.43 | opv | i can replace it with slim or whatever, dc |
| 19:06.52 | opv | it's the first one that popped into my mind |
| 19:07.08 | opv | what would you recommend and why? |
| 19:07.40 | xrogaan | I just use the default. |
| 19:07.51 | opv | i would too, but mate didn't pull one |
| 19:08.29 | opv | so, my wifi device is recognized by ifconfig, but wicd doesn't see any networks |
| 19:08.56 | _abc_ | Which gtk is in use in fvwm in live ascii please? |
| 19:08.59 | _abc_ | 2.0 or 3.0 |
| 19:09.04 | xrogaan | did you install task-desktop and task-mate-desktop? |
| 19:09.23 | flrn | opv: slim is by far the fastest / lightest one I've seen so far since xdm |
| 19:09.37 | _abc_ | I agree with flrn |
| 19:09.52 | _abc_ | Also much slicker than fwvm's things |
| 19:10.51 | opv | rogerroger.wav |
| 19:11.58 | opv | KatolaZ: i was about to say it hasn't frozen about the last reboot, but it just has |
| 19:12.09 | KatolaZ | opv: iotop? |
| 19:12.10 | _abc_ | :) |
| 19:12.11 | opv | input stops. i see what i can do and can |
| 19:12.26 | _abc_ | Be patient. Is the disk light flickering? |
| 19:12.28 | opv | 't: alt-tap a couple times, and it completely froze after that |
| 19:12.57 | opv | that'd surprise me, it's an ssd & i've never had any issues with it |
| 19:13.00 | opv | but i'll check |
| 19:14.08 | opv | xrogaan: why does task-mate desktop pull gimp and gnome-orca and all that stuff? |
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| 19:14.26 | _abc_ | Probably the libs. |
| 19:14.28 | opv | pulse |
| 19:14.43 | _abc_ | Also it runs the above as image conversion/scaling tools probably |
| 19:14.50 | _abc_ | gimp can be pretty useful run from scripts. |
| 19:16.10 | xrogaan | opv: those are recommended I guess? |
| 19:16.29 | opv | xrogaan: auto-pulled from install task-mate-desktop |
| 19:17.24 | opv | how does main/contrib/nonfree work for dev1? |
| 19:18.01 | opv | nvm |
| 19:18.06 | opv | it's nice to have them autoincluded |
| 19:20.36 | KatolaZ | opv: you shouldn't have them auto-included I guess |
| 19:21.17 | opv | which is why i'm wondering. if anything, they should be part of some bigger metapackage |
| 19:21.23 | KatolaZ | nope |
| 19:21.26 | KatolaZ | they shouldn't :_ |
| 19:21.28 | KatolaZ | :) |
| 19:21.49 | KatolaZ | if people want them, they can just add them to sources.list |
| 19:21.51 | opv | depends, but yeah |
| 19:22.36 | KatolaZ | opv: expert install asks you if you want to include them |
| 19:22.44 | opv | i wasn't asked |
| 19:22.58 | KatolaZ | then you didn't do an expert install |
| 19:23.09 | opv | no, i didn't |
| 19:24.31 | KatolaZ | this works exactly as in Debian |
| 19:25.24 | opv | anyway... i've had iotop while it froze now, and nothing out of the ordinary |
| 19:28.02 | xrogaan | maybe your x server throwing a fit |
| 19:28.26 | opv | though even after installing task-mate-desktop wicd still doesn't see the wifi |
| 19:31.17 | fsmithred | _abc_, I've never seen screen lock with suspend in xfce. Are you using lightlocker or something? And 2, all I know about pulseaudio is how to remove it. |
| 19:31.30 | _abc_ | hehe #2 |
| 19:31.33 | _abc_ | hi wb |
| 19:31.46 | fsmithred | thanks |
| 19:32.04 | _abc_ | fsmithred: screen lock with suspend is an option in the wm settings, it used to work in jessie simply because entry into sleep mode was slow |
| 19:32.19 | _abc_ | i.e. the lock should be applied when entering sleep, not when exiting |
| 19:32.37 | _abc_ | entry is so fast in ascii there's no time for the lock to be set on |
| 19:32.43 | fsmithred | oh, I think I've seen it the other way in mate |
| 19:32.46 | _abc_ | <2 seconds from click to sleep |
| 19:33.01 | _abc_ | So I'll be looking for some way to make that longer |
| 19:33.08 | fsmithred | lift the lid, see the desktop for half a second, and then see the login window |
| 19:33.20 | _abc_ | yes. |
| 19:33.25 | _abc_ | That can be avoided completely. |
| 19:33.48 | fsmithred | figure out what commands it's using and replace them with a script? |
| 19:34.12 | _abc_ | Yes but that can be rather tedious |
| 19:34.22 | _abc_ | I have clues for it. |
| 19:35.11 | _abc_ | </me reads news and wonders where Harry got a 1950s 1960s electric! Jaguar car from> |
| 19:36.53 | opv | i've just done a graphical logout on mate/slim and it seems the handover on the way back hasn't worked |
| 19:37.10 | opv | i can alt+F away to other TTY's, but X shows a blank screen |
| 19:38.09 | _abc_ | is woozy has been so all day today. Will turn in early. Will be back <no Austrian accent> |
| 19:38.28 | opv | seems to be a slim misconfiguration |
| 19:39.12 | fsmithred | opv, you selected mate during installation, or did you add it after installing a base system? |
| 19:39.26 | opv | fsmithred: after installing the base |
| 19:40.54 | fsmithred | dpkg -l |grep libpolkit |
| 19:41.29 | fsmithred | and you should have libpolkit-backend-1-0-consolekit and libpolkit-gobject-1-0-consolekit |
| 19:41.38 | fsmithred | don't post the output here, please |
| 19:41.47 | opv | yeah yeah, sure |
| 19:41.55 | opv | got the consolekits |
| 19:41.58 | fsmithred | ok |
| 19:41.59 | opv | and the agent, and mate-polkit |
| 19:42.10 | fsmithred | ok, policykit-1 ? |
| 19:43.13 | opv | present |
| 19:44.04 | fsmithred | mate-session-manager? |
| 19:45.17 | opv | yes, and the daemon |
| 19:45.38 | opv | i also seem to have broken slim (or mate) while we have been speaking, by installing e17 |
| 19:46.12 | fsmithred | broken how? |
| 19:47.17 | opv | installed e17, logged out. handover back didn't happen as mentioned above. restarted slim. both mate and e17 logins didn't work, instant jumpback to slim. |
| 19:47.52 | opv | i've purged e17, but slim doesn't even load anymore. rebooting to make sure |
| 19:48.29 | fsmithred | did you try to restart slim service? |
| 19:48.47 | opv | yes, i restarted slim as mentioned. multiple times |
| 19:48.57 | fsmithred | multiple? you mean it worked? |
| 19:49.04 | opv | no |
| 19:49.09 | fsmithred | any time I've tried that, the machine hung |
| 19:49.11 | opv | rebooted to make sure, slim starts but shows a black screen |
| 19:49.32 | opv | it hung once on me, now that you mention it |
| 19:49.39 | opv | but i've successfully restarted it maybe 5-6 times |
| 19:50.10 | opv | i'm purging and reinstalling slim |
| 19:50.41 | fsmithred | check ~/.xsession-errors and /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
| 19:50.52 | fsmithred | brb |
| 19:51.20 | opv | no local .xsession-errors, nothing of note in Xorg.log |
| 19:51.59 | opv | purged and reinstall slim, get a login screen again, but jumps right back to it |
| 19:53.13 | flrn | opv: Did you configure slim somehow manually? What's under /usr/share/xsessions/ ? |
| 19:53.31 | opv | flrn: nope. xsessions only contains the mate file |
| 19:54.32 | opv | on reinstalling e17, slim restart hung. rebooting |
| 19:55.32 | opv | purging and reinstalling slim while keeping e17 installed |
| 19:56.07 | flrn | Did you push F1 on the login screen, to explicitly choose the mate session? |
| 19:56.19 | opv | sure |
| 19:56.37 | flrn | Just to be sure it's mate, which slim tries to run |
| 19:56.50 | opv | yeah, i've done that |
| 19:57.10 | opv | so sometimes slim shows a black screen, as if it wasn't running |
| 19:57.18 | opv | that's when i'm purging and reinstalling |
| 19:57.33 | opv | after that, it appears again, but jumps back to itself no matter the selected session |
| 19:58.00 | opv | installing another dm in order to really isolate the issue from slim |
| 19:58.04 | opv | *to slim |
| 20:00.27 | flrn | You could try to run mate from your .xinitrc with starx |
| 20:01.25 | flrn | with the command in the /usr/share/xsessions/mate.desktop (or so) |
| 20:01.33 | opv | yup. it's a slim issue |
| 20:01.41 | opv | lightdm loads both wm's fine |
| 20:05.14 | opv | so, when slim jumps back it seems to be an unexpected signal 15 |
| 20:05.30 | opv | and when it causes the machine to hang it's a signal 1, and connection to X lost |
| 20:05.41 | opv | whatever those mean |
| 20:06.09 | flrn | But before you were able to start mate and just didn't return to slim on exit? |
| 20:06.27 | opv | way back before i first installed a second wm (e17) |
| 20:07.12 | opv | well, "on exit" - that was the first time i logged out from mate |
| 20:07.16 | opv | instead of rebooting from the cli |
| 20:07.26 | opv | works fine with lightdm |
| 20:10.16 | flrn | Not sure if it makes sense trying to start mate via slim from the .xinitrc editing /etc/slim.conf... |
| 20:10.31 | flrn | by editing |
| 20:10.50 | opv | gimme a couple minutes to finish that apt run, and i'll test that |
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| 20:16.43 | flrn | opv: otoh, if you have the resources to run mate, why care about the seconds lightdm would adds...? |
| 20:16.57 | flrn | s/adds/add/ |
| 20:17.26 | opv | you mean why prefer slim over lightdm? idc, i'll just use lightdm |
| 20:18.25 | flrn | seems coherent ;) |
| 20:18.40 | flrn | did you find your wifi? |
| 20:18.55 | opv | no... |
| 20:19.01 | opv | it shows up in ifconfig -a so the driver is ok |
| 20:21.03 | flrn | Did you stop network-manager? Don't know if they can co-exist... |
| 20:21.27 | flrn | I mean wicd and nm. |
| 20:22.21 | opv | already checked for nm, it's not installed |
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| 20:23.25 | flrn | lol, how did you get mate installed w/o nm? |
| 20:24.06 | opv | netinstall |
| 20:24.09 | opv | ifup, dhclient |
| 20:24.26 | opv | then apt install mate |
| 20:25.11 | fsmithred | so you wouldn't automatically get wicd that way |
| 20:26.14 | opv | yes, i installed it afterwards |
| 20:26.28 | fsmithred | if you installed task-mate-desktop you would get wicd (and everything else, wanted or not) |
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| 20:26.54 | opv | installed it, and was surprised about the inclusion of gimp and others |
| 20:27.21 | flrn | I'm surprised, would have expected nm to be pulled in by mate... |
| 20:28.31 | flrn | The task-*-desktop packages compare to full blown live-DVDs. |
| 20:29.13 | fsmithred | wicd is the default with most of the desktops. nm had to be devuanized, so it's available, but not the default |
| 20:29.35 | opv | how can i make it see my wifi? |
| 20:29.45 | opv | wicd-curses shows a wifi interface, but no networks |
| 20:29.49 | opv | ifconfig -a sees the card |
| 20:29.56 | fsmithred | check that wicd is set to the correct interface |
| 20:30.23 | flrn | opv: what hardware are you on? |
| 20:30.57 | flrn | if sbc, get an antenna^^ |
| 20:30.58 | fsmithred | and did wifi work when you ran a live session? |
| 20:32.07 | opv | fsmithred: bingo. thanks! |
| 20:32.10 | opv | never ran a live session |
| 20:32.14 | opv | flrn: broadcom |
| 20:32.55 | fsmithred | I thought you tried installing from a live iso first |
| 20:33.08 | opv | oh. yeah, true |
| 20:33.16 | opv | it was the minimal one, and i couldn't be arsed to look up the commands |
| 20:33.18 | mchasard | is there some devuan derivatives updating like refracta ? |
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| 20:33.43 | fsmithred | mchasard, what are you asking? |
| 20:34.03 | fsmithred | miyolinux gets updated more frequently than refracta |
| 20:34.39 | mchasard | ok thanks fsmithred |
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| 20:35.24 | aitor | hi |
| 20:35.29 | fsmithred | hi |
| 20:35.36 | mchasard | its with openbox ? |
| 20:36.22 | fsmithred | yes, openbox |
| 20:36.36 | mchasard | i have to try it so ... |
| 20:36.38 | mchasard | thanks |
| 20:36.45 | fsmithred | yw |
| 20:36.59 | flrn | opv: I mean onboard or dedicated? If it's an integrated one on an SBC like Raspi et al, you might need to get an antenna. |
| 20:37.23 | opv | flrn: naw, it's a standard interchangeable notebook chip |
| 20:38.16 | fsmithred | the right wireless firmware is installed? |
| 20:38.38 | opv | fsmithred: it was the correct interface, none was setup for wireless |
| 20:39.47 | aitor | i've been reading the posts about void linux |
| 20:40.34 | mchasard | sorry i saw only a 32bits version miyolinux |
| 20:40.48 | fsmithred | you want ascii? |
| 20:41.41 | mchasard | if possible |
| 20:41.57 | aitor | i never used void linux, but yesterday i downloaded and iso and runit is fast |
| 20:42.04 | fsmithred | https://sourceforge.net/projects/miyolinux/files/2018-Release/Openbox/ |
| 20:42.30 | fsmithred | looks like there's one from january and one from a couple weeks ago |
| 20:43.46 | fsmithred | opv, maybe check the debian wiki for your wireless. There might be special instructions for your. |
| 20:43.56 | fsmithred | yours |
| 20:44.28 | aitor | i'd like to see runit in combination with vdev :) |
| 20:44.32 | mchasard | thanks i 'm downloading it |
| 20:44.57 | fsmithred | aitor, you think it would make vdev faster? |
| 20:45.49 | aitor | nope :) |
| 20:46.16 | aitor | for now |
| 20:52.02 | opv | fsmithred: dude, i'm telling you it worked. you suggested the interface and indeed, it wasn't configured in wicd |
| 20:52.16 | opv | i'm just too pampered... it's horrible, i don't like modern computing |
| 20:52.20 | fsmithred | lol, it's a common problem |
| 20:52.44 | aitor | fsmithred: i misunderstood you |
| 20:54.55 | fsmithred | what, aitor? |
| 20:56.45 | aitor | Ups..., yes, runit would make vdev faster, but not in the other way around :( |
| 20:59.07 | opv | it looks like my favourite plugin (umatrix) doesn't like the old firefox esr version |
| 20:59.13 | opv | ist here a way to get a current one? can |
| 20:59.22 | opv | 't seem to find any official deb repos from mozilla |
| 21:00.47 | aitor | i'm not obsessed with the boot time, and my devuan jessie works fine with vdev :) |
| 21:01.22 | fsmithred | opv, can't find it in addons? |
| 21:01.49 | opv | the firefox addon? it's there, but it doesn't like the old firefox esr version from the official repos |
| 21:01.58 | opv | so i can't install it |
| 21:01.58 | fsmithred | I see it |
| 21:02.08 | fsmithred | how old? I'm running jessie at the moment. |
| 21:02.34 | opv | 52.8.0esr from ascii |
| 21:02.42 | fsmithred | oh |
| 21:02.52 | fsmithred | and I didn't try to install it |
| 21:03.09 | opv | the umatrix page though says "you are using 52.0, it needs at least 56.0" |
| 21:04.17 | fsmithred | 52.5 here |
| 21:05.30 | opv | well... no umatrix then |
| 21:05.35 | opv | the new kde looks really neat |
| 21:05.48 | opv | i've always been more of a gnome guy, but this looks good. imma keep it |
| 21:05.49 | fsmithred | I just installed umatrix, no problem |
| 21:05.58 | opv | how? |
| 21:06.31 | fsmithred | tools, add-ons, search for umatrix, click on install |
| 21:06.54 | fsmithred | hang on, I'll try in ascii |
| 21:08.05 | aitor | fsmithred: here you are the most recent packages of yad for amd64: |
| 21:08.09 | aitor | http://gnuinos.org/YAD/ |
| 21:08.10 | fsmithred | ah, in ascii, tools, add-ons, then extensions |
| 21:08.43 | fsmithred | then search for umatrix and install it |
| 21:09.13 | fsmithred | the add-ons page is now an ad-ons page. |
| 21:09.26 | fsmithred | full of ads |
| 21:09.41 | fsmithred | ads-on page |
| 21:10.46 | flrn | opv: you can get it directly from github, just need to disable the xpi signature check in about:config |
| 21:12.48 | opv | fsmithred: what the fuck :D funny stuff |
| 21:12.57 | opv | TIL |
| 21:14.04 | aitor | bye, time to bed :) |
| 21:14.13 | opv | o/ |
| 21:14.22 | aitor | \o |
| 21:16.07 | flrn | opv: or get the last non-webext version from mozilla. |
| 21:18.50 | opv | flrn: just out of curiosity, would it auto-update? |
| 21:21.21 | flrn | opv: No more updates, eol for the XUL version. |
| 21:21.30 | opv | aww |
| 21:23.19 | flrn | well, soon it's eol for ff 52-esr as well... |
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| 22:03.40 | phogg | opv: you can use an older release of umatrix. Their main page lists several. |
| 22:07.10 | opv | phogg: fsmithred 's workaround worked |
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