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| 00:20.15 | *** topic/#devuan is Stable (2017-05-25): Jessie 1.0.0 stable release || Latest (2018-05-10): ASCII 2.0.0 release candidate is out! || This is the Devuan https://devuan.org/ discussion channel | Please take off-topic conversation to #debianfork | /msg chanserv info #devuan | !listkeys #devuan <foo> | Devuan Forum: https://dev1galaxy.org/ |
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| 01:07.17 | vvande | The story just hit El Reg half an hour ago. |
| 01:07.20 | vvande | https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/05/10/devuan_linux_version_2_release_candidate/ |
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| 01:33.54 | Xenguy | Congrats on the ASCII RC |
| 01:34.00 | Xenguy | Just read about it now |
| 01:34.09 | Xenguy | I assume the real party is somewhere else |
| 01:34.18 | Xenguy | Looks promising and more |
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| 01:36.05 | golinux | Xenguy: Party is over. We're all exhausted and ready to drop. |
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| 01:37.13 | Xenguy | I'll bet |
| 01:37.38 | Xenguy | Again, congrats to all, and thank you for the work you all do |
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| 01:49.04 | NewGnuGuy | https://distrowatch.com/?newsid=10201 :-) |
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| 01:51.51 | Guest86765 | Minere BTC enquanto navega e trabalha sem deixar o pc lentão e economizando energia obs: so funciona no Google Chrome do pc. https://getcryptotab.com/718967 Video tutorial https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=luzqQN3kL4g&t=166s |
| 01:55.54 | Criggie | Guest86765: please stop spamming |
| 01:59.14 | Guest86765 | ok |
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| 02:38.13 | xrogaan | maybe I should subscribe to the mailing list |
| 02:39.23 | xrogaan | distrowatch's article point to https://lists.dyne.org/lurker/message/20180509.221626.08ad5bb2.en.html |
| 02:39.26 | xrogaan | which has been deleted |
| 02:40.18 | fsmithred | any idea what the content of the message was? (just general subject) |
| 02:40.47 | xrogaan | I just found out. |
| 02:41.19 | fsmithred | oh, must have been the release announcement |
| 02:41.57 | xrogaan | yes, it's the announcement. It's stated on the distrowatch article :x |
| 02:42.35 | fsmithred | https://lists.dyne.org/lurker/message/20180509.221107.87646d40.en.html |
| 02:43.12 | xrogaan | Just about to post that :P |
| 02:45.24 | xrogaan | there is a lot of amd machines https://popcon.devuan.org/tmp-www/stat/submission.png |
| 02:53.17 | golinux | fsmithred: That is the lurker bug we were talking about today |
| 02:53.37 | fsmithred | yup |
| 02:53.54 | fsmithred | did you notice that the original message stayed and two replied disappeared? |
| 02:54.02 | fsmithred | replies |
| 02:54.40 | golinux | Just saw that now. The failure is escalating. |
| 02:58.54 | xrogaan | Apparently that lurker software didn't get "released". It "escaped", leaving a bloody trail of designers and QA people in its wake. |
| 02:59.52 | golinux | So I hear |
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| 14:11.59 | Gargravarr | afternoon all, i saw the RC notice and decided to try upgrading a test VM from Jessie. unfortunately, just like last time, it upgraded file under Jessie, but kernel-panics on boot. i've got screenshots of the KP, but i read the instructions on submitting bug reports and it seems to expect plaintext. i don't want to type out a stack trace and i don't trust OCR :) what should i do here? |
| 14:12.24 | Gargravarr | i'm using KVM+QEMU on a Jessie host |
| 14:18.54 | telst4r | maybe you could post them somewhere and give the link? |
| 14:19.12 | telst4r | are you positive it's the kernel or is it some missing driver / initrd |
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| 14:20.27 | Gargravarr | telst4r: 'BUG: Unable to handle kernel paging request' immediately before the stack dump |
| 14:21.39 | Gargravarr | i tried the upgrade a month or two ago and it failed similarly. i mentioned it in here some time after that and was asked to file a bug report if it happened again |
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| 14:35.06 | Gargravarr | okay, i just checked the KVM website and there's instructions for connecting a virtual serial console to log the boot messages, which worked |
| 14:35.48 | Gargravarr | while i was at it, i remembered, i ran into something similar with Ubuntu on these hosts. it doesn't like it if you specify the vCPU as 'Copy Host', have to drop it to a C2D or similar |
| 14:36.58 | Gargravarr | kernel must be calling an instruction in the 6th-gen i7 in my VM tanks that isn't properly virtualised (in this version of KVM) |
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| 14:40.53 | telst4r | This stuff is out of my knowledge :P |
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| 15:43.05 | KatolaZ | https://www.linuxjournal.com/content/firefox-quantum-bcachefs-ubuntu-devuan-20 |
| 15:43.57 | KatolaZ | https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/05/10/devuan_linux_version_2_release_candidate/ |
| 15:44.32 | telst4r | nice :) |
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| 15:54.59 | msiism | after upgrading from jessie to ascii i'm seeing some errors from eudev on boot. the one is probably due to missing firmware (rtlwifi). don't know about the other two. see: http://paste.debian.net/plainh/bed5b60b |
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| 16:05.06 | flrn | msiism: just saw "mtp-probe"... do you have an android phone configured to be discovered on connect? |
| 16:05.24 | msiism | flrn: no. |
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| 16:09.22 | flrn | msiism: Do you have libmtp-runtime installed, which provides mtp-probe? |
| 16:09.30 | samayra | sent a long message: samayra_2018-05-10_16:09:29.txt <https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/v1/download/matrix.org/uvsKWOJnqAYtLIqFRgEUXPJn> |
| 16:09.50 | samayra | xserver starts, but is stuck at a grey screen. |
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| 16:10.37 | flrn | just checking if Ascii still discovers the smartphone |
| 16:11.43 | msiism | samayra: maybe this helps: https://friendsofdevuan.org/doku.php/community:upgrading_to_ascii#x_freezes_on_start-up |
| 16:13.01 | msiism | samayra: i'm having all kinds of problems with X after upgrading from jessie to ascii, btw. |
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| 16:14.50 | msiism | flrn: i just read up on what mtp is. i think i totally doen't need that at all. |
| 16:16.21 | msiism | samayra: did you install any desktop environment? how do you start X? |
| 16:20.24 | mcr | I installed certbot from jessie-backports, but it seemed to be missing the http-01 challenge (and all the challenges). I wonder if packages are missing in backports. |
| 16:22.11 | KatolaZ | mcr: just use certbot-auto |
| 16:22.25 | KatolaZ | the "devuan" certbot package is not "devuan"-ised at all |
| 16:22.33 | flrn | msiism: I use it to mount my ~android phone. But it doesn't ATM, I'll have to check. |
| 16:22.34 | KatolaZ | they just put the debian package there |
| 16:22.44 | KatolaZ | which assumes that systemd is in place |
| 16:23.27 | KatolaZ | mcr: what do you mean by "missing the http-01 challenge"? |
| 16:26.08 | msiism | flrn: i don't even own any kind of mobile phone etc. so, i can probably just ignore that error. it's probably due to a misconfiguration in /lib/udev/rules.d/69-libmpt.rules. |
| 16:29.40 | msiism | flrn: let's see what happens when i move that file out of the way and reboot... |
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| 16:34.53 | msiism | flrn: removing the file from /lib/udev/rules.d/ made the error go away. |
| 16:35.15 | mcr | KatolaZ, the certbot package seems to be missing any compatible challenges. The associated packages with the challenges just aren't there. I used the source, certbot-auto to run things, yes. |
| 16:35.43 | msiism | is there any place where you'd store udev rules files that are not in use currently? |
| 16:38.45 | flrn | msiism: sorry for the lag, just trying to get my phone mounted... |
| 16:39.33 | flrn | msiism: why not just create a directory under /etc/udev/ or /lib/udev/ for unused rules? |
| 16:40.55 | msiism | flrn: np. ok, well i just thought there might be some standard location. i'd say it's a bit odd if there isn't. |
| 16:50.12 | msiism | just dicovered that the are three places on the system where you can define udev rules... |
| 16:56.08 | hgunth | msiism: Just wait till you discover how many places to install executables there are. |
| 16:56.37 | flrn | msiism: thanks, this helped to discover and fix that I couldn't jmtpfs-mount my phone anymore... |
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| 16:57.53 | flrn | A custom rule under /etc/udev/rules.d/ conflicted with the one (probably just recently) provided by libmtp under /lib/udev/rules.d |
| 16:58.03 | msiism | hgunth: that doesn't really count, imo. you can put an executable anywhere on the system. if you'd like to run a bsh script from /tmp, that should work too, but it's probably senseless. |
| 16:58.09 | msiism | flrn: i see. |
| 16:59.47 | msiism | hgunth: also, the usual places (/bin/, /usr/bin/, /usr/local/bin, /opt/ etc.) all have different purposes defined in the fhs. don't they? |
| 17:00.56 | flrn | msiism: where is the third place for udev rules besides /lib/udev and /etc/udev? |
| 17:01.27 | msiism | flrn: https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Eudev#The_.2Fdev_directory |
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| 17:04.01 | flrn | msiism: the contents of the /run directory isn't static! |
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| 17:05.37 | msiism | flrn: ok, good to know. |
| 17:05.43 | msiism | that leaves two places |
| 17:06.10 | msiism | or, why would you put any rules under /run then? |
| 17:07.04 | flrn | msiism: I guess for being created on the fly by some daemon or such |
| 17:07.22 | msiism | flrn: ok, that makes sense. |
| 17:08.38 | flrn | msiism: I'm not too much into the (e)udev stuff yet, just got started recently with some custom rules |
| 17:11.27 | msiism | flrn: ok, i've had no need to do that yet. but i'm beginning suspect the network device error i'm getting is due to an udev misconfig as well. |
| 17:13.18 | flrn | msiism: Is your "rtlwifi" working? Perhaps udev is looking some other firmware blob? |
| 17:13.34 | flrn | s/udev/eudev |
| 17:13.41 | msiism | flrn: wifi is working fine. |
| 17:14.01 | msiism | flrn: i was actually talking about an error message conderning eth0. |
| 17:14.20 | msiism | considering... |
| 17:15.52 | muep | the ascii rc live installer seems to allow installation only to disks whose device node name starts with 's' |
| 17:16.05 | muep | or at least /dev/vda does not get detected |
| 17:17.14 | KatolaZ | muep: which image? |
| 17:17.54 | muep | devuan_ascii_2.0.0_rc_amd64_desktop-libs.iso |
| 17:18.05 | muep | er, desktop-live at the end |
| 17:18.31 | KatolaZ | fsmithred: ^^^ |
| 17:18.46 | KatolaZ | muep: you should be able to put the device by hand, IIRC |
| 17:19.02 | muep | it only gives me an empty list from which to choose |
| 17:19.19 | muep | I worked around it by symlinking sda->vda and sda1->vda1 |
| 17:19.35 | flrn | leaves for local newcomer live music culture |
| 17:21.12 | muep | did not seem to work though. got an unbootable system |
| 17:22.48 | KatolaZ | muep: please ask fsmithred |
| 17:23.20 | fsmithred | muep, you're correct. /dev/vda will not be detected |
| 17:23.35 | fsmithred | it will see sda and nvme |
| 17:23.43 | KatolaZ | fsmithred: do we have an option to manually add the device? |
| 17:23.51 | fsmithred | if you use the cli installer, you have to enter the device, and /dev/vda should work |
| 17:24.05 | KatolaZ | I mean, vda is what most VM users will have... |
| 17:24.19 | fsmithred | is that what qemu does? |
| 17:24.24 | KatolaZ | yep |
| 17:24.26 | fsmithred | in vbox it's always sda |
| 17:24.31 | fsmithred | ok, I can add that |
| 17:24.45 | KatolaZ | is it possible to add a text input? |
| 17:24.54 | KatolaZ | so either choose from the list |
| 17:24.57 | fsmithred | that would be harder to do |
| 17:24.58 | KatolaZ | or type in |
| 17:24.59 | muep | names of any virtio disks tend to start with vd* |
| 17:25.00 | KatolaZ | ok |
| 17:25.18 | fsmithred | ok, I've never encountered that, but I believe you |
| 17:25.18 | KatolaZ | yes muep |
| 17:25.39 | fsmithred | never used qemu virtual disk; I just use it sometimes to boot isos |
| 17:26.15 | msiism | the version of lynx on ascii is "2.8.9dev11-1 i386" according to dpkg. does that mean lynx was forked for devuan? |
| 17:26.25 | muep | by default, plain qemu will emulate an IDE disk so you would not necessarily see it unless you know to switch to virtio |
| 17:26.35 | KatolaZ | nope msiism |
| 17:26.52 | KatolaZ | it would have been +devuanX.Y |
| 17:26.59 | msiism | KatolaZ: ok, i see. thanks. |
| 17:27.06 | fsmithred | so, muep, right now your choices are to use the cli installer or wait a few minutes for me to tell you what lines to edit in the script |
| 17:27.23 | KatolaZ | easiest way to check: apt-cache show PACKAGE | grep "^Filename:" |
| 17:27.35 | muep | so the cli installer is on the same image? |
| 17:27.51 | KatolaZ | yes muep |
| 17:27.53 | KatolaZ | should be |
| 17:27.53 | fsmithred | yeah, just run 'refractainstaller' in a root terminal or with sudo |
| 17:27.54 | msiism | KatolaZ: ok |
| 17:28.26 | KatolaZ | msiism: if you have DEBIAN then the package comes from Debian |
| 17:28.33 | KatolaZ | if you have DEVUAN, well... :) |
| 17:28.37 | msiism | KatolaZ: i suspected that, yes. |
| 17:28.41 | KatolaZ | :P |
| 17:28.55 | KatolaZ | actually, the best way is: |
| 17:29.08 | KatolaZ | apt-cache show PACKAGE | grep "^Filename:" | cut -d "/" -f 2 |
| 17:29.37 | msiism | KatolaZ: ok, right. |
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| 17:30.32 | msiism | KatolaZ: maybe that should be added to the package management section of the devuan manual. i'll put a note.. |
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| 17:30.55 | _abc_ | Congrats for the new rc out. I need to try it soon. |
| 17:30.58 | KatolaZ | msiism: we should probably put it into a script |
| 17:31.08 | KatolaZ | well, a silly one, TBH |
| 17:31.12 | _abc_ | Are there nice updates for lots of packages coming from Jessie to ASCII? |
| 17:31.19 | _abc_ | Or just kernel and os stuff |
| 17:31.20 | KatolaZ | but I guess might be useful |
| 17:31.26 | KatolaZ | _abc_: ? |
| 17:31.37 | msiism | _abc_: diff has colors (afaik), nano has undo... |
| 17:31.39 | KatolaZ | something like "the whole system" |
| 17:31.42 | _abc_ | KatolaZ: well, what's the experience like.... |
| 17:32.05 | msiism | _abc_: you can use rofi instead of dmenu now. |
| 17:32.09 | _abc_ | I'm too lazy to read interminable release notes. Also upgrading on debian always has been a move from very old to slightly less old. |
| 17:32.10 | KatolaZ | _abc_: don't remember: I switched to ascii more than one year and a half ago :) |
| 17:32.14 | samayra | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:32.15 | samayra | anyone? |
| 17:32.21 | _abc_ | msiism: what's rofi? |
| 17:32.33 | msiism | _abc_: an elaborate dmenu replacement |
| 17:32.36 | _abc_ | I need to read up on everything you guys say ;) |
| 17:32.42 | msiism | samayra: did you read my reply? |
| 17:32.57 | _abc_ | msiism: is it covered in the executive intro / etc of the release? |
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| 17:33.19 | msiism | _abc_: what do you mean? |
| 17:33.32 | KatolaZ | _abc_: Devuan ASCII has about 55000 packages... |
| 17:34.07 | msiism | _abc_: also, there is next-generation gpg now. |
| 17:34.39 | msiism | _abc_: i just know theres thing because they relate to software i use more or less regularly. |
| 17:37.45 | muep | fsmithred: cli installer made me a booting system |
| 17:38.42 | fsmithred | cool |
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| 18:14.03 | KatolaZ | fsmithred, muep: we should possibly file a bug report about that glitch in refractainstaller-guir |
| 18:14.09 | KatolaZ | so that we don't forget |
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| 18:16.42 | msiism | did devuan actually keep the traditional network device naming scheme (eth0 etc.) for ascii? (didn't follow all of the discussion) |
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| 18:18.12 | DocScrutinizer05 | a tad OT, but I don'T know where else to rise the concern and discuss it with peers more savvy than I am: rkhunter uses wget, it seems. wget must not get used by root processes, but as it seems rkhunter runs as root, right? if that's correct, should it get fixed (run rkhunter with limited permissions) |
| 18:19.04 | KatolaZ | msiism: yes |
| 18:19.20 | KatolaZ | the default in eudev is to use the traditional naming scheme |
| 18:19.36 | msiism | KatolaZ: ok, so that would be relevant for migrating from debian stretch to devuan ascii. |
| 18:20.10 | KatolaZ | msiism: I guess it's mentioned in devuanfanboys guides |
| 18:20.19 | KatolaZ | but please check |
| 18:20.24 | msiism | KatolaZ: will do. |
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| 18:28.48 | DocScrutinizer05 | ummmph >> - The '--update' and --versioncheck' options can now use commands other than wget to download files. Supported commands are now wget, curl, elinks, links, lynx, bget and GET. Once a command has been found, it will be used for all downloads<< https://sourceforge.net/p/rkhunter/rkh_code/ci/master/tree/files/CHANGELOG [1.3.0 (22/09/2007)] |
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| 18:40.22 | msiism | flrn: about the udev rules: i'm just gonna append ".off" to rules files i want to deactivate. |
| 18:40.56 | msiism | to the file name, i mean. |
| 18:42.27 | DocScrutinizer05 | OMG https://sourceforge.net/p/rkhunter/bugs/121/ created 2014, still pending, and misses the true issue of wget possibly getting exploited |
| 18:45.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | you might start to wonder if the creators of rkhunter like to keep this vulnerability they think can get exploited by them and only by them |
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| 18:47.35 | _abc_ | https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/05/10/red_hat_systemd/ well someone is saying systemd could need some pushing? What, world domination is in peril? >;) |
| 18:49.42 | _abc_ | "Red Hat Summit Senior Red Hat techies this week urged Red Hat Enterprise Linux sysadmins to give Systemd a chance if they haven't already taken the software to heart." -- wait so they are not drinking their own poison by force? |
| 18:50.07 | nemo | That's a pretty systemd-koolaid article overall |
| 18:50.10 | nemo | including the final line |
| 18:50.13 | _abc_ | I am confused. This is #defocus but still. Normal rh and centos ship without systemd? |
| 18:50.48 | MinceR | no, they ship with systemd |
| 18:50.58 | MinceR | rHELL started it at release 7 |
| 18:51.03 | _abc_ | Then why the article? Rah rah? |
| 18:51.11 | MinceR | yeah |
| 18:51.33 | MinceR | "it's not enough that we force you to use systemd, you must also LIKE it!" |
| 18:51.46 | _abc_ | Okay. The article is in the same theregister.co.uk issue which announced devuan ascii out. Makes perfect sense. |
| 18:52.06 | DocScrutinizer05 | hehe |
| 18:53.07 | MinceR | maybe they have authors on multiple sides, like arse technica |
| 18:53.34 | _abc_ | ollecting $5 per side adds up quick with lots of sides. |
| 18:53.37 | _abc_ | +c |
| 18:54.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | do I need ACL or is there a better way to create a process that has read access to (almost) all files but write access only to those files owned by the process user? |
| 18:56.11 | _abc_ | Also the politically correct crap wars which already plagued freebsd seem to make inroads at gnu. Does devuan have a non-policy on stupid non computing related things, meaning, censorship, political correctness and such? ref: https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/05/09/gnu_glic_abort_stallman/ |
| 18:56.21 | DocScrutinizer05 | bindmount r/o the whole filesystem, then bindmount the write-enabled files over that? |
| 18:56.36 | _abc_ | DocScrutinizer05: that is a little extreme but should work |
| 18:56.58 | _abc_ | DocScrutinizer05: I think you can create a group and user for this process and solve it like that |
| 18:57.04 | DocScrutinizer05 | extreme threat need extreme cures ;-) |
| 18:57.07 | _abc_ | It can still write to public +rw |
| 18:57.17 | _abc_ | Extreme threat? |
| 18:57.31 | DocScrutinizer05 | rkhunter running as root using wget |
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| 18:58.28 | _abc_ | I'd be more worried about rkhunter being owned soon by a local rootkit, no? |
| 18:58.57 | DocScrutinizer05 | I might just deprive rkhunter of any wget etc for its normal check runs |
| 18:59.04 | _abc_ | I think you're supposed to run it from an external rescue disk? |
| 18:59.18 | DocScrutinizer05 | uh? no |
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| 18:59.27 | _abc_ | I mean, I would. |
| 19:00.03 | DocScrutinizer05 | of course arootkit once in place prolly could also neuter rkhunter |
| 19:00.25 | DocScrutinizer05 | if it would know and care about |
| 19:00.31 | _abc_ | The competition seems to create rootkits built into the os already https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/04/04/microsoft_windows_defender_rar_bug/ |
| 19:01.13 | DocScrutinizer05 | _abc_: anyway see https://sourceforge.net/p/rkhunter/bugs/121/ |
| 19:01.30 | DocScrutinizer05 | still "pending" since 4 years |
| 19:01.59 | muep | I'd expect the authors at theregister to even be quite indifferent about what init is used |
| 19:03.33 | _abc_ | muep: I think they'd take sides depending on which one can be written up better in a forked tongue article. |
| 19:03.39 | _abc_ | It keeps the readers amused. |
| 19:03.47 | _abc_ | +d |
| 19:04.04 | _abc_ | is extremely tired after almost 2 days of sleeplessness |
| 19:04.27 | muep | an article can take a point of view without the writer having a strong pre-existing opinion |
| 19:08.53 | muep | also this first one does cover the fact that not everyone is happy about the transition and it links to some of the related incidents, so to me it does not read like an ad or pushing an agenda |
| 19:09.34 | KatolaZ | well, I found the article in The Register quite balanced |
| 19:09.45 | KatolaZ | (I mean the one about Devuan) |
| 19:09.50 | KatolaZ | they just reported the news |
| 19:13.13 | _abc_ | Nice, I'll try to sleep this night, for a change, so, bye, I'll be back |
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| 19:15.39 | MinceR | especially if the writer was paid a sufficient amount by the subject of the article :> |
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| 19:21.52 | muep | to me it looks like a pretty standard interview-based article about stuff advocated by a company in their own event. not something for which the subject would need to pay money |
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| 19:24.44 | DocScrutinizer05 | hmm I guess I can "exploit" http://paste.opensuse.org/66018891 by providing a specially crafted permission-dropping wrapper around wget to $RKHWEBCMD |
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| 20:22.56 | DocScrutinizer05 | could ''' su >"${OUTPUT_FILE}" --command "wget 2>/dev/null $URL -O -" nobody ''' be a reasonable and more safe replacement for ''' wget -q -O "${OUTPUT_FILE}" ${URL} 2>/dev/null ''' ? |
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| 20:35.59 | kabo | Hi, I downloaded the devuan qemu image |
| 20:36.06 | kabo | but I can't get it to boot |
| 20:36.08 | kabo | https://imgur.com/a/gx9QZUa |
| 20:36.28 | kabo | /dev/sda1 dose not exist |
| 20:36.44 | kabo | how do I get it to use /dev/vda1 ? |
| 20:40.20 | kabo | I'm using virt-manager |
| 20:44.18 | nacelle | use virtio disks |
| 20:44.37 | nacelle | ? |
| 20:44.56 | g4570n | kabo: I think I remember that someone asked something similar a while ago, look here https://botbot.me/freenode/devuan/msg/99925065/ |
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| 21:04.36 | kabo | I managed to hit "e" at the grub screen and edited /dev/sda1 into /dev/vda1 :) |
| 21:06.15 | DocScrutinizer05 | and that worked? |
| 21:06.36 | kabo | yup |
| 21:07.51 | golinux | Cool! |
| 21:08.04 | DocScrutinizer05 | hmm, isn't there a way to rename virtual drives in virt-manager? |
| 21:09.07 | kabo | I then edited /boot/grub/grub.cfg and did search replace for /dev/sda1 to /dev/vda1 so now it works on reboot as well |
| 21:09.19 | kabo | DocScrutinizer05: I don't know, I couldn't find one |
| 21:09.39 | kabo | Perhaps it's possible through cli tools |
| 21:09.45 | DocScrutinizer05 | it's like 2 years since I looked into anything virtualization |
| 21:12.57 | KatolaZ | parazyd: ^^^ |
| 21:14.18 | fsmithred | kabo, what comes up when you boot? I know nothing about those images. |
| 21:14.49 | fsmithred | btw, katolaz, I just pushed that fix for the installer |
| 21:15.02 | KatolaZ | fsmithred: you mean refractainsytaller-gui? |
| 21:15.03 | kabo | it gives me a console and I can log in as root |
| 21:15.07 | fsmithred | yes |
| 21:15.31 | KatolaZ | kabo: that's what the VM image is supposed to do |
| 21:15.32 | fsmithred | now I'm downloading the qemu image so I can have a /dev/vda to test with |
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| 21:24.53 | DocScrutinizer05 | KatolaZ: they had to edit /boot/grub/grub.cfg for this to work |
| 21:25.49 | kabo | KatolaZ: yeah, I had to press "e" at the grub screen to replace /dev/sda1 with /dev/vda1 to get to the console |
| 21:25.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | I wonder why the kernel detected the root image as /dev/vda instead /dev/sda |
| 21:26.29 | kabo | KatolaZ: I posted an imgur link to what it looked like the first time I booted it up |
| 21:27.24 | djph | if it's a VM, and you tell the hypervisor it's a virtual disk, it gets /dev/vdX |
| 21:28.00 | djph | it annoys me, so I always kick it and tell it the HDD is SATA |
| 21:29.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | djph: how specifically would you tell this to qemu? |
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| 21:31.40 | DocScrutinizer05 | I think this is exactly the problem here |
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| 21:38.41 | djph | DocScrutinizer05: err, I use virt-manager, but on the (TURNED OFF) VM -> View: Details -> Disk1 -> Advanced: Disk Bus: SATA |
| 21:38.48 | djph | instead of "VirtIO" |
| 21:39.22 | djph | hey, waitaminute, didn't you /ignore me because you didn't like me telling you something was a bad idea? |
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| 21:44.00 | cke__ | shouldnt grub and fstab etc be using UUIDs to avoid this sort of issue? :P /me runs |
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| 21:56.24 | djph | cke__: yeah, but when dealing with /dev/whatever (I do sometimes) ... having to remember it's vdXY, instead of sdXY is annoying. |
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| 23:35.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | hmm how about a /topic update? |
| 23:35.52 | DocScrutinizer05 | ooh, sorry |
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