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| 06:43.28 | thessy | hi, found a little bug in package devuan-baseconf in ascii. is an issue under https://git.devuan.org/devuan-packages/devuan-baseconf the right way to notify? |
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| 07:05.16 | gnarface | thessy: https://bugs.devuan.org/ |
| 07:06.10 | gnarface | (it wasn't up yet when that gitlab was created, so you'll probably see bugs filed in both places) |
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| 07:07.03 | KatolaZ | thessy: which issue? |
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| 07:42.34 | thessy | devuan-baseconf |
| 07:44.01 | thessy | is creating file "/data/etc/apt/apt.conf.d/05disable-suggests" |
| 07:44.28 | thessy | i would say, that's the wrong place |
| 07:44.50 | thessy | should be "/etc/apt/apt.conf.d/05disable-suggests" |
| 07:46.11 | thessy | ah, i see http://bugs.devuan.org//cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=73 |
| 07:47.57 | thessy | uhem, bug is closed?! |
| 07:50.50 | thessy | have version 0.6.4+devuan2 on a fresh installed ascii box |
| 07:51.13 | thessy | what does "although the package should be close to useless now." mean? |
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| 08:30.26 | KatolaZ | thessy: ? |
| 08:30.37 | KatolaZ | I think that was fixed, right? |
| 08:30.42 | KatolaZ | et me check |
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| 08:41.40 | thessy | installed about 15.03. ascii vm from netboot (https://lists.dyne.org/lurker/message/20180315.115418.666a08b6.en.html) |
| 08:41.58 | thessy | after that file "/data/etc/apt/apt.conf.d/05disable-suggests" exists |
| 08:42.14 | thessy | so i would say, bug is back again |
| 08:42.17 | KatolaZ | thessy: ok |
| 08:42.37 | KatolaZ | but there is a correct file in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/? |
| 08:43.09 | thessy | no |
| 08:50.36 | KatolaZ | thessy: it looks like the bug was solved but the package was not rebuilt somehow |
| 08:50.42 | KatolaZ | I need to look into that |
| 08:51.05 | KatolaZ | in the meanwhile, I will reopen the bug and mark it as current for ascii as well |
| 08:52.01 | KatolaZ | actually, the jessie version has the correct fix |
| 08:52.09 | KatolaZ | so it's just relevant for ascii and ceres |
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| 09:10.19 | thessy | KatolaZ: thanks |
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| 17:20.22 | KnoF | hi |
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| 17:32.52 | aitor | hi KnoF |
| 17:33.07 | KnoF | hello aitor, hows it going |
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| 17:34.41 | aitor | well, yesterday i tried the live-sdk using the repository of gnuinos with amprolla3 instead of pkgmaster.devuan.org and worked |
| 17:35.55 | KnoF | great :) |
| 17:36.14 | aitor | this weekend i'll downgrade eudev from ascii to jessie and i'll remove all the packages related with systemd, including libsystemd0 |
| 17:38.22 | aitor | using the live-sdk, debootstrap installed the base-files from devuan ignoring the base-files of gnuinos, even being the first one missing in packages.gnuinos.org |
| 17:39.37 | aitor | i'll try to fix this issue |
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| 18:20.56 | GnuGanoo | Hi. Is anyone here using Devuan Testing for non-VMed desktop? |
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| 18:32.09 | golinux | GnuGanoo: Yes. Many users are on ASCII (Debian Stretch) on metal |
| 18:33.33 | Oldmoss | golinux: "on metal"? |
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| 18:34.31 | golinux | hardware as opposed to VM |
| 18:34.31 | specing | should be 'on substrate' |
| 18:35.05 | cirdan | bare metal |
| 18:35.25 | golinux | (and the floodgates open) |
| 18:36.30 | GnuGanoo | Is it stable enough for everyday use? Are all debian packages available? |
| 18:36.59 | Oldmoss | ah |
| 18:37.00 | GnuGanoo | (you know, I don't really need new packages, just stability, security and non-systemd init) |
| 18:38.02 | Oldmoss | I have ascii on one desktop (upgraded from Jessie) and one from liveCD on a laptop. |
| 18:38.51 | Oldmoss | and I am probably an eternal newbie, but both of them have been running nicely for some time now |
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| 18:39.26 | Oldmoss | Almost no need for for "troubleshooting" |
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| 18:43.18 | Oldmoss | Daily/sporadic use of Tor Browser, Palemoon, Thunderbird, Claws, Hexchat, KeepassX, Gimp, OwnCloud client |
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| 21:29.41 | aitor | hi |
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| 22:05.19 | aitor | i'm packaging some apps like Tor as web browser (instead of Palemoon), and also gFTP (instad of Filezilla) |
| 22:07.06 | aitor | i removed systemd from the builddeps of Tor, but another builddep was missing: dh-strip-nondeterminism |
| 22:07.16 | aitor | i'm trying again |
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| 22:09.19 | MinceR | so they've even infected tor |
| 22:14.01 | aitor | MinceR: there are some C directives like |
| 22:14.04 | aitor | #ifdef HAVE_SYSTEMD |
| 22:14.57 | aitor | and also in debian/rules, lines like these: |
| 22:15.01 | aitor | ifeq ($(DEB_HOST_ARCH_OS),linux) |
| 22:15.11 | aitor | dhoptions += --with systemd |
| 22:15.21 | MinceR | ew |
| 22:15.24 | aitor | confflags += --enable-systemd |
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| 22:15.37 | aitor | endif |
| 22:16.41 | aitor | i commented them, but the issue with dh-strip persists, nothing to do with systemd |
| 22:17.16 | aitor | i get something like this: |
| 22:17.18 | aitor | dh_strip --dbgsym-migration='tor-dbg (<< 0.3.1.5-alpha)' |
| 22:17.33 | aitor | dh_strip: unknown option; aborting |
| 22:17.45 | aitor | debian/rules:74: recipe for target 'override_dh_strip' failed |
| 22:19.46 | KatolaZ | aitor: which version of dh are you using? |
| 22:19.51 | KatolaZ | that might be the issue |
| 22:21.08 | aitor | KatolaZ: yes, maybe... |
| 22:21.44 | aitor | tor recommended (>=10), but i'm using 9.2015... |
| 22:22.55 | aitor | thanks, it happened to me in other cases i seem to remember :) |
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| 22:28.18 | aitor | bye, a bit late for me |
| 22:29.39 | aitor | g'night, KatolaZ, MinceR |
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