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| 08:51.37 | jaromil | I'm sorry. I have no further comment. https://slashdot.org/submission/8055013/devuan-gives-up-to-systemd |
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| 08:56.12 | Fox_Muld | yes, finally! That was overdue! I for one accept our new Poettering overlords. |
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| 09:02.46 | jaromil | I for one accept our new Poettering overlords. |
| 09:06.21 | telst4r | LennartOS here it comes |
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| 09:42.41 | aitor | hi all, i'm trying to change from udev to vdev and vice versa via 'apt-get install' |
| 09:43.17 | aitor | i've been using a script named 'vdev-assistant' and an empty dummy package providing 'libudev1' so far |
| 09:43.47 | aitor | the only way i can find is to keep constant the version of udev, because vdev must provide a concrete version thereof |
| 09:44.29 | aitor | it should be by the following way: |
| 09:44.45 | aitor | a constant version of udev breaks with vdev |
| 09:44.57 | aitor | vdev provides this concrete version of udev |
| 09:45.22 | aitor | then, apt-get install udev and apt-get install vdev would work |
| 09:45.53 | aitor | but initramfs-tools and live-boot must be forked |
| 09:47.50 | aitor | i downloaded the sources of udev, but they contain (the whole?) systemd, and systemd_215-17+deb8u7_amd64.deb (missing in pkgmaster.devuan.org) is generated |
| 09:48.09 | aitor | does amprolla remove this package? |
| 09:49.06 | aitor | i can remove all the *systemd* packages changing debian/rules |
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| 09:50.59 | aitor | libsystemd0 is not neede doing some minor changes in a handful of packages like gvfs, sane-backends... |
| 09:53.12 | aitor | *needed |
| 09:59.15 | aitor | as far as i know, in the case of sane, libsystemd0 is only useful for network scanning |
| 09:59.41 | aitor | bbl |
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| 16:20.37 | gnu_srs1 | Hi, did you see this: https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/guix-devel/2018-04/msg00001.html I almost got (april) fooled by it :D |
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| 20:02.12 | flrn | Another nice one for a calm Sunday evening: https://eattheworldbook.com/ |
| 20:02.23 | flrn | (No april's fool, but I found it through this one: https://ponzischeme.io/) |
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| 20:07.41 | furrywolf | lol |
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| 20:20.40 | Cobratek | Greetings |
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| 20:30.17 | Cobratek | Do the directions for debian jessie at https://github.com/brave/browser-laptop/blob/master/docs/linuxInstall.md#debian-jessie-and-ubuntu-zesty-yakkety-xenial-and-trusty-amd64 apply to devuan as well? |
| 20:41.33 | flrn | Cobratek: If there's no systemd dependency involved, I'd say: yes. |
| 20:42.05 | flrn | But I suggest to understand the commands, like "apt-key add"... |
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| 20:53.21 | Cobratek | yeah I've been around the block a couple times, and adding sources to apt willy nilly never ended well for me. |
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| 22:04.10 | flrn | Cobratek: just wanted to mention it, mainly for the security aspect of adding sources / keys |
| 22:08.06 | flrn | but as long as you don't mix more comprehensive repositories, there should be no deeper technical issues but "is installable" or "fails due to missing dependencies" |
| 22:08.53 | flrn | nevertheless IMO it makes a lot of sense to get into pinning before mixing repos. |
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