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| 03:25.43 | vvande | you can swear on a stack of bibles |
| 03:26.16 | vvande | "hoooray" isn't _exactly_ swearing though |
| 03:26.22 | vvande | you can go a little further |
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| 04:26.04 | gnarface | just transitioned an ascii install from udev to eudev |
| 04:26.20 | gnarface | it did not go smoothly but i was able to repair the damage |
| 04:26.35 | gnarface | i hope it's not like that for everyone... |
| 04:27.27 | gnarface | the udev transitional package pulls in eudev, but eudev's postinstall script fails to complete the install because it thinks udev is still "providing service" or whatever that means (even if it's stopped) |
| 04:27.41 | gnarface | removing udev of course to get it out of the way though, also removes the currently running kernel |
| 04:27.51 | gnarface | that was a nail-biter |
| 04:28.15 | gnarface | at this point if i'd rebooted prematurely i think it would have basically hosed the system |
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| 07:24.47 | DocScrutinizer05 | the heck http://termbin.com/phfsd apt-cache policy - never knew that before |
| 07:24.55 | DocScrutinizer05 | oops echan |
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| 08:30.04 | amarsh04 | for me, apt-cache should be called apt-thrash-the-disk |
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| 08:51.06 | nacelle | apt-get-an-ssd |
| 08:51.59 | zer0def | apt-get a better packaging system |
| 08:52.05 | zer0def | pewpew |
| 08:52.29 | adhoc | what is the limiting factor there really? |
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| 16:27.56 | aitor | hi all |
| 16:28.08 | aitor | i'm alive :) |
| 16:28.44 | fsmithred | and you're known as aitor for a change |
| 16:28.46 | fsmithred | welcome back |
| 16:29.20 | aitor | fsmithred! |
| 16:29.26 | fsmithred | hi |
| 16:29.27 | aitor | so many years... |
| 16:29.30 | fsmithred | lol |
| 16:29.39 | fsmithred | by your clock, maybe |
| 16:29.48 | aitor | LOL |
| 16:30.07 | aitor | very sharp |
| 16:30.30 | aitor | i have my repo of gnuinos working in local with amprolla3! |
| 16:30.37 | fsmithred | cool! |
| 16:30.56 | aitor | gnuinos 2 jessie is comming soon |
| 16:30.56 | fsmithred | you're merging devuan the way devuan merges debian? |
| 16:31.07 | aitor | yes |
| 16:31.56 | aitor | i'm only "hosting" (in local) the packages of gnuinos |
| 16:32.07 | fsmithred | right, that makes sense |
| 16:34.07 | aitor | i'll document it in d1g |
| 16:35.48 | aitor | i only have one line in my sources.list: |
| 16:35.58 | aitor | deb http://localhost/gnuinos/ jessie main |
| 16:36.28 | fsmithred | no -security or -updates? |
| 16:36.44 | aitor | still not |
| 16:37.27 | fsmithred | little steps |
| 16:37.40 | fsmithred | they add up |
| 16:37.58 | aitor | i'm going to buy a dedicated server in a few days |
| 16:38.22 | fsmithred | :) |
| 16:39.30 | fsmithred | I've been working on refractainstaller |
| 16:40.27 | fsmithred | uefi support is in both gui and cli installers. gpt with bios boot is supported. full disk encryption is supported. |
| 16:40.45 | aitor | where are the latest sources? |
| 16:40.55 | fsmithred | here on my desk |
| 16:41.28 | fsmithred | I did post one on a gist |
| 16:41.45 | fsmithred | before the full disk encryptiong got added |
| 16:41.53 | fsmithred | I'll make packages soon |
| 16:42.14 | aitor | ok |
| 16:42.24 | fsmithred | https://gist.github.com/fsmithred/86594851ca7412754f65b907ebd41e58 |
| 16:42.42 | fsmithred | that's just the gui installer script |
| 16:43.25 | aitor | added to my bookmarks |
| 16:46.07 | aitor | Dean Linkous: the founder of refracta |
| 16:47.41 | fsmithred | yup |
| 16:47.47 | fsmithred | haven't seen him in a long time |
| 16:49.05 | aitor | did you meet him in person? |
| 16:52.10 | aitor | in a long time by your clock, maybe? |
| 16:53.21 | fsmithred | no, haven't met him |
| 16:53.49 | golinux | I mniss meandean |
| 16:53.55 | fsmithred | me too |
| 16:54.10 | golinux | I have seen him here once or twice |
| 16:54.25 | golinux | but not recently |
| 16:54.53 | n4dir | i miss lots of people from forums.debian, back then. |
| 16:55.01 | aitor | talking about travel across time and space, stephen hawking died this week :( |
| 16:55.06 | fsmithred | first time he went into debianfork, he almost got booted for being a troll |
| 16:55.10 | n4dir | dean being the biggest diva of all of them, of course. |
| 16:55.39 | fsmithred | hi n4dir |
| 16:55.45 | golinux | n4dir: The gan's all here! |
| 16:55.48 | n4dir | hi fsmithred, hi golinux hi all |
| 16:55.51 | golinux | gang's really |
| 16:56.14 | golinux | I miss the reracta forum |
| 16:56.16 | n4dir | americans. I found a new hobby. NHL hocky fights. So funny. |
| 16:56.16 | fsmithred | dzz is still mia |
| 16:56.24 | fsmithred | lol |
| 16:57.07 | n4dir | someone give me a quick info about devuan. Is there a new version out? |
| 16:57.16 | fsmithred | in Europe, the crowds fight, don't they? |
| 16:57.18 | golinux | Ascii beta |
| 16:57.23 | n4dir | fsmithred: not really |
| 16:57.28 | golinux | There it's soccer |
| 16:57.33 | n4dir | yup. |
| 16:58.57 | n4dir | ascii is (so to speak) debian stable? |
| 17:00.20 | fsmithred | yes |
| 17:02.01 | golinux | A clean install is pretty smooth. Upgrades can br a little tricky |
| 17:02.37 | n4dir | Most of my machines i didn't boot for ages. If i will do anything, i will do an installation |
| 17:08.20 | aitor | <PROTECTED> |
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| 17:57.38 | bozonius | test |
| 17:57.41 | bozonius | ok |
| 17:58.08 | bozonius | lost #vbox, so I was testing here to see if I could get reponse sorry to bother you |
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| 18:11.37 | KatolaZ | bozonius: ? |
| 18:12.17 | bozonius | nvm |
| 18:12.33 | bozonius | I should have done my test in #freenode or a sandbox somewhere |
| 18:13.05 | bozonius | again, sorry to bother you. No issues with devuan other than losing the VM in vbox due to some kind of problem with a Virtual Disk |
| 18:13.28 | bozonius | I've checked the logs and It looks like a vbox issue of some sort |
| 18:14.23 | KatolaZ | ok |
| 18:14.26 | KatolaZ | sorry to hear that |
| 18:14.27 | KatolaZ | :\ |
| 18:14.42 | bozonius | np |
| 18:14.59 | bozonius | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:15.22 | bozonius | I did clear the /var/cache/apt packages directory |
| 18:15.28 | bozonius | just to be safe |
| 18:15.50 | bozonius | Devuan is humming along fine. Rarely have a problem actually. |
| 18:17.08 | bozonius | oh. Just thoughta sth |
| 18:17.30 | bozonius | I'm running cacti, which uses mysql and mysql stores its db on /var also... |
| 18:17.47 | bozonius | I just upgraded cacti yesterday! |
| 18:17.54 | bozonius | could it be...? |
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| 18:21.26 | bozonius | maybe a bug in mariadb that tried to access invalid blocks, which was the type of error I was seeing. |
| 18:21.40 | bozonius | OMG |
| 18:22.18 | bozonius | I ran the replication log cleanup... to get rid of some of its internal logs (I did it per official means) |
| 18:22.37 | bozonius | but I wonder if somehow that still didn't work right perhaps |
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| 18:23.18 | bozonius | the problem was that cacti was filling up /var by its mariadb (mysql) generating a lot of log data in /var |
| 18:23.31 | bozonius | this actually makes sense, even to bozonius! |
| 18:23.57 | bozonius | why that should bring down vbox is totally wrong though |
| 18:24.28 | bozonius | but at least I have an idea of why the VM (probably) got hung |
| 18:26.14 | quadbootman | hi i've just done a update then an upgrade: this is the... 3rd time (to get the paste) http://dpaste.com/03SXJXV |
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| 18:26.44 | quadbootman | anyone know why it's error |
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| 18:32.34 | KatolaZ | quadbootman: you have a udev file in /etc/init.d |
| 18:32.45 | KatolaZ | if you remove it, the upgrade will succeed |
| 18:32.53 | KatolaZ | there is a recent thread on DNG |
| 18:32.58 | KatolaZ | and a topic on dev1galaxy |
| 18:33.00 | KatolaZ | about it |
| 18:33.03 | KatolaZ | quadbootman: ^^^^ |
| 18:33.07 | quadbootman | thx |
| 18:33.09 | KatolaZ | np |
| 18:33.14 | KatolaZ | sorry for the inconvenience |
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| 19:11.07 | bluemarlin | hello all , i'm having trouble upgrading eudev to 3.2.2-12 in ascii it fails on "insserv rejected the script header". Have i missed some info that this upgrade needs manual intervention? |
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| 19:12.38 | fsmithred | bluemarlin, probably this: https://lists.dyne.org/lurker/message/20180317.192510.75ff0deb.en.html |
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| 19:13.30 | bluemarlin | argh, thanks! |
| 19:17.58 | bluemarlin | yea that did the trick, thanks fsmithred :) |
| 19:19.56 | fsmithred | yw |
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| 19:35.42 | d9867eb | Hi, I have a debian stretch system. I want to migrate devuan. What is the easiest way? |
| 19:36.14 | fsmithred | change sources to devuan, update, dist-upgrade, reboot, remove systemd |
| 19:36.20 | fsmithred | oh |
| 19:36.25 | fsmithred | change to sysvinit first |
| 19:36.59 | d9867eb | ok, how do i do that? |
| 19:37.08 | d9867eb | change to sysv |
| 19:38.38 | fsmithred | install systemd-sysv |
| 19:38.43 | fsmithred | reboot |
| 19:38.52 | fsmithred | I think that's all |
| 19:39.03 | fsmithred | apt will tell you if it wants more |
| 19:39.21 | fsmithred | and it's time for me to leave again |
| 19:40.24 | fsmithred | d9867eb, what desktop do you have? |
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| 19:41.01 | d9867eb | fsmithred: it is a home server |
| 19:41.07 | fsmithred | ah, ok |
| 19:41.08 | d9867eb | no desktop |
| 19:41.10 | fsmithred | should be easy |
| 19:41.26 | KatolaZ | there is a guide |
| 19:41.32 | KatolaZ | to upgrade from stretch |
| 19:41.51 | fsmithred | I was trying to find it |
| 19:41.55 | d9867eb | I want to test this on my home server before doing it on other machines |
| 19:43.25 | KatolaZ | d9867eb: https://devuan.org/os/documentation/dev1fanboy/ |
| 19:43.38 | KatolaZ | yours would be a migration to ascii, I guess |
| 19:43.42 | KatolaZ | since you are on stretch |
| 19:43.52 | KatolaZ | https://devuan.org/os/documentation/dev1fanboy/migrate-to-ascii |
| 19:44.12 | d9867eb | KatolaZ: thanks |
| 19:45.00 | KatolaZ | yw |
| 19:47.21 | d9867eb | the best alternative to systemd timers is cron, right? |
| 19:47.42 | d9867eb | I used some systemd timers in past |
| 19:51.13 | KatolaZ | d9867eb: what does time=r |
| 19:51.16 | KatolaZ | d9867eb: what does timer do? |
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| 20:03.29 | d9867eb | KatolaZ: timers let me run me run a command multiple times on automated basis. |
| 20:03.30 | bluemarlin | KatolaZ: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Systemd/Timers wow they replaced cron too |
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| 20:50.11 | d9867eb | udev upgrade is failing me |
| 20:50.22 | d9867eb | I followed the guide |
| 20:51.14 | d9867eb | this is the error i got: insserv: script eudev: service udev already provided! |
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| 21:05.25 | flrn | d9867eb: what does "dpkg -l udev" tell? Shoud be "Transitional package for eudev". Otherwise *I think* you can safely purge it, if eudev is installed. |
| 21:06.01 | flrn | like: in both cases you can remove it... |
| 21:06.42 | d9867eb | flrn: ok thanks |
| 21:07.24 | d9867eb | flrn: any idea if mdev will come to devuan? |
| 21:07.31 | d9867eb | when? |
| 21:08.11 | flrn | No ide about mdev. Be careful, you might mess up your network interfaces, have a look at your upgrade log - |
| 21:09.54 | d9867eb | flrn: i already messed that up. i fixed it though. |
| 21:12.25 | flrn | OK, +/–good |
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| 21:51.40 | d9867eb | ok/quit |
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| 22:37.01 | JJNova | Quite a few people in here. Has anyone had success getting Plex or Emby to install/run ? If so, I could really use some assistance. |
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| 22:42.09 | d9867eb | hi, I recently migrated from debian stretch. I want to use runit instead sysv. How do I that? |
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