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| 01:20.28 | *** topic/#devuan is Recent (2017-05-25): Jessie 1.0.0 stable release http://ur1.ca/qxaa5 || This is the Devuan https://devuan.org/ discussion channel (logged at https://botbot.me/freenode/devuan - with useful 'search') | Please take off-topic conversation to #debianfork | /msg chanserv info #devuan | !listkeys #devuan <foo> | Devuan Forum: https://dev1galaxy.org/ |
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| 11:59.57 | maurizio1 | Hi all, I turned the pc on yesterday evening, and magically...there's no audio. I didn't make any changes since last time when it was working, and alsamixer shows the volume is on and max. I don't have pavucontrol installed. Dooes anyone have any suggestion? |
| 12:00.40 | maurizio1 | by the way I am running Devuan testing on a laptop lenovo T60 |
| 12:13.44 | nepugia | i used to have problems with alsa selecting hdmi out as default soundcard instead of the actual speakers (or headphones) |
| 12:14.03 | nepugia | though dunno if that applies, unless you installed another kernel version |
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| 12:25.09 | maurizio1 | hi nepugia, no, it doesn't apply, I am not using hdmi |
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| 12:28.40 | nepugia | i wasn't using mine either ;) |
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| 12:29.20 | nepugia | Maybe you have muted a needed channel in alsamixer? |
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| 12:34.10 | maurizio1 | I tried to do 'amixer set Master unmute', but no luck |
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| 12:43.37 | nepugia | alsamixer also shows the mute status at the botom (either a number for volume or M for muted afaik) |
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| 12:44.21 | maurizio1 | mine shows '00', not 'MM' |
| 12:44.59 | maurizio1 | but the volume is '100' |
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| 13:05.04 | fsmithred | maurizio1, how many sound cards does 'aplay -l' show? |
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| 13:05.59 | maurizio1 | looks like it's only one, but it lists it twice. |
| 13:06.24 | maurizio1 | card 0: Intel [HDA Intel], device 0: AD1981 Analog [AD1981 Analog] |
| 13:06.32 | fsmithred | yeah, that's normal |
| 13:07.55 | fsmithred | sometimes the hdmi shows up as a second card. |
| 13:08.13 | maurizio1 | actually there's no hdmi in this laptop |
| 13:08.24 | fsmithred | but it would be listed as card 1 |
| 13:09.27 | maurizio1 | what's strange is that I was also getting some bips, like when I unplugged the cable. Now I don'get the bips either |
| 13:09.45 | fsmithred | is pulseaudio installed? |
| 13:09.49 | maurizio1 | The other entry is:card 0: Intel [HDA Intel], device 1: AD1981 Digital [AD1981 Digital] |
| 13:09.57 | maurizio1 | no, pulseaudio is not |
| 13:10.04 | fsmithred | good |
| 13:10.10 | maurizio1 | :) |
| 13:10.14 | fsmithred | that simplifies things a bit |
| 13:10.36 | maurizio1 | it's a netinstall |
| 13:11.38 | fsmithred | a netinstall in which you unchecked the desktop stuff, I guess |
| 13:12.03 | maurizio1 | yes |
| 13:12.12 | maurizio1 | then I installled i3-wm |
| 13:12.26 | fsmithred | you're using pkgmaster.devuan.org in sources.list? |
| 13:12.39 | maurizio1 | let me check |
| 13:14.47 | maurizio1 | deb http://gb.mirror.devuan.org/merged/ ascii main contrib non-free |
| 13:14.50 | maurizio1 | deb-src http://gb.mirror.devuan.org/merged/ ascii main contrib non-free |
| 13:14.52 | maurizio1 | # jessie-security, previously known as 'volatile' |
| 13:14.54 | maurizio1 | deb http://gb.mirror.devuan.org/merged/ ascii-security main contrib non-free |
| 13:14.56 | maurizio1 | deb-src http://gb.mirror.devuan.org/merged/ ascii-security main contrib non-free |
| 13:14.58 | maurizio1 | # jessie-updates, previously known as 'volatile' |
| 13:14.58 | fsmithred | careful |
| 13:15.00 | maurizio1 | deb http://gb.mirror.devuan.org/merged/ ascii-updates main contrib non-free |
| 13:15.00 | fsmithred | stop |
| 13:15.02 | maurizio1 | deb-src http://gb.mirror.devuan.org/merged/ ascii-updates main contrib non-free |
| 13:15.04 | maurizio1 | #jessie backports |
| 13:15.05 | fsmithred | you might get bounced |
| 13:15.06 | maurizio1 | deb http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/merged ascii-backports main |
| 13:15.08 | maurizio1 | deb-src http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/merged ascii-backports main |
| 13:15.33 | fsmithred | shit |
| 13:16.04 | fsmithred | Sigyn, undo |
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| 14:47.21 | fromport | fsmithred: maurizio got klined ? I think he just needed the remark you gave me "apt-get install apulse" |
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| 15:39.14 | sokan | Does devuan have a good support with docker? |
| 15:39.42 | sokan | I'm going to get me a server at some point and thinking of dev1 for it. But since some packages I want aren't on dev1 main repo I could go with docker. |
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| 15:46.52 | fromport | Get:1 http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/merged unstable/main amd64 docker amd64 1.5-1+b1 [12.8 kB] <- docker seems supported |
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| 16:06.42 | sokan | Good to know :) |
| 16:06.44 | sokan | thanks fromport |
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| 16:22.42 | vivus | is a lot of end-user software adopting systemd ? |
| 16:24.50 | jonadab | Well, Gnome did, but Gnome had already been hemorraging userbase for some time and is rapidly approaching complete irrelevance. |
| 16:26.11 | nepugia | Well, gnome doesn't neccesarily depend on systemd, seeing as it can run on FreeBSD just fine |
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| 16:32.45 | jonadab | Yeah, it just, umm, integrates with it, or something. |
| 16:33.08 | jonadab | (And poetteringed distros tend to compile it in a way that causes it to rely on it.) |
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| 21:59.37 | vivus | alright, so long as I can use most of the basic software, I will just run on Devuan testing to have the latest packages |
| 22:01.31 | golinux | vivus: The currently is no Devuan "testing" |
| 22:01.39 | golinux | ie "Buster" |
| 22:02.00 | vivus | some guy wrote a bad review about Devuan and how stable is so outdated |
| 22:02.07 | golinux | Ascii = stretch - current Debian stable. |
| 22:02.43 | golinux | Beowulf = Buster and it's not set up yet. |
| 22:03.24 | golinux | Everyone is entitled to an opinion. We're about stability. |
| 22:05.32 | vivus | golinux: this was the review: http://wayoflinux.com/blog/debian-derivatives-devuan |
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| 22:10.58 | KatolaZ | vivus: it had 0 comments.... |
| 22:11.04 | KatolaZ | looks like a solitary rant to me :) |
| 22:11.10 | KatolaZ | btw, second golinuc |
| 22:11.13 | KatolaZ | golinux: |
| 22:11.23 | KatolaZ | everybody is entitled to an opinion |
| 22:12.49 | golinux | I liked that that rant said this: Even the first impression upon visiting the website is that of professionalism |
| 22:13.08 | golinux | Nice screenshots too! |
| 22:13.23 | golinux | :D |
| 22:13.27 | KatolaZ | :) |
| 22:14.34 | golinux | It's been up for a month and gotten zero traction. We've certainly had quite a few new users in the last month. |
| 22:15.55 | golinux | And for the love of readability . . . never use a serif font on a website. Serif works on paper just fine but not so well on pixels. |
| 22:16.14 | golinux | So seems to be clueless on several counts |
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| 22:42.42 | aitor | hi |
| 22:44.06 | golinux | Hi aitor! |
| 22:44.36 | g4570n | hi aitor o/ Guest63007! |
| 22:45.03 | Guest63007 | hi :) |
| 22:45.22 | g4570n | new nick? :D |
| 22:46.02 | Guest63007 | I like GuestXXXXX :) |
| 22:46.13 | Guest63007 | nobody talked here about newlisp :( |
| 22:48.06 | Guest63007 | newlisp is related with vdev, but nobody talked here about it |
| 22:48.51 | Guest63007 | http://www.newlisp.org/ |
| 22:50.51 | Guest63007 | rrq's scanner doesn't work, i seem to remember |
| 22:53.37 | Guest63007 | i've to add another package to vdev: that is "vdev-tools" |
| 22:54.21 | fsmithred | aitor, I got my scanner working in vdev, but that was over a year ago |
| 22:54.45 | fsmithred | Guest63007, ^^^ |
| 22:55.42 | Guest63007 | fsmithred: you are form Boston, not from Australia; so, you are not Ralph |
| 22:55.49 | Guest63007 | from* |
| 22:57.39 | Guest63007 | vdev-tools will include the udev2vdev binary, in c++ |
| 22:57.43 | fsmithred | did you solve it for him? |
| 22:57.56 | fsmithred | what's that do? |
| 22:57.56 | Guest63007 | nope |
| 22:59.09 | Guest63007 | udev2vdev compiles udev *.rules for vdev |
| 23:00.00 | Guest63007 | i'll explain it better tomorrow |
| 23:00.22 | fsmithred | good idea. Lot of people will be happy about that. |
| 23:03.57 | Guest63007 | there is a *.rules related with cdrom_id (maybe?), and i had an issue with that in live boots, do you remember? |
| 23:05.50 | Guest63007 | tomorrow i'll build newlisp and try to apply it to the squashfs.hwdb |
| 23:06.34 | Guest63007 | bye :) |
| 23:06.53 | g4570n | Guest63007: bai :) |
| 23:06.59 | fsmithred | bye |
| 23:07.26 | Guest63007 | bai means yeas in basque |
| 23:07.35 | Guest63007 | yes* |
| 23:07.45 | fsmithred | white in Chinese |
| 23:07.55 | Guest63007 | goodbai :) |
| 23:07.59 | g4570n | :O |
| 23:08.42 | g4570n | chau, then |
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