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| 00:44.45 | fsmithred | AlexLikeRock, did you get it working? |
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| 01:21.33 | *** topic/#devuan is Recent (2017-05-25): Jessie 1.0.0 stable release http://ur1.ca/qxaa5 || This is the Devuan https://devuan.org/ discussion channel (logged at https://botbot.me/freenode/devuan - with useful 'search') | Please take off-topic conversation to #debianfork | /msg chanserv info #devuan | !listkeys #devuan <foo> | Devuan Forum: https://dev1galaxy.org/ |
| 01:36.27 | AlexLikeRock | no, i go to eat |
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| 01:36.35 | AlexLikeRock | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:36.47 | AlexLikeRock | other day i will try again |
| 02:00.49 | Schoumi | KatolaZ: http://paste.alacon.org/44689 |
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| 02:04.02 | Schoumi | KatolaZ: http://paste.alacon.org/44690 <-- result of apt-file update and apt-file search glxinfo |
| 02:06.48 | Schoumi | perform apt update before this don't do anything more |
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| 06:39.32 | obeardly | For what it's worth, I finally got Devuan installed on my new laptop.(Dell XPS 15 9560) Still working on getting the wireless functional, but everything else seems good to go. |
| 06:40.21 | KatolaZ | great obeardly |
| 06:40.23 | KatolaZ | congrats |
| 06:40.40 | obeardly | Thanks. |
| 06:40.43 | KatolaZ | :) |
| 06:40.56 | KatolaZ | let me know when you are ready with the mirror thing |
| 06:42.11 | obeardly | Got the hardware I needed yesterday. It's put together, but I haven't booted it yet. Was planning on doing in the AM at work. |
| 06:47.28 | obeardly | KatolaZ: It's almost 02:00. I gotta get some rack. Is tomorrow okay for that server? If you need it now, I'll get it up tonight? |
| 06:49.00 | KatolaZ | obeardly: go to sleep mate |
| 06:49.09 | KatolaZ | I didn't mean "now" :D |
| 06:49.13 | obeardly | No worries. |
| 06:49.18 | KatolaZ | ;) |
| 06:49.28 | obeardly | If I didn't have to order hardware it would have been up yesterday. |
| 06:49.36 | obeardly | But I needed hard drive brackets. |
| 06:49.56 | KatolaZ | obeardly: no rush |
| 06:50.00 | obeardly | How much disk space? Will 600GB be enough? |
| 06:50.07 | KatolaZ | yep |
| 06:50.13 | KatolaZ | more than enough atm |
| 06:50.24 | KatolaZ | the mirror will take about 10GB atm |
| 06:50.29 | obeardly | It's 600GB on Velociraptor 10K SATA in a RAID10 |
| 06:50.30 | KatolaZ | will grow in the future |
| 06:50.34 | KatolaZ | wowowow |
| 06:50.35 | KatolaZ | :D |
| 06:51.00 | obeardly | The problem was I physically ran out of room for more disk. |
| 06:51.44 | KatolaZ | ehehehe |
| 06:52.07 | obeardly | But I've got 4x300GB WD Velociraptors running on an Areca 5030 hardware RAID in RAID10. |
| 06:52.14 | obeardly | It should make a nice mirror. |
| 06:52.40 | chillfan | nice |
| 06:53.55 | obeardly | It's only a quad-core AMD Phenom with 8GB RAM. I hope that's enough. |
| 06:54.11 | obeardly | The original amprolla server has 16GB RAM. |
| 06:55.19 | golinux | obeardly: Did you use the refracta-nox to istall? |
| 06:55.26 | golinux | install |
| 06:55.39 | obeardly | Nope, used a standard Devuan UEFI ISO. |
| 06:56.16 | golinux | So you figured out why is wasn't seeing the drive |
| 06:56.16 | obeardly | Had to get into the shell during install, chroot into the enviroment, manually install GRUB on the disk, then go into the BIOS and manually add an EFI record, and then all was good. |
| 06:56.40 | obeardly | Nope. |
| 06:56.55 | golinux | It shall remain a mystery. |
| 06:56.57 | obeardly | I just downloaded the most recent UEFI ISO |
| 06:57.25 | golinux | Cool |
| 06:57.51 | obeardly | Now if I could just my wireless working on it, it would be perfect. |
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| 07:00.06 | KatolaZ | obeardly: mirrors need bandwidth more than RAM |
| 07:00.47 | obeardly | Well, my data center has two 50Mbps fiber connections, dual-homed for redundancy, one through ATT, one through WOW. |
| 07:01.01 | obeardly | That's 50Mbps full-duplex. |
| 07:01.09 | KatolaZ | should be enough :) |
| 07:01.34 | KatolaZ | most of the mirrors have between 50Mb/s and 1GB/s |
| 07:02.06 | obeardly | Are they over dedicated fiber? |
| 07:04.50 | obeardly | We needed redundancy and stability more than speed. We could have done 1Gbps metro-ethernet for about the same price, but it wouldn't have been near as stable. |
| 07:05.24 | KatolaZ | obeardly: varying mileage |
| 07:05.34 | KatolaZ | some of them are uni mirrors |
| 07:05.45 | KatolaZ | some other are providers |
| 07:05.47 | obeardly | That's a nice land |
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| 07:47.55 | obeardly | What is evbug and why is it spamming my syslog? |
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| 10:55.35 | l41f3n | Hello |
| 10:55.47 | l41f3n | I have theses repo on my devuan jessie |
| 10:56.02 | l41f3n | # deb http://de.mirror.devuan.org/merged/ jessie main |
| 10:56.05 | l41f3n | deb http://de.mirror.devuan.org/merged/ jessie main |
| 10:56.06 | l41f3n | deb-src http://de.mirror.devuan.org/merged/ jessie main |
| 10:56.09 | l41f3n | # jessie-security, previously known as 'volatile' |
| 10:56.11 | l41f3n | deb http://de.mirror.devuan.org/merged/ jessie-security main |
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| 11:26.48 | coyote | hello |
| 11:27.28 | coyote | you should use deb and deb-src repos in pairs |
| 11:28.00 | coyote | but it's not necessarily |
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| 11:31.56 | bluemarlin | coyote: i think he didn't finish the question - got marked as spam and kicked |
| 11:37.16 | FoxMuldV6 | yeah it seems the only ones freenode doesn't kill nowadays are real spammers - but they kill plenty of normal users. |
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| 13:08.28 | ryuujin | FoxMuldV6: just paste a punch of urls and yout flagged as spam by freenode |
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| 13:14.59 | MinceR | should have used a pastebin |
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| 13:33.33 | FoxMuldV6 | he should have, yes, but that newbie-mistake certainly isn't enough to warrant an automatic kill. |
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| 20:08.50 | fugitive | hey ppl. Can someone advice how to burn Winblow$ iso on thumb drive? Can it be burned via dd? |
| 20:12.56 | fsmithred | I've seen instructions for making a windows install usb. Google around and you'll find it. You do not use dd. |
| 20:14.48 | unixman | https://serverfault.com/questions/6714/how-to-make-windows-7-usb-flash-install-media-from-linux |
| 20:17.44 | fugitive | thanks unixman |
| 20:19.16 | unixman | You're welcome. |
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| 20:56.54 | Criggie | bluemarlin: yeah he posted too many http:// links in a row |
| 20:57.51 | Criggie | obeardly: velociraptor? Thats a name I've not heard for a long time. |
| 20:58.09 | Criggie | Shame they didn't call the SSD line velociraptor too |
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| 22:39.31 | zomaar | Been reading some slackdot and the register, I am surprised by much more 'sane' (from my perspective) attitudes about systemd than I expected from my linux experience |
| 22:39.59 | zomaar | Ie. I mean that most people actually do not have very positive attitudes about systemd. |
| 22:40.44 | zomaar | When you only hop around in the Debian/Ubuntu crowds it appears to be the resverse |
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| 22:42.50 | zomaar | One person mentioned on Ubuntu Xenial using the recovery mode and having Systemd pipe in with the emergy mode at the same time, rendering the entire thing completely unusable, which is my experience exactly. |
| 22:43.27 | zomaar | (Just happy to not be crazy here) |
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| 22:45.32 | zomaar | I mentioned this on the Ubuntu user list and I remember everyone thinking I am an idiot for having a problem with a dysfunctional recovery mode. |
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| 23:32.18 | Pixelz | probably because it was written for kids with laptops who don't do anything other than install ubuntu and use the web browser |
| 23:32.26 | Pixelz | obviously the init isn't gonna matter one bit to them |
| 23:33.48 | msiism | pwd is a shell builtin. so why is there /bin/pwd? |
| 23:34.05 | msiism | there's no /bin/cd, for example. |
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| 23:38.52 | Pixelz | /bin/pwd is a separate thing |
| 23:38.55 | Pixelz | not part of the shell |
| 23:42.17 | msiism | Pixelz: right. but why is it needed and what is being executed when i run `pwd` in bash? |
| 23:43.19 | Pixelz | afaik, /bin/pwd just calls getcwd() |
| 23:43.34 | Pixelz | so it's what the shell initially uses to figure out which working dir it's in |
| 23:43.52 | Pixelz | after that it keeps track on which directory you're in as you move around |
| 23:45.02 | msiism | ok, i'll test that |
| 23:45.49 | msiism | ok, i probably understodd that wrong |
| 23:46.30 | msiism | you weren't implying that the output of /bin/pwd and pwd of a perticular shell would fiffer if you cd into another directory, right? |
| 23:46.43 | msiism | differ... |
| 23:47.29 | Pixelz | no |
| 23:47.55 | Pixelz | when the shell launches, or any program, it doesn't know which working directory it's in |
| 23:48.02 | Pixelz | so there's a system call that tells you |
| 23:48.18 | Pixelz | and /bin/pwd just does the same thing |
| 23:49.31 | Pixelz | at least that's my understanding of it |
| 23:50.33 | Pixelz | of course, what we would really need is a more modern way of doing this |
| 23:50.41 | Pixelz | something like, say, systemd-getpwdd |
| 23:52.54 | msiism | Pixelz: ok, i see. |
| 23:52.54 | msiism | but why would we need a more modern way? |
| 23:53.35 | Pixelz | that part was sarcasm :p |
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