00:05.39 | merzbow | okay, this makes way more sense... thank you again *bows* |
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05:54.53 | detha | :1 |
05:55.01 | detha | sorry, wrong window |
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09:48.29 | Wizzup | Are there ascii rc/beta images yet? |
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10:08.53 | Criggie | Wizzup: don't think so - you can install jessie and then edit /etc/apt/sources, replace all jessie with ascii then do an apt update && apt-get dist-upgrade |
10:09.01 | Criggie | functionally the same |
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10:09.44 | Wizzup | freemangordon: ^^ |
10:10.41 | freemangordon | yeah |
10:21.34 | Criggie | I am very slightly tempted to upgrade my ancient debian server... it started as slink and has been dist-upgraded since 2001. All the hardware has been swapped out over time. |
10:21.48 | Criggie | I think it started as a P75 |
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13:24.40 | Veyrdite | How active is the Devuan community? |
13:24.56 | Veyrdite | Is there a dominant time zone? America or Europe? |
13:32.46 | debdog | yes |
13:35.40 | Veyrdite | Both? |
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14:34.57 | Digit | hi. twice i've upgraded now, expecting to see a kernel that looks like it has a number that's said to be patched for meltddown n spectre, but doesnt look like it yet. or am in in error, n the kernel i've gotten from ceres is good now? |
14:35.48 | Digit | this doesnt look right, does it?: 4.14.0-1-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 4.14.2-1 (2017-11-30) x86_64 GNU/Linux |
14:39.44 | fsmithred | no, 11-30 is too old |
14:40.56 | Digit | running full-upgrade, n sees kernel image is included |
14:41.09 | Digit | does apt-get upgrade not do the kernel? |
14:41.21 | fsmithred | I can't even find those versions |
14:41.35 | fsmithred | if you have the kernel metapackage installed, you'll get the newest available |
14:41.42 | fsmithred | if no,you have to specify |
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14:42.55 | fsmithred | linux-image-4.14.0-3-amd64 is the package name you want |
14:43.19 | fsmithred | 4.14.12-2 is the actual kernel version (uname -a to see it) |
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14:44.43 | Digit | i see in my /etc/apt/sources.list i have unstable-security/volatile commented out, and ceres added in. i wonder if that had impact on it. |
14:45.00 | fsmithred | https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/source-package/linux |
14:45.17 | fsmithred | no, there is no ceres-security |
14:45.24 | fsmithred | the package is in ceres |
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15:00.58 | Digit | well, looks like this should be it, after doing apt full-upgrade, rather than apt-get upgrade. * rebooting ~ bbialb * |
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15:17.03 | Digit | :) 4.14.0-3-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 4.14.12-2 (2018-01-06) x86_64 GNU/Linux much better. thnx for the pointers. did realise i manage my grub from a bedrocklinux-hijacked gentoo. i'll need to look into updating it through chroot if i wanna avoid convoluted rebooting n rebooting to upgrade bootloader. :) all is well now. :) |
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20:11.46 | _abc_ | lol https://linux.slashdot.org/story/17/12/11/0049245/does-systemd-makes-linux-complex-error-prone-and-unstable?sdsrc=popbyskid |
20:16.04 | DocScrutinizer05 | answer: yes, absolutely |
20:16.35 | _abc_ | Anyway, interesting answers as usual |
20:16.57 | DocScrutinizer05 | is it even worth checking which answer slashdot found? |
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20:18.01 | _abc_ | https://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=11463149&cid=55713823 quite pertinent comment... |
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20:26.07 | _abc_ | is this guy on here? If not, invite him? https://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=11463149&cid=55714053 |
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20:34.02 | golinux | _abc_: Thanks for that second link. |
20:36.47 | fsmithred | yes, he's already with us |
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20:39.42 | _abc_ | re: https://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=11463149&cid=55713823 -- I do not agree with "-Bolt simple paralellization..." |
20:40.34 | _abc_ | one reason: https://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=11463149&cid=55713891 |
20:41.14 | _abc_ | booting machines is not a speed contest, if someone really needs to boot at lightning speed, simply implement sleep to disk and restore the ram image as is, restore hw registers, re-enter running system |
20:41.46 | _abc_ | because of the idiotic way systemd waits on network on booting, non systemd devuan etc already beat it there. |
20:42.23 | _abc_ | Very similar things happen to old machines with low ram (my case!) |
20:42.47 | _abc_ | On the bright side, they are so old, sledgehammer et al do not affect me. yay. |
20:42.50 | _abc_ | ;( |
20:43.42 | Digit | gets sledgehammer tune (and video) in his head, from merely reading the word "sledgehammer" |
20:44.52 | _abc_ | Digit: ye shall not diss the best repair tools in existence http://www.juniper.mx/juniper-repair-kit/ |
20:46.26 | Digit | had not drempt of it. was just lost in peter gabriel nostalgic reverie. Playing: ytdl://OJWJE0x7T4Q (without pausing latenightlinux podcast n_n) |
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20:47.19 | _abc_ | And I did mean spectre, not sledgehammer, as any astute observer would have noticed. |
20:48.07 | AlexLikeRock | what port need open command "mail" to send mail by PHP ? |
20:48.17 | _abc_ | uhh |
20:48.39 | _abc_ | php can send mail usually to a mta at port 25 of some server |
20:48.53 | AlexLikeRock | tanks |
20:48.57 | _abc_ | AlexLikeRock: rephrase: you run some php process and it needs to send email? |
20:49.36 | _abc_ | AlexLikeRock ? :/ |
20:50.30 | AlexLikeRock | yes |
20:52.01 | _abc_ | okay, there are 2 different ways: a) there is a mta running on the system where the php process runs, in this case, email is sent locally to the server using a command like 'mail' b) there is a mta on some server elsewhere, in which case you send mail ... |
20:52.05 | _abc_ | ... with php using some other command than 'mail' |
20:53.21 | _abc_ | the other command can be 'ssmtp' for example |
20:54.12 | _abc_ | note that using things like ssmtp for authenticating servers can be hard to configure |
20:54.35 | _abc_ | but less hard than running exim just for this |
20:55.03 | AlexLikeRock | i like a) |
20:55.51 | AlexLikeRock | _abc_, |
20:55.53 | _abc_ | I just told you a) has problems. Big ones. |
20:56.07 | AlexLikeRock | i wan take all control |
20:56.08 | _abc_ | to send with ssmtp it's much easyer |
20:56.12 | _abc_ | MUCH easyer |
20:56.13 | AlexLikeRock | a) |
20:56.20 | _abc_ | b! b! |
20:56.22 | AlexLikeRock | :-> |
20:57.09 | _abc_ | Keeping exim properly configured and secure is really hard. I know, I maintain something like this on and off. It takes 2 weeks until the spammers get through again. |
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20:59.39 | AlexLikeRock | A) |
20:59.43 | AlexLikeRock | :> |
20:59.48 | _abc_ | https://www.nixtutor.com/linux/send-mail-with-gmail-and-ssmtp/ B) |
21:02.54 | _abc_ | http://www.binarytides.com/linux-mail-with-smtp/ other ways, all B) :) |
21:05.40 | Criggie | ssmtp rocks - it just does one simple thing and does it well. |
21:11.21 | KatolaZ | msmtp is even more simple |
21:11.40 | Criggie | never heard of it - how can it be more simple than ssmtp ? |
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21:42.41 | AlexLikeRock | i want to learn |
21:42.55 | AlexLikeRock | i dont want easy way |
21:42.59 | AlexLikeRock | a) please |
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21:45.13 | Criggie | AlexLikeRock: eh? sorry I missed your question. |
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21:52.10 | KatolaZ | Criggie: no server |
21:52.17 | KatolaZ | only the msmtp executable |
21:52.24 | KatolaZ | with the same interface as sendmail |
21:52.50 | AlexLikeRock | i have server |
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21:53.46 | KatolaZ | AlexLikeRock: ? |
21:53.55 | Criggie | KatolaZ: oh okay - msmtp seems slightly more complex than ssmtp to me. |
21:54.01 | KatolaZ | :D |
21:54.17 | Criggie | AlexLikeRock is saying that he has a physical server, and wants to send emails from a PHP process |
21:54.35 | Criggie | AlexLikeRock: does your ISP provide an email relay for your use? |
21:54.41 | gnarface | php just calls /usr/bin/sendmail |
21:54.52 | KatolaZ | Criggie: php uses sendmail |
21:54.54 | KatolaZ | namely |
21:55.02 | KatolaZ | :) |
21:55.16 | KatolaZ | you don't need to have a server for that |
21:55.22 | gnarface | sending shouldn't be the problem, you should be able to configure php to send mail without the threat of also handling inbound mail. getting commercial email hosts to accept email generated this way is another story though... |
21:56.01 | gnarface | if it's just system message relays between your own machines though it's not really a problem |
21:56.45 | Criggie | AlexLikeRock: do you need to send emails to people through the internet ? |
21:57.22 | KatolaZ | Criggie: what is the difference? |
21:57.33 | KatolaZ | I mean, LAN or internet, the protocol is the same |
21:58.43 | gnarface | like i said, the primary difference is in getting other people's servers to actually accept your spam |
21:59.01 | gnarface | usually that's more of a DNS trick though |
21:59.48 | gnarface | threat level is only different if you have to also receive the mail, or if you're forwarding/sending mail at user's requests |
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22:04.15 | AlexLikeRock | Criggie, yes , |
22:12.57 | KatolaZ | Criggie: consider that ssmtp looks to be unmaintained |
22:13.04 | KatolaZ | also the Arch page suggeste to use msmtp instead |
22:13.12 | KatolaZ | which is pretty similar in terms of features |
22:13.18 | KatolaZ | https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/SSMTP |
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23:17.51 | AlexLikeRock | :) reading... |
23:18.25 | AlexLikeRock | dhammmmm |
23:18.30 | AlexLikeRock | gmail , no way |
23:19.30 | AlexLikeRock | Gmail has recently started blocking emails from senders that do not authenticate using OAuth |
23:19.32 | AlexLikeRock | ,mmmmmm |
23:30.06 | jelly | AlexLikeRock: so previously working app-specific passwords do not work for smtp auth any more? |
23:36.56 | Schoumi | Hum weird, apt-file update make an apt update |
23:37.18 | Schoumi | instead of updating apt-file cache |
23:53.43 | KatolaZ | Schoumi: ?!? |
23:57.18 | KatolaZ | Schoumi: apt-file update is an alias to apt update IIRC |
23:57.50 | KatolaZ | apt-file cannot properly update the Contents.gz files without an apt-get update |
23:58.28 | KatolaZ | hence, I guess apt-file update just performs an "apt-get update" or "apt-update" |