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| 01:16.53 | Criggie | jota: why are you still running a P4 ? |
| 01:17.02 | Criggie | the power savings alone would pay for a better machine. |
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| 01:20.22 | *** topic/#devuan is Recent (2017-05-25): Jessie 1.0.0 stable release http://ur1.ca/qxaa5 || This is the Devuan https://devuan.org/ discussion channel (logged at https://botbot.me/freenode/devuan - with useful 'search') | Please take off-topic conversation to #debianfork | /msg chanserv info #devuan | !listkeys #devuan <foo> | Devuan Forum: https://dev1galaxy.org/ |
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| 01:37.49 | Criggie | I fixed anyconnect (cisco vpn client used for remoting into a cisco ASA) |
| 01:38.40 | Criggie | turns out it was fine, but I'd forgotten that I used dnsmasq to do the resolution locally, and disallowed the VPN software permission to rewrite /etc/resolv.conf which was unhelpful. |
| 01:39.11 | Criggie | chattr +i /etc/resolv.conf barred any changes - cos it runs as root, it was still changing the resolver config. |
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| 08:22.28 | aynah[m] | sent a long message: aynah[m]_2018-01-13_08:22:28.txt <https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/v1/download/matrix.org/QNLlUITOoGWWOwhLsYsYlThq> |
| 08:23.32 | aynah[m] | sent a long message: aynah[m]_2018-01-13_08:23:31.txt <https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/v1/download/matrix.org/wOZcCskqLgAmIsYhmRvThCsq> |
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| 08:27.46 | KatolaZ | aynah[m]: did you apt-get update after adding i36? |
| 08:27.50 | KatolaZ | i386 |
| 08:29.03 | aynah[m] | I think so, yes. |
| 08:29.54 | aynah[m] | could I have installed i386 packages without that? if no, then I did. I don't remember. |
| 08:30.46 | KatolaZ | aynah[m]: you must remove and purge all i386 pkgs before removing the arch |
| 08:31.15 | KatolaZ | bbl |
| 08:32.05 | aynah[m] | How do I confirm that all the packages have been purged? |
| 08:32.05 | aynah[m] | if `apt list --installed | grep i386` returns nothing, is that a good indicator? |
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| 08:37.59 | aynah[m] | Okay, I did `sudo apt-get purge *:i386` and it hunted and purged some i386 packages not listed by `apt list --installed` |
| 08:39.27 | aynah[m] | I no longer get tab autocompletion when installing packages from apt-get. |
| 08:39.38 | coyote | i would remove so: apt-get purge `dpkg --get-selections | egrep .+:i386 | cut -f1` |
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| 08:40.00 | coyote | i think it does same |
| 08:40.57 | aynah[m] | Thanks. |
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| 08:41.48 | coyote | you want to remove multilib, i understood? |
| 08:43.12 | aynah[m] | I don't know what multilib is. No. I wanted to remove i386 architecture, which I enabled to run a 32 bit binary. |
| 08:43.51 | coyote | also do this: sudo dpkg --remove-architecture i386 |
| 08:44.01 | coyote | it removes i386 packages installing |
| 08:44.04 | aynah[m] | Yeah, I did that. Thanks. |
| 08:46.15 | amarsh04 | brb, new kernel |
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| 11:24.02 | aitor | hi |
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| 11:33.38 | Guest38505 | is taking a coffee |
| 11:34.07 | Guest38505 | parazyd, are you there? |
| 11:34.34 | Guest38505 | is asking for parazyd |
| 11:39.30 | Guest38505 | wants to change his nickname |
| 11:44.52 | Guest38505 | i've some issues in simple-netaid-gtk on jessie: |
| 11:45.03 | Guest38505 | from /home/aitor/SIMPLE-NETAID-GTK/simple-netaid-gtk/src/mysingleton.cpp:19: |
| 11:45.22 | Guest38505 | usr/include/c++/4.9/bits/c++0x_warning.h:32:2: error: #error This file requires compiler and library support for the ISO C++ 2011 standard. This support is currently experimental, and must be enabled with the -std=c++11 or -std=gnu++11 compiler options. |
| 11:46.31 | Guest38505 | but -std=gnu++11 is included in the CMakeLists.txt: |
| 11:46.43 | Guest38505 | set(CMAKE_CXX_FLAGS "-Wall -g -o -Wc++0x-compat -std=gnu++11 -lpthread -I../include" ) |
| 11:46.56 | Guest38505 | set(CMAKE_CXX_FLAGS_DEBUG "-Wall -g -o -Wc++0x-compat -std=gnu++11 -lpthread -I../include" ) |
| 11:47.24 | Guest38505 | i also get the following errors: |
| 11:47.33 | Guest38505 | error: âthreadâ in namespace âstdâ does not name a type std::thread *m_WorkerThread; |
| 11:47.43 | Guest38505 | error: âmutexâ in namespace âstdâ does not name a type mutable std::mutex m_Mutex; |
| 11:48.03 | Guest38505 | seems to be related with the version of g++ |
| 11:51.10 | Guest38505 | [cut] |
| 11:51.45 | Guest38505 | i'm doing some improvements in the popupmenu, and the packages will be availabe today |
| 11:51.52 | Guest38505 | available* |
| 11:54.48 | Guest38505 | it works both in jessie and ascii using a WM, but it fails in a DE getting a pointer error even disabling the XDG_MENU_PREFIX system variable: |
| 11:54.50 | Guest38505 | g_unsetenv("XDG_MENU_PREFIX"); |
| 11:56.28 | Guest38505 | it has been tested in openbox; i downloaded "heads" with awesome, but still didn't test the popupmenu there |
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| 11:58.51 | Guest38505 | it uses the menu-cached daemon: |
| 11:59.12 | Guest38505 | libmenu-cache: https://github.com/lxde/menu-cache |
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| 12:03.41 | Guest38505 | will be back shortly |
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| 12:04.18 | Guest38505 | will translate to spanish devuan.org at the request of chillfan |
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| 17:16.42 | golinux | Guest38505 [06:02:25] will translate to spanish devuan.org at the request of chillfan |
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| 17:18.31 | golinux | I think he means for you to translate the install guide on devuan.org, not devuan.org itself. |
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| 17:38.18 | aitor | golinux: ok |
| 17:38.39 | Guest72004 | he explains it in the wiki: *Translations we already have need to be improved/updated before being pushed to www.devuan.org. But there are some new additions to the wiki that could use translations as well.* |
| 17:38.51 | Guest72004 | https://git.devuan.org/dev1fanboy/Upgrade-Install-Devuan/wikis/contributing-translations |
| 17:39.55 | Guest72004 | i'll begin translating the mentioned pages |
| 17:44.17 | msiism | Guest72004: and these are? |
| 17:49.45 | Guest72004 | msiism: i translated one of them in the past |
| 17:49.59 | Guest72004 | and Linuxito too (Emiliano Marini) |
| 17:50.54 | msiism | Guest72004: nice. i just didn't really get what you ware going to work on. |
| 17:53.39 | Guest72004 | i was also working on the transation of the little purpy book of devuan, but currently these translations are not available in gnuinos.org due to some upgrades in the server |
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| 17:54.26 | Guest72004 | some changes are needed in the htaccess file |
| 17:54.32 | msiism | Guest72004: ok. |
| 17:56.14 | msiism | Guest72004: ok, and what exactly are you going to be working on now? |
| 17:56.27 | Guest72004 | the content still is there, as i explained to chillfan in #devuan-dev, but my hosting provider did some changes in the system and the whole gnuinos.org was not available |
| 17:56.37 | Guest72004 | so, i changed the htaccess |
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| 17:57.04 | msiism | Guest72004: so you're the one releasing gnunios? |
| 17:57.21 | Guest72004 | yes |
| 17:57.29 | msiism | great. |
| 17:59.43 | Guest72004 | it'll be released in a few days, but i'm also working on ascii at the same time |
| 18:02.03 | Guest72004 | indeed, the blend of gnuinos for the live-sdk works in ascii, including debian installer |
| 18:04.23 | msiism | nice |
| 18:08.42 | Guest72004 | a patch in the kernel of debian is needed if you want to use a custom one in the live-sdk, in order to avoid the message *Abort removing the running kernel* |
| 18:09.08 | Guest72004 | something like: |
| 18:09.19 | Guest72004 | if [ -z "$(ps)" ] > /dev/null |
| 18:09.27 | Guest72004 | then continue |
| 18:09.39 | Guest72004 | else |
| 18:10.47 | Guest72004 | avoid to remove the running kernel, because we are not in a chroot jail |
| 18:12.06 | Guest72004 | as i explained in this channel, no running proccess is detected within the live-sdk |
| 18:12.55 | Guest72004 | i used this trick for the installation of simple-netaid and vdev |
| 18:14.28 | Guest72004 | simple-netaid asks some questions to the user during its installation, but there is not any interacction between with the user; so, the installation of simple-netaid is skipped |
| 18:15.30 | Guest72004 | so, i did the following change: |
| 18:15.49 | Guest72004 | if [ -z "$(ps)" ] > /dev/null |
| 18:15.53 | Guest72004 | then continue |
| 18:15.55 | Guest72004 | else |
| 18:16.02 | Guest72004 | do the questions to the user |
| 18:16.42 | Guest72004 | something similiar happens in the case of vdev |
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| 18:18.24 | Guest72004 | for security reasons i added a script named vdev-assistant in such a manner that you can only install vdev via "vdev-assistant" |
| 18:20.19 | Guest72004 | that is: |
| 18:20.21 | Guest72004 | if pgrep -x "vdev-assistant" |
| 18:20.32 | Guest72004 | then continue with the installation of vdev |
| 18:20.36 | Guest72004 | else |
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| 18:20.55 | Guest72004 | *** Warning !! *** |
| 18:21.05 | Guest72004 | For security reasons, vdev only can be installed using the vdev-assistant tool. |
| 18:21.16 | Guest72004 | Please, install this package and follow the instructions. |
| 18:22.02 | Guest72004 | Oooh!!! But the vdev-assistant running procces is not detected within the live-sdk!!! |
| 18:22.25 | msiism | i don't quite follow, but i'm sure others so. |
| 18:22.30 | msiism | so -> do |
| 18:22.34 | Guest72004 | so, we need to change: |
| 18:22.42 | Guest72004 | if pgrep -x "vdev-assistant" > /dev/null |
| 18:22.45 | Guest72004 | by: |
| 18:22.46 | Guest72004 | if pgrep -x "vdev-assistant" || [ -z "$(ps)" ] > /dev/null |
| 18:23.04 | Guest72004 | that is: |
| 18:23.48 | Guest72004 | if vdev-assistant is running OR no proccess is running, then continue |
| 18:24.53 | Guest72004 | need to go, see you :) |
| 18:25.11 | enyc | /w ha |
| 18:25.12 | enyc | oops |
| 18:26.12 | Guest72004 | quote: i needed the vdev-assistant script in jessie because there was no udev dummy package |
| 18:26.24 | Guest72004 | dev1devs added it in ascii :) |
| 18:27.05 | Guest72004 | golinux: here you are my translation of the whole devuan.org... |
| 18:27.14 | Guest72004 | devJuan.org |
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| 18:30.51 | golinux | Guest72004: that is a duplication of http://devuan-mx.org/ |
| 18:31.47 | golinux | I find devJuan quite confusing. |
| 18:33.41 | golinux | Besides it doesn't even work here at all. |
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| 19:55.08 | _abc_ | Hello. People here now? I have some trouble writing devuan_jessie_1.0.0_amd64_DVD.iso to disk, the sha256 checked out (from the site I got it, .it mirror) |
| 19:55.28 | _abc_ | The image I got is non EFI apparently. Yet the hybrid image shows an EFI partition. |
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| 19:56.05 | _abc_ | When mounting the 1st partition (devuan) on the host I wrote it on, I see README.txt and README.html are both binary files. Is this the way it should be? |
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| 19:56.58 | _abc_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:57.25 | _abc_ | I assume something is amiss with my write to usb stick. The partition tables were generated in the right place, so I assume that is right, at least. |
| 19:57.58 | _abc_ | Yeah so all files are garbled somehow |
| 19:59.23 | _abc_ | Is this some codepage thing? I mount on a linux system, it auto mounts as iso9660, no special options, ro |
| 20:01.46 | gnarface | does it fail to boot then? |
| 20:01.57 | gnarface | i haven't tested that image, but the NETINST one should work |
| 20:02.03 | _abc_ | I have no way to try that here and now, this is on another machine, prepping media for install later Monday |
| 20:02.31 | _abc_ | This is about verifying the written image. Does one normally mount it and see text files in it etc? I used to do that and it worked. |
| 20:02.41 | unixman_home | What exact command did you use to write to the USB? |
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| 20:03.00 | _abc_ | dd if=theimage.iso of=/dev/sdc bs=8M |
| 20:03.04 | _abc_ | && sync |
| 20:03.20 | gnarface | _abc_: it could be a codepage thing. hard to say |
| 20:03.30 | _abc_ | The directory structure looks fine, the file contents are garbage |
| 20:03.39 | _abc_ | If it is a codepage issue, which codepage would that be? |
| 20:04.04 | gnarface | most likely iso8859-1, or utf-9 |
| 20:04.07 | gnarface | i mean utf8 |
| 20:04.27 | _abc_ | Would the codepage not also mess up boot operation? |
| 20:04.50 | _abc_ | Also the EFI, why is it there? I intend to use this on non EFI, will it boot normally on non EFI bios? |
| 20:04.57 | nepugia | UTF-32 |
| 20:04.59 | gnarface | presumably it has it's own, but maybe windows does not |
| 20:05.11 | _abc_ | there is no windows involved |
| 20:05.13 | nepugia | EFI partition doesnt hurt aslong as it also has the mbr specific stuff afaik |
| 20:05.19 | _abc_ | nepugia: ok |
| 20:05.23 | unixman_home | Hrm, last time I wrote one I just used 'dd if=the.iso of=/dev/(SOMEUSB)'. Did seem to work fine. |
| 20:05.26 | _abc_ | nepugia: UTF-32 is for real? |
| 20:05.34 | _abc_ | bs=xx helps with speed a bit |
| 20:05.42 | _abc_ | otherwise no changes |
| 20:05.46 | _abc_ | and yet... |
| 20:06.01 | nepugia | _abc_ it is a real encoding, i doubt it was used though :p |
| 20:06.32 | _abc_ | UTF-8 covers ascii 7 bit so most simple things like autorun.inf etc should be readable |
| 20:06.53 | _abc_ | I verified that the 1st 256MB of the image and of the written usb stick are identical. |
| 20:07.10 | _abc_ | So the root dir should be in it, and the 1st files. And the sha256sum matched |
| 20:07.20 | chillfan | remember also to use after dd: sync |
| 20:07.33 | _abc_ | Any ideas where to look? Could anyone loop mount the iso and see what it looks like there? |
| 20:08.22 | _abc_ | hm? |
| 20:08.34 | chillfan | sync flushes buffers to disks |
| 20:08.50 | gnarface | how did you verify the text files were corrupted, _abc_? |
| 20:08.52 | unixman_home | chillfan, [20180113 11:03:04] <_abc_> && sync |
| 20:09.14 | chillfan | yea, sync will make sure the disk has been written to OK |
| 20:09.46 | _abc_ | chillfan: I did && sync |
| 20:09.58 | rodney_ | thanks to the devs .. installed duvean on a laptop that ubuntu would LOCK up using virtualbox. running like a champ and no SystemD |
| 20:10.00 | _abc_ | gnarface: open with less/vi/etc |
| 20:10.17 | chillfan | ok |
| 20:10.37 | nepugia | what does sync do? |
| 20:10.50 | chillfan | sync (1) - Synchronize cached writes to persistent storage |
| 20:11.42 | _abc_ | I have no idea where to look |
| 20:12.27 | _abc_ | Will check the sha256sum from another site, unlikely it is different |
| 20:12.52 | _abc_ | can someone please mount their .iso image with loop and look in the mounted /md5sums.txt for example with vi? |
| 20:13.12 | _abc_ | Just for sanity I tried -o remount,iocharset=utf8 did not help |
| 20:15.14 | gnarface | your system has utf8 support setup already, right? |
| 20:15.25 | gnarface | i really assumed they were latin1 though |
| 20:16.08 | fsmithred | that file looks fine to me |
| 20:18.15 | gnarface | _abc_: what error did you get, exactly when opening them? did vi complain about it being a binary file, or did it just look like some characters were wrong? |
| 20:20.55 | _abc_ | gnarface: no error, file contents are binary instead of text |
| 20:21.14 | _abc_ | just a few discernible characters, looks more like a virus heh |
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| 20:21.20 | _abc_ | re-checking sha256 etc |
| 20:21.55 | gnarface | maybe the copy just didn't complete because you forgot to sync afterwards. i think they changed something in the kernel so even dd is subject to writeback caching |
| 20:22.18 | _abc_ | Dude. |
| 20:22.45 | gnarface | well it's happened to me before |
| 20:22.58 | chillfan | Did you verify the sha256 sums with the signing key from files.devuan.org? If it passes it will eliminate problems with the iso at least |
| 20:26.38 | gnarface | _abc_: any chance for a screenshot? |
| 20:27.29 | gnarface | the description of your problem can also fit a common video ram failure case |
| 20:27.38 | _abc_ | gnarface: I can pastebin them after re-writing them. Just a few minutes |
| 20:27.43 | _abc_ | gnarface: unlikely |
| 20:28.19 | gnarface | typically you'd see other corrupted text glyphs and textures in other places, but where exactly depends on many factors. |
| 20:28.30 | gnarface | sometimes it's non-obvious |
| 20:29.05 | _abc_ | The sha256sums on https://files.devuan.org/devuan_jessie/installer-iso/ match the images I have |
| 20:29.37 | _abc_ | in addition to the sha256sums matching the sha256sums file on the d/l mirror which is https://devuan.4isp.it/ in this case |
| 20:29.54 | fsmithred | also matches what I get here |
| 20:30.04 | _abc_ | gnarface: the answer is no. I am runnng old kde konsole and there are no other problems |
| 20:30.08 | fsmithred | on an iso that's been on my hard drive since May |
| 20:30.14 | _abc_ | fsmithred: thanks |
| 20:30.34 | _abc_ | fsmithred: what happens if you loop mount the 1st partition and look inside as it is default mounted on linux? |
| 20:30.40 | gnarface | fsmithred: so, he thinks the README.txt and README.html on devuan_jessie_1.0.0_amd64_DVD.iso are both corrupted, but not the rest of the image itself, necessarily. you've verified those two files specifically, the copies on the DVD iso, right? (i don't have a copy downloaded here) |
| 20:31.24 | fsmithred | oh, I only looked at the md5sums.txt |
| 20:31.26 | fsmithred | hang on a sec |
| 20:31.45 | gnarface | if they're actually wrong on the DVD iso, that would explain this. but not much else can. |
| 20:31.54 | _abc_ | well if you can read md5sums.txt in the loop mounted image then there's soemthing amiss here. Which is very likely |
| 20:32.44 | _abc_ | I bounght a new hama usb stick for this devuan project today, it might suck a bit. I will test it more. |
| 20:33.04 | _abc_ | mumbles unprintable stuff about virused usb sticks and the like |
| 20:33.21 | fsmithred | README.* are good, too |
| 20:33.25 | _abc_ | fsmithred: should the 1st partition have a windows autorun.exe etc? |
| 20:33.37 | gnarface | i've had some usb sticks object to using block size greater than 1MB |
| 20:33.51 | _abc_ | Okay, I will try some things here. fsmithred the auto mounted loop iso9660 has what options? |
| 20:34.01 | _abc_ | ro,nodev,nosuid ? |
| 20:34.05 | chillfan | right, so have a try with using bs=1M or bs=4M |
| 20:34.06 | fsmithred | huh? |
| 20:34.10 | fsmithred | way easier than that |
| 20:34.22 | _abc_ | I tried bs=8M before, did not go well |
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| 20:34.37 | _abc_ | fsmithred: what's the offset in the file of the 1st partition? I need to spec if to loop |
| 20:34.42 | fsmithred | mount devuan-1.0-final-amd64-DVD-1.iso spme-mountpoint |
| 20:34.53 | chillfan | Yeah so limit to 1 or 4 and see what happens |
| 20:34.54 | fsmithred | oh, you want to mount an image made from the usb? |
| 20:35.04 | _abc_ | fsmithred: my ancient install does not take that kind of thing, I need to specifiy manually |
| 20:35.19 | _abc_ | fsmithred: the iso . Just a sec |
| 20:35.20 | fsmithred | mount -o loop whatever.iso mountpoint |
| 20:35.27 | fsmithred | oh |
| 20:35.31 | chillfan | it's likely a blocksize thing, or the usb may be DOA but that's less likely |
| 20:35.40 | fsmithred | use -o loop,iso9660 |
| 20:35.55 | fsmithred | I think. Been a couple years since I've done that |
| 20:36.10 | gnarface | i haven't really noticed any speed benefit increasing block size on most cheap usb flash for writes anyway |
| 20:36.11 | chillfan | mount -t iso9660 -o loop <filename> <mountpoint> |
| 20:36.38 | fsmithred | thanks |
| 20:37.03 | fsmithred | _abc_, use chillfan's command |
| 20:37.03 | _abc_ | I confirm the mount on loop works fine, files are readable |
| 20:37.12 | _abc_ | mount from ub stick /dev/sdc1 causes the problems |
| 20:37.22 | fsmithred | is that the correct partition? |
| 20:37.35 | _abc_ | Yes. The /dev/sdc1 is devuan and /dev/sdc2 is EFI |
| 20:37.42 | _abc_ | I will not be using EFI |
| 20:37.50 | _abc_ | I think this new usb stick has some surprizes. |
| 20:38.02 | _abc_ | Will test it more with random data scripted tonight. |
| 20:38.03 | fsmithred | what kind of usb stick? |
| 20:38.15 | _abc_ | Sorry for the noise, this is not a devuan bug ;) |
| 20:38.32 | _abc_ | fsmithred: Hama 8GB blister pack cheap stick, 10MBps write |
| 20:38.51 | _abc_ | I bought it from a walk in reputable shop with warranty, and look what I got. |
| 20:39.00 | fsmithred | never heard of it. And that's how people say "hammer" around here. |
| 20:39.02 | _abc_ | We'll see I still have hope |
| 20:39.21 | gnarface | it might be fine. try bs=1M or bs=512, and remember to && sync && sync && sync |
| 20:39.21 | _abc_ | Hama is a well known accessories maker in Europe. |
| 20:39.38 | _abc_ | I am writing it without the bs= arg and with && sync |
| 20:39.39 | fsmithred | oh, ok. Other continent. |
| 20:39.47 | _abc_ | "Others". Run. |
| 20:39.54 | _abc_ | [Lost reference] :) |
| 20:39.54 | chillfan | I usually go with sandisk for cheap stuff, they are ok |
| 20:40.19 | _abc_ | Sandisk is horrible here, they bundle those strange secret partitions and stuff and it gave me no end of grief |
| 20:40.59 | chillfan | I'll have to look into that then |
| 20:41.06 | _abc_ | It does write QUITE slowly for a 10MBps advertised speed device |
| 20:41.11 | chillfan | just so I can trust my devices heh |
| 20:41.36 | _abc_ | I'm okay with that as long as it does not mod the data. dmesg shows no errors on write. |
| 20:42.48 | _abc_ | https://www.amazon.co.uk/Hama-Fancy-8GB-Pen-Drive-pendrive/dp/B00DB97FKK this is the exact product I have |
| 20:43.25 | _abc_ | can someone remind me where can one look to see data being written, blocks progress, with dd? |
| 20:43.58 | _abc_ | Note my device says 10MB/s on the back of the blister pack |
| 20:44.12 | gnarface | that's usually burst rate figures, irrelevant to dd |
| 20:44.20 | gnarface | also usually they assume fat32 filesystem for it |
| 20:44.30 | _abc_ | I know |
| 20:44.37 | gnarface | you can get progress from dd if you send it SIGUSR1 |
| 20:44.41 | fsmithred | _abc_, you can use pv with dd to see progress |
| 20:45.14 | _abc_ | fsmithred: ah pipe pv into dd? |
| 20:45.34 | chillfan | wwhat is pv? |
| 20:45.41 | fsmithred | yeah, pipe the if to pv and then pipe pv to dd |
| 20:45.47 | chillfan | it sounds useful.. |
| 20:45.48 | fsmithred | and you need to feed pv the size |
| 20:45.58 | fsmithred | hang on and I'll show you an example |
| 20:46.50 | _abc_ | nice it works, no need |
| 20:46.59 | _abc_ | Did not think of pv, it's so useful :) |
| 20:47.02 | _abc_ | thanks for the tip |
| 20:47.21 | _abc_ | without bs= pv says it writes at ~3.6MBps |
| 20:47.34 | _abc_ | not bad for the price I paid ($6 or so) |
| 20:48.04 | _abc_ | except it freezes from time to time |
| 20:48.38 | _abc_ | well, $6 worth of operation ;) |
| 20:48.48 | _abc_ | Let's see if the read data is okay, then we talk |
| 20:48.57 | _abc_ | So the EFI partition can be deleted if not used, right? |
| 20:49.54 | gnarface | an interesting hypothesis |
| 20:50.14 | chillfan | I would leave it as is, and try that later if everything is working |
| 20:50.32 | chillfan | if it aint broke don't fix it :) |
| 20:50.39 | fsmithred | yeah, I would leave it there. It shouldn't do anything on a bios boot |
| 20:53.00 | _abc_ | I just use to put data on /dev/sdc2 etc... the usb stick is poorly used if half is empty |
| 20:53.28 | _abc_ | I talked about enabling auto detection of 'signed' additional partitions before, here, and using them as live session data store |
| 20:53.56 | _abc_ | [some day] |
| 20:54.07 | fsmithred | signed how? |
| 20:54.44 | _abc_ | The source drive cannot be the problem, it's a usb3.0 scorcher |
| 20:55.11 | _abc_ | fsmithred: simply place a file with a suitable uuit name in the / of that partition usually |
| 20:55.49 | _abc_ | scripts look for it, mounting each found partition in turn, and if, they find it, use that partition as live session store somehow. |
| 20:56.31 | _abc_ | This is what I did in the past. Requires adding a suitable seeker script to /etc/init.d or /etc/rc or similar |
| 20:56.47 | _abc_ | *s/uuit/uuid/ |
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| 20:58.05 | _abc_ | unplugging the mouse did not help. This drive IS sick inside |
| 20:58.07 | fsmithred | Don't you need to mess with the live-config scripts to make the live partition writeable? |
| 20:58.10 | _abc_ | Stalls quite frequently |
| 20:58.42 | _abc_ | fsmithred: you can try several things, I have tried none with devuan yet, did that with netbsd more than 10 years ago and more recently with slackware |
| 20:58.58 | _abc_ | the live partition is not "writable" but it's overlay mount can be |
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| 20:59.22 | Schoumi | Hi, is a kernel has been released for ceres with patch for meltdown? |
| 20:59.29 | chillfan | yes |
| 20:59.36 | chillfan | ceres is patched |
| 20:59.39 | _abc_ | In my case in the past I preferred to treat the extra data partition like a mtd device on openwrt, getting config data and pathcing it into the live system |
| 20:59.51 | fsmithred | yeah, I normally use a second partition or loopfiles on the second partition for that |
| 20:59.54 | AlexLikeRock_ | and jessie ? |
| 21:00.16 | AlexLikeRock_ | when ? |
| 21:00.21 | _abc_ | whether? |
| 21:00.21 | chillfan | Jessie I think may be as well, just for reference.. we track the Debian kernel and don't make changes of our own there |
| 21:00.23 | _abc_ | :) |
| 21:01.02 | fsmithred | AlexLikeRock_, 3.16.0-5-<arch> in jessie-security |
| 21:01.37 | chillfan | and 4.14.0-3-<arch> for ceres |
| 21:01.43 | fsmithred | you have to install it. If you just upgrade, you'll probably just get 3.16.0-4 |
| 21:01.53 | Schoumi | ok thanks |
| 21:02.02 | fsmithred | note the -5 instead of -4 |
| 21:04.01 | chillfan | for reference: https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/source-package/linux |
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| 21:04.14 | chillfan | you'll have to check the cve's to see what relates to meltdown |
| 21:04.45 | Schoumi | Thanks for your work on devuan, i switch from debian since a reinstall on a new hard drive. Time to change :) |
| 21:05.42 | AlexLikeRock_ | fsmithred, yes , they are at DEBIAN REPOS, but at jessie repos ? |
| 21:05.43 | chillfan | Great, let us know if you run into any problems |
| 21:06.11 | AlexLikeRock_ | by apt upgrade @ terminal on devuan repos |
| 21:06.12 | fsmithred | AlexLikeRock_, yes, jessie is fixed. It's in jessie-security |
| 21:06.16 | AlexLikeRock_ | when ? |
| 21:06.26 | fsmithred | AlexLikeRock_, no, read what I wrote above about the version |
| 21:06.34 | AlexLikeRock_ | ook, fine |
| 21:06.35 | fsmithred | like two days ago |
| 21:06.55 | chillfan | So apt won't grab the latest version unless it's specified? |
| 21:07.19 | fsmithred | it might if you have the kernel metapackage installed, but I'm not certain |
| 21:07.21 | chillfan | I guess it should with the virtual linux-image-<arch> |
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| 21:07.53 | fsmithred | yeah, I might start installing that |
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| 21:10.13 | chillfan | hoping intel get their act together soon, for now holding off buying new hardware until there's a risc v port |
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| 21:20.26 | _abc_ | we have liftoff. The usb stick was written and now the text files work too |
| 21:20.36 | _abc_ | I am stumped as to why it did not work 1st time |
| 21:20.37 | fsmithred | cool |
| 21:20.53 | _abc_ | Maybe bs=8M was overdoing it. It did make the write 3 times faster |
| 21:20.58 | _abc_ | (but also fail). |
| 21:21.20 | _abc_ | Anyway, I'll use this Monday, then see what next next week. |
| 21:21.35 | _abc_ | Thanks for the ideas, moving on. |
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| 22:11.45 | aitor | hi again |
| 22:12.20 | Guest7481 | is trying to rescue its real name as an nickname, but he can't :( |
| 22:12.28 | Guest7481 | his* |
| 22:12.34 | gnu_srs | testing |
| 22:13.38 | Guest7481 | as a* nickname |
| 22:14.34 | Guest7481 | a few hours ago i said: "no running proccess is detected within the live-sdk" |
| 22:14.48 | Guest7481 | i rectify: |
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| 22:15.41 | Guest7481 | no running proccess is detected within the live-sdk, *DURING* the installation/removal of a package |
| 22:16.46 | Guest7481 | in other words: the $ps variable will be NULL in all the *.preinst, *.postint, *.prerm and *.postrm files |
| 22:17.38 | Guest7481 | only within the live-sdk |
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| 22:22.40 | Guest7481 | brb :) |
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| 23:22.58 | merzbow | hey, when I dpkg -l, some packages are marked for removal with iF, how I do I change this flag? |
| 23:23.08 | merzbow | how do I** |
| 23:26.27 | merzbow | hey, when I do dpkg -l, some packages are marked for removal with iF, how do I change this flag? |
| 23:26.55 | KatolaZ | merzbow: ? |
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| 23:28.33 | KatolaZ | merzbow: if the flag is F it means that the package is half-configured |
| 23:29.00 | KatolaZ | just look at the first few lines in the output of "dpkg -l" |
| 23:29.07 | KatolaZ | that explains the flags |
| 23:29.48 | merzbow | oic |
| 23:30.39 | KatolaZ | F means that the package failed to finish it's configuration |
| 23:30.58 | KatolaZ | you should probably "dpkg-reconfigure PKGNAME" |
| 23:32.37 | fsmithred | maybe 'apt-get -f install' |
| 23:33.26 | merzbow | I accidentally marked some stuff with remove, now any time I want to do anything else in synaptic it wants to remove these |
| 23:33.39 | merzbow | i'll try reconfiguring |
| 23:34.08 | merzbow | aptitude keep-all still wants to remove them |
| 23:34.21 | merzbow | package management has been a wild ride so far ;_; |
| 23:35.16 | fsmithred | to remove something from the autremoval list, 'apt-get install <package>' |
| 23:35.48 | fsmithred | I don't know if that affect synaptic |
| 23:36.34 | gnarface | i don't think they play nice |
| 23:36.36 | KatolaZ | merzbow: apt-get -f install |
| 23:36.40 | gnarface | i don't know for sure |
| 23:36.50 | KatolaZ | merzbow: are you mixing repos? |
| 23:37.48 | merzbow | I did not mix repos this time lol |
| 23:39.18 | merzbow | -f install wants to remove essential packages.. and hexchat.. |
| 23:39.25 | merzbow | maybe a good thing for you guys heh |
| 23:39.45 | fsmithred | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:39.51 | KatolaZ | what do you mean by :essential packages"? |
| 23:40.39 | merzbow | libc-bin |
| 23:41.05 | KatolaZ | merzbow: you must have screwed up things badly |
| 23:41.13 | merzbow | look, idk how to get build-essential without the debian repo |
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| 23:42.08 | fsmithred | huh? |
| 23:42.11 | KatolaZ | uh? |
| 23:42.13 | KatolaZ | o_O |
| 23:42.14 | fsmithred | get it from devuan repo |
| 23:42.21 | KatolaZ | merzbow: are you kidding? |
| 23:42.25 | fsmithred | apt-get install build-essential |
| 23:42.34 | KatolaZ | merzbow: please paste your sources.list somewhere |
| 23:43.01 | fsmithred | using debian repos is like drinking water from the river that did not go through the treatment plant |
| 23:43.53 | nepugia | i found third party repos targeting debian to work on devuan nicely though |
| 23:43.54 | nepugia | e,g the winehq packages |
| 23:44.24 | merzbow | this is why the year of the linux desktop is far away :( |
| 23:44.48 | merzbow | i didnt add the debian repo to my sources.list because that broke my last install |
| 23:44.58 | merzbow | but I wanted to get gcc and make |
| 23:45.08 | fsmithred | apt-get install build-essential |
| 23:45.24 | merzbow | ayye |
| 23:45.25 | fsmithred | apt-get install $(uname -r) |
| 23:45.30 | KatolaZ | merzbow: gcc and make ARE in Devuan |
| 23:45.30 | fsmithred | for the kernel headers |
| 23:45.49 | KatolaZ | merzbow: could you please post your sources.list somewhere (not here, a pastebin maybe) |
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| 23:47.35 | merzbow | I have jessie-update and jessie-security |
| 23:47.46 | merzbow | is there more I'm unaware of? |
| 23:47.56 | merzbow | sorry guys, this is not clearly documented anywhere |
| 23:48.30 | KatolaZ | merzbow: please paste your sources.list somewhere |
| 23:50.01 | KatolaZ | merzbow: everything is documented on the Devuan website |
| 23:50.02 | KatolaZ | https://devuan.org/ |
| 23:50.21 | KatolaZ | merzbow: scroll down until "Packages" |
| 23:50.48 | fsmithred | should be a line for jessie, too |
| 23:51.06 | merzbow | derp |
| 23:51.23 | merzbow | ty guys |
| 23:52.36 | fsmithred | did you install without a network mirror? |
| 23:53.21 | merzbow | With this install I just did from disc without network, then added updates and security and updated kernel |
| 23:53.30 | merzbow | it wasn't obvious to add jessie |
| 23:53.52 | fsmithred | yeah, that's a problem |
| 23:54.25 | fsmithred | would be nice if we could put it there, commented out |
| 23:55.39 | merzbow | that would help a lot I think |
| 23:55.47 | merzbow | I thought this distro had a skimpy repo lol |
| 23:56.08 | merzbow | wow, now we're cookin |
| 23:56.11 | fsmithred | only for the packages that have been changed. The rest comes from debian. |
| 23:56.27 | fsmithred | but you gotta let it run through the filter |
| 23:56.28 | KatolaZ | merzbow: that's a known issue |