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| 01:09.01 | g4570n | updates for the linux kernel in Jessie www.debian.org/security/2018/dsa-4082 |
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| 01:18.59 | *** topic/#devuan is Recent (2017-05-25): Jessie 1.0.0 stable release http://ur1.ca/qxaa5 || This is the Devuan https://devuan.org/ discussion channel (logged at https://botbot.me/freenode/devuan - with useful 'search') | Please take off-topic conversation to #debianfork | /msg chanserv info #devuan | !listkeys #devuan <foo> | Devuan Forum: https://dev1galaxy.org/ |
| 01:27.20 | msiism | g4570n: well, i'm not getting them running apt-get update && apt-get upgrade |
| 01:28.53 | msiism | my apt line for jessie-security is "deb http://de.mirror.devuan.org/merged/ jessie-security main" |
| 01:29.37 | g4570n | msiism: we have to wait for Ampolla to do his job bringing the update to Devuan repos, I think |
| 01:29.52 | g4570n | Amprolla* |
| 01:29.53 | msiism | g4570n: ok, i was suspecting that. |
| 01:31.10 | KatolaZ | msiism: or, you can simply use pkgmaster.devuan.org instead of de.mirror.devuan.org |
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| 01:31.58 | golinux | KatolaZ: For Jessie? |
| 01:32.44 | KatolaZ | golinux: sure |
| 01:33.13 | golinux | measures twice and cuts once. |
| 01:35.18 | Xenguy | IIUC Debian has issued an upgrade on their Jessie (i.e. oldstable), and now folks are probably wondering when it will arrive in Devuan Jessie |
| 01:35.32 | KatolaZ | Xenguy: it's already in devuan jessie |
| 01:35.40 | KatolaZ | if you use pkgmaster.devuan.org |
| 01:36.23 | Xenguy | KatolaZ: Tx, what is the difference between pkgmaster and auto tho? |
| 01:36.28 | g4570n | KatolaZ: with the previous repos, it takes 24 hours to appear? |
| 01:36.36 | KatolaZ | g4570n: more or less |
| 01:37.18 | KatolaZ | Xenguy: pkgmaster.devuan.org has the stuff merged by the new amprolla |
| 01:37.26 | KatolaZ | which is much faster than the old one |
| 01:37.36 | Xenguy | So same output, but faster then? |
| 01:37.42 | KatolaZ | yep |
| 01:37.52 | Xenguy | Thanks for the tip, I'll check that out |
| 01:38.11 | KatolaZ | Xenguy: be sure to have a recent version of devuan-keyring |
| 01:38.17 | Xenguy | K |
| 01:38.21 | golinux | Updating now. |
| 01:38.28 | Xenguy | Ditto |
| 01:38.29 | KatolaZ | Package: devuan-keyring |
| 01:38.29 | KatolaZ | Version: 2017.10.03 |
| 01:38.51 | KatolaZ | https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/CVE-2017-5754 |
| 01:39.06 | KatolaZ | the kernel for jessie should be 3.16.51-3+deb8u1 |
| 01:39.07 | golinux | Do I need a new keyring for jessie too or just ascii |
| 01:39.20 | golinux | I see the updates there. |
| 01:39.25 | KatolaZ | golinux: you might already have the keyring |
| 01:39.27 | debdog | refuses to update, because the increase of power usage seems more terrible to him |
| 01:39.45 | golinux | will think about it |
| 01:39.47 | KatolaZ | debdog: there is also an exploit in *javascript*.... |
| 01:40.34 | golinux | I have the correct keyring. |
| 01:40.48 | golinux | Now . . . to update or not to update . . . |
| 01:40.50 | KatolaZ | golinux: then you can use pkgmaster.devuan.org straight away |
| 01:41.14 | g4570n | Did you notice any performance problems after applying the patch? |
| 01:41.21 | KatolaZ | g4570n: ? |
| 01:41.50 | KatolaZ | g4570n: the worst hit is on I/O bound tasks |
| 01:41.56 | KatolaZ | so unless you do data analysis |
| 01:42.01 | KatolaZ | or massive I/O |
| 01:42.06 | KatolaZ | transfers |
| 01:42.20 | KatolaZ | the degradations would probably not be massive |
| 01:42.57 | g4570n | OK, thanks KatolaZ |
| 01:43.01 | KatolaZ | np |
| 01:43.17 | Xenguy | I updated and there are the updates waiting :) |
| 01:43.29 | KatolaZ | Xenguy: ? |
| 01:43.32 | Xenguy | goes for it (this is supposed to be 'stable', right?) |
| 01:44.06 | Xenguy | KatolaZ: I used pkgmaster, and now I see the updates for meltdown etc. |
| 01:44.07 | KatolaZ | Xenguy: what? |
| 01:45.32 | Xenguy | Get with the program KatolaZ ;) |
| 01:45.47 | KatolaZ | which program? :D |
| 01:45.49 | Xenguy | pkgmaster is much snappier |
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| 01:46.50 | Xenguy | I took your suggestion KatolaZ , swapped pkgmaster into sources.list, updated, and saw upgrades awaiting that had not been in evidence before. Makes sense now? |
| 01:47.03 | KatolaZ | Xenguy: OK |
| 01:47.05 | KatolaZ | :) |
| 01:47.46 | Xenguy | Things seem to be going smoothly so far |
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| 01:48.45 | Xenguy | Time to reboot, see you soon I trust |
| 01:55.11 | msiism | cp sources.list sources.list.old |
| 01:55.18 | msiism | sed 's/de.mirror/pkgmaster/' sources.list |
| 01:55.34 | msiism | sed -i 's/de.mirror/pkgmaster/' sources.list |
| 01:55.40 | msiism | apt-get update && apt-get upgrade |
| 01:55.42 | msiism | ok |
| 01:55.51 | msiism | but: |
| 01:56.33 | msiism | "The following packages have been kept back: |
| 01:56.33 | msiism | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:56.33 | msiism | <PROTECTED> |
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| 01:57.03 | KatolaZ | msiism: do you have updates enabled? |
| 01:57.17 | KatolaZ | and, did those package come from devuan repos? |
| 01:57.22 | KatolaZ | ~packages |
| 01:57.28 | msiism | KatolaZ: let me check |
| 01:57.57 | msiism | KatolaZ: jessie-updates is enabled |
| 01:58.47 | Xenguy | is successfully updated now, via pkgmaster repo ... |
| 01:58.49 | Xenguy | Thanks guys |
| 01:58.50 | msiism | KatolaZ: i'm afarid i can't really answer your second question. where would they have come from if not from devuan repos? |
| 01:58.51 | KatolaZ | did you get those packages from jessie-backports, maybe? |
| 01:59.03 | KatolaZ | msiism: use apt-cache policy |
| 01:59.08 | msiism | ok |
| 01:59.19 | KatolaZ | apt-cache policy firefox-esr |
| 01:59.46 | msiism | KatolaZ: not from backports. |
| 01:59.54 | msiism | also, i have backports disabled |
| 02:00.35 | msiism | but 45.9 seems to be pinned, if i read that right |
| 02:00.50 | KatolaZ | msiism: apt-cache policy firefox-esr |
| 02:00.53 | KatolaZ | (pls) |
| 02:01.09 | msiism | ok |
| 02:02.15 | msiism | KatolaZ: http://paste.debian.net/plainh/729b70ae |
| 02:03.03 | KatolaZ | well, the candidate is the version is security |
| 02:03.16 | KatolaZ | it should be installed automatically, in theory |
| 02:04.26 | msiism | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:05.31 | KatolaZ | strange |
| 02:06.13 | msiism | well, maybe it has something to do with this system being installed from an image that was downloaded before devuan's actual stable release of jessie. |
| 02:08.03 | golinux | I've been updating since the alpha IIRC |
| 02:08.20 | msiism | golinux: but from debian? |
| 02:08.47 | golinux | No Devuan |
| 02:08.57 | msiism | ok |
| 02:09.55 | msiism | ok, this is great, i've no space left on my boot device |
| 02:10.18 | msiism | but i could uninstall the kernel i'm running on while the system is running, couldn't i? |
| 02:11.33 | fsmithred | no, you can't uninstall a running kernel |
| 02:11.42 | fsmithred | pretty sure it won't let you do that |
| 02:11.47 | KatolaZ | well, in principle you can.... |
| 02:12.14 | msiism | KatolaZ: what are the ceveats? |
| 02:12.20 | msiism | caveats... |
| 02:14.26 | fsmithred | I'll try it in a minute and let you know |
| 02:15.31 | KatolaZ | msiism: apt might complain |
| 02:15.32 | KatolaZ | but |
| 02:15.42 | msiism | fsmithred: cool. i'd probably reboot into maintenance mode. |
| 02:15.43 | KatolaZ | you should be able to remove the running kernel |
| 02:15.48 | KatolaZ | and then install a new one |
| 02:15.59 | KatolaZ | the running kernel is in memory BTW |
| 02:16.00 | fsmithred | yeah, I think apt forbids it. Seem to recall trying it once. |
| 02:16.17 | KatolaZ | but it's better to have a recovery media at hand |
| 02:16.34 | KatolaZ | and to know what to do if everything goes wrong |
| 02:16.42 | msiism | honestly, i think i've done that before. the stupidity of having a 50mb boot partiton has forced me to try this one, if i remember right. |
| 02:16.59 | KatolaZ | msiism: you should be fine, in theory |
| 02:17.02 | fsmithred | replace your boot partition with a usb stick |
| 02:18.15 | msiism | or i could uninstall memtest and see if that gives enough space and then remove the old kernel and reinstall memtest |
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| 02:18.51 | KatolaZ | msiism: memtest is normally quite small |
| 02:18.58 | KatolaZ | less than 200K |
| 02:19.11 | msiism | KatolaZ: ok. |
| 02:19.13 | KatolaZ | you could remove the initrd |
| 02:19.18 | KatolaZ | of the running kernel |
| 02:19.22 | msiism | or copy it |
| 02:19.25 | KatolaZ | yep |
| 02:19.29 | msiism | ok |
| 02:19.40 | g4570n | msiism: Apt clean or apt autoclean, do they help you get some extra space? |
| 02:19.50 | msiism | g4570n: nope. |
| 02:19.53 | fsmithred | debconf window comes up recommending that I might make my system unbootable |
| 02:20.05 | fsmithred | recommending that I abort |
| 02:20.21 | KatolaZ | fsmithred: fuck debconf! :D |
| 02:20.26 | msiism | fsmithred: i'll go with moving the initrd aside for |
| 02:20.31 | msiism | the current kernel |
| 02:20.38 | fsmithred | and now I know why the last iso I made is so big - I have three kernels |
| 02:22.48 | msiism | moving the initrd won't work, because during the kernel upgrade the other kernel is found and apt will create an initrd for it |
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| 02:25.32 | KatolaZ | just put an empty file with the same name as the initrd of the running kernel |
| 02:25.37 | KatolaZ | it might work |
| 02:25.54 | msiism | i just purged the running kernel and installed the new one |
| 02:26.18 | msiism | dpkg says: |
| 02:26.20 | msiism | ii linux-image-3.16.0-4-686-pae 3.16.51-3 |
| 02:26.25 | msiism | looks good |
| 02:27.24 | KatolaZ | great |
| 02:27.32 | msiism | no, wait, is this the right version? |
| 02:27.54 | KatolaZ | https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/CVE-2017-5754 |
| 02:28.25 | KatolaZ | msiism: apt-cache policy linux-image-3.16.0-4-686-pae |
| 02:29.04 | msiism | ok |
| 02:30.01 | msiism | http://paste.debian.net/plainh/8f881be4 |
| 02:32.19 | g4570n | sources.list have pkgmaster.devuan.org |
| 02:33.13 | msiism | g4570n: mine? yes. |
| 02:33.33 | msiism | i'm just wondering about the contents of /boot on my machine now: http://paste.debian.net/plainh/7b7a641b |
| 02:33.50 | msiism | why is there "initrd.img-3.16.0-5-686-pae.old-dkms" |
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| 02:35.32 | KatolaZ | msiism: that's strange |
| 02:35.37 | g4570n | to me the same kernel appears in jessie-security, but if you are using the new repo (pkgmaster) there should appear the new update (3.16.51-3+deb8u1) |
| 02:35.48 | KatolaZ | that one is not the version available in jessie-security |
| 02:36.09 | msiism | KatolaZ: maybe i can reinstall the package |
| 02:36.44 | KatolaZ | it's not available... |
| 02:36.52 | KatolaZ | have you apt-get update-d? |
| 02:36.58 | fsmithred | linux-image-3.16.0-5-amd64 Note the -5 at the end. Not -4. |
| 02:37.31 | msiism | KatolaZ: i have. all the other files have "-4" in their version |
| 02:37.49 | KatolaZ | 3.16.51-3+deb8u1 |
| 02:37.54 | KatolaZ | this should be the version |
| 02:38.25 | msiism | ii linux-image-3.16.0-4-686-pae 3.16.51-3 |
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| 02:38.54 | fsmithred | install linux-image-3.16.0-5-amd64 |
| 02:39.14 | fsmithred | that's the package name |
| 02:39.17 | msiism | fsmithred: i'm not on a 64 bit machine |
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| 02:39.41 | fsmithred | oops. 686 version of that |
| 02:39.54 | fsmithred | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:40.00 | msiism | which should be "linux-image-3.16.0-4-686-pae" |
| 02:40.06 | KatolaZ | nope |
| 02:40.07 | fsmithred | no |
| 02:40.15 | KatolaZ | -4 is the version in jessie |
| 02:40.23 | KatolaZ | you should have a -5 in jessie-security |
| 02:40.34 | msiism | KatolaZ: ok, i see |
| 02:43.09 | Leander | do you think they are going to eventually fix the jessie-backports kernel too? |
| 02:44.15 | Leander | since it's not mentionned in the tracker, I wonder how it is going to be handled |
| 02:44.40 | msiism | ok, i have now successfully installed the kernel from jessie-security with an initrd. |
| 02:44.53 | msiism | however, apt strongly discouraged my from removing the running kernel |
| 02:44.55 | g4570n | Leander: kernel 4.9? |
| 02:45.24 | msiism | so, i'll try to reboot now and purge the old one then, or should i do it now? |
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| 02:45.39 | Leander | g4570n: 4.9.65-3+deb9u1~bpo8+1 (when the stretch one is 4.9.65-3+deb9u2) |
| 02:46.34 | msiism | i mean, if the new one is properly installed, i should be able to do it now. |
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| 02:51.36 | msiism | well, it warns me about /libmodules/3.16.0-4-686-pae being purged. but there is 3.16.0-5-686-pae in there. so that should be fine. |
| 02:53.28 | Leander | I'm quite sure the running kernel will look in the wrong place if it needs to load modules later on, but that's the only issue I can think of |
| 02:53.55 | msiism | i've now purged the thing |
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| 02:54.06 | msiism | now apt says: "You may need to re-run your boot loader" |
| 02:55.04 | msiism | is that "update-grub"? |
| 02:55.56 | msiism | "/boot" looks good now. |
| 02:56.32 | msiism | also, should i manually remove "/lib/modules/3.16.0-4-686-pae", as apt didn't do it since it wasn't empty? |
| 02:57.15 | fsmithred | you can |
| 02:57.25 | msiism | fsmithred: ok. |
| 02:57.27 | fsmithred | I always do |
| 02:58.31 | msiism | then i will now rebbot and and hope for the best. |
| 02:58.52 | msiism | brb (hopefully...) |
| 02:59.17 | msiism | <PROTECTED> |
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| 03:02.15 | msiism | uname -r says: 3.16.0-5-686-pae |
| 03:02.36 | msiism | so, success |
| 03:02.44 | fsmithred | welcome back |
| 03:04.02 | g4570n | Leander: the update should arrive: "old-bpo: 4.9.65-3+deb9u2~bpo8+1" https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/linux |
| 03:04.09 | msiism | i think i'll go through the ichannel logs tomorrow (which is today...) and put down some notes on how this was done |
| 03:05.25 | msiism | good morning and good night. |
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| 03:08.55 | Leander | g4570n: indeed, thanks |
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| 06:41.36 | AlexLikeRock | we have patched KERNEL of intel issue ? |
| 06:41.42 | AlexLikeRock | its avalible ? |
| 06:44.31 | Humpelstilzchen | meltdown should be done, spectre not yet according to security.d.o |
| 06:44.54 | AlexLikeRock | so... |
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| 06:45.09 | AlexLikeRock | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:46.49 | Humpelstilzchen | AlexLikeRock: jessie? |
| 06:47.16 | AlexLikeRock | yes |
| 06:47.58 | Humpelstilzchen | https://www.debian.org/security/2018/dsa-4082 |
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| 07:25.24 | AlexLikeRock | installing.... |
| 07:26.37 | AlexLikeRock | done |
| 07:26.43 | AlexLikeRock | reboot .... |
| 07:29.01 | AlexLikeRock | https://paste.debian.net/1004403/ |
| 07:29.10 | AlexLikeRock | 3 seconds to install |
| 07:29.15 | AlexLikeRock | awesome !!!! |
| 07:29.17 | AlexLikeRock | reboot ! |
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| 09:00.36 | nailyk | hi all. Meltdown patched kernel is out for jessie but do not seems to be out for ascii. However someone here told me kernel packages are the same. |
| 09:00.52 | nailyk | Can someone help me to figure out why I didn't have the new kernel ? |
| 09:00.54 | nailyk | Thanks :) |
| 09:02.56 | Humpelstilzchen | nailyk: I have seen it already on my pc, can you do apt-cache policy on the kernel? |
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| 09:04.06 | nailyk | 4.9+80+deb9u3 500 \n 500 http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged ascii-security/main amd64 Packages |
| 09:04.22 | nailyk | There are other entries but this one have the **** on top |
| 09:04.31 | nailyk | oh no colors in the chan. |
| 09:10.21 | Humpelstilzchen | that seems to be the current kernel |
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| 09:23.24 | KatolaZ | nailyk: ??? |
| 09:23.51 | KatolaZ | you have it already then |
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| 09:35.42 | nailyk | yes but was installed long time ago |
| 09:35.48 | nailyk | cannot find when it was installed |
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| 09:37.45 | KatolaZ | nailyk: cannot be "long time ago" since the patch was available on Jan 5th... |
| 09:40.08 | nailyk | yes that is why am worried about. The kernel on my computer was installed like 10 dec. |
| 09:42.24 | nailyk | ok my bad: /var/log/dpkg.log:2018-01-05 09:25:24 status installed linux-image-4.9.0-5-amd64:amd64 4.9.65-3+deb9u2 |
| 09:42.35 | nailyk | sorry for the noise. |
| 09:43.54 | KatolaZ | np |
| 09:44.24 | gnarface | nailyk: for certain packages, like kernels, they'll often update the package several times with minor subrevisions that don't change the actual filename of the package itself |
| 09:44.48 | gnarface | nailyk: when in doubt, find changelog.Debian.gz in /usr/share/doc/[package name] |
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| 09:47.07 | nailyk | great was looking at this for a while! |
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| 09:47.15 | nailyk | try to find gzcat package now |
| 09:48.22 | gnarface | i think it's just zcat, and it's in the gzip package. (i think it's just a wrapper script) |
| 09:48.48 | gnarface | prefers zless for this |
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| 09:55.20 | nailyk | oh zless, good hint thanks! |
| 09:56.00 | gnarface | no problem. never forget to ask yourself the question "has someone already solved this problem?" |
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| 10:21.47 | nailyk | yes, but I never got the right keywords for my search engine :s |
| 10:24.28 | gnarface | check out: dpkg -L gzip |
| 10:25.20 | debdog | need to update to Ascii sooner or later but I ahve one concern. amdgpu. trying to wrap my head around this and hope someone with experience is around... |
| 10:25.20 | debdog | is it correct: there is the open source part, amdgpu, which is part of the kernel? and there is the proprietary part, amdgpu pro, which lives in userspace? how are the (proprietary?) firmwares handled in Ascii? available as package or is a seperate download required? |
| 10:25.52 | gnarface | i would assume it's in non-free |
| 10:25.59 | gnarface | you would enable that in your sources.list |
| 10:26.06 | gnarface | and maybe contrib too just to be safe |
| 10:26.11 | gnarface | but i'd turn them off again after adding it |
| 10:26.15 | debdog | firmwares? |
| 10:26.20 | gnarface | after installing the firmwares, yea |
| 10:28.09 | debdog | k |
| 10:28.24 | debdog | mayhap I am overthinking this |
| 10:28.31 | gnarface | i think you can get the package names from the debian wiki |
| 10:28.37 | gnarface | there should be a wiki page for debian |
| 10:28.47 | gnarface | for the firmware package name |
| 10:29.05 | debdog | https://wiki.debian.org/AtiHowTo?highlight=(amdgpu) |
| 10:29.18 | debdog | ok |
| 10:30.31 | gnarface | yea, that's the one |
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| 10:33.53 | Wonka | gnarface: why turn them off again? to miss all future bugfixes? |
| 10:34.46 | gnarface | Wonka: no, to avoid more packages sneaking in during future updates |
| 10:35.52 | gnarface | just in general over the years, i've found that the non-free stuff has a disproportionately high volume of regressions and critical defects |
| 10:36.20 | gnarface | you'd think it would not be that way but it is |
| 10:36.50 | Wonka | gnarface: but how do you ensure you still get the bugfixes? |
| 10:37.13 | gnarface | you turn it back on to update that one firmware package manually |
| 10:37.38 | Wonka | also, yes, of course it has more regressions and defects, it's closed source :> |
| 10:38.24 | gnarface | but stuff you already have installed may optionally include non-free packages during updates or future installs, if available |
| 10:38.40 | gnarface | so that's an actual logistical risk |
| 10:38.46 | gnarface | unwanted packages |
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| 11:16.24 | Centurion_Dan | o/ |
| 11:16.49 | Centurion_Dan | I see ascii wants to install apparmour... any thoughts?? good bad?? |
| 11:17.26 | palinuro | i personally love apparmor |
| 11:17.34 | palinuro | Centurion_Dan, give it a try |
| 11:18.10 | Centurion_Dan | It's going to be for a ganeti vm host/hode |
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| 11:25.47 | palinuro | Centurion_Dan, apparmor works with a set of pre-installed profiles, if an application does not respect the rules in its profile, then the application is terminated, but you can create your own profiles, and you also have a tool to make apparmor "learn" how a target application is supposed to work, what syscalls should be used etc |
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| 11:28.02 | nepugia | huh, sounds like that one syscall openbsd has, basically if an app starts it can tell the kernel what types of call it will issue, and gets terminated if it uses other calls |
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| 15:52.02 | attos | Hurray ! Just installed the kernel image update against meltdown for Devuan stable (jessie, linux-image-3.16.0-5-amd64 kernel version 3.16.51-3+deb8u1). |
| 15:55.03 | attos | Thanks to the devuan team for providing the updated kernel just one day after it was published by debian. |
| 15:55.31 | KatolaZ | attos: we should thank Debian for providing it |
| 15:55.50 | KatolaZ | it was actually available in Devuan a few minutes after it was available in Debian |
| 15:55.59 | KatolaZ | if you used pkgmaster.devuan.org |
| 15:56.08 | KatolaZ | (amprolla3) |
| 15:57.30 | attos | I tried yesterday via normal apt-get update; apt-get upgrade. But no updatde kernel until now :) |
| 15:59.21 | KatolaZ | attos: that's because you are probably using auto.mirror.devuan.org |
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| 15:59.55 | attos | Yep. |
| 16:01.36 | attos | Shoud I better use "deb http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged jessie ..." to have a more recent repo ? |
| 16:02.02 | KatolaZ | attos: repos are the same |
| 16:02.16 | KatolaZ | only, pkgmaster.devuan.org merges more frequently (every few minutes) |
| 16:04.10 | attos | In these dangerous times we are currently living this could maybe a vital advantage :) |
| 16:04.50 | KatolaZ | well, nothing is vital, except vital stuff :) |
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| 16:35.19 | coyote03 | test |
| 16:35.48 | coyote03 | I have installed devuan jessie armhf on my raspberry pi 3 today |
| 16:35.55 | coyote03 | work very good! |
| 16:35.58 | coyote03 | works* |
| 16:41.31 | amarsh04 | what's the video capability like under that, coyote03? |
| 16:42.03 | coyote03 | not tested |
| 16:42.33 | fsmithred | debdog, here's a test iso. Use the second entry in the boot menu to boot into Deutsch. http://distro.ibiblio.org/refracta/files/experimental/refracta-test-de-20180110_1555.iso |
| 16:42.34 | coyote03 | i will test vnc with icewm on weekends |
| 16:42.48 | amarsh04 | ok |
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| 16:43.46 | fsmithred | Artemis3, ^^^ the iso I linked above has an installer that can handle gpt with bios boot. If possible, please test. |
| 16:46.36 | fsmithred | If anyone here has hardware that will use 64-bit linux but needs 32-bit grub, please test this iso (read the uefi install readme for info): http://distro.ibiblio.org/refracta/files/experimental/refracta-test-de-20180110_1555.iso |
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| 17:54.20 | fugitive | jessie received an update :) |
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| 18:54.49 | Artemis3 | fsmithred, interesting |
| 19:03.03 | fsmithred | hi Artemis3 |
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| 19:44.09 | msiism | KatolaZ: when i tried upgrading my kernel on jessie yesaterday, the the kernel package (among other, e.g., firefox-esr) was being held back and had to be explicitly selected for an upgrade. |
| 19:44.55 | msiism | KatolaZ: when i wanted to perfom that kernel update on my office machine today, the same thing happened. |
| 19:47.55 | KatolaZ | msiism: maybe you have a pin in place |
| 19:50.22 | msiism | KatolaZ: if so, i can't remember configuraing it. |
| 19:51.45 | msiism | but it should be gone after the upgrades, aynway. |
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| 20:15.30 | rrq | msiism: you might have the "standard" /etc/apt/apt.d/01autoremove-kernels (which should have "not" in its name) |
| 20:17.46 | rrq | and there's also an apt.d/01autoremove |
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| 20:24.01 | msiism | rrq: ok, i'll have a look. |
| 20:25.04 | msiism | there's just 01autoremove-kernels. |
| 20:26.56 | msiism | bbl |
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| 21:19.28 | debdog | fsmithred: got it! will play with it ASAP, can't wait to see it in action |
| 21:20.22 | lru | I haven't seen any kernel updates for devuan jessie yet, but they have appeared for debian jessie... are they stuck somewhere? |
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| 21:22.23 | golinux | lru: Try pkgmaster,devuan.org in your sources instead of auto |
| 21:22.49 | fsmithred | debdog, there are lines that you translated, but they show in English. I don't know why. |
| 21:23.06 | fsmithred | I might have to stop using dollar signs. |
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| 22:28.35 | lru | golinux: what is the difference between pkgmaster and auto? |
| 22:29.03 | KatolaZ | lru: auto uses the original amprolla |
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| 22:29.12 | KatolaZ | pkgmaster uses the new amprolla rewrite |
| 22:29.14 | KatolaZ | the latter is faster |
| 22:29.20 | KatolaZ | and merges every gew minutes |
| 22:29.22 | lru | ahh, cool, thanks |
| 22:29.32 | KatolaZ | the former merges once a day, more or less |
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| 22:32.53 | lru | it appears that pkgmaster.mirror.devuan.org is behind pkgmaster.devuan.org too |
| 22:33.35 | lru | is using the mirror kinder in any way? or does it not really matter? |
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| 22:35.57 | golinux | Uae pkgmaster.devuan.org |
| 22:36.23 | golinux | KatolaZ: is there even a pkgmaster.mirror.devuan.org? |
| 22:39.52 | KatolaZ | golinux: anithing under .mirror.devuan.org goes to the same host |
| 22:40.14 | KatolaZ | lru: you should use pkgmaster.devuan.org, if you want |
| 22:41.02 | golinux | I had never seen pkgmaster.mirror.devuan.org |
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| 23:21.00 | lru | thanks for the quick help guys! appreciate it |
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| 23:46.01 | merzbow | hey, I just followed all the steps here https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=564 but when I boot into the new kernel I get a panic |
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| 23:52.32 | merzbow | anyuan? |
| 23:53.54 | debdog | these instructions seem flawd. not mentioning make oldconfig, no mention of initramfs |
| 23:54.32 | KatolaZ | merzbow: which kernel do you need? |
| 23:55.01 | merzbow | I'm assuming the latest, to deal with spectre/melt |
| 23:55.12 | KatolaZ | merzbow: you have it in the repos already |
| 23:55.24 | KatolaZ | https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/CVE-2017-5754 |
| 23:55.28 | KatolaZ | no need to recompile it |
| 23:55.35 | merzbow | hmm |
| 23:55.52 | KatolaZ | just enable the -security repo |
| 23:55.58 | KatolaZ | and get installed |
| 23:56.06 | merzbow | ooooh |
| 23:56.14 | merzbow | new to this |
| 23:56.29 | KatolaZ | are you using devuan jessie? |
| 23:56.32 | merzbow | yes |
| 23:56.46 | KatolaZ | ok, just add jessie-security to your sources.list |
| 23:56.52 | KatolaZ | and then apt-get update |
| 23:56.58 | KatolaZ | apt-get upgrade |
| 23:57.10 | KatolaZ | you should get the new kernel |
| 23:57.31 | merzbow | do I have to update-grub? what happens to the faulty one I just made? |
| 23:57.52 | fsmithred | probably nothing happens to that one |
| 23:58.18 | fsmithred | whichever one has the newest version will be first in the boot menu |
| 23:58.39 | KatolaZ | namely |
| 23:58.47 | fsmithred | did you make a deb package for the kernel you built? |
| 23:59.09 | merzbow | I believe not |
| 23:59.34 | debdog | fsmithred: I've created a .pot to msgcmp it with the latest de.po. and it still gave some of those "fatal errors" which might indicate said off-set. I wasn't certain whether my .pot. was indentical with yours. |