IRC log for #devuan on 20171222

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00:09.48tsarompyonly 14% complete
00:09.53tsarompynow im gettin nerbus
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01:07.44tsarompythat went wonderfully!
01:07.56blinkdogwhat did you do?
01:09.50tsarompyupgraded to ceres
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01:20.57*** topic/#devuan is Recent (2017-05-25): Jessie 1.0.0 stable release http://ur1.ca/qxaa5 || This is the Devuan https://devuan.org/ discussion channel (logged at https://botbot.me/freenode/devuan - with useful 'search') | Please take off-topic conversation to #debianfork | /msg chanserv info #devuan | !listkeys #devuan <foo> | Devuan Forum: https://dev1galaxy.org/
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01:33.47blinkdogNice! <insert I Too Like To Live Dangerously meme here>
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01:51.36jonadabWhat could possibly go wrong?
01:51.42jonadabWhat's the worst that could happen?
01:51.44jonadabIt'll be fine.
01:53.36jonadabis kind of afraid to risk upgrading to ascii, as it is not officially stable yet.
01:53.52jonadabprobably needs to set up a test box and try it out.
01:53.59jonadabBecause it would _probably_ be fine...
01:55.30tsarompylol
01:55.36tsarompyi cant get virtualbox to work in ceres
01:55.40tsarompyimma find a way tho
01:58.15tsarompyeh its okay
01:58.18tsarompy:(
01:58.20tsarompy;_;
01:58.25tsarompyi just wanted to play simcity 2000
02:02.38tsarompywhy does devuan have such old kernels
02:04.18XenguyCos Debian does?
02:07.01tsarompyhm
02:07.06tsarompythis might not be the distro for me
02:09.49XenguyOh no, anything but that
02:09.52Xenguy:P
02:10.27Xenguyheh
02:11.38Xenguyresigns, effective immediately, from his position as #devuan greeter ;)
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02:41.37nagerstHi. Simple question; how do i blacklist gtk-3-bin package frombeing installed.
02:41.39nagerst?
02:42.21nagerstpreferences.d/preferences/10.blocklist does not work any more.
02:44.12nagerstgtk-3-common would also be suitable for my purposes
02:45.35nagerstOther packages i do want to block is avahi, (systemd ofcourse) and pulseaudio. How do do i install a poettering-free distro with devuan?
02:46.05nagersta schim is acceptable
02:46.11nagerstshim
02:49.07blinkdogwhat lines do you have in 10.blocklist that aren't working any more?
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06:28.23sleepingkirbyanyone awake?
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06:33.38gnarfacemaybe
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08:48.50gnarfacesteam sale is on again guys.  any of you udev alternative developers wanna get ahead of the xinput/steam controller issue for a discount, now is the time
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14:04.51quadbootmanhi, i've updated from jessie to ascii via a chroot from a distro with working wifi. now im on ascii using my ethernet... my wlan interface is not showing up. plz help
14:05.46quadbootmani also have another issue, update-initramfs is not updating the current initramfs.. instead it's trying to update a custom kernel that i have since removed -is there a way to reset this behaviour
14:09.30fromportquadbootman: what command do you use ?
14:10.03quadbootmansudo update-initramfs -u -k all -v
14:10.25quadbootmanit doesnt even see my current kernel (if that's the right way to describe it)
14:11.30fromportthe old kernel that was removed, does /lib/modules/[removedkernelversion] still exist?
14:11.35quadbootmannop
14:12.15fromportuname -a  <- what is your current kernel version ?
14:12.37quadbootmanLinux localhost.localdomain 4.9.0-4-686-pae #1 SMP Debian 4.9.65-3 (2017-12-03) i686 GNU/Linux
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14:14.06fromportshould work
14:14.16quadbootmanok trying now
14:15.27quadbootmanupdate-initramfs: Cannot update. Override with -t option.        so i run with -t; it updated. i think
14:16.42fromportls -l /boot/initrd.img-4.9.0-4-686-pae  <- if date is "now" it updated ;-)
14:17.08quadbootmanyup 14:11   i tried stat instead
14:17.14quadbootmanthx ;D
14:17.55fromportso now figure out why it wants to update the kernel(s) that are no longer there ;-)
14:17.56quadbootmanas for wlan.. im the guy from before (some weeks ago) who used ndiswrapper. i THINK it was working on jessie with the old 3.* kernel...
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14:18.09quadbootmani think it does that during "processing triggers for..."
14:18.15quadbootmanso some left over crap somewhere
14:18.36quadbootmani was using dracut before, i cant get it to update the initramfs correctly, manually
14:18.54quadbootmanit creates a new initramfs with different naming convention when done manually
14:19.20fromporti don't know if you have "locate" installled. but locate 4.9.0-4-686-pae should show you all references to your current kernel, try that for one of the removed kernels
14:19.37quadbootmanah okay
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14:20.33quadbootmanis it normal not to have any references to my current kernel?
14:21.47fromportdepends when the update was last run ;-)
14:22.19fromporttry run "updatedb.mlocate"
14:22.21quadbootmanhmm now the update-initramfs isnt picking up the old custom kernel
14:22.44fromportthat is what you want, right ? ;-)
14:22.56quadbootmanyip
14:23.14fromportmaybe because your current kernel was updated ;-)
14:23.27quadbootmanthe locate pasted a whole lotta references
14:23.54fromportwhich is should for a current kernel
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14:47.04quadbootmanis there any reason why updating to ascii and the new kernel would remove a wireless interface?
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14:48.14gnarfacethere's probably several
14:48.56gnarfacefirmware regressions are possible
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14:49.16gnarfacealso if non-free firmware is required and you don't have it enabled in your sources.list, that could be an issue
14:49.33gnarface(even if you had the old version installed from before; it wouldn't be compatible with the new kernel)
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14:50.02gnarfacei'd also check to make sure network-manager, avahi, wicd, or something like that wasn't clobbering the config
14:51.11quadbootmanhow?
14:54.47gnarfacepersonally, by uninstalling them all and then hand-fixing the /etc/network/interfaces file, but if you had to ask "how" then you probably aren't doing it that way
15:01.23quadbootmanwhich firmware-* will enable Ethernet controller: InProComm Inc. IPN 2220 802.11g?
15:02.06quadbootmani use the /etc/networ/interfaces file on a second laptop with devuan to control my wireless without network-manager and without wicd
15:02.42quadbootmanim pretty sure this is kernel related.. but if it's missing firmware i dont know which
15:05.30quadbootmantime for reboot
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