| 00:02.26 | zedki | lol conky does run... it was hiding under hexchat |
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| 00:47.59 | msiism | the sprint pad says: "(DONE) msiism: please check the wdm package in ascii-proposed. If it is OK, we will migrate it to ascii ;-)" is this really done? i didn't do it. |
| 00:48.33 | KatolaZ | msiism: try it |
| 00:48.43 | KatolaZ | I did |
| 00:48.54 | KatolaZ | the package is in ascii-proposed |
| 00:49.11 | msiism | KatolaZ: well, if you tried it and found it to be ok, that that's fine. thanks. |
| 00:49.28 | KatolaZ | msiism: please try it out |
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| 00:51.02 | msiism | KatolaZ: ok, i'll need to find a machine running ascii (probably on one of the laptops). but i won't be able to do it now. but tomorrow. |
| 00:51.25 | KatolaZ | ok msiism |
| 00:51.27 | KatolaZ | thanks |
| 00:51.34 | KatolaZ | let me know if the package is OK |
| 00:51.40 | msiism | i will. |
| 00:51.40 | KatolaZ | I have only changed the little image in the greeter |
| 00:51.48 | KatolaZ | to match the darkpurpy theme |
| 00:51.52 | msiism | i'll also find the time to update the xdm logos |
| 00:52.02 | KatolaZ | ok |
| 00:52.15 | KatolaZ | as long as they are simple file injections, we have a way into it |
| 00:52.23 | msiism | KatolaZ: right, maybe the background could be configured as well, i'll have a look. |
| 00:52.31 | msiism | good |
| 00:52.52 | KatolaZ | I think it can be configured in wdm |
| 00:53.14 | KatolaZ | (I have never done it though, despite having used wdm for a long time) |
| 00:53.22 | msiism | KatolaZ: it can, i just can't remember right now. but i should have written it dwon somewhere (i tend to write down everything that is important) |
| 00:53.25 | KatolaZ | (I don't see the login screen often tbh_ |
| 00:53.39 | KatolaZ | it's in /etc/X11/wdm/wdm-config |
| 00:53.43 | msiism | right |
| 00:54.24 | msiism | btw, taking about file injections: would that mean that making changes to a package like openbox-themes would be possible withour repackaging? |
| 00:54.32 | msiism | taking=talking |
| 00:54.55 | msiism | it's basically just theme files |
| 00:55.30 | KatolaZ | msiism: it's still a repackaging, but one that can be done almost automatically, perhaps |
| 00:55.35 | KatolaZ | we are working on that |
| 00:55.49 | msiism | ok, i'll keep an eye on that |
| 00:57.06 | msiism | gotta get sleep. ttyl |
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| 01:11.02 | sokan | wtf is going on with spammers and bots these days on freenode :\ |
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| 01:11.07 | golinux | Stupid damn bot |
| 01:11.08 | *** mode/#devuan [+o buZz] by ChanServ |
| 01:11.11 | niko_1o158 | ââââââââââââ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--jYqzJErTI LRH IS LIVE NOW!! CALL 415-349-5666 #LRH EFNETowopcevt: Drugo justinsm sunshavi djph sokan cyteen_ robert-e LongHairedHacker guru----- etech3 ToffeeYogurtPots anote DeFende nighty- theLambda konsolebox infobot xes__ voker57 Ipe Xenguy DarkUranium cyteen Humpelst1lzchen bman gattuso targz Hoshpak debdog sedrosken_ buZz quit |
| 01:11.11 | *** mode/#devuan [+b *!*zbvjxss@*.lightspeed.nsvltn.sbcglobal.net] by buZz |
| 01:11.11 | *** kick/#devuan [niko_1o158!~buzz@unaffiliated/buzz] by buZz (niko_1o158) |
| 01:11.20 | buZz | at least here i got ops :P |
| 01:11.23 | fugitive | just migrated from #alpine-linux |
| 01:11.29 | buZz | its spambot day, sry guys |
| 01:11.29 | golinux | Thanks you buZz |
| 01:11.30 | *** mode/#devuan [+s] by buZz |
| 01:11.30 | *** mode/#devuan [-s] by ChanServ |
| 01:11.33 | buZz | aw |
| 01:11.44 | sokan | ty buZz :) |
| 01:11.53 | Schallaven | thx |
| 01:12.45 | sokan | These days it's a botspam party :S |
| 01:12.46 | sokan | everywhere |
| 01:13.21 | buZz | feel free to poke me if the bot itself doesnt already |
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| 01:13.34 | sokan | aye aye o7 |
| 01:13.40 | buZz | \o |
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| 01:19.11 | *** topic/#devuan is Recent (2017-05-25): Jessie 1.0.0 stable release http://ur1.ca/qxaa5 || This is the Devuan https://devuan.org/ discussion channel (logged at https://botbot.me/freenode/devuan - with useful 'search') | Please take off-topic conversation to #debianfork | /msg chanserv info #devuan | !listkeys #devuan <foo> | Devuan Forum: https://dev1galaxy.org/ |
| 01:29.03 | golinux | buZz: He's on #debianfork now |
| 01:29.12 | g4570n | yes |
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| 01:51.17 | buZz | golinux: i dont have ops there alas |
| 01:52.11 | golinux | I do but not fast enough. |
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| 14:24.56 | umbSublime | is there a currently an official cloud image for devuan (qcow/qcow2 or raw format)? |
| 14:27.37 | unixman_home | umbSublime, did you even go look? https://mirror.belltower.us/devuan/devuan_jessie/virtual/ |
| 14:27.53 | unixman_home | heads off for his hour drive to work ... |
| 14:31.44 | umbSublime | yes I did |
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| 14:32.45 | umbSublime | let's just say that that not being on the devuan domain and having an outdated ssl cert does not make me want to use this for prod. Notice how I asked for 'offical' image |
| 14:34.04 | umbSublime | found the official one nevertheless https://files.devuan.org/devuan_jessie/virtual/ |
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| 14:43.07 | msiism | so, to install a package from ascii-proposed, i would need to add an apt line having "ascii-proposed" instead of "ascii" as the release branch and then apt-get -t ascii-propsed install [pkg]? |
| 15:00.08 | msiism | ok, got it. |
| 15:00.31 | msiism | KatolaZ: why did you convert the devuan wdm logo to xpm? |
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| 15:02.39 | msiism | KatolaZ: from my experience, wdm can handle png just fine. but ok, you might not have libpng installed, but still want to run wdm. |
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| 15:21.30 | KatolaZ | msiism: because the corresponding debian file was xpm :) |
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| 15:25.56 | msiism | KatolaZ: well, it doesn't seem to do any harm, so we can go with xpm. |
| 15:26.08 | msiism | i compared the colors. it's alright |
| 15:26.26 | KatolaZ | great msiism |
| 15:26.39 | KatolaZ | thanks |
| 15:27.57 | msiism | KatolaZ: but setting the background to an appropriate color will probably not be possible, since wdm only accepts color names, not hex values. |
| 15:28.09 | KatolaZ | msiism: |
| 15:28.21 | KatolaZ | msiism: tbh I don't mind |
| 15:28.25 | msiism | or, wait, maybe i'm wrong |
| 15:28.29 | msiism | let me check |
| 15:28.37 | KatolaZ | the most important thing in wdm is the POC for package injection |
| 15:28.55 | msiism | right |
| 15:29.02 | KatolaZ | :) |
| 15:29.05 | KatolaZ | don't get me wrong |
| 15:29.06 | msiism | but, fortunately, i was wrong about the bg |
| 15:29.08 | KatolaZ | I use wdm |
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| 15:29.28 | KatolaZ | but package injection will solve *many* Devuan isssues |
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| 15:30.32 | djph | package injection? wazzat? |
| 15:30.35 | msiism | well, if your're injecting a new config file anyway, we could also handle the background correctly. i've just configured it right here |
| 15:31.14 | msiism | i'll put that onto the pad |
| 15:31.54 | KatolaZ | msiism: exactly |
| 15:32.06 | KatolaZ | djph: small changes in existing debian packages |
| 15:32.11 | KatolaZ | which can be automated |
| 15:32.26 | djph | KatolaZ: oh nice |
| 15:32.58 | KatolaZ | well, still to be perfectioned, but it seem to work |
| 15:38.47 | msiism | KatolaZ: ok, everything on the pad now. |
| 15:42.13 | msiism | we could actually even use a background image, but that's likely more complicated because of different screen sizes and resolutions. (i don't even use wdm) |
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| 16:20.08 | unixman | wonders if umbSublime understands the concept of "mirrors" ... |
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| 16:28.54 | djph | unixman: no? |
| 16:31.23 | DPA | That gpg key on the mirrors, is that the one to verify the file with the iso checksums? |
| 16:33.42 | djph | probably not |
| 16:33.56 | KatolaZ | DPA? |
| 16:34.04 | KatolaZ | which gpg key in which mirrors? |
| 16:34.56 | DPA | files.devuan.org/devuan-devs.gpg |
| 16:35.05 | KatolaZ | DPA: that's the keyring |
| 16:35.19 | KatolaZ | containing the pubkeys of the devs |
| 16:35.38 | KatolaZ | those can be used to verify the checksums |
| 16:36.15 | KatolaZ | otherwise, just use devuan-keyring.gpg as included in a recent devuan-keyring package |
| 16:36.59 | DPA | Are the necessary keys also on a keyserver? |
| 16:37.33 | KatolaZ | on all keyservers, I guess |
| 16:37.41 | KatolaZ | you should download them from a keyserver, TBH |
| 16:38.02 | KatolaZ | the fingerprints are indicated in the relevant READMEs |
| 16:39.26 | djph | KatolaZ: but that involves reading! :( |
| 16:39.37 | DPA | And the readmes are on the mirrors... |
| 16:39.40 | KatolaZ | djph: encryption is not automatic |
| 16:40.05 | djph | KatolaZ: I know :) |
| 16:40.17 | DPA | I think that's kinda a problem. |
| 16:41.10 | DPA | All information needed to verify the file are at the same place as te file to be verified. |
| 16:41.42 | KatolaZ | DPA: that information is available on files.devuan.org as well |
| 16:41.59 | KatolaZ | and BTW, you should download the keys from a keyserver |
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| 16:42.34 | KatolaZ | the keyring is there only for uncautious users |
| 16:42.35 | KatolaZ | :) |
| 16:42.51 | KatolaZ | DPA: that's not true |
| 16:43.03 | KatolaZ | the fingerprints of the devs who signed the images are available on devuan.org |
| 16:43.15 | KatolaZ | https://devuan.org/os/team/ |
| 16:43.44 | KatolaZ | which is physically separate from the mirrors |
| 16:43.48 | KatolaZ | and from files.devuan.org |
| 16:44.04 | DPA | Ok, I guess thats fine. |
| 16:44.11 | KatolaZ | :) |
| 16:50.36 | DPA | Thanks for the help |
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| 16:52.34 | KatolaZ | np |
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| 19:17.45 | giricz81 | how it looks with iso images for ascii? still planned to make final release till end of this year? |
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| 19:23.40 | fsmithred | release, but not final. We reserve the right to fix any bugs. |
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| 19:26.19 | djph | fsmithred: oh, there's an ascii-RC out? ugh, I gotta fix my memos... |
| 19:26.26 | fsmithred | not yet |
| 19:26.35 | fsmithred | there will be a beta very soon |
| 19:26.51 | djph | ah |
| 19:26.54 | djph | nice |
| 19:27.00 | fsmithred | if all goes well, rc a week or two after that |
| 19:27.32 | fsmithred | lot has happened in the past week |
| 19:28.12 | debdog | sounds promising \o/ |
| 19:30.04 | djph | wow, good deal guys :). Guess I'ma be reformatting soon :) |
| 19:30.28 | fsmithred | no upgrade? |
| 19:32.28 | djph | nah, it needs a format anyway, I goofed when I installed this HDD, and been living with it ... |
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| 19:33.46 | KatolaZ | giricz81: no ascii images as yet |
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| 21:54.23 | kodomo | hi all - got a short question... I'm currently testing devuan as a new setup for my voip server. However, asterisk is missing parts... e.g., app_meetme.so. Do you know whether it has been left out on purpose? (I can't quite figure a reason for leaving it out, but I thought I'd ask ;) ) |
| 21:56.40 | kodomo | .oO(also apt-file seems defunct but that has already been reported, I gather) |
| 21:59.32 | golinux | kodomo: You will get apt-file if you change you sources to pkgmaster.devuan.org |
| 22:00.28 | kodomo | golinux: just read it... does that mean that de.mirror.devuan.org is badly out of sync w/ pkgmaster ? |
| 22:03.17 | kodomo | .oO(aptitude update w/ pkgmaster doesn't flag apt-file as updateable... which is odd... but reinstalling apt-file fixes the problem) |
| 22:04.05 | kodomo | I guess the packet has been updated w/o increasing the version no. :-| |
| 22:05.10 | golinux | The original amprolla didn't index apt-file. amprolla 3 has additional features like apt-file |
| 22:05.51 | golinux | We're always improving things. :) |
| 22:06.03 | kodomo | ic ;) |
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| 22:06.49 | kodomo | now apt-file confirmed that there's no app_meetme.so (which is one of the _very_ old, very basic apps of asterisk) |
| 22:07.45 | golinux | If you think that is a bug please file a report on bugs.devuan.org |
| 22:08.00 | golinux | Is that file present on debian? |
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| 22:08.58 | KatolaZ | kodomo: do you have any pin? |
| 22:09.34 | KatolaZ | kodomo: is that same package that you are missing available in Debian Stretch? |
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| 22:12.48 | kodomo | KatolaZ: Don't have a stretch installation to verify - my previous installation was an Ubuntu one... I can only tell that the package is a standard app that came with very early versions of asterisk (got asterisk running since the early '00 ;) ) |
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| 22:13.46 | KatolaZ | kodomo: I am just asking if the thing has maybe been removed |
| 22:13.49 | KatolaZ | or is in contrib |
| 22:13.52 | KatolaZ | or in non-free |
| 22:14.26 | KatolaZ | I am pretty sure nobody has stripped anything out of asterisk |
| 22:14.35 | KatolaZ | so if it's not there, it wasn't there |
| 22:15.01 | kodomo | KatolaZ: It's neither in contrib, nor in non-free - adding them was about the first thing I did to check... |
| 22:15.45 | KatolaZ | then it is not in Debian Stretch |
| 22:16.38 | KatolaZ | BTW |
| 22:17.03 | KatolaZ | it was in asterisk-dahdi in wheezy |
| 22:17.26 | KatolaZ | now dahdi is a separate package |
| 22:18.29 | KatolaZ | kodomo: http://www.distrowatch.com |
| 22:18.32 | KatolaZ | sorry |
| 22:18.34 | KatolaZ | kodomo: http://www.distrowatch.com |
| 22:18.37 | KatolaZ | ffs |
| 22:18.43 | KatolaZ | https://launchpad.net/debian/+source/asterisk/+changelog |
| 22:18.52 | KatolaZ | those apps are deprecated from upstream |
| 22:18.57 | kodomo | wow... dahdi is the new name for zaptel, afaik... and I've _never_ owned a zaptel device, but always used meetme... that's unexpected... checking... |
| 22:19.02 | KatolaZ | that's why they are not in Debian any more |
| 22:19.19 | KatolaZ | they are deprecated |
| 22:19.46 | KatolaZ | they were removed in 2013 |
| 22:19.56 | kodomo | dahdi I can fathom... I'm not sure whether Digium still builds the devices... but MeetMe surprises me - as I said... |
| 22:20.07 | KatolaZ | kodomo: read above |
| 22:20.11 | KatolaZ | check the link |
| 22:20.14 | kodomo | am reading... |
| 22:20.15 | KatolaZ | search for meetme |
| 22:20.21 | KatolaZ | it was deprecated from upstream |
| 22:20.43 | KatolaZ | hence you should complain with asterisk's devs, maybe :) |
| 22:21.58 | KatolaZ | kodomo: https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2017/03/msg00007.html |
| 22:22.36 | KatolaZ | this is the first google result for "app_meetme.so debian" |
| 22:22.44 | KatolaZ | and explains what happens |
| 22:23.38 | kodomo | *lol* : https://issues.asterisk.org/jira/browse/ASTERISK-20134 <- f I read this correctly, they moved it to deprecated and then reinstated it to 'Extended support' since removing MeetMe broke things that built on it (I'm not surprised :D) |
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| 22:24.07 | KatolaZ | again, complain with asterisk's devs :_ |
| 22:24.08 | KatolaZ | :) |
| 22:24.59 | kodomo | KatolaZ: If the above is true, then I need exactly complain with Debian/Devuan, since that would mean that they got the 'deprecated' shift, but not the 'reinstated' shift... ;) |
| 22:25.31 | KatolaZ | kodomo: complain with Debian then |
| 22:25.35 | KatolaZ | we haven't touched the package |
| 22:25.41 | KatolaZ | :) |
| 22:26.00 | kodomo | Appreciated on a formal level :p ;) |
| 22:26.06 | KatolaZ | :P |
| 22:27.30 | kodomo | https://wiki.asterisk.org/wiki/display/AST/Upgrading+to+Asterisk+11 <- there's even behaviour shift in MeetMe for * v.11, while the shift to deprecated happened in v.10 - so they are even working on the app *g* |
| 22:28.26 | KatolaZ | they should get an agreement with themselves then |
| 22:29.44 | kodomo | They have... it's noted in the first link (issues.asterisk.org) <- the issue got fixed by reinstating it as 'extended support' |
| 22:30.20 | kodomo | However, the Debian maintainer seems to have missed that resolve and ignored the app henceforth |
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| 22:57.09 | msiism | has anyone (knowing the language) yet had a look at the article on Devuan in the german wikipedia (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Devuan)? |
| 22:57.38 | msiism | i think it's pretty problematic in some parts |
| 23:00.56 | kodomo | KatolaZ: Bug report sent via email... curious to see the outcome :) |
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| 23:03.45 | kodomo | golinux: w.r.t. amprolla: Would it make sense to increase the package versioning of apt-file? (The broken apt-file is available under the same version no. under de.mirror.devuan.org proposed by the devuan install cd - and I wouldn't be surprised to find the lack of version increment a reason for the failure of the mirror to replicate the package) |
| 23:04.54 | golinux | Please file that as a bug report. Versioning is so not my wheelhouse. |
| 23:05.14 | kodomo | .oO(unless of course everyone should always use pkgmaster and ignore any mirrors :P ;) ) |
| 23:05.18 | kodomo | hrm... |
| 23:06.27 | msiism | i would need someone to have a look at that wikipedia entry. should i translate the parts i find are incorrect and then send that over the dng list? |
| 23:06.43 | kodomo | KatolaZ: actually: It was you who fixed and closed it(?) |
| 23:08.13 | KatolaZ | kodomo: dunno what you are talking about |
| 23:08.22 | kodomo | http://bugs.devuan.org//cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=144 |
| 23:08.43 | KatolaZ | you have to use pkgmaster.devuan.org |
| 23:08.47 | KatolaZ | and you will have contents |
| 23:08.51 | KatolaZ | and apt-file will work |
| 23:09.03 | kodomo | KatolaZ: it does, but please read my above lines |
| 23:09.41 | KatolaZ | kodomo: you should use either de.mirror.devuan.org OR pkgmaster.devuan.org |
| 23:09.43 | KatolaZ | not botj |
| 23:09.50 | KatolaZ | the package is the same |
| 23:09.55 | kodomo | KatolaZ: it is not |
| 23:09.57 | KatolaZ | that's why the version is the same |
| 23:10.02 | KatolaZ | yes, it is |
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| 23:10.12 | KatolaZ | what changes is the availability of the Contents.gz files |
| 23:10.12 | kodomo | KatolaZ: The one at de.mirror.devuan.org is the broken one under the same version ID |
| 23:10.19 | kodomo | That's what I'm saying |
| 23:10.25 | KatolaZ | kodomo: would you read please? |
| 23:10.31 | KatolaZ | and wait for the explanation? |
| 23:10.38 | KatolaZ | the package is *the* *same* |
| 23:10.45 | kodomo | hrm |
| 23:10.57 | kodomo | ok... I stand corrected. |
| 23:11.05 | KatolaZ | the differece is that the mirror at de.mirror.devuan.org does not have Contents.gz |
| 23:11.11 | KatolaZ | while pkgmaster.devuan.org does |
| 23:11.51 | kodomo | ...so Contents.gz is not mirrored? |
| 23:12.03 | KatolaZ | nope |
| 23:12.04 | KatolaZ | it's not |
| 23:12.15 | KatolaZ | it's only generated by the new amprolla |
| 23:12.28 | KatolaZ | and available on new mirrors |
| 23:13.37 | kodomo | .oO(Hm - It got me confused, as I expected the default mirrors listed in the install procedure to be fully operable) |
| 23:13.51 | KatolaZ | kodomo: I gave you the explanation |
| 23:13.58 | KatolaZ | Contents were not available in jessie |
| 23:14.02 | KatolaZ | now they are |
| 23:14.06 | KatolaZ | if you use pkgmaster.devuan.org |
| 23:14.34 | KatolaZ | that's the story |
| 23:14.36 | KatolaZ | like it or not |
| 23:15.17 | kodomo | KatolaZ: I do not know what amprolla is, and I assumed the mirror would be an exact mirror to all respects <- hence my _prior_ confusion |
| 23:15.55 | KatolaZ | kodomo: I explained you that Contents.gz are available at pkgmaster.devuan.org |
| 23:16.02 | KatolaZ | I don't have anything more to add |
| 23:16.07 | KatolaZ | :) |
| 23:16.25 | fsmithred | amprolla is a shit-filter |
| 23:17.16 | fsmithred | if I elaborate on that, I'll have to move over to #debianfork |
| 23:20.56 | kodomo | KatolaZ: Your reply is duly noted... and appreciated from a policy perspective. I merely pointed out that I didn't expect packages to work only if I set the repository to the master one, as I'd figure this undesirable from an infrastructure operator point of view (guessing that a rationale for the mirrors is that you don't want everyone to use just the master repository ;) ) |
| 23:21.18 | kodomo | not asking for further explanations, not even making a real point ;) |
| 23:21.19 | KatolaZ | kodomo: it's not that easy, unfortunately |
| 23:21.31 | KatolaZ | we will dismiss the old mirrors, in due time |
| 23:21.38 | kodomo | ack |
| 23:21.46 | KatolaZ | but we can't do that right now |
| 23:21.54 | KatolaZ | otherwise people will not be able to use the old installers |
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| 23:24.59 | kodomo | fsmithred: thx for the offer :) - But I don't think that's crucial to my understanding... it's just that mentioning aprolla didn't ring a bell, which is why I didn't fully get the explanation the first time, as I was expecting amprolla to be a library used by apt-file, rather than something to maintain repositories. |
| 23:25.30 | KatolaZ | sorry kodomo |
| 23:25.34 | KatolaZ | I gave it for granted |
| 23:25.50 | KatolaZ | amprolla is the system that merges Devuan packages with Debian ones |
| 23:28.12 | kodomo | KatolaZ: no prob - I'm a computer scientist currently working in a health research environment... miscommunication is my daily bread, these days ;) |
| 23:29.14 | KatolaZ | ;) |
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| 23:54.34 | fsmithred | glad I could contribute |
| 23:55.43 | kodomo | hm... MetaBugs! :D I used bugreport in novice setting to generate some bug text I subsequently sent via EMail - and bugreport noted a severity grade your bug tracker doesn't recognize ('important') |
| 23:56.19 | KatolaZ | kodomo: we know |
| 23:56.25 | KatolaZ | there is an open bug for that :) |
| 23:56.32 | KatolaZ | didn't have time to attend that on e |
| 23:57.14 | KatolaZ | https://bugs.devuan.org/db/54/54.html |
| 23:57.19 | KatolaZ | kodomo: ^^^ |
| 23:57.23 | kodomo | KatolaZ: *g* It's not very 'important', indeed - but that makes it even a double irony I very much appreciate :D |
| 23:57.46 | kodomo | Made my day, going to bed now, gn8 everyone! |
| 23:57.57 | KatolaZ | well, you have critical and grave |
| 23:58.02 | KatolaZ | which are worse than important! |
| 23:58.14 | KatolaZ | ;) |
| 23:58.19 | kodomo | ;) |
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