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| 00:05.06 | obarun_ | hi guys, i'm looking after the source code of your graphic installer used in your devuan_jessie_1.0.0_amd64_CD.iso. Where i can find it please? |
| 00:05.27 | fsmithred | packages.devuan.org |
| 00:05.50 | fsmithred | actually, I think you can get it with 'apt-get source debian-installer' |
| 00:07.12 | Xenguy | .oO( I'll bet apt doesn't do that yet ) |
| 00:08.55 | obarun_ | sorry i don't use apt-get. May be a git exist to browse the source code? |
| 00:09.45 | fsmithred | this would be the un-devuanized version: https://anonscm.debian.org/git/d-i/debian-installer.git |
| 00:12.39 | fsmithred | obarun_, did you look at git.devuan.org? |
| 00:12.54 | fsmithred | it should be there |
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| 00:15.50 | obarun_ | fsmithre, thanks |
| 00:16.04 | obarun_ | but i'm a little confuse about how it made |
| 00:17.15 | fsmithred | so am I |
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| 00:47.55 | blinkdog | debian-installer is 10K lines of XML and 1.6K lines of shell script ... hmmm |
| 00:48.15 | fugitive | :) |
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| 01:20.43 | obarun_ | very complex to follow the flow of the soft :( |
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| 02:31.44 | mcface | anyone seen a good document on tuning Devuan for esxi 6? |
| 02:33.18 | fsmithred | no idea what that is, but you might look for debian docs on it. |
| 02:33.49 | fsmithred | unless they tell you to do something with systemd, they should work the same |
| 02:34.12 | mcface | yeah ;) okay thanks. |
| 02:34.28 | mcface | esxi is vmware's hypervisor. |
| 02:34.39 | fsmithred | and if you think it's something that others might want to know about it... |
| 02:34.44 | fsmithred | you can write a doc for devuan |
| 02:36.03 | fsmithred | does vmware require the forbidden package? |
| 02:36.57 | mcface | er apt-get install open-vm-tools is fine |
| 02:37.09 | mcface | but no if you mean the 'd no it does not |
| 02:37.16 | fsmithred | cool |
| 02:37.20 | mcface | very |
| 02:37.48 | fsmithred | I used to use the free(beer) vmware 1.x |
| 02:38.09 | fsmithred | on etch |
| 02:40.29 | mcface | im not sure if it's improved much since then... |
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| 02:43.18 | fsmithred | 2.x was browser-based and slow |
| 02:43.32 | fsmithred | so you install devuan on top of esxi? |
| 02:43.43 | mcface | installed as a server |
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| 02:43.53 | mcface | need to migrate ubuntu 14.04 somewhere |
| 02:44.53 | fsmithred | not sure I understand. |
| 02:45.09 | fsmithred | you're not planning to upgrade ubuntu to devuan, are you? |
| 02:45.40 | mcface | no just get as much as i can moved over to devuan |
| 02:45.48 | fsmithred | ok, whew. |
| 02:46.03 | mcface | it's running as a server and doing pretty well to be honest |
| 02:46.16 | fsmithred | just be aware that our current stable is jessie. |
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| 02:46.46 | fsmithred | ascii is in the works, tracking stretch. very much usable for a server. |
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| 02:48.19 | mcface | testing for now on stretch -.- asking for trouble i know... |
| 02:48.35 | fsmithred | no, stretch is stable |
| 02:50.15 | fsmithred | gonna test on ascii next? |
| 02:51.29 | mcface | no reason why not - so far so good |
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| 13:36.26 | KatolaZ | https://lists.dyne.org/lurker/message/20171129.132931.d8e3f91c.en.html |
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| 13:52.56 | Xenguy | Thanks KatolaZ for the info. What is a CDN? |
| 13:53.16 | KatolaZ | Content Delivery Network |
| 13:54.01 | Xenguy | Thanks, that's the first time I've heard that term |
| 13:54.10 | KatolaZ | np |
| 13:54.35 | KatolaZ | it's just a hipster term to indicate something very simple |
| 13:54.50 | KatolaZ | you access a service through a single entry-point |
| 13:54.54 | KatolaZ | (normally a URL) |
| 13:55.11 | KatolaZ | and then get transparently redirected to the server closest to you |
| 13:55.56 | Xenguy | I see, makes sense in the context of mirrors |
| 13:56.00 | Xenguy | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Content_delivery_network |
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| 15:00.39 | bluemarlin | hello people, i can't connect to amprolla - have i missed some scheduled downtime info? |
| 15:01.09 | KatolaZ | https://lists.dyne.org/lurker/message/20171129.132931.d8e3f91c.en.html |
| 15:01.47 | bluemarlin | KatolaZ: thanks! |
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| 17:27.11 | gnarface | i think i have recreated a memory leak issue |
| 17:27.55 | gnarface | it seems to be a problem with the nvidia drivers accidentally pulling in a i386 version of some library then using it by default when they should only be using the amd64 one |
| 17:28.25 | gnarface | the only side-effect being that some of the memory used by opengl applications never gets freed |
| 17:28.45 | gnarface | the problem is i can never seem to figure out which library is doing it |
| 17:28.55 | gnarface | last time i thought it was libx11 maybe |
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| 17:29.46 | gnarface | i can't just remove ALL the i386 stuff, because steam and wine both need some of it |
| 17:32.33 | gnarface | the fundamental problem seems to do with how the nvidia drivers are packaged and how those dependencies behave when you do an "apt-get upgrade" on a multiarch system |
| 17:33.06 | djph | yeh, graphics drivers are a pain |
| 17:33.29 | gnarface | but short of just getting lucky and getting someone who actually knows to point out from their own knowledge which i386 packages i definitely should not have even for multi-arch gaming, i don't have any way out of this situation |
| 17:34.47 | gnarface | i mean, i could periodically just run `echo 3 > /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches && sync && sync` but that still fails to free about 2MB every time and occasionally destabilizes the system if the game is still open at the time, so it's hardly a solution |
| 17:38.14 | gnarface | libx11-6:i386, libx11-xcb1:i386 |
| 17:38.21 | gnarface | should i have these? |
| 17:38.39 | gnarface | they seem to be tied to a lot of other i386 stuff, but i don't know if any of that is needed either |
| 17:38.52 | gnarface | i thought last time it was libx11* something |
| 17:39.06 | gnarface | or at least libx* something |
| 17:40.03 | gnarface | it would be nice if it could be trusted to just default to loading amd64 versions of anything whenever both were available but it doesn't seem to work that way |
| 17:41.29 | gnarface | this is on ceres, but the base problem has existed for years, since it was a sid install |
| 17:43.10 | gnarface | always seems to be triggered by me getting lazy and running "apt-get upgrade" while contrib and non-free are |
| 17:43.12 | gnarface | are enabled |
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| 18:26.33 | gnarface | alright, i guess i'm gonna see how much breaks if i remove these: libx11-6:i386 libx11-xcb1:i386 libx11-dev:i386 |
| 18:26.34 | gnarface | brb |
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