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| 00:38.12 | JKessler | has anyone tried installing ISPConfig in Devuan Jessie? |
| 00:39.17 | JKessler | it throws this error for me "Unrecognized GNU/Linux distribution" i was wondering if anyone knew of a way to force it |
| 00:40.39 | n4dir | i assume the installer is a script? |
| 00:40.57 | nepugia | force uname to lie? |
| 00:41.25 | JKessler | yeah it's a script |
| 00:41.26 | LeoTh3o | or change the script to accept the output of uname |
| 00:41.30 | nepugia | or the file whetever that sais what linux you are running... which fir some reason isnt atandard between linuxes |
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| 00:41.39 | JKessler | hmm ok |
| 00:41.56 | JKessler | i'll look around thanks |
| 00:43.45 | n4dir | at first glance, open the install.php script, go to line 101, "$dist = get_distname(); and foll around with that. |
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| 01:19.12 | JKessler | Created file /etc/debian_version containing "8.0" |
| 01:19.16 | JKessler | thumbs up |
| 01:22.26 | n4dir | ha. good solution |
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| 05:44.20 | Centurion_Dan | yup.. around now... |
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| 09:59.54 | elc79 | Hi! How can i make a clean install of Devuan ASCII? |
| 10:03.49 | sickness | not so easy, I ended up installing refracta from a recent shapshot =_) |
| 10:04.07 | sickness | refracta9_nox_amd64_pre-alpha-20171001_1216.iso |
| 10:04.16 | sickness | putting this you will have a recent ascii system ;) |
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| 10:07.07 | elc79 | It's easier than change sources list to ascii? |
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| 10:16.58 | enyc | Hrrm... |
| 10:17.17 | enyc | Anybody into their GTK/xorg/graphics interaction have a clue where my problem might lie / how to narrow down? |
| 10:18.05 | enyc | Drop-down-menus (e.g. multichoice on chromium, seemingly) have blank-contents, when too far to the left ocross 3-head x-server display |
| 10:19.00 | Guest61988 | Hi! Latest palemoon browser profile apparmor for EN, RU language: https://github.com/nikitushkin/apparmor/blob/master/ubuntu/usr.bin.palemoon |
| 10:19.09 | enyc | Ooooooooooooooooooh it my be only a chromium issue hrrm! |
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| 10:37.22 | sickness | elc79: if you change sources list to ascii then what you do? dist-upgrade? |
| 10:41.42 | gnu_srs | sickness: apt-get update; apt-get upgrade; careful here: apt-get -s dist-upgrade, if ok remove -s |
| 10:43.14 | sickness | idk if I'd like to try that... seems overkill when one can put that iso and already have a working ascii system :) |
| 10:43.20 | sickness | faster and less things to download/install :p |
| 10:43.41 | sickness | I wish there was an updated devuan iso already ascii =_) |
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| 11:01.38 | elc79 | gnu_srs: -s option to dist-upgrade only or to upgrade too? |
| 11:04.56 | fsmithred | -s is --simulate |
| 11:05.27 | fsmithred | enyc, are you on ascii? Sounds like a gtk3 problem. Try changing the desktop theme. |
| 11:06.24 | elc79 | fsmithred: i try with -s option and if there's no error then i can proceed without this option? |
| 11:06.54 | fsmithred | yes |
| 11:07.35 | fsmithred | with -s, look to see what it will do. It may not give an error, but it might want to remove something you don't want to be removed. |
| 11:08.45 | elc79 | this repo is pissing me off, so slow |
| 11:10.08 | elc79 | i installed netselect-apt and it's looking at the Debian repos O_o |
| 11:10.29 | fsmithred | I don't know netselect |
| 11:10.40 | fsmithred | what repo you using? ascii or jessie? |
| 11:12.08 | enyc | fsmithred: i'm not at the moment |
| 11:12.20 | elc79 | auto.mirror.devuan.org |
| 11:12.32 | fsmithred | ascii or jessie? |
| 11:12.38 | enyc | fsmithred: turns out its only happening with drop-down in left-900'ish pixels of x-overaall-display (not exactly left monitor) |
| 11:12.50 | enyc | fsmithred: jessie on this boot at the moment |
| 11:12.55 | elc79 | ascii |
| 11:13.36 | fsmithred | I just woke up and you guys are confusing me with your names that both begin with "e" |
| 11:14.00 | enyc | fsmithred: #a&a channel has "Emcy" on it from time-time |
| 11:14.09 | enyc | fsmithred: some others were all >< about enyc and Emcy |
| 11:14.32 | elc79 | this is a big upgrade |
| 11:15.04 | fsmithred | Konrad Lorenz had three Siberian Huskies, and he named them Sasha, Dasha and Lasha to see if they would know the difference. They did. |
| 11:15.18 | enyc | fsmithred: i changed the theme, chromium all changed colours etc... |
| 11:15.23 | enyc | fsmithred: and .. same problem happening |
| 11:15.32 | enyc | fsmithred: what sorts of things might i need to reset//restart//etc ? |
| 11:16.11 | fsmithred | enyc, I wouldn't expect a gtk3 problem on jessie. |
| 11:16.18 | enyc | fsmithred: hrrm [ok] |
| 11:16.42 | enyc | i'm presuming... chromium, gtk, video driver somewhere! |
| 11:16.51 | enyc | turned off chromium hardware acceleration, doesn't help |
| 11:17.30 | fsmithred | elc79, for ascii, a better repo is pkgmaster.devuan.org |
| 11:17.47 | fsmithred | make sure you update devuan-keyring before you change to that repo |
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| 12:51.44 | AntoFox | o/ |
| 12:55.09 | AntoFox | I tried a new menu for mate and looks better than mate-menus (mintmenu) |
| 12:55.52 | AntoFox | https://git.devuan.org/AntoFox/brisk-menu |
| 12:56.48 | AntoFox | if you have nothing to do |
| 12:56.51 | AntoFox | try it |
| 12:56.51 | AntoFox | :P |
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| 17:44.56 | golinux | Does anyone here have inkscape fu? |
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| 17:54.08 | gnarface | i have a little |
| 17:54.28 | gnarface | or at least i did, it might all be forgotten now |
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| 17:55.28 | gnarface | the controls remind me a lot of blender and gimp |
| 17:56.12 | gnarface | one hand on the keyboard, one hand on the mouse, hotkey changes to the cursor input/edit mode are centralized around the left hand home row |
| 17:56.33 | gnarface | r to draw rectangles |
| 17:56.45 | gnarface | s for scaling mode |
| 17:56.59 | gnarface | g is either vectors or straight lines |
| 17:57.11 | gnarface | e for ellipes |
| 17:57.15 | gnarface | t for text |
| 17:57.45 | gnarface | z for zoom |
| 17:58.04 | gnarface | q for "scope zoom" (not sure what it's really called |
| 17:58.24 | gnarface | d to make it segfault and crash |
| 17:58.29 | gnarface | hmmm |
| 17:59.18 | golinux | Sorry just now seeing your response |
| 17:59.27 | golinux | pm |
| 18:00.22 | golinux | gnarface: ^^^ |
| 18:03.24 | enyc | meows |
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| 18:06.04 | enyc | fsmithred: but is there anything else i can do to test/debug differernt gtxk version, different senttings, etc...? you suggested changing the theme at least, for ascii bugfgy gtk3... but any more gonrola things I could try to 'change the situation' debugging-wise? |
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| 18:13.04 | golinux | enyc: Could you please give clearlooks-phenix a try? I think that's the one I'm going to re-theme for ascii but I'm not enough in ascii to test it. |
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| 18:21.12 | enyc | golinux: can try it in jessie, if thats what you mean? |
| 18:23.17 | golinux | enyc: No jessie is already done. I thought you were on ascii |
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| 18:23.39 | golinux | Thy Clearlooks-Phenix-Purpy in jessie |
| 18:26.27 | enyc | golinux: i have a clone system that is updated to ascii |
| 18:26.33 | enyc | golinux: but currently booted in the jessie system |
| 18:29.45 | golinux | Clearlooks-Phenix in ascii is updated from the jessie version for GTK3 |
| 18:30.14 | golinux | I'll get all this sorted once I have it installed on metal |
| 18:43.43 | fsmithred | enyc, when you described the problem, it sounded like some of the gtk3 problems in ascii. I'm not even sure I understand the problem. Do the drop-down menus look correct if chromium is in a different position on your monitors? |
| 18:43.58 | enyc | fsmithred: yes, they do |
| 18:44.16 | enyc | fsmithred: would appear that anywhere about 900 pixels or so from left, works |
| 18:44.35 | enyc | fsmithred: seems quite consistent |
| 18:44.42 | fsmithred | how are your three monitors connected? |
| 18:44.58 | enyc | fsmithred: all digital connectiotns to same gpu, same x "screen" |
| 18:45.10 | enyc | Screen 0: minimum 320 x 200, current 5040 x 2560, maximum 8192 x 8192 |
| 18:45.12 | fsmithred | what hardware and driver? |
| 18:45.19 | enyc | DisplayPort-0 connected primary 1920x1080+0+848 |
| 18:45.20 | enyc | DisplayPort-1 connected 1440x2560+1920+0 |
| 18:45.24 | enyc | DVI-0 connected 1680x1050+3360+1011 |
| 18:45.38 | enyc | "radeon" driver |
| 18:46.04 | enyc | 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Redwood XT GL [FirePro V4800] |
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| 18:46.32 | fsmithred | I'm the wrong guy to answer your questions about it. Haven't used three monitors, haven't used radeon ever with more than one. |
| 18:46.41 | enyc | actually its probably more than 900 pixels across 1st monitor buta nyway |
| 18:46.45 | enyc | it only seems to affect chromium |
| 18:46.51 | fsmithred | weird |
| 18:46.57 | enyc | yes, definitely weird ;p |
| 18:47.07 | fsmithred | but I guess that's better than affecting everything. |
| 18:49.45 | fsmithred | you using backports kernel? |
| 19:02.03 | enyc | fsmithred: yes |
| 19:02.18 | enyc | fsmithred: can try without, or so |
| 19:06.29 | fsmithred | older is not likely to be better |
| 19:10.25 | n4dir | don't make me feel bad ... |
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| 19:35.07 | fsmithred | lol. n4dir, are you a colonel? |
| 19:35.42 | n4dir | i am elder then the elders. |
| 19:35.51 | n4dir | but i got to eat and then have a walk. later |
| 19:41.48 | fsmithred | enyc, which version of chromium are you using? |
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| 19:47.25 | qoil | hi ya'll i have a spdif output shared with headphone socket on my laptop. it doesnt appear to be showing up in my sound mixer (im using..xfce4) and i DID compile a really new kernel 4.14.. so maybe i have missed it there |
| 19:47.35 | qoil | any way to check if it's picked up and just not enabled? |
| 19:48.16 | fsmithred | aplay -l or aplay -L |
| 19:48.38 | qoil | checking |
| 19:49.33 | qoil | not found |
| 19:49.35 | qoil | odd.. |
| 19:49.53 | qoil | didnt have alsa-tools installed |
| 19:51.20 | qoil | utils i mean |
| 19:53.07 | fsmithred | have you gotten it to work with another kernel or another linux? |
| 19:53.16 | qoil | noope |
| 19:53.30 | qoil | it used to work on windows but i have no windows left on this |
| 19:54.09 | qoil | https://dpaste.de/ZFVy |
| 19:54.10 | fsmithred | did you try googling for the audio chipset and debian? |
| 19:55.05 | fsmithred | this is not new hardware? |
| 19:55.33 | qoil | this laptop is old, from 2008 |
| 19:55.49 | fsmithred | ok, so stuff should work in linux |
| 19:56.33 | qoil | and it's using snd_hda_intel kernel driver |
| 19:56.46 | qoil | i did install pulseaudio cuz i heard it's good for switching outputs |
| 19:57.04 | fsmithred | that was after you determined that it wasn't working? |
| 19:57.21 | qoil | no i've been waiting for something else |
| 19:57.24 | qoil | i can see it in alssamixer |
| 19:58.12 | fsmithred | oh, so it's possible that pulseaudio is the problem. |
| 19:58.29 | fsmithred | there should be a graphical front-end for PA |
| 19:58.36 | fsmithred | pavucontrol or something like that |
| 20:00.23 | qoil | i have that too |
| 20:01.17 | qoil | it didnt list what i'd expect to be the digital output: just headphones (unplugged), analogue and...speakers |
| 20:01.19 | fsmithred | consult goober. Look at lspci output for more info about audio devices (maybe more names or model numbers to search for) |
| 20:01.55 | fsmithred | same port does headphones and spdif? |
| 20:02.06 | qoil | you can see this: https://i.imgur.com/GP0lgC2.png |
| 20:02.07 | qoil | yes |
| 20:02.10 | fsmithred | maybe look in bios for a switch |
| 20:02.21 | qoil | hmm |
| 20:02.53 | qoil | oh 2qi5 |
| 20:02.55 | qoil | oh wait |
| 20:03.04 | fsmithred | I see it there. |
| 20:03.05 | qoil | i think i found the option, it's a "profile" in pavu |
| 20:03.50 | fsmithred | cool. Looks like spdif is turned on (not muted) |
| 20:04.06 | fsmithred | back in a few minutes... |
| 20:06.51 | qoil | holy moly it's working! |
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| 20:44.57 | qoil | thx for your help bye |
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| 22:57.14 | DocScrutinizer05 | pulseaudio ever isn't the problem? |
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| 23:50.32 | golinux | Dyne mailserver is non-responsive. Unable to connect to archives or webmail. |
| 23:51.00 | golinux | parazyd, jaromil ^^^ |
| 23:51.10 | parazyd | waag.org is down too |
| 23:51.16 | parazyd | i just noticed. not our fault :/ |
| 23:51.20 | golinux | Oh-oh |
| 23:51.33 | parazyd | happens once a month from what i saw |
| 23:51.45 | parazyd | maybe maintenance maybe not |
| 23:51.57 | golinux | No way to check? |
| 23:52.07 | parazyd | it's 1am |
| 23:52.10 | parazyd | don't think so |
