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| 01:08.24 | nepugia | nothing like a kernel panic before the system loaded init :) |
| 01:08.43 | fred`` | hm - my serial connection doesnt work anymore :/ |
| 01:09.32 | fred`` | system boots up and i'm able to connect via ssh and 'everything' works. but on the serial console i get no loginpromt after booting. the boot itself is shown. |
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| 01:21.47 | nepugia | How can i install grub from a running system? |
| 01:21.47 | nepugia | with lilo i get a kernel panic if i have an external hdd connected |
| 01:22.19 | fred`` | nepugia : grun-install |
| 01:22.24 | fred`` | nepugia : grubn-install |
| 01:22.28 | fred`` | nepugia : grub-install |
| 01:22.30 | fred`` | ,) |
| 01:22.56 | fred`` | with /the/device |
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| 01:25.22 | nepugia | doesnt matter what os it is, it is surely linux |
| 01:25.55 | nepugia | nice job trying to boot a storage hdd grub -.- |
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| 06:05.18 | guru | E: Repository 'http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged ascii-security InRelease' changed its 'Label' value from 'Devuan' to 'Devuan-Security' |
| 06:05.21 | guru | N: This must be accepted explicitly before updates for this repository can be applied. See apt-secure(8) manpage for details. |
| 06:05.26 | guru | what should I change? |
| 06:05.52 | guru | https://pastebin.com/N6haang5 |
| 06:05.56 | guru | my sources from fsmithred |
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| 12:37.12 | *** topic/#devuan is Recent (2017-05-25): Jessie 1.0.0 stable release http://ur1.ca/qxaa5 || This is the Devuan https://devuan.org/ discussion channel (logged at https://botbot.me/freenode/devuan - with useful 'search') | Please take off-topic conversation to #debianfork | /msg chanserv info #devuan | !listkeys #devuan <foo> | Devuan Forum: https://dev1galaxy.org/ |
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| 12:38.14 | pav5088 | OK.... |
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| 12:48.47 | nailyk | gnarface: I tried aptitude search monospace but there is no result. That's why am wondering if the package can have another name? |
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| 12:50.46 | gnarface | nailyk: there isn't just a package for all the monospace fonts. there's a bunch of packages for whole font families. some of them have a monospace flavor, some do not. try the search commands i gave you, or just install ttf-bitstream-vera |
| 12:51.16 | nailyk | oh so 'monospace' is not a font name? |
| 12:51.38 | gnarface | no, it's a font class, like italic or bold |
| 12:51.57 | gnarface | i know that seems confusing compared to CSS but that's just the way it is |
| 12:52.38 | nailyk | thanks! As I based this search on about:config / unicode search I though it was font name. |
| 12:52.42 | gnarface | i think lucidia and deja-vu both come with monospace fonts too. |
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| 12:53.51 | gnarface | there are also some fonts like courier that ONLY come in monospace flavor |
| 12:57.05 | nailyk | dejavu already isntalled. Lucidia not found. No courier font too. |
| 12:57.23 | gnarface | courier is one of the microsoft fonts. it's in non-free |
| 12:57.45 | gnarface | or maybe contrib now? |
| 12:57.45 | gnarface | hmmm |
| 12:58.15 | nailyk | oh then I have it. I instaled mono some time ago, this fix some fonts |
| 12:58.28 | nailyk | fc-list :spacing=mono report some avaiable fonts |
| 12:58.56 | nailyk | here is the problem: https://mstdn.fr/@nailyk/99013586339341738 |
| 12:59.28 | gnarface | it looks as though the microsoft font package is called ttf-mscorefonts-installer |
| 12:59.37 | gnarface | it's in contrib |
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| 13:02.02 | nailyk | should I install this? |
| 13:02.12 | nailyk | or should I try sudo apt-get install ttf-\* ? |
| 13:02.23 | gnarface | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:03.33 | nailyk | yes |
| 13:03.52 | nailyk | I have no idea at all how to solve this font problem. |
| 13:04.04 | gnarface | is it a font problem in wine? |
| 13:04.07 | gnarface | sorry i didn't follow your link |
| 13:04.16 | gnarface | if it's a font problem in wine, probably the answer is yes |
| 13:04.32 | gnarface | a lot of windows software blindly assumes you have those fonts and will go hawyire otherwise |
| 13:04.50 | gnarface | however, you could use winecfg to install them directly into your wineprefix without polluting your linux install instead |
| 13:04.57 | gnarface | sorry not winecfg, winetricks |
| 13:05.26 | nailyk | no it is a font problem in firefox |
| 13:05.40 | nailyk | ESR from apt, and nightly from the mozilla zip |
| 13:05.43 | gnarface | i use bitstream for my default fonts in firefox |
| 13:05.59 | gnarface | oh but you're in the french locale |
| 13:06.01 | Leander_ | you are possibly missing font covering an exotic language |
| 13:06.12 | gnarface | i keep forgetting that part |
| 13:06.26 | gnarface | sorry nailyk i don't actually know which fonts are good for french locale |
| 13:06.30 | Leander_ | http://www.fileformat.info/info/unicode/char/30b8/index.htm <- yep, japanese |
| 13:07.15 | Leander_ | I recommend you follow wikipedia's instructions for a good support of Asian fonts: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Multilingual_support_(East_Asian)#Debian-based_GNU.2FLinux |
| 13:07.38 | gnarface | ? apt-cache search fonts.japanese |
| 13:08.07 | gnarface | fonts-mona - Japanese TrueType font for 2ch ASCII art < did you confuse this for a monospace font maybe, nailyk? |
| 13:08.43 | nailyk | just installed liberation & bitstream, restarted firefox, still some missing fonts. |
| 13:09.06 | gnarface | nailyk: Leander_'s link looks legit |
| 13:09.27 | Leander_ | that's how I do it on all my devuans |
| 13:09.55 | nailyk | will read this |
| 13:09.57 | nailyk | many thanks all |
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| 13:10.45 | nailyk | mhhhh looks like installing mona solve a few things. Many thanks for your time. |
| 13:10.47 | Leander_ | it's just the apt-get command, actually |
| 13:12.41 | gnarface | it seems to be a broad selection of asian fonts. some of them show up in the search `apt-cache search fonts.japanese` |
| 13:14.17 | gnarface | lol also there's over 550 font packages, i don't recommend installing them all |
| 13:20.20 | nailyk | haha. Yes. I tried but aptitude said something like 500MB to download, so canceled ;) |
| 13:24.36 | nailyk | The final tip was the missing unifont package. Many thanks, will add all of this on my howto debootstrap devuan :) |
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| 15:33.46 | Walex | http://www.sabi.co.uk/Notes/linuxFonts.html#fontFamilies |
| 15:34.41 | Walex | I think that the crucial base font families to install are DejaVu, Liberation, Ubuntu, Noto |
| 15:34.55 | Walex | and the postscript 35 |
| 15:40.06 | gnarface | i think the issue is he was missing Japanese characters |
| 15:41.18 | gnarface | the monospace thing seems to have been a red herring, though i'm not clear why exactly |
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| 17:54.11 | guru | <Evilham> guru: I don't think you should be mixing auto.mirror and pkgmaster, since it looks like you want/need deb-src, just switch the other entries to pkgmaster as well |
| 17:54.21 | guru | I'm just using what fredsmith suggested |
| 17:54.34 | guru | fsmithred i mean |
| 17:54.53 | guru | auto.mirror is not mixed i commented it out |
| 17:55.04 | fsmithred | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:55.30 | guru | hey again |
| 17:55.32 | fsmithred | probably better to use one or the other. |
| 17:55.33 | guru | https://pastebin.com/8L8Y2NBy |
| 17:55.33 | fsmithred | hi |
| 17:55.39 | blinkdog | careful of what that fredsmith guy says ;-) |
| 17:55.40 | guru | yeah i'm getting an error message |
| 17:55.47 | guru | hahahaha |
| 17:55.53 | guru | fredsmith is an imposter :P |
| 17:56.20 | guru | https://pastebin.com/zhBMhLWX |
| 17:58.11 | fsmithred | well, when it comes to which repos to use, yeah, use caution, because that whole thing confuses me. |
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| 17:59.05 | fsmithred | I'm not getting that error |
| 17:59.07 | Evilham | you are not the only one who gets confused fsmithred :-) |
| 17:59.13 | fsmithred | glad to hear it |
| 17:59.26 | Evilham | guru: can you please read what I wrote earlier today? |
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| 18:00.01 | fsmithred | also, if you're using contrib and non-free you should probably add that to all the sources (unless you have a good reason not to) |
| 18:00.49 | guru | " just switch the other entries to pkgmaster as well" they're all using pkgmaster |
| 18:00.51 | fsmithred | and one more thing - if you're mixing ascii and ceres, you may eventually run into trouble as sid/ceres gets farther away from stretch/ascii |
| 18:00.57 | Evilham | no, I wrote a lot more :_) |
| 18:01.09 | guru | temporarily setup Acquire::AllowDowngradeToInsecureRepositories |
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| 18:01.13 | guru | ah |
| 18:01.14 | Evilham | exactly |
| 18:01.18 | Evilham | that's because you are using apt-secure |
| 18:01.48 | guru | alright so should i just switch to ceres only |
| 18:02.04 | Evilham | why? |
| 18:02.04 | guru | is there a ceres-security and updates |
| 18:02.09 | fsmithred | no |
| 18:02.20 | fsmithred | it's unstable, so everything just goes there |
| 18:02.29 | guru | ah |
| 18:02.38 | fsmithred | good or bad |
| 18:02.44 | Evilham | you should go for ascii :) |
| 18:02.52 | Evilham | ascii is pretty stable and more up-to-date |
| 18:03.09 | blinkdog | Is there good comprehensive documentation on how apt handles repos? |
| 18:03.27 | fsmithred | depends on what you consider to be good |
| 18:03.50 | Evilham | what do you mean blinkdog? |
| 18:03.51 | fsmithred | I'm sure there's plenty of debian docs about it |
| 18:04.23 | Evilham | besides that, amprolla3 could serve as understanding point |
| 18:04.30 | Evilham | parazyd did beautiful work with the code :-p |
| 18:04.41 | fsmithred | he does write nice code |
| 18:05.06 | blinkdog | I mean I've read articles and man pages about various aspects of apt and dak, but I don't know that I've found a comprehensive source anywhere |
| 18:05.37 | blinkdog | Something where I could read a book (100-1000 pages) and know "ahhh, this is how packages would be handled in this situation" |
| 18:05.48 | fsmithred | based on my experience reading debian documentation, you will find great detail but not much in the way of overview to let you know what ballpark you're in. |
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| 18:07.52 | fsmithred | I have to go. bbl. |
| 18:08.44 | Evilham | you can always check apt's code as well :-p |
| 18:09.02 | fsmithred | is it perl? |
| 18:09.35 | blinkdog | if I Use The Source can I become a jedi like my father? :-) |
| 18:09.35 | Evilham | e.g. debian's documentation didn't say anywhere how unattended-upgrades gets its variables, turns out it just runs lsb_release |
| 18:10.03 | Evilham | sometimes instead of searching on the internetz for hours, you take a look at the code and it's right there |
| 18:10.08 | fsmithred | blinkdog, yes, but it may take years of studying |
| 18:10.21 | Evilham | depends on what you want to know |
| 18:10.27 | Evilham | oh xD to become a jedi |
| 18:10.32 | fsmithred | ok, almost late. bye |
| 18:10.34 | blinkdog | not according to the latest Star Wars movie I saw fsmithred |
| 18:10.44 | fsmithred | didn't see it |
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| 18:11.17 | blinkdog | okay, don't let us make you late! bye! :-) |
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| 18:50.13 | furrywolf | auxy: re: the laptop I put together for someone that couldn't play hulu... upgrading the video driver fixed it. it now has a driver from 2015 instead of 2010. lol. |
| 18:50.16 | furrywolf | grr, wrong window |
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| 21:43.36 | Demosthenex | anyone using dma (dragonfly mail agent) for local mail forwarding? |
| 21:44.12 | Demosthenex | i have it setup, it WAS successfully sending mail earlier, and now it fails every time with an invalid recipient message (ie: root! how can root be wrong...) |
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| 21:53.01 | Demosthenex | hrm, maybe its aliases. i want to redirect all root mail, but it dies if i do |
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