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| 08:03.40 | nullawk | devuan servers down? cant seem to resolve packages.devuan.org |
| 08:05.15 | gnarface | hmm. down for me too |
| 08:05.38 | nullawk | I did my due diligence and checked on vpn and 4g before pinging. |
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| 08:10.28 | nullawk | on the subject, where can I find a lit of mirrors? |
| 08:10.31 | nullawk | list* |
| 08:10.47 | chanku | waves |
| 08:11.40 | nullawk | howdy |
| 08:11.55 | chanku | So I mainly popped into here to see if there is any mirrors I could use |
| 08:14.23 | buZz | sure |
| 08:15.03 | buZz | auto.mirror.devuan.org/merged/A list of mirrors is maintained at https://www.devuan.org/#download |
| 08:15.07 | buZz | oops |
| 08:15.34 | buZz | nullawk: OVH had a poweroutage |
| 08:16.16 | nullawk | https://web.archive.org/web/20171024235443/https://www.devuan.org/ but it doesnt give alternative mirrors for packages. |
| 08:17.43 | buZz | i mostly use https://mirror.leaseweb.com/devuan/devuan_jessie/ |
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| 08:18.16 | nullawk | buZz: what does your sources.list look like? |
| 08:18.44 | buZz | oh , http://nl.mirror.devuan.org/merged/ |
| 08:18.49 | buZz | that wont do :P |
| 08:20.46 | nullawk | seeing as all the mirrors seem to (not) resolve packages.devuan.org (46.105.191.77), I was just wondering if there was a package mirror available. |
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| 08:39.14 | gnarface | yeesh |
| 08:39.15 | gnarface | STILL down |
| 08:39.19 | gnarface | maybe i need my own mirror |
| 08:39.49 | gnarface | did they have a power outage or a meteor strike? |
| 08:52.55 | KatolaZ | hey |
| 08:53.13 | KatolaZ | there is currently an outage on the server farm that hosts our servers |
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| 09:13.41 | KatolaZ | https://lists.dyne.org/lurker/message/20171109.090123.cf5022d7.en.html |
| 09:13.51 | KatolaZ | please note the above |
| 09:13.58 | KatolaZ | outage in OVH |
| 09:14.19 | KatolaZ | many of our services are currently off-line |
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| 09:19.57 | nullawk | sorry if this is an ignorant question, but can I just use Debian repository to install a couple non systemd dependant packages and expect things to work smoothly with apt when i switch back? |
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| 12:17.38 | fsmithred | nullawk, what do you need from debian that is not in devuan? |
| 12:18.19 | fsmithred | if it doesn't need systemd, then it should be in devuan. |
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| 12:19.28 | KatolaZ | nullawk: you should not mix debian and devuan repos |
| 12:19.40 | KatolaZ | devuan has everything that's in the corresponding debian repo |
| 12:19.44 | KatolaZ | only, without systemd |
| 12:19.51 | KatolaZ | if you mix repos, you are on your own |
| 12:19.55 | KatolaZ | (as usual) |
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| 12:56.32 | FlibberTGibbet | my rpi jessie /etc/apt/sources.list includes a reference to a raspbian repo. don't recall having added that myself. just sayin'... |
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| 13:43.51 | gnu_srs | FYI: A resignation from the Debian TC: https://lists.debian.org/debian-ctte/2017/11/msg00011.html |
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| 15:40.34 | golinux | gnu_srs: It's sad the the TC still hasn't learned the lesson. |
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| 15:41.51 | gnu_srs | yepp :( |
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| 15:54.55 | Walex | gnu_srs: DDs are difficult group too |
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| 15:58.34 | KatolaZ | every bunch of humans is a difficult group |
| 15:59.45 | Walex | KatolaZ: are DDs human? :-) |
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| 16:21.16 | KatolaZ | Walex: sure they are |
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| 16:32.49 | AntoFox | o/ |
| 16:33.01 | furrywolf | *pets* |
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| 18:20.56 | Fervi | Hello, Did you start any normal DE on Wayland on Devuan? :P |
| 18:21.19 | KatolaZ | Fervi: define "norma DE" |
| 18:21.54 | Fervi | Well, I use Xfce4. I don't like i3, so swin (?) goes away |
| 18:22.14 | Fervi | Did you run KDE on Wayland on Devuan? |
| 18:22.30 | Fervi | I don't like KDE, but ... :/ |
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| 18:38.32 | Digit | hi. having some fun upgrading a devuan install that'd been left dormant for a few months. not sure what happened... seemed like a lot of stuff got uninstalled maybe...? currently wrestling with it to get xork working again... drivers n such. |
| 18:38.46 | Digit | xorg* |
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| 18:47.02 | Digit | there we go. :) happy days again. my cushy safe fallback os is upgraded and once again cushy n safe to fall back to when my meddling with fancy stuff goes wrong. installed a few driver packages, rebooted, all |
| 18:47.10 | Digit | all's well* |
| 18:49.17 | ddg | anyone know of a way to tlak to an iDevice? apparently ifuse is not available anymore? |
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| 18:57.46 | Fervi | @KatolaZ : So is this possible to run any WM / DE on Devuan Ceres with wayland? (other than weston) :D |
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| 19:07.19 | parazyd | i think i3 has wayland support |
| 19:08.38 | Fervi | sway has. But usually most DE / WM for Wayland require systemd :/ |
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| 19:11.30 | parazyd | not a surprise |
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| 19:51.01 | nullawk | KatolaZ, fsmithred: last night power outages caused the one and only package mirror to go down so I ended up switching mirrors to grab sshfs. Shouldn't do too much hard I dont think |
| 19:53.12 | golinux | That depends on the mirror you switched to. ;) |
| 19:53.38 | golinux | Debian or Devuan? |
| 19:55.02 | nullawk | debian, installed sshfs, switched back to devuan. If I understood from my research correctly I can uninstall the package and reinstall with the default repos and be back on track |
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| 19:57.58 | nullawk | i actually then switched to ascii when the repos came back online and installed xfce4(.12, instead of .10) because of the dual monitor support updates. This is on my media center / TV system and is more or less a learner. |
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| 20:11.41 | golinux | nullawk: OK. Good you switched back. That is risky though . . . |
| 20:15.57 | nullawk | curious, is it risky because the programs wont receive updates if they are off track, dependencies included? some packages I would prefer to be on track. |
| 20:20.02 | fsmithred | nullawk, your installed ssh won't receive updates because it's a newer version than what's in ascii. |
| 20:24.00 | nullawk | understood. getting back on track should be as easy as uninstalling ssh and installing again from dev1 jessie. is that correct? |
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| 20:25.05 | golinux | There could also be unintended consequences dependency-wise |
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| 20:32.04 | blinkdog | On the upside, if it breaks, you get to keep both pieces |
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| 20:36.09 | nullawk | it's nice to know how to clean up. |
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| 21:10.11 | KatolaZ | starting the maintainance of dev1galaxy |
| 21:11.58 | fsmithred | nullawk, it should work fine, but you might also have to downgrade openssh-client, openssh-sftp-server and libgssapi-krb5-2 libk5crypto3 libkrb5-3 libkrb5support0 |
| 21:12.26 | KatolaZ | nullawk: we are publishing a list of package mirrors shortly |
| 21:12.30 | KatolaZ | they are all over the world |
| 21:12.43 | nullawk | XD excited to hear it |
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| 21:27.40 | greenjeans | D1G down? |
| 21:28.13 | KatolaZ | greenjeans: was advertised |
| 21:28.16 | greenjeans | or did I catch a ban for something? lol |
| 21:28.18 | KatolaZ | on DNG and on the forum |
| 21:28.25 | KatolaZ | planned maintainance |
| 21:28.46 | greenjeans | oh okay, thanks, I don't have internet at home and didn't make it into town yesterday |
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| 22:49.20 | Fervi | https://github.com/dimkr/LoginKit |
| 22:49.39 | Fervi | we should have it in devuan |
| 22:50.06 | Fervi | or not :D |
| 22:51.13 | golinux | I'm sure there is a reason it's not there (but I can't quite remember). |
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| 23:27.54 | greenjeans | nuu vuu-do up, version 1.0.5 in Openbox-64, mini and maxi |
| 23:28.29 | greenjeans | https://sourceforge.net/projects/vuu-do/files/Openbox/ |
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| 23:29.09 | aitor | hi greenjeans |
| 23:29.20 | greenjeans | hi aitor! |
| 23:30.15 | aitor | i'm finishing the app lancher for tint2, i just need a few days and it will be available in both gtk2 and gtk3 |
| 23:31.12 | greenjeans | app launcher for tint2? It already has one doesn't it? |
| 23:31.16 | greenjeans | at least mine does |
| 23:31.56 | aitor | in which distro? |
| 23:32.08 | Fervi | sway works on devuan! :P |
| 23:33.06 | aitor | Fervi: i just packaged loginkit a few minuts ago: http://gnuinos.org/loginkit/ |
| 23:33.22 | Fervi | good :P |
| 23:33.55 | aitor | but it's in the repo of devuan, i did "apt-get install loginkit" and worked |
| 23:36.30 | Fervi | hmm |
| 23:36.41 | Fervi | ok, thanks |
| 23:36.55 | Fervi | sway works, but only for root ( ... ) |
| 23:37.09 | aitor | sway? |
| 23:37.43 | Fervi | i3 for wayland |
| 23:38.41 | aitor | a composite manager? |
| 23:39.45 | aitor | or a window manager? |
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| 23:48.35 | greenjeans | aitor: devuan and any derivative like Vuu-do, in fact the whole thing is way better now with tint2conf |
| 23:48.44 | greenjeans | easy to configure |
| 23:51.30 | aitor | greenjeans: i'm not referring to that, tint2conf or tint2rc is the config file for the tint2 panel |
| 23:51.48 | greenjeans | i know, just mentioning it |
| 23:52.01 | aitor | you have also a graphical application for that: tint2wizard |
| 23:52.17 | greenjeans | tint2conf is waaaaaaaaaaaaay better |
| 23:52.38 | greenjeans | it's not tint2rc |
| 23:52.55 | greenjeans | tint2conf IS the new GUI for tint2 |
| 23:53.02 | aitor | tint2lancher will be a menu for tint2 |
| 23:53.42 | aitor | i didn't know it |
| 23:54.09 | aitor | where are the sources? |
| 23:54.29 | greenjeans | hang tight, uploading a screenie for you |
| 23:54.49 | greenjeans | it's the tint2 that's current in jessie devuan |
| 23:55.00 | aitor | launcher*, not lancher :) |
| 23:56.04 | greenjeans | http://oi64.tinypic.com/akwljb.png |
| 23:57.10 | aitor | seems good, thanks |
| 23:57.40 | Xenguy | .oO( Feels like the Internet is broken tonight ... ) |
