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| 03:33.32 | bozonius2 | where can I find updf for devuan? I've googled, but I don't see how. There are pretty clear instructions for ubuntu, not for debian |
| 03:34.24 | bozonius2 | there IS a mupdf in the devuan/debian repos, but I think that's different |
| 03:36.35 | bozonius2 | it's a python so it shouldn't be hard to adapt... |
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| 04:13.27 | golinux | bozonius: I just installed mupdf and it works just fine. |
| 04:18.17 | golinux | The licensing is a little funky though. |
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| 06:32.42 | bozonius | but is mupdf the same as updf? Not sure they are the same. |
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| 07:27.37 | golinux | I have no idea. Only one way to find out. ;) |
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| 10:40.57 | nailyk | on the freshly debootstraped devuan 2.0 the tasksel install xfce-desktop fail with err100 for apt-get. Where can I get log please? There is nothing into var/log/apt or syslog. |
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| 11:03.14 | gnarface | nailyk: what is in your /etc/apt/sources.list? |
| 11:04.40 | nailyk | http://auto.morrir.devuan.org/merged ascii main |
| 11:04.47 | nailyk | was able to install a few packages |
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| 11:06.49 | gnarface | nailyk: is that a typo, or did you actually copy and paste that from your existing sources.list? |
| 11:07.19 | nailyk | yes a typo :) no copy/paste it is in a VM |
| 11:07.34 | nailyk | s/morrir/mirror/ |
| 11:09.24 | gnarface | did you remember to run "apt-get update" first? |
| 11:11.39 | nailyk | (oh no colors allowed here) |
| 11:11.48 | nailyk | tried again as I used aptitude update instead, no change. |
| 11:11.58 | nailyk | And no idea at all where logfile is located |
| 11:12.18 | gnarface | it's supposed to be in /var/log/apt |
| 11:13.27 | nailyk | yes nothing in it |
| 11:13.44 | gnarface | any logs anywhere? did you install rsyslogd? |
| 11:14.43 | KatolaZ | nailyk: how did you debootstrap? |
| 11:15.53 | nailyk | yes rsyslog is installed |
| 11:16.27 | nailyk | booted on the live devuan 1.0 then the process I used for debian 8: |
| 11:16.49 | nailyk | debootstrap ascii /media/target http://auto.mirror/merged/ |
| 11:17.28 | nailyk | interresting |
| 11:17.40 | nailyk | apt-get install task-xfce-desktop report apt errors |
| 11:18.20 | nailyk | task-xfce-desktop depends on slimm but will not be installed, recommend: xfce4-miwer but cannot be installed |
| 11:18.27 | nailyk | *mixer |
| 11:18.51 | KatolaZ | nailyk: there are still problems with slim in ascii |
| 11:18.54 | KatolaZ | fsmithred: ^^^ |
| 11:19.54 | KatolaZ | nailyk: you should be able to avot task-xfce-desktop though |
| 11:20.06 | KatolaZ | (I know, it's a PITA) |
| 11:20.41 | nailyk | (avot?) |
| 11:21.17 | nailyk | mostly I wanna write a howto deboostrap devuan, thats' why I tested the tasksel thing. But for my computer, I highly prefere installing everything by hand, so fine for me ;) |
| 11:21.42 | nailyk | anyway that is weird tasksel install do not produce errors output on unresolved dependencies |
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| 11:24.36 | KatolaZ | nailyk: tasksel needs more love in ascii |
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| 11:44.48 | nailyk | how can I help on this? |
| 11:45.30 | nailyk | It is not a real problem to test often an install, doing VMs in ramdisk with high bandwith. Full install is like 20 or 30 min |
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| 11:50.34 | nailyk | Sorry for that but can you please gimme the trick about keyboard layout in console? This is driving me crazy |
| 11:56.06 | nailyk | Looks like apt-get install console-setup did the trick |
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| 12:24.23 | KatolaZ | nailyk: tasksel will be worked on when we have a beta release for asacii |
| 12:24.25 | KatolaZ | ~ascii |
| 12:24.46 | KatolaZ | there is little point in working on it before we are ready to produce beta images |
| 12:24.49 | KatolaZ | IMHO |
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| 12:31.25 | nailyk | will tell you soon, I will use it as my desktop computer @work |
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| 13:18.40 | nailyk | https://mstdn.fr/@nailyk/98968998494929928 120MB RAM, 1.8GB on hard drive, that's sooo nice! Thanks you ! |
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| 13:23.09 | fsmithred | nailyk, is that with xfce? |
| 13:23.22 | nailyk | yes |
| 13:23.34 | nailyk | Too much RAM usage? |
| 13:23.36 | fsmithred | no |
| 13:23.56 | fsmithred | I think my Refracta isos use about 180mb these days. |
| 13:24.17 | fsmithred | That's with wicd, cpu-graph and netload plugin. |
| 13:24.26 | fsmithred | maybe some other stuff running, too. |
| 13:24.49 | nailyk | here install is totaly empty. Only xfce is installed |
| 13:25.42 | nailyk | why forking devuan into refracta? |
| 13:26.20 | fsmithred | I didn't fork devuan into refracta. I stopped using debian as a base and switched to a devuan base. |
| 13:26.52 | fsmithred | like you, I prefer a more modular approach to installing the desktop. No task packages. |
| 13:27.36 | fsmithred | makes it easier if people want to remove packages |
| 13:30.07 | fsmithred | did you install a display manager? |
| 13:31.44 | nailyk | yes, just installed sddm. |
| 13:32.07 | fsmithred | never tried that one. |
| 13:32.12 | nailyk | oh ok so refracta is devaun based, with different built-in packages into livecd |
| 13:32.21 | fsmithred | yes. |
| 13:33.23 | fsmithred | I wanted a live-cd/usb for a carry-in-pocket desktop system plus a tool for repair and recovery |
| 13:34.26 | nailyk | great! |
| 13:34.27 | fsmithred | current package selection was a group decision |
| 13:34.45 | fsmithred | and hasn't changed much since squeeze |
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| 15:22.32 | nailyk | Am looking for remmina into apt but cannot find it (devuan 2.0) is it not build anymore or something is preventing his port? |
| 15:23.55 | KatolaZ | nailyk: it's there |
| 15:24.27 | KatolaZ | apt-cache search remmina |
| 15:24.27 | KatolaZ | remmina - remote desktop client for GNOME desktop environment |
| 15:24.27 | KatolaZ | remmina-common - common files for remmina remote desktop client |
| 15:24.29 | KatolaZ | ..... |
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| 15:25.32 | nailyk | http://paste.debian.net/994713/ |
| 15:25.36 | nailyk | interresting |
| 15:26.06 | nailyk | http://paste.debian.net/994714/ |
| 15:26.09 | nailyk | did I miss something? |
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| 15:28.49 | KatolaZ | nailyk: seems to be in backports |
| 15:29.12 | KatolaZ | apt-cache policy remmina |
| 15:29.12 | KatolaZ | remmina: |
| 15:29.12 | KatolaZ | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:29.12 | KatolaZ | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:29.12 | KatolaZ | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:29.14 | KatolaZ | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:29.27 | KatolaZ | it's in ascii-backports |
| 15:29.51 | KatolaZ | you might want to use the new package mirror instead than auto.mirror.devuan.org |
| 15:29.52 | KatolaZ | i.e. |
| 15:29.56 | KatolaZ | pkgmaster.devuan.org |
| 15:30.02 | KatolaZ | which merges ascii-backports |
| 15:31.40 | nailyk | I added the backport line in source.list and now I have it. Many thanks |
| 15:31.54 | nailyk | what do you mean about old / new repository? |
| 15:33.21 | KatolaZ | auto.mirror.devuan.org uses the original implementation of amprolla |
| 15:33.28 | KatolaZ | which merges once a day |
| 15:33.36 | KatolaZ | there is a new implementation of amprolla |
| 15:33.40 | KatolaZ | that merges every few minutes |
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| 15:33.50 | KatolaZ | the repo is available at pkgmaster.devuan.org |
| 15:34.15 | KatolaZ | and is currently getting mirrored all around the globe |
| 15:34.22 | KatolaZ | (details to follow soon) |
| 15:34.35 | KatolaZ | you can use pkgmaster.devuan.org |
| 15:34.55 | KatolaZ | and have all the updated packages available almost in real-time |
| 15:35.00 | KatolaZ | (instead than once a day) |
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| 15:39.17 | nailyk | great! Gonna sed -i the source.list. Thanks! |
| 15:40.28 | nailyk | Does this trick works for devuan 1 too? |
| 15:41.04 | KatolaZ | sure |
| 15:41.06 | KatolaZ | it's not a trick |
| 15:41.20 | KatolaZ | we are building a CDN for mirrors |
| 15:41.35 | KatolaZ | and pkgmaster.devuan.org is the first step in that direction |
| 15:41.36 | KatolaZ | :) |
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| 15:50.08 | FlibberTGibbet | w00t. for reasons best known only to the spirits haunting the aether, I now have wifi access via an rpi3 *without* the ethernet plugged in as well. |
| 15:50.32 | FlibberTGibbet | occasional strange warning messages but who cares :) |
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| 17:02.45 | Ariadeno | does anyone else suffer from screen tearing in mate-desktop? |
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| 17:28.41 | jonadab | No, but the only part of mate-desktop I really use is the panel. |
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| 17:29.02 | jonadab | Err, and occasionally eom |
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| 17:46.56 | batmore | hm... I can't get to dev1galaxy.org am I alone? |
| 17:48.19 | batmore | meaning, that I've tried the web page which says 'page not found', and a ping to dev1galaxy.org says it couldn't find it... anyone know if it's down or not? |
| 17:49.11 | NewGnuGuy | Works fine for me |
| 17:50.01 | golinux | batmore: We just changed dns |
| 17:50.10 | batmore | ah, ok, cool, then it's on me... thanks much. oh, BTW, the new repo pkgmaster.devuan.org is working great. thanks much |
| 17:51.24 | Evilham | batmore: it should resolve again for you in a couple minutes :) |
| 17:51.50 | Evilham | turns out, that company did the-stupid-thing-tm which was not bringing over the records |
| 17:51.51 | batmore | yes, np, I'll flush DNS, and wait a bit... |
| 17:54.06 | Ariadeno | this screen tearing is just getting on my nerves |
| 17:54.16 | Ariadeno | unbearable |
| 17:57.44 | golinux | I still can't get there either |
| 17:58.15 | Evilham | https://www.nslookuptool.com/A/dev1galaxy.org give it a few more |
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| 18:17.40 | nailyk | Before I switch my work computer on devuan 2, what alpha mean for you? |
| 18:17.53 | nailyk | s/you/in this context/ |
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| 19:37.57 | jonadab | alpha, in this context, means it hasn't hit beta testing yet. |
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| 19:46.06 | golinux | Jessie is stable. No alpha or beta |
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| 19:55.27 | fsmithred | I think for ascii, alpha will mean an installer iso that works. |
| 19:56.09 | fsmithred | once again, we're behind debian by some time, so if you can get past the installer, the system is very stable. |
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| 20:16.12 | jonadab | I assume you can just use the jessie installer and apt-get upgrade your way into ascii if so inclined. |
| 20:16.39 | jonadab | has thus far been satisfied with jessie. |
| 20:16.53 | fsmithred | yes |
| 20:16.57 | jonadab | Though I haven't put it on a workstation yet, that'll be the acid test. |
| 20:17.24 | jonadab | servers, kiosks are fine. |
| 20:18.07 | fsmithred | it has good genes |
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| 22:06.59 | FlibberTgibbet | hi, just wondering about upgrading my rpi3 to ascii. in /etc/apt/sources.list there's a reference to deb http://archive.raspbian.org/raspbian jessie main contrib non-free rpi firmwa |
| 22:07.00 | FlibberTgibbet | re |
| 22:07.28 | FlibberTgibbet | which i guess wouldn't be editable to ascii. is there a workaround for this please? |
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