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| 00:24.12 | Evilham | yes he did |
| 00:24.28 | Evilham | you can use an amprolla3 mirror at pkgmaster.devuan.org |
| 00:24.59 | aitor | i must to give it a try :) |
| 00:26.36 | aitor | thanks to our little parazyd :) |
| 00:28.09 | aitor | i must give?, not i must to give? |
| 00:31.44 | fsmithred | yes, "I must give it a try." |
| 00:32.22 | fsmithred | and yes, you must. ascii-security works at pkgmaster |
| 00:33.10 | aitor | fsmithred: i must go to bed |
| 00:33.16 | fsmithred | sleep well |
| 00:33.38 | aitor | bye, devuanitas :) |
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| 09:00.54 | aitor | good morning |
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| 09:48.22 | Hum | Devuan: because systemd is Multics, not Unix |
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| 09:51.04 | Hum | If systemd is too much of multics, try Devuan |
| 10:00.58 | Hum | Devuan! since systemd is multics |
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| 10:07.23 | Hum | In https://lists.dyne.org/lurker/message/20160602.114955.fe7ffe04.en.html screenfetch shows the Devuan logo. Was it an official release of screenfetch? |
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| 13:05.06 | fsmithred | debdog, I pushed changes to github. Had to change the wording in a couple of places. |
| 13:07.31 | debdog | rgr |
| 13:08.19 | aitor | hi |
| 13:09.10 | aitor | xdg-user-dirs doesn't work in the blend of gnuinos, any hints? |
| 13:10.48 | aitor | there are no Downloads, Desktop, Music, Images, etc... folders in the home directory |
| 13:11.58 | aitor | Videos, not Music :) |
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| 13:17.35 | aitor | need to reboot..., the current version of udev is 215-17+deb8u7 and vdev provides (= 215-17+deb8u4) |
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| 13:34.51 | fsmithred | aitor, the absence of those user dirs spamming your home is a feature, not a bug. |
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| 14:54.13 | Venker | hi people |
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| 16:13.04 | nullptr | Hello everyone |
| 16:13.24 | nullptr | I'm going to report an issue found with Devuan Jessie installer: |
| 16:13.35 | nullptr | (but if there is a better way please tell me) |
| 16:14.21 | nullptr | ISO downloaded not longer than 4-5 weeks ago (not live) |
| 16:14.42 | nullptr | the most simple setup using dm-crypt |
| 16:15.15 | nullptr | separate boot partition not encrypted and root partition encrypted, nothing else |
| 16:15.34 | nullptr | the installer failed the grub installation |
| 16:15.49 | nullptr | there was only the grub rescue shell |
| 16:16.04 | nullptr | and nothing else, all the modules needed to do ANYTHING were missing |
| 16:16.23 | nullptr | (copying them from somewhere else solved the issue) |
| 16:16.57 | nullptr | before that I tried to reinstall a couple of times ending up with the same result |
| 16:17.26 | telst4r | nullptr, did you look at this: https://bugs.devuan.org/ |
| 16:18.25 | nullptr | ha! |
| 16:18.26 | nullptr | thank you |
| 16:18.30 | nullptr | I missed that |
| 16:18.44 | nullptr | where is that from the homepage? |
| 16:19.14 | telst4r | it's at the very bottom of the home page |
| 16:19.54 | nullptr | ohh! right! |
| 16:20.04 | nullptr | I'll report there |
| 16:20.06 | nullptr | thanks! |
| 16:23.46 | fsmithred | nullptr, which iso? netinstall, CD or DVD? |
| 16:24.45 | fsmithred | and did you check the sha256sum of the iso? |
| 16:24.55 | nullptr | CD |
| 16:25.13 | nullptr | no, I didn't check the checksum but definitely downloaded again |
| 16:25.30 | nullptr | I still have the iso, I'll check |
| 16:25.50 | fsmithred | I've done that kind of install, but I don't recall which iso I used. Anyway, grub install worked. |
| 16:26.13 | fsmithred | uefi or bios? |
| 16:26.22 | nullptr | bios |
| 16:27.14 | nullptr | checksum matches |
| 16:27.27 | fsmithred | I've seen other reports of grub failing, but I don't think anyone has identified the actual problem(s). |
| 16:27.49 | nullptr | maybe this: |
| 16:27.50 | nullptr | http://bugs.devuan.org//cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=23 |
| 16:28.28 | nullptr | it doesn't seem very descriptive |
| 16:29.02 | fsmithred | yeah, there were a couple of posts at d1g that were eaqually informative. |
| 16:29.54 | fsmithred | Did you try a grub reinstall from the iso? It's under Advanced in the boot menu. |
| 16:30.47 | nullptr | I didn't |
| 16:31.02 | fsmithred | that would be the easiest way to fix it. |
| 16:31.10 | nullptr | I just copied the modules from another installation |
| 16:31.15 | fsmithred | oh, ok. |
| 16:31.21 | fsmithred | whatever works. |
| 16:31.26 | nullptr | yeah :D |
| 16:32.15 | fsmithred | bug report is probably not worth the effort on this one. There are no current plans to update the jessie installers. |
| 16:32.41 | fsmithred | everyone is focused on ascii - we're hoping to get that out a lot faster than we did jessie. |
| 16:33.20 | nullptr | Well, I'll just reply to the existing but at least to keep a record in case it happens again |
| 16:33.24 | nullptr | *bug |
| 16:33.36 | fsmithred | yeah, that's fine. |
| 16:34.23 | nullptr | Anyway, thank you very much for the hard work! |
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| 18:10.11 | klops | ello |
| 18:11.49 | klops | a question. i've installed devuan with live desktop, choose french as language. System install is ok but language is english and there is no option to choose language, i need french. Can someone help ? Thanks |
| 18:12.10 | fsmithred | yes |
| 18:12.38 | fsmithred | look in /etc/profile.d |
| 18:13.11 | fsmithred | see any scripts with "locale" in the name? |
| 18:13.40 | klops | yes |
| 18:13.51 | fsmithred | name? |
| 18:13.56 | fsmithred | tt-something? |
| 18:14.17 | klops | locales.sh |
| 18:14.26 | klops | bash_completion.sh |
| 18:14.31 | klops | vte.sh |
| 18:14.32 | fsmithred | ok, there should be two variables in locales.sh |
| 18:14.44 | fsmithred | LANG= and LC_ALL= |
| 18:15.01 | fsmithred | set them to fr_FR.UTF-8 |
| 18:15.05 | fsmithred | or whatever you want |
| 18:15.10 | klops | yes lang=c lc_all=c |
| 18:15.22 | fsmithred | then log out and log in again, and all should be in French |
| 18:15.52 | fsmithred | you booted the live-cd in English? |
| 18:16.33 | n4dir | dpkg-reconfigure locales; doesn't do it? |
| 18:17.02 | klops | yes i've booted in english |
| 18:17.04 | fsmithred | no, because that file is still there. Maybe remove that file and reconfigure |
| 18:17.23 | fsmithred | yeah, setting the language in the installer apparently doesn't work. |
| 18:17.42 | fsmithred | I know if you boot to the desired language, it will install that language |
| 18:18.08 | klops | nice it works |
| 18:18.12 | klops | thanks |
| 18:18.23 | fsmithred | yw |
| 18:18.33 | klops | another question hown to get xfce 4.12 ? |
| 18:18.40 | fsmithred | it's in ascii |
| 18:19.31 | klops | ok great |
| 18:19.33 | fsmithred | it's not in backports, so you would have to upgrade the system |
| 18:19.49 | klops | i will wait |
| 18:20.21 | klops | for now i use devuan on a samsung n250 netbook |
| 18:20.42 | klops | n... something |
| 18:21.34 | fsmithred | ? |
| 18:22.16 | n4dir | gotta say that i was never excited about upgrades of xfce |
| 18:24.09 | klops | xfce upgrade is slow but good |
| 18:24.27 | klops | thanks i'll be back |
| 18:24.43 | fsmithred | bye |
| 18:24.44 | n4dir | yeah, that's what i tried to say |
| 18:25.02 | fsmithred | 4.12 is confusing when you try to change destkop background |
| 18:25.21 | n4dir | been a while i ran it, and not that sure which version |
| 18:25.36 | fsmithred | and I can't have my transparent terminal unless I turn on compositing |
| 18:25.54 | fsmithred | (or use lxterminal) |
| 18:26.31 | n4dir | i have heard xfce4-terminal would offer a way to pop it up and down in ego-shooter mode, like tilda, but i never really tried (and don't know which version, a newer one) |
| 18:26.36 | fsmithred | 4.10 in jessie, 4.8 in wheezy |
| 18:26.47 | n4dir | ah, thanks |
| 18:27.15 | n4dir | i use awesome for a while now, before i fooled for a few months with window-manager. |
| 18:27.29 | n4dir | sometimes i think of going back to xfce |
| 18:27.50 | n4dir | window-maker, duh |
| 18:27.55 | fsmithred | sometimes I think of leaving xfce |
| 18:28.03 | n4dir | lol. |
| 18:30.13 | fsmithred | need a break from the screen. bbiab. |
| 18:30.20 | n4dir | later :-) |
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| 21:16.49 | bozonius | everything in Devuan appears to be working correctly. No problems to report. : ) |
| 21:16.53 | bozonius | good work, everyone |
| 21:16.59 | bozonius | thank you for giving us Devuan. |
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| 21:22.14 | m3tti | hi |
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| 22:41.36 | Xenguy | That's the second time my laptop has rebooted itself in that last couple of weeks :-/ |
| 22:41.55 | Xenguy | I wonder whether using 'hibernate' all the time has anything to do with it? |
| 22:42.21 | Xenguy | Never really seen this kind of behavior on linux before |
| 22:42.47 | Xenguy | I've had this laptop for a year now, and it's worked fine |
| 22:44.48 | gnarface | what kernel Xenguy? |
| 22:45.43 | Xenguy | $ uname -a |
| 22:45.44 | Xenguy | Linux devuan 3.16.0-4-686-pae #1 SMP Debian 3.16.43-2+deb8u5 (2017-09-19) i686 GNU/Linux |
| 22:46.02 | gnarface | hmmm. the jessie one. i got nothing. |
| 22:46.15 | Xenguy | Thanks anyway |
| 22:46.25 | fsmithred | mine has done that occasionally |
| 22:46.33 | fsmithred | desktop, not laptop |
| 22:46.45 | fsmithred | seems to happen when I'm out of the room |
| 22:46.56 | Xenguy | huh, wonder why? It's not behavior I've seen much of, as I say |
| 22:46.59 | gnarface | i experienced a spontaneous reboot and a spontaneous shutdown on ceres recently after upgrading to 4.13, first time on this hardware. i assumed overheating though, there was a lot of dust in here. |
| 22:47.20 | Xenguy | orders pizza... |
| 22:47.25 | gnarface | but i haven't ruled out a problem with this kernel or the nvidia drivers i put with it |
| 22:47.44 | gnarface | haven't ruled out hardware failure either, for that matter, it's a old machine. but so far no other symptoms... |
| 22:48.15 | gnarface | there was some sort of solar storm warning too though, wasn't there? |
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| 22:49.57 | fsmithred | how many layers of aluminum foil will that take? |
| 22:52.53 | gnarface | on my roof? to protect from the solar storms? |
| 22:52.56 | gnarface | i heard aluminum doesn't work |
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| 22:53.09 | gnarface | :( |
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| 22:53.54 | gnarface | i think it has to be copper or steel |
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| 23:02.21 | fsmithred | you're closer to the pole, aren't you? |
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| 23:14.47 | gnarface | no i'm not that far north |
| 23:15.07 | gnarface | i think i'm at about latitude 35 |
| 23:16.02 | fsmithred | 42 here |
| 23:16.49 | fsmithred | copper would look cool. |
| 23:18.47 | Xenguy | 42, the perfect place to live |
| 23:19.34 | Xenguy | You'll never catch me now, copper |
| 23:19.47 | fsmithred | lol |
| 23:19.53 | Xenguy | 8D |
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