00:00.06 | gnarface | dpkg-reconfigure locales |
00:04.16 | AlexLikeRock | uploading pic .... |
00:05.46 | AlexLikeRock | http://picpaste.com/pics/1-Vn0883J9.1508285123.png |
00:06.03 | AlexLikeRock | yesterday i put the EN_US |
00:07.28 | gnarface | yes, but isn't the problem that es_* is missing? |
00:07.36 | AlexLikeRock | uploading... |
00:08.28 | fromport | what is the output of "locale -a" ? |
00:08.58 | AlexLikeRock | ES_ES http://picpaste.com/pics/2-VbV3UodG.1508285326.png |
00:09.52 | AlexLikeRock | # locale -a |
00:09.52 | AlexLikeRock | locale: Cannot set LC_CTYPE to default locale: No such file or directory |
00:09.53 | AlexLikeRock | locale: Cannot set LC_MESSAGES to default locale: No such file or directory |
00:09.53 | AlexLikeRock | locale: Cannot set LC_COLLATE to default locale: No such file or directory |
00:09.54 | AlexLikeRock | C |
00:09.54 | AlexLikeRock | C.UTF-8 |
00:09.58 | AlexLikeRock | POSIX |
00:09.59 | AlexLikeRock | en_US |
00:10.01 | AlexLikeRock | en_US.iso88591 |
00:10.04 | AlexLikeRock | en_US.iso885915 |
00:10.05 | fromport | so enable that (space bar), go to okay |
00:10.06 | AlexLikeRock | en_US.utf8 |
00:10.08 | AlexLikeRock | :-/ |
00:10.50 | gnarface | navigate with arrows and tab key, use space bar to toggle selections |
00:12.20 | AlexLikeRock | TO do what ? |
00:12.26 | AlexLikeRock | <PROTECTED> |
00:12.34 | AlexLikeRock | or es_es ? |
00:12.41 | fromport | enable es_ES |
00:12.58 | fromport | should be an "*" in that screenshot |
00:13.07 | fromport | than you use tab to go to "OK" |
00:14.25 | fromport | then it will ask you which locales to make default eg: en_US or es_ES |
00:14.41 | fromport | you choose what you want |
00:16.07 | AlexLikeRock | http://picpaste.com/pics/3-clhvR8iM.1508285741.png |
00:16.08 | AlexLikeRock | done |
00:16.46 | AlexLikeRock | Generating locales (this might take a while)... |
00:16.46 | AlexLikeRock | <PROTECTED> |
00:16.46 | AlexLikeRock | <PROTECTED> |
00:16.46 | AlexLikeRock | <PROTECTED> |
00:16.46 | AlexLikeRock | <PROTECTED> |
00:16.47 | AlexLikeRock | <PROTECTED> |
00:16.49 | AlexLikeRock | <PROTECTED> |
00:16.51 | AlexLikeRock | Generation complete. |
00:17.28 | AlexLikeRock | <PROTECTED> |
00:17.28 | AlexLikeRock | <PROTECTED> |
00:17.53 | KatolaZ | wait AlexLikeRock |
00:17.54 | gnarface | what is the error exactly now, and what terminal is it? |
00:17.59 | AlexLikeRock | ok KatolaZ |
00:18.11 | KatolaZ | you mist probably exit from your X session, and enter again |
00:18.21 | KatolaZ | s/mist/must/g |
00:18.33 | gnarface | oh, yea |
00:18.59 | KatolaZ | 'night! |
00:19.01 | KatolaZ | o/ |
00:20.02 | AlexLikeRock | xfce4-terminal 0.6.3 |
00:20.13 | AlexLikeRock | when open appear : |
00:20.32 | AlexLikeRock | bash: warning: setlocale: LC_ALL: cannot change locale (es_es.utf8F-8) |
00:20.33 | AlexLikeRock | alex@pc:~$ |
00:21.15 | fromport | did you read/understand what was suggested ? you have to LEAVE your graphical environment before new locales work |
00:21.33 | fromport | logout , login again and then start a new shell |
00:22.05 | gnarface | might even have to restart the graphical login manager, if there is one, come to think of it |
00:25.17 | AlexLikeRock | ok, closed X ..... |
00:25.20 | AlexLikeRock | i will back |
00:26.14 | fromport | you haven't seen the terminator enough times ;-) |
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00:28.34 | AlexLikeRock | im back |
00:28.43 | AlexLikeRock | istill faill |
00:28.46 | AlexLikeRock | <PROTECTED> |
00:29.38 | fromport | that seems very drastic |
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00:41.01 | AlexLikeRock | hi |
00:41.04 | AlexLikeRock | <PROTECTED> |
00:41.08 | AlexLikeRock | <PROTECTED> |
00:41.36 | fromport | i give up, i don't know/understand what you are trying to do/achieve |
00:43.21 | AlexLikeRock | fromport, http://picpaste.com/pics/4-kCi5gDyb.1508287390.png |
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00:45.06 | fromport | can you please paste here (no screenshot) the output of: locale -a |
00:46.13 | AlexLikeRock | yes |
00:46.34 | AlexLikeRock | # locale -a |
00:46.35 | AlexLikeRock | locale: Cannot set LC_CTYPE to default locale: No such file or directory |
00:46.35 | AlexLikeRock | locale: Cannot set LC_MESSAGES to default locale: No such file or directory |
00:46.35 | AlexLikeRock | locale: Cannot set LC_COLLATE to default locale: No such file or directory |
00:46.35 | AlexLikeRock | C |
00:46.35 | AlexLikeRock | C.UTF-8 |
00:46.37 | AlexLikeRock | POSIX |
00:46.39 | AlexLikeRock | en_US |
00:46.41 | AlexLikeRock | en_US.iso88591 |
00:46.43 | AlexLikeRock | en_US.iso885915 |
00:46.45 | AlexLikeRock | en_US.utf8 |
00:46.47 | AlexLikeRock | es_ES |
00:46.49 | AlexLikeRock | es_ES.iso88591 |
00:46.51 | AlexLikeRock | es_ES.iso885915@euro |
00:46.53 | AlexLikeRock | es_ES.utf8 |
00:46.55 | AlexLikeRock | es_ES@euro |
00:46.57 | AlexLikeRock | spanish |
00:47.55 | fromport | cat /etc/default/locale |
00:50.26 | AlexLikeRock | # cat /etc/default/locale |
00:50.26 | AlexLikeRock | LANG=en_US.UTF-8 |
00:51.20 | AlexLikeRock | this error i make , when at boot "live-cd" say: " press TAB to change LOCALES" |
00:51.45 | AlexLikeRock | i press tab, and write wrong |
01:12.05 | fromport | so you know what you are doing wrong and how to make it right ? |
01:12.42 | AlexLikeRock | they was an accident |
01:13.03 | fromport | is it working now ? |
01:13.49 | AlexLikeRock | terminal , yes |
01:13.59 | AlexLikeRock | phytom script = no |
01:20.22 | fromport | is the python script part of devuan ? |
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01:50.58 | fsmithred | AlexLikeRock come back! |
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01:51.17 | fsmithred | cool! |
01:51.35 | AlexLikeRock | what its cool ? |
01:51.37 | AlexLikeRock | :-/ |
01:51.38 | fsmithred | look in /etc/profile.d/ |
01:51.50 | fsmithred | that you came back right after I told you to come back |
01:52.19 | fsmithred | I think the file name is tt_locale.sh or something like that |
01:52.32 | fsmithred | that's the one you need to edit |
01:53.26 | AlexLikeRock | # cat locales.sh |
01:53.27 | AlexLikeRock | export LANG=C |
01:53.27 | AlexLikeRock | export LC_ALL=C |
01:53.45 | fsmithred | oh, only that file? |
01:53.48 | AlexLikeRock | found! |
01:53.59 | AlexLikeRock | # cat zz_locale.sh |
01:53.59 | AlexLikeRock | export LANG=es_es.utf8F-8 |
01:53.59 | AlexLikeRock | export LC_ALL=es_es.utf8F-8 |
01:53.59 | AlexLikeRock | <PROTECTED> |
01:54.07 | fsmithred | yeah, that's it |
01:54.12 | fsmithred | fix that |
01:54.26 | AlexLikeRock | U-R ROCK fsmithred ! |
01:54.27 | fsmithred | and there was some reason why I changed it from zz to tt |
01:54.29 | AlexLikeRock | tanks alot |
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02:00.38 | fsmithred | oh yeah, if you don't use a display manager on a live-cd, there's a zz-live-config.sh, and the locale script needs to run first. |
02:01.46 | AlexLikeRock | edit it :-) |
02:02.01 | AlexLikeRock | i will finish my work, and restart X |
02:02.10 | fsmithred | ok |
02:11.41 | AlexLikeRock | lol |
02:12.23 | AlexLikeRock | what a contradictory |
02:12.26 | AlexLikeRock | : |
02:12.32 | fsmithred | ? |
02:12.35 | AlexLikeRock | # grub-install /dev/sda |
02:12.35 | AlexLikeRock | Installing for i386-pc platform. |
02:12.35 | AlexLikeRock | device node not found |
02:12.40 | AlexLikeRock | device node not found |
02:12.54 | fsmithred | once would have been enough |
02:12.56 | AlexLikeRock | device node not found |
02:13.02 | AlexLikeRock | Installation finished. No error reported. |
02:13.04 | AlexLikeRock | ¬_¬ ... no error ! |
02:13.17 | fsmithred | does it boot? |
02:13.44 | AlexLikeRock | yes im fixin GRUB |
02:13.56 | AlexLikeRock | no so hard problem , i can make :) |
02:14.55 | fsmithred | what was the problem? |
02:15.28 | AlexLikeRock | reinstalling grub... |
02:15.56 | fsmithred | to get it to use your locale? |
02:16.26 | AlexLikeRock | locale. need reboot X |
02:17.28 | fsmithred | there's a way to get grub to use your locale, too |
02:18.02 | AlexLikeRock | :-( |
02:18.14 | AlexLikeRock | i make CHroot |
02:19.22 | AlexLikeRock | Cannot find list of partitions! (Try mounting /sys.) |
02:19.23 | AlexLikeRock | done |
02:19.59 | fsmithred | sys proc and dev |
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02:20.16 | AlexLikeRock | yes, i forget :-> |
02:20.26 | AlexLikeRock | they finish |
02:20.33 | AlexLikeRock | <PROTECTED> |
02:20.54 | fsmithred | to install grub in chroot, yeah |
02:21.25 | AlexLikeRock | mmmmm |
02:21.28 | AlexLikeRock | fine |
02:21.57 | fsmithred | mount --bind /sys /mnt/sys |
02:22.07 | fsmithred | same for /proc and /dev |
02:22.08 | AlexLikeRock | yes |
02:22.12 | AlexLikeRock | working .. |
02:22.36 | AlexLikeRock | yes, dev and proc i do |
02:23.21 | AlexLikeRock | exit 1 |
02:23.24 | AlexLikeRock | i will back |
02:23.32 | fsmithred | ok |
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02:24.34 | AlexLikeRock | cool |
02:24.43 | AlexLikeRock | <PROTECTED> |
02:24.43 | fsmithred | all better? |
02:24.51 | fsmithred | good |
02:24.54 | AlexLikeRock | :) |
02:25.07 | AlexLikeRock | one beer to fsmithred :-P |
02:25.14 | fsmithred | thanks |
02:27.06 | AlexLikeRock | what MEDIA PLAYER can "play " "playlist"? |
02:27.23 | fsmithred | I think most of them can |
02:27.46 | AlexLikeRock | vlc , just play one video, not all |
02:27.48 | fsmithred | I forget what's in the desktop-live |
02:27.53 | fsmithred | I use audacious |
02:27.54 | AlexLikeRock | vlc need "extensions" |
02:28.26 | AlexLikeRock | to play playlis of YOUTUBE |
02:28.29 | AlexLikeRock | sorry, |
02:28.35 | AlexLikeRock | <PROTECTED> |
02:28.38 | AlexLikeRock | my fall |
02:29.22 | fsmithred | I don't know |
02:30.03 | AlexLikeRock | a year ago i make with VLC+Extension |
02:34.46 | AlexLikeRock | one more beer to fsmithred |
02:34.53 | AlexLikeRock | . |
02:34.54 | AlexLikeRock | # grub-install /dev/sda |
02:34.54 | AlexLikeRock | Installing for i386-pc platform. |
02:34.54 | AlexLikeRock | Installation finished. No error reported. |
02:35.07 | AlexLikeRock | done my fryend ! |
02:35.09 | fsmithred | :) |
02:36.07 | AlexLikeRock | you come decided to drunk tonight :-D |
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03:01.07 | ServiceRobot | ello govnas |
03:01.32 | ServiceRobot | is anyone here? |
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03:02.32 | furrywolf | now that's some hard-core patience there. |
03:03.26 | rrq | was spun into deep existential reflection. |
03:05.18 | ServiceRobot | are other init systems beside openrc available for devuan? |
03:05.34 | ServiceRobot | I'm really interested in s6 |
03:09.19 | rrq | sounds good. go for it. tell us how it went. |
03:10.12 | fsmithred | I think some people on the dng mailing list are using it. You can search for discussions. |
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03:10.47 | ServiceRobot | yes, but I'm asking if it's available in the repositories, or if I can add a repo that has it |
03:11.48 | fsmithred | N: Unable to locate package s6 |
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03:22.16 | ServiceRobot | well that's a shame. I wonder why there's no repo I can get it from |
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03:38.33 | Evilham | I'm having an issue upgrading debian jessie to devuan jessie, will check it better after sleeping but it'd be useful if someone can check if that's working OK |
03:41.12 | Evilham | basically dist-upgrade is failing because it tries to remove systemd |
03:42.56 | rrq | you mean "when" rather than "because" I guess |
03:43.08 | Evilham | both :-D |
03:44.08 | Evilham | afaik, it should just install and setup sysvint leave systemd alone, and after reboot, manually remove |
03:44.33 | rrq | I might have an hour; I'll need to fluff up a debian VM first; standard iso? particular DE? |
03:44.59 | Evilham | mmm good question, I think it's a custom one, can't quite get it though |
03:45.01 | Evilham | it's from a provider |
03:45.13 | Evilham | but this was working fine a few weeks ago :-D |
03:45.31 | rrq | famous last words TM |
03:46.04 | Evilham | ^^ |
03:47.44 | rrq | aren't you supposed to go sysvinit first, then to devuan? (just parroting words of no depth) |
03:48.13 | Evilham | this is how 've always done it https://devuan.org/os/debian-fork/stable-jessie-announce-052517 |
03:50.25 | rrq | (hmm downloading a debian netinst will take most of my hour:() |
03:53.16 | Evilham | nevermind... it looks like whatever was working (tm) a couple weeks ago does not work any more BUT: I managed to test that debian --> devuan works fine |
03:53.22 | Evilham | sth is wrong on my side, mb |
03:53.33 | Evilham | should have just gone to bed :-D |
03:53.57 | Evilham | thank you anyway, rrq! |
03:58.51 | Evilham | *off to sleep a bit* |
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04:56.20 | golinux | <rrq> aren't you supposed to go sysvinit first, then to devuan? |
04:56.39 | golinux | That was always my understanding of the process. |
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05:48.01 | jonadab | I've only ever done the upgrade from wheezy to (devuan) jessie. |
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05:48.17 | jonadab | Or else direct installs. |
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12:09.21 | cosurgi | Question: is there a graph with number of release-critical bugs for next relese? |
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14:28.21 | cosurgi | Question: is there a graph with number of release-critical bugs for next relese? |
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15:08.34 | golinux | cosurgi: Maybe this would help? https://bugs.devuan.org/Access.html |
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15:30.42 | cosurgi | golinux: thanks! |
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19:10.41 | DPA | Is there a copy somewhere from debians old policy for /etc/default/, before they removed it? |
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19:15.27 | gnarface | hmmm |
19:15.44 | gnarface | DPA: i don't see it in the FHS but it's mentioned here in the maintenance guide: https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/maint-guide/dother.en.html#initd |
19:16.27 | gnarface | basically just that /etc/default/[package] is sourced by /etc/init.d/[package] for default variables |
19:16.58 | gnarface | it's handy but lots of stuff never bothers with it |
19:17.10 | gnarface | it never seemed strictly enforced |
19:20.13 | gnarface | and since grub is in there too, it suggests it's been allowed for non-daemon purposes, too |
19:21.36 | DPA | I know, but I thought there used to be a page somewhere which specified what such files should contain, that they should only set variables but not export them, etc. |
19:23.51 | gnarface | hmm. well if it wasn't the FHS or the maintenance guide, i don't know what it was |
19:24.15 | gnarface | it could be somewhere else in the maintenance guide, i didn't really check thoroughly |
19:24.44 | DPA | ok, thanks. |
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19:25.19 | gnarface | (https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/maint-guide/) |
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19:25.53 | gnarface | (https://www.debian.org/doc/packaging-manuals/fhs/fhs-2.3.html) |
19:27.40 | gnarface | the maintainer's guide is supposed to be the primary entry point for learning packaging, so i'd expect that's where it's supposed to be, even if it's not |
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19:42.56 | DPA | I found it, it was still there: https://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ |
19:45.13 | gnarface | oh i didn't know about this one at all |
19:45.15 | gnarface | good find |
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