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00:07.06holladoes someone (know how to) use linphone under jessie? - i can make and receive calls but hear no sound at all. tried all possible values: alsa: default device / alsa: hda intel / pulseaudio: default
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02:00.32dvn-holla: Do you know if sound is working what-so-ever?
02:00.46dvn-Can any other programs play sound?
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02:17.09holladvn-: it works with every other program
02:17.38hollaand i've turned up anything in alsamixer + disabled automute
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08:09.57DocScrutinizer05nuke PA, try twinklephone? ;-)
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10:06.24DocScrutinizer05holla: maybe try alsa: plughw
10:07.35DocScrutinizer05helpful: aplay -vv some.wav;    aplay -L
10:07.43DocScrutinizer05aplay -l
10:09.49DocScrutinizer05http://paste.opensuse.org/43431913
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10:21.47DocScrutinizer05odds are you got Intel HDA which (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_High_Definition_Audio)  sipports >>Up to 15 input and 15 output streams, Up to 16 PCM audio channels per stream<<
10:22.03DocScrutinizer05supports*
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12:11.49FlibberTGibbetAntoFox, loving the Cinnamon repo.
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12:31.09AntoFox:D
12:31.12FerviDevuan Ceres is "stable"? (I mean not like Jessie, but it works usually ok?)
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12:32.32gnarfacefunctional for the most part
12:32.42gnarfacei'm not having any big problems with it
12:32.47fsmithredFervi, you might be limited in what you can install
12:33.08gnarface(it does work fine with Steam though)
12:33.34FerviYhm, ok. Any news about beowulf? 2018?
12:34.35fsmithredI believe amprolla3 will be working very soon, and then we can have a beowulf repo. I don't know if those things will happen at the same time or not.
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12:37.21fsmithredlooks like /dists is already in place, but /pool needs to be added, and no beowulf yet.
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14:57.23alexlikerockmornin gnus
15:07.00alexlikerockrecommendations to irc at android?
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15:14.57fromportwhat does that have to do with devuan
15:15.54telst4rbaybe he wants to run devuan on android
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15:21.54fromportthat would be impressive ;-)
15:26.21telst4rhmm.. since I can Debian on n900....
15:28.15fromporti still have one of those! with the external gps unit ;-)
15:30.43telst4rI needed a new battery for mine. Ext gps? wow.
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15:31.28fromporti haven't used mine in years, my battery is probably shot too
15:33.05fromportsorry, i have an n800
15:33.50fromportn900 has integrated gps
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15:59.30sixwheeledbeastnew batteries for N900 are available from polarcell/wannsee
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16:04.52drawkula. o O ( o/ ____( n900 ) )
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18:28.09DPAI remember there was somethin that had to be done to get startx to work ad normal user in ascii, but I forgot what it was
18:28.25DPA*as
18:30.03gnarfaceadd yourself to the video group
18:30.20DPAI've already done that
18:30.22fsmithredecho "needs_root_rights=yes" >> /etc/X11/Xwrapper.sh
18:30.43fsmithredI think it's needs and not need, but I can't check right now.
18:30.49fsmithredor maybe I can...
18:31.42gnarfaceis it actually /etc/X11/Xwrapper.config
18:31.43fsmithredWAIT
18:31.44gnarface?
18:31.48fsmithredoh good
18:32.12fsmithredbut yeah, needs
18:32.29gnarfacehmmm.  allowed_users=console?
18:32.30fsmithredI thought I only put one >, hence the panic
18:32.39fsmithredyou can leave that there
18:32.56fsmithredoh, you have to install xserver-xorg-legacy to get that file
18:32.56DPAThanks, that worked.
18:33.37fsmithredwhat I'd like to know is if you don't run the xserver as root, what parts don't run as root?
18:34.18fsmithredI couldn't tell the difference between doing that (what you just did) and using a display manager to run without giving root rights
18:34.36fsmithredstill was running X as root
18:35.01fsmithred"tell the diff" means looking at who owned processes
18:35.26DPAIt's the modsetting. A lazy root check in the kernel driver of the intel dri device. On systemd systems, systemd does the drmSetMaster call.
18:37.09fsmithredso the only way to not "run X as root" is to use systemd?
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18:40.35gnarfacecan't you still run it as a normal user, and not setuid as long as you're not using DRM?
18:40.43gnarfaceDRM/DRI/Nvidia
18:40.57DPAI found this: http://debian.2.n7.nabble.com/Bug-833182-xserver-xorg-core-regression-on-Intel-HD-Graphics-drmSetMaster-Permission-denied-td3901124.html
18:41.22DPAAnd this:
18:41.22DPAhttps://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/debian-26/drmsetmaster-failed-permission-denied-4175588906/
18:41.36DPABut Yes and Yes.
18:42.12DPAIntel devices also offer a framebuffer, so vesa and fbdev should work.
18:42.43DPABut then OpenGL and 3d Acceleration wouldn't be usable.
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18:54.50fsmithredThere's a reply to that first one if you go here: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=833182
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