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| 14:02.05 | fChanX | Hello :) |
| 14:02.32 | fChanX | Do I need jre and jdk installed to have Devuan be usable? |
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| 14:04.42 | gnarface | depends on what you want to use fChanX |
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| 14:07.14 | fChanX | I don't want to play minecraft. :p |
| 14:07.33 | fChanX | I was wondering if it needed for the system it's self. |
| 14:09.22 | gnarface | no, nothing at the OS level uses it |
| 14:09.32 | gnarface | not as far as i know anyway |
| 14:09.54 | gnarface | it's part of a lot of default installs just because libreoffice uses it |
| 14:10.07 | gnarface | it's required for libreoffice, and if present, firefox will also use it |
| 14:10.39 | fChanX | I am sure that I have used firefox without it though. :/ |
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| 14:10.54 | fChanX | I am in the process of removing libreoffice. :P |
| 14:11.00 | gnarface | yea, it's not required for firefox, it's just a plugin. off the top of my head i'm not sure what else, but it would be easy to avoid if you started with custom install |
| 14:11.43 | gnarface | without it, firefox will no longer be able to render java applets, but they're more and more rare in the wild lately |
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| 14:21.16 | fChanX | Sorry, terminal emulator crashed. |
| 14:21.25 | fChanX | Thanks for the help. :) |
| 14:21.47 | fChanX | All jre and jdk things seem to be gone upon removing libreoffice. |
| 14:30.11 | gnarface | no problem |
| 14:30.32 | fChanX | I am glad that you are still there to thank. :D |
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| 16:33.59 | fChanX | Sounds serious? |
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| 16:50.09 | armin | o/ |
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| 17:01.01 | blap | huhu |
| 17:01.57 | fChanX | o/ |
| 17:06.29 | blap | hullo fChanX |
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| 17:46.11 | matlock | Is there a one-line terminal command I could run that would, after sudo, do search and replace on /etc/apt/sources.list from default debian jessie to devuan jessie repos? |
| 17:46.42 | matlock | sudo sed probably, right? |
| 17:47.00 | blap | or you could write a file and cp over the old one |
| 17:47.07 | Lydia_K | Yes, you could use sed to search/replace the strings. |
| 17:47.23 | matlock | I am trying to be clever and do it one line blap |
| 17:47.31 | matlock | Lydia_K blap thank you |
| 17:48.36 | Lydia_K | example: sudo sed -e 's/debian.org\/debian/devuan.org\/devuan/' -i /etc/apt/sources.list |
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| 17:48.48 | Lydia_K | that's just an example though. |
| 17:49.06 | matlock | ah you beat me too it! thank you, I just need a brief example, clearly not everyone will have default sources.list |
| 17:49.07 | Lydia_K | and run it without -i to print out the results without actually making the changes to the file on disk |
| 17:49.29 | Lydia_K | that way you can make sure the results are what you want before you add -i to actually make the changes. |
| 17:57.35 | matlock | so it turns out part of my problem is bsd sed and gnu sed behave differently, wonderful |
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| 18:04.09 | Lydia_K | Ah, indeed they do. |
| 18:09.42 | Vizva | the repository have kde and krusader for example? |
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| 18:26.04 | matlock | kde 4, kde plasma is still being ported, some people have gotten plasma to run on devuan, gentoo, also seen on bsds |
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| 19:07.10 | guru | is the beowulf repo being maintained? |
| 19:07.22 | guru | i rather use that than ceres |
| 19:07.24 | guru | if it's more stable |
| 19:08.03 | golinux | guru: There isn't a beowulf repo available yet. |
| 19:08.08 | guru | oh |
| 19:08.21 | golinux | Hopefully soon |
| 19:08.58 | guru | all my i386 packages vanished again after i updated |
| 19:09.00 | guru | E: Package 'steam:i386' has no installation candidate |
| 19:09.11 | guru | i added arch i386 again but same message |
| 19:10.47 | guru | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:10.47 | guru | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:10.50 | guru | oh no i get this oh well |
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| 20:28.10 | ragdol1 | hi. I just bought TP-Link Archer T8E wireless card which has a broadcom chipset that requires wl driver |
| 20:28.23 | ragdol1 | unfortunately this driver is not part of the the default installation media |
| 20:28.27 | ragdol1 | what to do? |
| 20:29.40 | ragdol1 | (meanwhile I tried ubuntu, just for testing, and it also doesn't load this driver by default, but fortunately it ships with the deb packages for the wl driver and manual intervention solves the problem.) |
| 20:30.11 | greenjeans | well I guess you could install the correct driver? |
| 20:30.44 | ragdol1 | yes but it is not on the installation media (desktop-live/minimal-live/netinstall - the 3 I tried) |
| 20:31.50 | greenjeans | okay, but you're online now, can't you just grab the package? |
| 20:32.53 | ragdol1 | right now I am on windows. If you can point me to the location of deb package, that would be very helpful. |
| 20:33.53 | ragdol1 | right now i don't even know the package name. |
| 20:34.35 | greenjeans | ahh okay, hang tight, if somebody doesn't beat me to it i'll be back in a minute with info for ya |
| 20:37.56 | ragdol1 | thanks :) |
| 20:47.16 | ragdol1 | i think the package name is broadcom-sta. i have downloaded all the packages under pool/non-free/b/broadcom-sta. wish me luck. rebooting |
| 20:47.30 | greenjeans | so i'm not an expert and I don't have any machines that use Broadcom hardware, but i'm guessing what you need is firmware, not a driver? |
| 20:48.10 | greenjeans | okey-doke, that's the driver, good luck! |
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| 21:30.01 | Vizva | thx matlock |
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| 21:43.48 | greenjeans | Great how-to for getting started with Yad, perfect for VUU's writing their own scripts: http://www.thelinuxrain.com/articles/multiple-item-data-entry-with-yad |
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| 22:14.47 | Vizva | this is now the 7th time or so that i cannot install devuan.now it say failed to install packages and grub,to install dont work too |
| 22:15.21 | Vizva | the from to enable the dvd again it dont give a choice start again to insatll packages again |
| 22:15.24 | Vizva | then |
| 22:16.08 | fsmithred | Vizva, I had a thought about the grub commands I was giving you the other day |
| 22:16.20 | fsmithred | was that an encrypted root partition? |
| 22:17.04 | Vizva | iam not sure now but i think yes |
| 22:17.20 | Vizva | yes it was |
| 22:17.28 | fsmithred | then the linus line should look something like this: |
| 22:17.42 | fsmithred | linux /vmlinuz ro root=/dev/mapper/<name> |
| 22:18.05 | Vizva | oh yes |
| 22:18.22 | fsmithred | I was telling you to use root=/dev/sdXn |
| 22:18.28 | Vizva | but now i did buy new dvd and burn it check it |
| 22:18.36 | Vizva | no luck |
| 22:18.43 | Vizva | but its not the end now |
| 22:18.45 | fsmithred | what error? |
| 22:19.15 | Vizva | after install packages it did say that error come then i want to install grub - dont go |
| 22:19.34 | fsmithred | are you using zfs? |
| 22:19.35 | Vizva | then i try to load the dvd again - it then install packages again |
| 22:19.39 | Vizva | no |
| 22:19.42 | fsmithred | ok |
| 22:19.46 | Vizva | lvm encrypted |
| 22:19.54 | Vizva | very comon installation |
| 22:20.04 | fsmithred | yeah, this should work |
| 22:20.35 | fsmithred | I need to go away for a few minutes. Back in 10 |
| 22:20.50 | Vizva | ok |
| 22:21.56 | Vizva | installation failed |
| 22:23.00 | Vizva | the packet grub-pc could not go to /target/ |
| 22:24.35 | Vizva | i know why is that |
| 22:24.52 | Vizva | maybe it have some old bsd code in my target |
| 22:29.58 | fsmithred | bsd code at the beginning of the drive? |
| 22:30.52 | Vizva | maybe at the end? |
| 22:31.42 | Vizva | but no its only that iam confused |
| 22:32.26 | Vizva | i wait now the hours to overwrite with random |
| 22:32.48 | fsmithred | wow, ok. Do something else until tomorrow. |
| 22:32.55 | Vizva | i was think i dont need because this disk was luks before |
| 22:33.11 | Vizva | no its not about bsd |
| 22:33.43 | Vizva | yes i go sleep now :) |
| 22:33.43 | fsmithred | writing random is optional. Better security, but not necessary. |
| 22:34.07 | Vizva | but my installation failed |
| 22:34.16 | Vizva | i did never get a working devuan |
| 22:34.33 | Vizva | and my first debain was maybe around 1991 |
| 22:34.38 | fsmithred | try unencrypted install, take all defaults |
| 22:34.59 | fsmithred | if that works, then you can do a more complicated install |
| 22:35.33 | Vizva | i have encrypted before |
| 22:35.48 | fsmithred | on this hardware? |
| 22:36.12 | Vizva | same device not but same hardware |
| 22:36.29 | Vizva | i have 3 of this sticks and 1 half of the size |
| 22:36.45 | fsmithred | eliminate variables, then once it works, start adding variables |
| 22:37.36 | Vizva | i need encrypted |
| 22:37.47 | fsmithred | yes, and you should have it |
| 22:38.18 | fsmithred | I'm telling you a way to locate the problem |
| 22:38.26 | Vizva | if its not work the there is something with the iso |
| 22:38.39 | Vizva | or i have a intruder in my bios |
| 22:40.20 | fsmithred | or you have a motherboard that doesn't follow standards |
| 22:40.36 | fsmithred | or human error |
| 22:40.57 | Vizva | i have debian alot of time and this notebook i have many years |
| 22:40.58 | fsmithred | that's four things. I've had three of them. Not sure about the fourth (intruder). |
| 22:41.17 | fsmithred | oh, so you have installed on this hardware before? |
| 22:41.23 | Vizva | yes sure |
| 22:41.28 | Vizva | many systems |
| 22:41.30 | fsmithred | oh, ok. I thought it was new. |
| 22:41.36 | Vizva | openbsd freebsd debian |
| 22:42.13 | Vizva | netbsd |
| 22:42.40 | Vizva | and some variants of linux like arch and mint |
| 22:43.58 | fsmithred | ok, get some sleep |
| 22:44.36 | Vizva | :) yes |
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