| 00:00.03 | DocScrutinizer05 | there's !nosystemd to answer such questions |
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| 02:09.37 | gnarface | chanku: i think xchat went non-free and everyone switched to hexchat |
| 02:09.45 | gnarface | chanku: (it's mostly the same) |
| 02:10.41 | chanku | yeah |
| 02:10.53 | chanku | it's fine either way just need to figure out how to move my settings and stuff over to hexchat |
| 02:14.10 | golinux | What this about xchat? |
| 02:18.03 | chanku | upgrading to ASCII removed xchat from my system :| |
| 02:18.18 | chanku | (along with a few other things for some reason, but my upgrade to ASCII was screwed up anyway) |
| 02:18.34 | golinux | Why exactly? |
| 02:19.00 | blap | speaking of ascii, I made a new IRC painting - join ##ascii to see it |
| 02:21.34 | Xenguy | hexchat is a better choice than xchat anyway |
| 02:22.44 | fromport | added firefox nightly build (version 57) from ubuntu ppa to ceres, works great and even faster than chrome! |
| 02:23.19 | blap | sadly the fonts it uses can't do proper unicode block characters on windows hosts |
| 02:24.47 | blap | that's the last build that can be compiled with alsa? |
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| 02:41.26 | Xenguy | Not to mention that Chrome is basically Google spyware |
| 02:41.41 | Xenguy | Why so many people use it, I really have no idea |
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| 03:25.55 | gnarface | Stockholm Syndrome |
| 03:31.05 | fromport | Xenguy: because it is so fast/small mem footprint compared to older firefox. I am pleasantly surprised how efficient the new firefox is. I am switching, still waiting for latest version on android now ;-) |
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| 03:46.20 | fromport | it's nice it imports bookmarks/cookies/passwords etc from chrome |
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| 05:12.38 | bozonius | seems like we had this same convo some time back about "why chrome?" I remember someone saying "stockholm syndrome" and someone saying they are waiting on latest version for android. |
| 05:12.53 | bozonius | Maybe a couple weeks back or so? But it seems like deja vu to me. |
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| 11:43.51 | buZz | hmmm , i installed devuan on a pi3 , but the bundled gcc doesnt seem to be capable of using -mfpu= or -mfloat-abi= ? |
| 11:45.08 | parazyd | blame debian |
| 11:45.16 | parazyd | buZz: what are you trying? |
| 11:45.22 | buZz | what was amazing to me ; some cpuminer i tested on raspbian , is ~25% faster on aarch64 :O |
| 11:45.40 | buZz | parazyd: trying to get that miner compiled with NEON stuff :) |
| 11:46.06 | parazyd | try upgrading to ascii/gcc6 |
| 11:46.11 | buZz | alrighty |
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| 11:47.03 | buZz | still, 25% faster O_o this stuff is amazing |
| 11:47.16 | buZz | with same powerusage even (~600mA under full load) |
| 11:47.34 | parazyd | :) |
| 11:48.01 | parazyd | -mfpu=neon means marvell though, iirc |
| 11:48.21 | buZz | -mtune=cortex-a53 -mfpu=neon-vfpv4 -mfloat-abi=hard <-- |
| 11:48.21 | parazyd | that could make rpi out of the question |
| 11:48.25 | buZz | thats what i wanted to do |
| 11:48.38 | buZz | the -mtune is supported, the others arent |
| 11:48.43 | buZz | (and didnt make it faster) |
| 11:48.54 | parazyd | like, at all in gcc or just fails to compile? |
| 11:49.09 | buZz | gcc said -mfpu isnt supported |
| 11:49.15 | parazyd | lol |
| 11:49.19 | buZz | or unknown option |
| 11:49.27 | buZz | yeah , confusing :P they do work in raspbian |
| 11:49.29 | buZz | but w/e |
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| 11:51.36 | parazyd | buZz: is it c or c++ code? |
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| 11:52.04 | buZz | https://github.com/magi-project/m-cpuminer-v2 , its a messy mix of both |
| 11:52.34 | buZz | mostly C , according to github, though |
| 11:53.27 | parazyd | maybe export ARCH=arm64 |
| 11:53.42 | parazyd | if that and/or gcc6 don't help, then try getting a toolchain from linaro |
| 11:54.27 | buZz | welp, just need ~some fast config, then i'll cement it somewhere in my bedroom, constantly heating the room a tiny bit ^_^ |
| 11:58.37 | parazyd | this stuff |
| 11:58.38 | parazyd | https://releases.linaro.org/components/toolchain/binaries/latest/aarch64-elf/ |
| 12:01.30 | buZz | alright |
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| 12:35.38 | buZz | i'm guessing ascii upgrade will keep the same kernel on pi? |
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| 12:36.57 | buZz | *recompiling in ascii* |
| 12:38.13 | fsmithred | I would expect the kernel to stay the same if you don't have the kernel metapackage installed. (but I don't know pi or arm at all) |
| 12:38.33 | buZz | -march=native is now working |
| 12:38.47 | buZz | crosses fingers for higher speeds :P |
| 12:39.20 | buZz | !!!! ITS FASTER |
| 12:39.21 | buZz | \o |
| 12:39.24 | parazyd | :) |
| 12:39.25 | buZz | w00p |
| 12:39.42 | parazyd | gcc7 could be even better |
| 12:39.48 | parazyd | but that's going to have to wait for a while |
| 12:40.09 | buZz | so; raspbian 32bit = ~4.1khs , jessie 64bit = ~5.0khs , ascii 64bit = ~5.72 |
| 12:40.35 | buZz | lets see if i can add neon now |
| 12:42.24 | buZz | weird |
| 12:42.24 | buZz | gcc: error: unrecognized command line option '-mfpu=neon-vfpv4' |
| 12:46.20 | buZz | hmmz |
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| 12:46.31 | asbesto | yo there |
| 12:46.44 | buZz | https://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/gcc-6.3.0/gcc/ARM-Options.html#ARM-Options does suggest it exists, might the gcc 6.3 be compiled without floating point support or something? |
| 12:46.46 | asbesto | do any of you know what THE HELL is the apt mirror for installing devuan jessie? |
| 12:46.51 | asbesto | I got error during installation |
| 12:47.01 | asbesto | mirror does not support the specified release (jessie) |
| 12:47.02 | asbesto | :( |
| 12:47.05 | buZz | asbesto: omg, i was in similar situation recently |
| 12:47.10 | buZz | we werent able to pinpoint it |
| 12:47.12 | parazyd | RIP |
| 12:47.16 | asbesto | what? |
| 12:47.18 | asbesto | O_o |
| 12:47.22 | buZz | i ended up just installing from CD1 |
| 12:47.29 | buZz | instead of netinst |
| 12:47.40 | asbesto | is there some USB installer that I can use? |
| 12:47.41 | buZz | asbesto: which networkcard is in your system? |
| 12:47.44 | buZz | yes |
| 12:47.51 | asbesto | I dunno, I'm via ethernet |
| 12:48.02 | buZz | i ended up using ; https://mirror.leaseweb.com/devuan/devuan_jessie/installer-iso/devuan_jessie_1.0.0_amd64_CD.iso |
| 12:48.03 | asbesto | masquerading thru cellular phone |
| 12:48.07 | fsmithred | deb http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/merged/ jessie main |
| 12:48.23 | buZz | asbesto: i wonder if you might have this ; |
| 12:48.24 | buZz | 03:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller (rev 0c) |
| 12:48.43 | asbesto | it doesn't work, Buzz |
| 12:48.51 | buZz | asbesto: what doesnt? |
| 12:48.57 | asbesto | I got the same error |
| 12:49.10 | buZz | from what |
| 12:49.20 | asbesto | from the mirror you gave me |
| 12:49.27 | buZz | i gave a link to a .iso |
| 12:49.34 | asbesto | oops, not you - fsmithred, sorry :D |
| 12:49.41 | buZz | ^_^ |
| 12:49.49 | asbesto | so from that .iso can I create an usb bootable key? |
| 12:49.52 | asbesto | will try it |
| 12:49.54 | buZz | asbesto: could you check lspci? |
| 12:50.02 | asbesto | damn, 600 mb to download via cellular phone :( |
| 12:50.04 | buZz | i just wanna know if your ethernet card is the same |
| 12:50.06 | fsmithred | see if you have the evil controller |
| 12:50.09 | buZz | asbesto: oh |
| 12:50.16 | buZz | you -can- just use the netinst image |
| 12:50.25 | buZz | and just ignore the failure of mirror, continue installing |
| 12:50.40 | asbesto | yep but after that I have nothing here, just command line |
| 12:50.41 | buZz | you'll get a very minimal install, but still able to install stuff from that |
| 12:50.42 | asbesto | :9 |
| 12:50.44 | buZz | yeah |
| 12:50.48 | asbesto | ok, will try that |
| 12:51.11 | fsmithred | if you want a full desktop without network, use DVD, not CD |
| 12:51.27 | fsmithred | without mirror, I mean |
| 12:51.28 | buZz | apt install slim xorg fluxbox ; reboot |
| 12:51.30 | buZz | :P |
| 12:51.38 | buZz | ^ full desktop to me ;) |
| 12:51.47 | fsmithred | no xterm? |
| 12:51.53 | buZz | fluxbox will pull it in |
| 12:51.55 | asbesto | ok, continue without mirror, will see... |
| 12:51.59 | asbesto | fluxbox! wow |
| 12:52.10 | asbesto | but we're not back in 1970. I want something useful :D |
| 12:52.11 | buZz | asbesto: you will need to add fsmithred's line once you finish installation |
| 12:52.15 | asbesto | mate will fit me :) |
| 12:52.16 | buZz | we arent? |
| 12:52.18 | buZz | :P |
| 12:52.21 | asbesto | hahahahahaha lol |
| 12:52.24 | asbesto | <3 |
| 12:52.25 | buZz | just supplement what you need ;) |
| 12:52.35 | asbesto | yeo |
| 12:52.36 | asbesto | yep |
| 12:52.37 | asbesto | wilco. |
| 12:52.46 | buZz | one i saved for new installs on which i need to dev |
| 12:52.47 | buZz | apt-get install build-essential libtool autotools-dev automake pkg-config libssl-dev libevent-dev bsdmainutils libboost-system-dev libboost-filesystem-dev libboost-chrono-dev libboost-program-options-dev libboost-test-dev libboost-thread-dev libminiupnpc-dev libzmq3-dev libgmp-dev git screen ca-certificates |
| 12:52.53 | buZz | :) |
| 12:52.53 | asbesto | yeah |
| 12:53.05 | asbesto | and also mc, joe, wireshark, kismet ;) |
| 12:53.16 | buZz | :) |
| 12:53.17 | asbesto | (yes, I'm using joe as editor! hahahaha) |
| 12:53.24 | buZz | not even mcedit? :D |
| 12:53.40 | asbesto | used to Wordstar 3.40 command keys ;) |
| 12:53.49 | buZz | 14:52:10 < asbesto> but we're not back in 1970. I want something useful :D |
| 12:53.50 | asbesto | (old guy here) |
| 12:53.52 | buZz | right right |
| 12:53.58 | buZz | :D |
| 12:54.01 | asbesto | hahahahahhaah you got me |
| 12:54.10 | fsmithred | the other end of that axis is "apt-get install task-mate-desktop" |
| 12:57.18 | buZz | OH |
| 12:57.19 | buZz | Advanced SIMD (aka NEON) is mandatory for AArch64, so no command line option is needed to instruct the compiler to use NEON. |
| 12:57.23 | buZz | If you want to enable auto vectorization optimisations so that the compiler automatically uses NEON instructions, then compile with -O3 or -O2 -ftree-vectorize. |
| 12:57.26 | buZz | \o stackoverflow to teh rescue |
| 13:00.29 | parazyd | nice |
| 13:01.14 | buZz | heh, actually makes it slower to do -ftree-vectorize |
| 13:01.16 | buZz | right |
| 13:01.16 | buZz | :D |
| 13:02.12 | asbesto | can't find that apt mirror btw :( |
| 13:02.25 | asbesto | <fsmithred> deb http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/merged/ jessie main |
| 13:02.29 | asbesto | :( |
| 13:02.52 | fsmithred | that should find the nearest mirror |
| 13:02.59 | asbesto | 404 not found |
| 13:03.01 | asbesto | :/ |
| 13:03.59 | fsmithred | checking to see if it works here |
| 13:04.10 | buZz | works here |
| 13:04.17 | buZz | (in browser) |
| 13:05.01 | fsmithred | apt-get update works here |
| 13:05.16 | fsmithred | bad dns? |
| 13:05.35 | asbesto | 8.8.8.8 |
| 13:05.44 | fsmithred | I might be using the same |
| 13:06.57 | fsmithred | I am |
| 13:07.11 | buZz | hmm, -Ofast instead of -O3 is ~0.5% faster :P |
| 13:07.20 | asbesto | my bad! |
| 13:07.26 | asbesto | i wrote jesse instead of jessie |
| 13:07.34 | fsmithred | oops |
| 13:07.47 | asbesto | *:) |
| 13:08.08 | buZz | :D |
| 13:08.13 | asbesto | lol |
| 13:08.14 | asbesto | sorry :D |
| 13:11.46 | buZz | thou art forgiven |
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| 13:35.02 | nailyk | hi. Am on the official devuan.org but cannot find netinstall download links for ascii. Can someone point me the right place please? |
| 13:38.49 | buZz | nailyk: there arent any yet, as far as i know |
| 13:39.27 | nailyk | oh ok. |
| 13:39.38 | nailyk | So only way is to install jessie then upgrade? |
| 13:39.45 | buZz | afaik, yes |
| 13:40.12 | fsmithred | you could use one of these: (i386 only for now) https://sourceforge.net/projects/refracta/files/testing/ |
| 13:40.25 | fsmithred | s/one of these/this/ |
| 13:41.06 | buZz | hmm, seems upgrading to ascii made wifi disappear on pi3 :) |
| 13:41.20 | fsmithred | new firmware needed for new kernel? |
| 13:41.33 | buZz | but its the same kernel .. not sure |
| 13:42.00 | fsmithred | did the firmware upgrade but not the kernel? |
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| 13:42.25 | nailyk | and debian-installer not present here http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/devuan/dists/ascii/main/ |
| 13:42.53 | fsmithred | right. not yet. |
| 13:43.10 | nailyk | ok will try the nox one. |
| 13:43.29 | nailyk | Will be a small VM for VPN purpose so will probably be fine. Thanks :) |
| 13:43.37 | fsmithred | it's standard system install plus extra utilities |
| 13:44.04 | fsmithred | and a few minor tweaks |
| 13:44.23 | fsmithred | login:passwords are root:root and user:user |
| 13:44.45 | fsmithred | install by running refractainstaller |
| 13:45.51 | fsmithred | I have to go outside. Will check back here in a bit. |
| 13:47.49 | nailyk | mhhh but looks like it is another distro based on devuan |
| 13:50.01 | buZz | ah, no , was looking for wrong module ;) |
| 13:50.04 | buZz | the right one is brcmfmac |
| 13:50.18 | nailyk | ok no idea how it works, will try with debootstrap |
| 14:01.10 | buZz | wlan0 no wireless extensions. |
| 14:01.12 | buZz | weird :P |
| 14:04.04 | buZz | ah, not weird, nmind |
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| 14:12.54 | buZz | kinda annoying without wext , which cli wifi tools can i use beside 'iw' ? :D |
| 14:20.16 | nailyk | wicd ? |
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| 14:28.30 | buZz | wicd's nl80211 driver seems to crash the ncurses interface :( |
| 14:28.44 | buZz | wpa_supplicant did work |
| 14:28.58 | buZz | rfkill didnt disable by default though, added it to rc.local |
| 14:33.07 | nailyk | mhhh. with the new deboostraped ascii install cannot install packages because of missing libjson & liblognorm packages. |
| 14:33.19 | nailyk | Is something going wrong on the install ? |
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| 14:38.49 | nailyk | ok look slike it is a known issue https://git.devuan.org/devuan-packages/rsyslog/issues/3 |
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| 14:44.09 | nailyk | gaves up |
| 14:48.03 | fromport | nailyk: i am running ceres on my desktop and <kockwood> everything has been working so far. |
| 14:48.10 | fromport | knockwood |
| 14:48.52 | nailyk | interresting |
| 14:48.59 | nailyk | can you paste me your source.list please ? |
| 14:52.17 | fromport | https://pastebin.com/8a7nWTLy i added a lot of personal stuff i use ;-) |
| 14:55.21 | nailyk | mhh except non-free I had almost the same |
| 14:55.25 | nailyk | thanks |
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| 15:09.12 | AlexLikeRock | !es |
| 15:09.12 | infobot | i heard es is Para los usuarios devuan de habla hispana que requieren la ayuda, ensamble por favor el canal del #devuan-mx -- Spanish-speaking devuan users requiring support, please join #devuan-mx |
| 15:09.24 | AlexLikeRock | :) |
| 15:10.00 | fromport | why not #devuan-es ? ;-) |
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| 15:20.24 | AlexLikeRock | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:20.52 | fromport | :-( |
| 15:21.07 | AlexLikeRock | you can go to www-devuan-mx.org we have |
| 15:21.10 | AlexLikeRock | :) |
| 15:21.31 | fromport | i speak 4 languages but not spanish, sorry ;-) |
| 15:22.05 | fromport | because it is latin based, i recognise a lot of the words though ;-) |
| 15:22.12 | AlexLikeRock | if you habe a friend spaking spanish , tell about :) |
| 15:22.27 | AlexLikeRock | yeah, latin its the BASE |
| 15:22.37 | AlexLikeRock | to maniy languages |
| 15:22.44 | AlexLikeRock | many * |
| 15:23.22 | fromport | i think everytbody should learn portuguse, if you understand that, spanish/french etc are easy ;-) |
| 15:23.36 | fromport | portugese |
| 15:24.05 | AlexLikeRock | yes, i got it at DUOLINGO |
| 15:24.22 | AlexLikeRock | and GERMANY |
| 15:24.24 | AlexLikeRock | :) |
| 15:35.42 | buZz | wonder if a pi2 would see similar speed advantages from devuan ascii |
| 15:35.46 | buZz | hm :) |
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| 15:41.54 | buZz | 4.55 on raspbian as reference (actually faster than the pi3 with raspbian O_o) |
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| 15:59.36 | msiism | fsmithred: in those refracta scripts you showed me two days ago, where you let it search for text editors, what is the command you use for opening a new instance of medit again? |
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| 16:15.53 | msiism | fsmithred: ok, don't mind, it's alright. i suspected, you were using "medit -i", but it's gotta be "medit -n", which is being used. |
| 16:18.42 | golinux | msiism: You don't have a nash history? |
| 16:18.53 | golinux | oops bash |
| 16:19.15 | msiism | i do |
| 16:19.27 | msiism | but i din't enter the command |
| 16:19.55 | msiism | i just wanted to make sure, it is correct in the script, which it is. |
| 16:20.15 | msiism | (couldn't find the script at first) |
| 16:22.09 | msiism | bbl |
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| 16:42.45 | user42 | Hi, i've tried to installed devuan on a HP 250 G5 from a dvd-iso image burned on a dvd. Everything goes fine until the grub installation, there comes: " Unable to configure GRUB Executing 'update-grub' failed. This is a fatal error. " Does somebody know whats the problem? |
| 16:47.50 | telst4r | that error tells only something going wrong with grub. Try switching to a different terminal (alt+ctrl+F1...8) and look for more specific error. I think devuan-installer dumps messages to one of those terminals. also take a look on dmesg |
| 16:48.55 | fromport | is htat HP 250 G5 a (u)efi machine ? |
| 16:50.16 | user42 | going to try that. Im not sure win10 and efi partitions where there, but i deleted them and switched to legacy mode in the bios. I dont know mich about uefi |
| 16:53.22 | golinux | fsmithred sends folks to: http://www.rodsbooks.com/ |
| 16:53.50 | telst4r | yea I think (u)efi is where something went wrong. how ever it's probably possible to still fix it in the devuan installer by redoing boot loader setup again |
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| 16:56.58 | user42 | ok, does that mean i need a efi partition? i just have a boot and encrypted home & swap partition |
| 16:59.45 | telst4r | don't know |
| 17:06.32 | fromport | you can choose either: or you could use efi, or not. but in case of non-efi usage, you need to wipe the beginning of the HD with zero's before the install to hide the previous efi setup |
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| 17:09.58 | nailyk | Is there a known problem with ipv6 speed ? |
| 17:10.18 | AlexLikeRock | welll, its time to migrate my server with MYSQL |
| 17:10.50 | AlexLikeRock | nial all wolrd have internet problems now , bye weather :-/ |
| 17:15.33 | fromport | nailyk: that that I know of. Just checked on my ceres desktop, connected to TWC cable modem with ipv6 enabled: http://www2.dth.net/pmt/ipv46speedtest.png |
| 17:16.01 | nailyk | really weird |
| 17:16.03 | nailyk | https://paste.debian.net/987424/ |
| 17:16.23 | nailyk | indeed while I was directly connected I had no problem |
| 17:17.08 | nailyk | the log file on paste.debian is download ipv4/ipv6 from an OVH box, then doing the same with tsocks ipv4 connected to that same box |
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| 17:17.34 | fromport | my speed is reduced when I do the same command you used: 2017-09-23 10:16:53 (13.1 MB/s) - â/dev/nullâ saved [104857600/104857600] |
| 17:17.54 | nailyk | really interresting. So could be a wget issue? |
| 17:18.39 | glk70 | Hi folks. I need some help on debian working as router in a simple lan. I have 4 router (192.168.25[1-4].254), and a debian box with 4 virtual interfaces (192.168.25[1-4].1) |
| 17:19.06 | glk70 | its ETH0 has address 172.16.1.222/16 |
| 17:19.11 | fromport | nailyk: i think the server where you get it from is congested ;-) |
| 17:19.56 | glk70 | I want clients from net 172.16.0.0/16 be able to use the four routers as gateway. but from clients I can ping 192.168.254.1, but NOT 192.168.254.254 |
| 17:20.07 | glk70 | can somebody please help me ? |
| 17:20.28 | fromport | glk70: this is not the right channel for that to be honest |
| 17:20.33 | nailyk | fromport: don't think so. But multiples proplems indeed. Downloading with firefox through the proxy (OVH box give a download speed at 6MB too) |
| 17:21.31 | blinkdog | glk70: I would help, but already I'm out of my depth just trying to understand your problem description |
| 17:21.44 | glk70 | fromport: sorry. which one would be ? |
| 17:22.02 | nailyk | glk70: is 192.168.254.254 on the router ? |
| 17:22.12 | glk70 | hmm I'l try to make myself understod |
| 17:22.16 | fromport | glk70: instead of running standard debian, i think it would be more convenient to setup a router os like vyos.net on that machine. Also based on debian, but it's main purpose is router functionality. has it's own irc channel: #vyos |
| 17:22.42 | AlexLikeRock | its .... 192.168.1.254 |
| 17:22.50 | glk70 | I need debian for other purposes . |
| 17:22.53 | glk70 | anywy |
| 17:23.03 | fromport | he basically can pint the router gw ip (which is translated) but he has no routing to the rest of the subnet. standard linux routing issue ;-) |
| 17:23.20 | glk70 | 172.16.15.23 --> ping --> 172.16.1.222 |
| 17:23.31 | fromport | glk70: like i said, it is based on debian, so you can add/install debian packages on top of the standard vyos |
| 17:23.43 | glk70 | 172.16.15.23 --> ping --> 192.168.1.254 (first virtual interface) |
| 17:23.49 | glk70 | ping ok |
| 17:24.03 | glk70 | 172.16.15.23 --> ping --> 192.168.254.1 (second virtual interface) |
| 17:24.06 | glk70 | ping ok |
| 17:24.11 | AlexLikeRock | cool |
| 17:24.31 | glk70 | 172.16.15.23 --> ping --> 192.168.254.254 (router on 192.168.254.x/24) NO PING |
| 17:24.43 | glk70 | like debian IS NOT ROUTING packets |
| 17:24.50 | glk70 | but I cannot figure out WHY |
| 17:24.56 | glk70 | and yes forwarding is OK |
| 17:24.59 | fromport | glk70: in short, you are missing the route to the whole 192.168.254.x/24. |
| 17:25.06 | glk70 | YES |
| 17:25.34 | glk70 | and 192.168.254.1 is configured as virtual interface |
| 17:25.42 | fromport | even though you think you are pinging 254.1 you aren't. you are pinging the linux network stack and all the gateways on the linux box are "one" |
| 17:26.00 | fromport | but again: this is not a debian routing channel |
| 17:26.16 | glk70 | fromport: ok |
| 17:26.22 | fromport | this is for a debian alternative : devuan |
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| 17:26.29 | glk70 | ahh sorry |
| 17:27.19 | fromport | glk70: look here for more hints: https://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/configuring-static-routes-in-debian-or-red-hat-linux-systems.html |
| 17:28.19 | fromport | ip route add 192.168.254.0/24 via 192.168.254.1 dev [whateverinterface] |
| 17:28.24 | fromport | should work |
| 17:28.26 | glk70 | oh thanks |
| 17:28.31 | glk70 | I have ALLL ROUTES set up... |
| 17:28.49 | fromport | no you haven't otherwise it would work |
| 17:29.04 | glk70 | ip route show : |
| 17:29.29 | glk70 | 192.168.254.0/24 dev eth0 proto kernel scope link wrc 192.168.254.1 |
| 17:29.43 | glk70 | and others as I have 4 virtual interfaces |
| 17:34.45 | nailyk | glk70: there is a (known) issue where the 'loopack' cannot be achieved on phys interfaces |
| 17:35.20 | nailyk | eth1 is set to 10.0.0.1 and you ping 10.0.0.1 from a computer connected on eth2 it will fail |
| 17:35.26 | glk70 | I have loopbak, in ipv4 and ipv6 |
| 17:35.51 | glk70 | and rather strange it is making traffic too |
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| 17:37.25 | nailyk | There is another (known) issue where (even with forward disabled) paquets can be forwarded anyway between interfaces: |
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| 17:37.51 | nailyk | (forwarding disabled!) 1. eth2 are in subnet 10.0.0.0/24 |
| 17:38.39 | nailyk | 2. eth1 are into 192.168.0.1/24 |
| 17:39.00 | glk70 | yes but I have forward enabled :) ! |
| 17:39.11 | glk70 | and all interfaces are virtual, and on the same ETH0 |
| 17:39.18 | nailyk | oh virtual |
| 17:39.22 | nailyk | sorry, didn't test with virtual |
| 17:39.32 | glk70 | stranger.... nslookup can resolve www.google.it |
| 17:39.40 | glk70 | but BIND9 doesn't |
| 17:39.49 | glk70 | so ping www.google.it fails |
| 17:48.47 | nailyk | for the ipv6 speed problem looks like ubuntu is acting the same. Wget is slow, firefox is ok, trough the same proxy obviously |
| 17:48.56 | nailyk | in v4 both are ok |
| 17:49.44 | nailyk | (kernel 4.4 on ubuntu) |
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| 18:51.33 | NonTeLoDico | if anybody mind.... I've solved the multigateway routing problems, just solving how to route packets from eth0 to the default gateway eth0:1 eth0:2, etc |
| 18:55.00 | glk70 | sorry |
| 18:55.07 | glk70 | changed to the defalt nic |
| 18:55.10 | glk70 | if anybody mind.... I've solved the multigateway routing problems, just solving how to route packets from eth0 to the default gateway eth0:1 eth0:2, etc |
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| 19:06.16 | user42 | i've tried to installed devuan on a HP 250 G5 from a dvd-iso image burned on a dvd. Everything goes fine until the grub installation, there comes: " Unable to configure GRUB Executing 'update-grub' failed. This is a fatal error. " strg+alt+f4 says: "grub-installer: error: Running 'update-grub' failed. From dmesg i cant find something relevant (sh |
| 19:06.16 | user42 | ould i grep somthing specific?). Tried with Lefgacy support on and off in bios. Everytime the same problem. My partitioning sheme is: 1GB efi; 1GB boot: rest for encrypted volume with logical volmue group; 30GB Logical Volume for root; 20 GB LV for swap rest for home. I would like to get it to work without (u)efi. |
| 19:10.06 | golinux | You should talk to fsmithred but doesn't seem that he's around today. |
| 19:10.13 | fsmithred | yes, I'm back |
| 19:10.32 | fsmithred | eating lunch and catching up on irc |
| 19:11.00 | golinux | Good timing |
| 19:11.14 | fsmithred | 20gb swap? why? |
| 19:12.52 | fsmithred | well, that's weird |
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| 19:15.18 | golinux | He's baaack |
| 19:17.08 | fsmithred | user42, |
| 19:17.16 | user42 | y? |
| 19:17.23 | fsmithred | hp laptop with uefi might be tricky |
| 19:17.42 | fsmithred | I know on some of them, you have to name your bootloader Micrososft-something... |
| 19:18.23 | fsmithred | are you here? |
| 19:18.27 | user42 | yes |
| 19:18.29 | fsmithred | ok |
| 19:19.17 | fsmithred | uefi on hp probook: https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=15 |
| 19:20.10 | fsmithred | what boots right now? just dvd? |
| 19:20.53 | user42 | yes i deleted all previous windows 10 and efi partitions |
| 19:21.02 | user42 | well |
| 19:21.36 | user42 | when i skip bootloader installation a "mini grubshell boots" |
| 19:21.58 | user42 | i dont recall the name exactly |
| 19:22.38 | aggrora | user42: Not sure how far you get but http://www.supergrubdisk.org/ might be an option |
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| 19:24.02 | aggrora | I have only used it when grub was working and then failed, but it has some cool tools |
| 19:24.40 | fsmithred | you can reinstall grub from the installation media |
| 19:25.09 | fsmithred | go to advanced and... I don't remember what it says, but you can figure it out. Reinstall grub bootloader, or something like that. |
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| 19:26.00 | glk70 | Hi folks. solved. server with single nick performing as gateway from local NETWORKS with multirouting (actually in testing 2 router , 40 + 40 mbits) |
| 19:26.29 | glk70 | thanks for letting me in |
| 19:26.34 | glk70 | have a nice weekend |
| 19:26.49 | user42 | thak you for your answers. i'll try the rescue mode then the forum post. cant burn a dvd right now |
| 19:27.07 | user42 | at the forum post it says: An EFI System Partition must be present if GPT is used. |
| 19:27.19 | user42 | before installation? |
| 19:27.31 | fsmithred | that can vary from one machine to another |
| 19:27.50 | fsmithred | no, the installer should make the efi partition if it doesn't exist |
| 19:28.00 | fsmithred | and btw, 1gb is waaaaay more than you need |
| 19:28.04 | Wonka | the EFI System Partition is needed to install GRUB into |
| 19:28.13 | Wonka | at least efigrub |
| 19:28.25 | fsmithred | yeah, but it doesn't need to be there before you run the installer |
| 19:29.31 | user42 | ok so i got an efi partition and am going to skip the bootloader installation because of the error and the try installing it from rescue mode |
| 19:29.45 | fsmithred | I've been using 200mb for efi |
| 19:30.07 | fsmithred | it is gpt partition table? |
| 19:30.27 | fsmithred | efi partition is fat32 with boot and esp flags? |
| 19:32.07 | fsmithred | fdisk -l should recognize it as EFI System Partition |
| 19:33.46 | user42 | fdisk says Disklabel type: gpt |
| 19:33.59 | fsmithred | ok |
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| 19:34.31 | fsmithred | does it say EFI System for the efi partition? |
| 19:34.46 | user42 | dev\sda1 is Type EFI System |
| 19:34.53 | fsmithred | ok |
| 19:36.53 | fsmithred | brb |
| 19:44.18 | fsmithred | back. anything new happen? |
| 19:45.29 | user42 | i would skip boot loader installation and try rescue mode now |
| 19:49.27 | user42 | i finished installtion now and let it boot from my ssd. it says: GNE GRB version 2.02~beta.... Minimal BASH-like line editing is supported. .... |
| 19:49.40 | user42 | GNU GRUB* |
| 19:50.45 | fsmithred | ok, so you have a grub prompt? |
| 19:50.56 | user42 | yes |
| 19:50.56 | fsmithred | grub> |
| 19:51.00 | fsmithred | cool! |
| 19:51.06 | fsmithred | you're just missing a boot menu |
| 19:51.23 | fsmithred | what partition is the /boot? |
| 19:51.58 | fsmithred | and which one is /? |
| 19:52.08 | user42 | i gave it its own partition |
| 19:52.13 | fsmithred | and oh yeah, lvm complicates it a bit |
| 19:52.30 | fsmithred | you know your way around grub command line to boot it? |
| 19:52.44 | user42 | no :s |
| 19:52.51 | fsmithred | hang on |
| 19:53.07 | fsmithred | is the root partition part of the lvm? |
| 19:53.16 | user42 | yes |
| 19:53.29 | fsmithred | ok, which partition is the root? |
| 19:53.52 | user42 | encrypted partition with LVG |
| 19:54.12 | fsmithred | ok, hang on |
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| 19:56.09 | fsmithred | how many drives? |
| 19:56.13 | user42 | ls prits: (hd0) (hd0,gpt3) (hd0,gpt2) (hd0,gpt1) (cd0) |
| 19:56.21 | fsmithred | ok |
| 19:56.26 | user42 | so 1 ssd and 1 cd |
| 19:56.27 | fsmithred | which of those is /boot? |
| 19:56.39 | fsmithred | where's hd1 in that? |
| 19:56.47 | user42 | good question |
| 19:56.54 | fsmithred | can you tell by the number of partitions which disk that is? |
| 19:57.32 | fsmithred | where did you put /boot and where did you put efi partition? |
| 19:57.44 | fsmithred | shoule be /dev/sd something |
| 19:57.51 | user42 | i guess: hd0 is the ssd with 3 partitions: boot , efi and the encrypted one |
| 19:58.13 | fsmithred | big spinning disk for /home? |
| 19:58.38 | fsmithred | set root=(hd0,gpt1) |
| 19:58.44 | fsmithred | if /boot is on the first partition |
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| 20:01.19 | fsmithred | wb |
| 20:01.59 | user42 | ty, i dont know where to get dev paths |
| 20:02.06 | fsmithred | user42, first command on grub line: |
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| 20:02.22 | fsmithred | who partitioned your disk and installed the system? |
| 20:02.46 | fsmithred | don't worry, do this... |
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| 20:02.58 | fsmithred | set root=(hd0,gpt |
| 20:03.02 | fsmithred | and then TAB |
| 20:03.11 | fsmithred | (maybe twice) |
| 20:03.23 | fsmithred | and it should print a list of the partitions with information about them |
| 20:05.32 | user42 | Parition hd0,gpt1: Filesystem fat, UUID 1F... - Partition stapn at 1024.... |
| 20:05.42 | fsmithred | oh, cool |
| 20:05.55 | fsmithred | ok |
| 20:06.12 | fsmithred | is the second one /boot? |
| 20:06.21 | fsmithred | is the second one ext? |
| 20:06.34 | fsmithred | and the third one is probably unknown filesystem |
| 20:06.43 | fsmithred | yes? no? |
| 20:08.13 | fsmithred | god, I hope he's not rebooting every time I give him a new command. |
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| 20:10.09 | fsmithred | where is /boot? |
| 20:10.32 | fsmithred | set root=(hd0,gpt?) |
| 20:10.38 | user42 | 2 |
| 20:10.50 | fsmithred | ok, then gpt2 in that command |
| 20:11.29 | fsmithred | linux /vmlinuz ro root=/dev/mapper/<vg_name-lv_name> |
| 20:11.57 | fsmithred | where vg_name is the volume group name and lv_name is the logical volume that has the root filesystem |
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| 20:12.25 | fsmithred | brb |
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| 20:19.20 | user42 | sorry my internet keeps crashing, did i miss something |
| 20:19.48 | blinkdog | What was the last thing you got? |
| 20:20.17 | user42 | set root=(hd0,gpt2) |
| 20:20.19 | user42 | done that |
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| 20:23.27 | blinkdog | <fsmithred> ok, then gpt2 in that command |
| 20:23.27 | blinkdog | <fsmithred> linux /vmlinuz ro root=/dev/mapper/<vg_name-lv_name> |
| 20:23.27 | blinkdog | <fsmithred> where vg_name is the volume group name and lv_name is the logical volume that has the root filesystem |
| 20:23.36 | blinkdog | That's the part after |
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| 20:25.14 | fsmithred | ok |
| 20:25.41 | fsmithred | enter that |
| 20:25.47 | fsmithred | and then second command: |
| 20:25.50 | fsmithred | <fsmithred> linux /vmlinuz ro root=/dev/mapper/<vg_name-lv_name> |
| 20:25.50 | fsmithred | <fsmithred> where vg_name is the volume group name and lv_name is the logical volume that has the root filesystem |
| 20:26.15 | fsmithred | and it's on one line |
| 20:26.26 | fsmithred | third command: |
| 20:26.31 | fsmithred | initrd /initrd.img |
| 20:26.35 | fsmithred | fourth command: |
| 20:26.37 | fsmithred | boot |
| 20:29.38 | user42 | ok, thanks. i pressed tab after /vmlinuz and /initrd. output: errer: no suitable video mode found. Booting in blindmode. _ |
| 20:32.32 | msiism | blinkdog: thanks for doing some work on the fod wiki. but one thing: could you try to place new pages withing the right namespaces? |
| 20:32.51 | fsmithred | ok, I get blindmode sometimes |
| 20:33.11 | blinkdog | msiism: Sure. What namespace should I use for these devuan-dev meeting notes? |
| 20:33.48 | msiism | blinkdog: well, that i don't really know. probably also the community wiki namespace |
| 20:35.10 | msiism | blinkdog: i just saw that you've put up an ASCII roadmap on the communiyt wiki page but in the global namespace. |
| 20:35.15 | golinux | Yes, I was thinking that was the right space |
| 20:35.48 | blinkdog | Is community_doc: where you're thinking? |
| 20:35.58 | msiism | yes. |
| 20:36.04 | golinux | That is going to be revised very soon and should probably be umped in with the meet notes stuff |
| 20:36.16 | msiism | that namespace will probably have to be renamed to simply "community" in the future. |
| 20:36.41 | blinkdog | should I move the pages to community: or community_doc: ? |
| 20:36.43 | golinux | I don't see why |
| 20:37.13 | golinux | keep the current structure for the moment, I think |
| 20:37.24 | fsmithred | user42, did it finish booting? |
| 20:37.26 | msiism | blinkdog: well community_doc, wince the other one doesn't exist yet. |
| 20:37.39 | user42 | nope still same screen |
| 20:37.57 | msiism | golinux: because it's not just about documentation, but also about artwork, for example. |
| 20:38.16 | fsmithred | alt-F2 |
| 20:38.40 | fsmithred | or maybe ctrl-alt-F7 |
| 20:38.59 | user42 | still same screen |
| 20:39.10 | fsmithred | ain't workin |
| 20:39.17 | msiism | blinkdog: or, maybe wait. |
| 20:39.33 | msiism | blinkdog: the problem is that at the moment, dokuwiki doesn't actually have a move function. |
| 20:39.52 | golinux | Maybe that will be coming shortly? |
| 20:40.18 | blinkdog | yeah, I was just seeing there is a pagemove plugin, but it hasn't been updated in awhile |
| 20:40.30 | msiism | golinux: well, it's sort of there. but there's a privileges problem. |
| 20:40.31 | fsmithred | user42, you might need to boot from a live-cd to repair it the way edbarx desribed |
| 20:40.37 | fsmithred | in the forum howto |
| 20:40.49 | golinux | Another blocker. :( |
| 20:41.07 | golinux | But different 'management'. |
| 20:41.18 | blinkdog | golinux: No worries. We can edit the pages in the playground: namespace |
| 20:41.52 | blinkdog | Once they're ready, we can move them to the community_doc: space, either with the plugin, or copying manually if need be |
| 20:42.08 | msiism | blinkdog: for simple pages with no links to other ones, you can also just recereate them in the right namespace, but it will kill al revision history, which might not be acceptable. |
| 20:42.12 | golinux | Manual is a lot of work |
| 20:42.39 | golinux | The pages are not yet populated except for that one |
| 20:42.54 | blinkdog | Yeah, I was going to say, we're just getting started, so we can probably afford to lose the history :-) |
| 20:43.03 | msiism | ok |
| 20:43.07 | golinux | I second that. |
| 20:43.18 | golinux | brb |
| 20:43.26 | user42 | fsmithred: ok. could a clea windows 10 installation help(i have to install it to burn a disk) with the efi problem? |
| 20:43.42 | fsmithred | maybe |
| 20:43.52 | msiism | blinkdog: "deleteing" the old page is then simply done by opening it for editing and erasing all content. |
| 20:44.02 | fsmithred | if you have to do it anyway, take a look at what it puts on the efi partition |
| 20:44.39 | user42 | gonna do that. trying dual boot than, though i dont like win10 |
| 20:46.04 | blinkdog | msiism: Okay. I'll start cleaning up the ones we've got |
| 20:46.59 | user42 | okay thanks for your help. gn8 |
| 20:46.59 | fsmithred | shrink it down so it doesn't take up much space |
| 20:47.22 | user42 | gonna do that |
| 20:47.30 | fsmithred | there's a way to add a linux boot option in windows using some command like bcgedit |
| 20:47.37 | fsmithred | or close to that |
| 20:48.13 | msiism | blinkdog: nice |
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| 20:50.09 | golinux | It's not devuan-dev MINUTES! |
| 20:50.28 | golinux | It should be meet notes |
| 20:51.20 | msiism | i was wondering about that |
| 20:51.26 | golinux | blinkdog: ^^^ |
| 20:57.57 | fsmithred | time for a break. bbl. |
| 21:04.41 | blinkdog | There we go; a place for everything and everything in its place |
| 21:06.13 | msiism | blinkdog: and will you link to these pages on https://friendsofdevuan.org/doku.php/community_doc:root ? |
| 21:09.27 | blinkdog | msiism: Just added/updated the links on the community doc root |
| 21:12.37 | msiism | cool. |
| 21:12.57 | msiism | even cooler: i just realized, i've already got admin privileges. |
| 21:13.44 | golinux | Some good news for a change. |
| 21:14.55 | msiism | golinux: right. i will just need a few days to carefully re-read the admin docs for sokuwiki and then we can go about the restructuring. |
| 21:15.43 | golinux | Nice to have things moving again |
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| 22:41.21 | gnu_srs1 | Hi, a maybe not-so-easy question: Current version of Xorg seems to have a memory leak, usage is now more than 20%. |
| 22:41.21 | gnu_srs1 | Is it possible to find out where/reset it without logging out/something else? |
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