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| 00:21.09 | *** topic/#devuan is Recent (2017-05-25): Jessie 1.0.0 stable release http://ur1.ca/qxaa5 || This is the Devuan https://devuan.org/ discussion channel (logged at https://botbot.me/freenode/devuan - with useful 'search') | Please take off-topic conversation to #debianfork | /msg chanserv info #devuan | !listkeys #devuan <foo> | Devuan Forum: https://dev1galaxy.org/ |
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| 01:48.34 | Digit | discovered the machine i had devuan failing on me a lot, has hardware problems. very sorry for having thought it was devuan's fault back then. i dont recall if i ever siad so, but i'll least appologise for having thought it. |
| 01:49.41 | gnarface | You have repented. Let your sins be absolved, my son. |
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| 01:50.24 | Digit | basks in glorious absolution |
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| 02:05.55 | Leander | I tried to do a search on the bot's logs, but the fun thing is: the search does not match the nicknames, so all we can see is people replying to Digit, but nothing of what he wrote |
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| 02:14.39 | golinux | If you scroll back to that date, you will be able to see it. |
| 02:20.03 | Leander | unless no one quoted the nickname in the conversation! :) |
| 02:20.48 | allan_wind | you guys are funny |
| 02:20.52 | Leander | someone already opened an issue on github about that, six months ago, and... it's been ignored, apparently |
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| 03:43.31 | Turni | Hello. I upgraded to ascii and after a reboot wifi is working but ethernet does not. Any ideas? |
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| 03:44.33 | Turni | I guess that is why they call it testing. I did the same thing on this machine before and it worked fine. Haha/ |
| 03:51.42 | allan_wind | what do you mean with not working? |
| 03:57.02 | allan_wind | is it plugged in? ;-) |
| 03:58.33 | allan_wind | what does `ip -br link` say? |
| 04:00.34 | allan_wind | heh... ip has a color option |
| 04:01.28 | Turni | One sec. |
| 04:01.36 | Turni | It is. Tried a different wire and everything. |
| 04:02.08 | allan_wind | I worked in support and never got to ask that question. Just had to get it out |
| 04:02.46 | fsmithred | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:02.47 | Turni | I know that feel. |
| 04:03.19 | fsmithred | you got enp0sblah... for interface name? |
| 04:03.44 | Turni | nah eno1. wlan0 for wifi |
| 04:04.20 | Turni | We are good. |
| 04:04.32 | fsmithred | eno1? That's good? |
| 04:04.49 | Turni | I guess wicd defaulted to eth0. or my ethernet turned to eno1 with the update. |
| 04:05.00 | fsmithred | only do what I said if you want it to be eth0 |
| 04:05.08 | fsmithred | yeah, you can change wicd prefs |
| 04:05.35 | Turni | Nice. Well thanks for the help. Question. What the fuck happened to ifconfig? |
| 04:05.47 | fsmithred | it's in a package called net-tools |
| 04:05.56 | fsmithred | apparently doesn't get installed by default anymore |
| 04:06.00 | Turni | Fuck. |
| 04:06.09 | allan_wind | ip replaces it |
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| 04:32.16 | eracc_lappy | No webmin. :( |
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| 05:52.11 | guru | i was reading the logs and finally went to distrowatch |
| 05:52.21 | guru | Manjaroat 3 wow |
| 05:52.33 | guru | ive never heard of Antergos either |
| 05:52.53 | guru | how is devuan ranked 46? do you report repo date to them? |
| 05:53.33 | KatolaZ | guru: ? |
| 05:53.51 | guru | https://distrowatch.com/ |
| 05:54.02 | guru | oh its hits per day |
| 05:54.08 | guru | i didn't see HPD |
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| 08:00.31 | utanapischti | is something wrong with devuan's servers? I'm trying to upgrade 2 PI3s and get horrible download rates |
| 08:01.29 | utanapischti | tried the PI's wifi and cabled net... same results... so probably not a local problem |
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| 13:12.55 | parazyd | https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1469670#c9 |
| 13:13.04 | parazyd | this change causes major slowdowns in various bits of systemd code, which assumes that getpid() is fast |
| 13:13.23 | parazyd | âwe apologize that you will have to rewrite this to get back your performanceâ |
| 13:15.01 | djph | parazyd: bug status - WONTFIX |
| 13:15.23 | djph | parazyd: (though given the general systemd code, probably more 'CANTFIX') |
| 13:15.56 | parazyd | so glad i moved away from glibc |
| 13:16.06 | parazyd | now that they're trying to contribute code in there too :D |
| 13:16.35 | djph | what'd you replace it with? |
| 13:16.43 | parazyd | musl |
| 13:16.54 | parazyd | but this is gentoo i'm talking about |
| 13:16.56 | djph | ah yeah, i remember you talking about that once ... |
| 13:17.27 | parazyd | yeah could be |
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| 13:43.18 | zdzichu | parazyd: cotribute what code? |
| 13:48.03 | zdzichu | as I see the story, glibc removed cache for getpid() syscall, which is documented to be fast |
| 13:48.20 | zdzichu | and suddenly parts of systemd suite got slow |
| 13:48.43 | zdzichu | systemd developers do not try to send patches to glibc, $DEITY forbid |
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| 14:09.28 | gnu_srs1 | $DEITY=? |
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| 14:17.31 | parazyd | bye DNG |
| 14:17.46 | parazyd | if you need anything from me from now on, please Cc |
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| 14:35.44 | djph | parazyd: ehwot? |
| 14:35.56 | parazyd | i unsubscribed from dng |
| 14:36.00 | parazyd | it's too offtopic |
| 14:36.47 | TheTrueHooha | parazyd: that's the best kind of discussion |
| 14:36.58 | parazyd | mhm |
| 14:37.08 | TheTrueHooha | We just need to add some usenet spammers and klansmen |
| 14:37.17 | TheTrueHooha | Maybe some Subgenii |
| 14:37.21 | TheTrueHooha | Get it really fun |
| 14:37.30 | TheTrueHooha | #MakeTheMLFunAgain |
| 14:37.39 | TheTrueHooha | #MMLFA |
| 14:37.44 | TheTrueHooha | To hel with Maga |
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| 16:18.36 | garfuncle | Hello. I am trying to install try install Oracle Virtualbox via the free version. I was able to install it on one machine. But now it tells me the package is not available. |
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| 16:22.34 | FlibberTGibbet | what's this about cinnamon for devuan? that's even possible? |
| 16:24.07 | parazyd | does anyone happen to have the torrent/magnet for devuan beta2? |
| 16:24.54 | furrywolf | people actually use bittorrent for linux isos? :) |
| 16:25.05 | parazyd | it's the best archive there is |
| 16:25.20 | furrywolf | thought that was like saying bongs are for smoking tobacco |
| 16:25.37 | parazyd | but i can't find the magnet link and git.do isn't letting me login and i can't look at the git history of the website if i'm not logged in :/ |
| 16:25.44 | parazyd | bongs are ok |
| 16:29.13 | furrywolf | is making good use of rutracker at the moment |
| 16:33.56 | furrywolf | (data plan expires tomorrow, time to use it all up!) |
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| 17:14.57 | DocScrutinizer05 | just in case your irc client didn't show it: [Notice] -mquin- [Global Notice] The next two months could mark a turning point for the Internet as we know it. The FCC is deciding what its future course on Net Neutrality will be. To learn more, and to see how you might make a difference - particularly if you live in the USA - see https://www.battleforthenet.com . Thank you for your attention, and for flying freenode! |
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| 17:19.38 | zdzichu | yeah, but that USA only problem |
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| 17:24.25 | garfuncle | Hello. I am trying to add 3 new hard drives to my system. I was wondering if ayneone could help answer some questions with the fstab file in relation to UUID |
| 17:24.44 | eracc_lappy | garfuncle, ask. |
| 17:25.20 | KatolaZ | garfuncle: do not use UUIDs :D |
| 17:26.12 | fsmithred | you can still ask |
| 17:26.15 | garfuncle | I attempted to do this on my last install and it would not let me boot. It said cryptsetup not found lvm not available. I wanted to know was it because my / /boot partions were not using UUID and I added fstab hard drives using their UUID's like most guides on the internet suggest. |
| 17:27.00 | garfuncle | My root is encrypted btw. |
| 17:27.12 | fsmithred | how did you install? |
| 17:27.26 | garfuncle | OS or the drives? |
| 17:27.51 | fsmithred | oh, you're adding drives to an existing encrypted lvm? |
| 17:28.23 | garfuncle | I think. I selected I wanted my / to be encrypted so I made a seperate boot. This was done with EUFI installer. |
| 17:28.48 | fsmithred | regular installer iso or desktop-live? |
| 17:29.33 | garfuncle | my main / shows up as /dev/mapper/root_fs / ext4 in the fstab. I believe it was desktop-live. livecd booted me into xfce. |
| 17:30.04 | fsmithred | ok, that installer does encryption but not lvm |
| 17:30.16 | fsmithred | you just have /boot and / partitions? |
| 17:30.35 | garfuncle | /boot /booteif and swap. |
| 17:30.44 | garfuncle | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:30.57 | fsmithred | oh right, uefi |
| 17:31.09 | fsmithred | just / is encrypted, right? |
| 17:31.18 | garfuncle | Yes. |
| 17:31.44 | fsmithred | ok, I don't know if there's a way to retro-fit lvm on the encrypted partition |
| 17:32.30 | garfuncle | If so am I sol in adding new drives? I just wanted to be glorifed USB that can be mounted in the file-manager. |
| 17:32.43 | fsmithred | you can add drives |
| 17:33.06 | fsmithred | they can be encrypted, mounted, symlinked and used like they're just another directory |
| 17:33.44 | garfuncle | Would it be safer to just manually mount them as root when I start and have the mount points chown to my user account? |
| 17:34.02 | fsmithred | this is linux, there are 10 ways to do everything |
| 17:34.30 | fsmithred | do you know how to manually partition a drive and create an encrypted filesystem? |
| 17:34.31 | garfuncle | Infinite ways for my dumb ass to make a mistake. :^) |
| 17:35.02 | garfuncle | I know how to manually partition but never manually encrypted. |
| 17:35.26 | fsmithred | I think I wrote a howto on that. hang on |
| 17:35.39 | allan_wind | fsmithred: heh |
| 17:35.55 | garfuncle | Encryption of the other drives though at this point is not a concern. They are already formated. One is ext4 the other two are ntfs. Some of them have backups of old data that I need. |
| 17:37.23 | fsmithred | oh, ok |
| 17:37.31 | fsmithred | here it is anyway: http://www.debianuserforums.org/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=408&sid=e72803e587335a4e75ef309eb1c0756f |
| 17:37.47 | fsmithred | so you just need to add them to fstab |
| 17:37.50 | garfuncle | I will certainly save that link later. |
| 17:38.19 | fsmithred | uuids will prevent confusion if the boot order changes, but they suck. |
| 17:38.35 | fsmithred | you can use human readable labels if you want |
| 17:38.56 | fsmithred | you can set the options so that user can mount/unmount |
| 17:39.31 | fsmithred | or you could have user mount/unmount them with pmount |
| 17:40.15 | garfuncle | Should I just go by their /dev/sd*'s when adding them to the fstab? |
| 17:40.37 | garfuncle | I am not familiar with pmount. |
| 17:40.52 | fsmithred | with 3 or 4 drives, I'd probably go with labels and/or uuids |
| 17:41.26 | fsmithred | if the installer used uuid, and there aren't any other bootable systems on the drives, then I think you're covered |
| 17:41.44 | fsmithred | worst that could happen if they switch order is you'd mount the wrong data drive |
| 17:42.27 | garfuncle | See I selected to use UUID but the fstab have my partions by their /dev/sda* |
| 17:43.13 | fsmithred | you're sure you are not looking at the commented lines? (start with #) |
| 17:43.21 | muep | the names would also likely change if some drive dies entirely |
| 17:43.59 | garfuncle | http://i.imgur.com/tNLTQJW.png |
| 17:44.53 | parazyd | lain |
| 17:45.12 | garfuncle | Would be disappointed in me considering how clueless I am. |
| 17:47.21 | fsmithred | ok, I need to check if uuid is broken in the uefi installer. |
| 17:48.31 | garfuncle | If so I am glad that I shed light on the issue. |
| 17:48.47 | fsmithred | I'm looking at my fstab |
| 17:48.56 | fsmithred | three hard drives, used to be four |
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| 17:49.06 | fsmithred | two are /dev/mapper/... |
| 17:49.49 | fsmithred | and one /dev/sdc1 for /boot |
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| 17:51.52 | fsmithred | I'd leave it and see if it works. |
| 17:52.22 | fsmithred | for the additional drives, since you're already doing it manually, use labels |
| 17:52.41 | garfuncle | Alright. I have rebooted so I seem to be ok. Cool labels it is then. |
| 17:52.53 | fsmithred | they have meaning |
| 17:53.09 | fsmithred | long sting of random numbers and letters is not helpful |
| 17:53.43 | garfuncle | SAMSUNG2TB01 SEAGATE01 SEAGATE02? That is what I called the directories for the mount points. |
| 17:53.44 | DocScrutinizer05 | zdzichu: net neutrality is a global problem, just the entity spoiling your day is different depending where you live |
| 17:54.20 | fsmithred | lol, I've done that |
| 17:58.54 | garfuncle | tune2fs -L"label /dev/sd* right? |
| 18:01.59 | garfuncle | And would it be smart to change my fstab to use labels for all my partitons as well? |
| 18:02.48 | fsmithred | I use e2label, but I always have to check if it's followed by device-label or label-device |
| 18:02.56 | fsmithred | I don't think you need to |
| 18:03.09 | fsmithred | uefi is going to look for the efi partition to get the bootloader |
| 18:03.25 | fsmithred | and grub is probably already using uuids |
| 18:04.02 | fsmithred | if one of those extra drives has a proper efi partition, it might get weird |
| 18:04.34 | fsmithred | uefi implementations vary a lot |
| 18:22.50 | garfuncle | fsmithred: Thanks for the help. I just tested the labels and mounted them. I am going to sent a screenshot of the new fstab when I am done if that is ok. |
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| 21:46.32 | pete_ | golinux,: could I trouble you to paste the hangout url ? |
| 21:47.08 | pete_ | I am on another machine (PeteGozz) |
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