| 00:02.48 | greenjeans | rats, gotta run, thanks parazyd and jonadab! Y'all have a good one |
| 00:02.56 | parazyd | cya! |
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| 01:21.17 | zono50 | anyone know a good tutorial for installing wine on devuan? |
| 01:25.09 | gnarface | zono50: i don't, but i'll help you out of pity, such as i can |
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| 01:26.45 | gnarface | zono50: if you're lucky, all it takes is "apt-get install wine" but if you're on jessie, that version is probably too old to do anything interesting with regards to current games |
| 01:26.57 | zono50 | that's what i figured |
| 01:27.28 | gnarface | zono50: the wine-development package in unstable is more current, but you can also just use the wine-staging package from winehq directly if you want CSMT and other bleeding-edge stuff |
| 01:27.44 | zono50 | is that a deb package? |
| 01:28.09 | gnarface | zono50: yes. in general, mixing in 3rd party repos is not advised, but in this case it's your best option (don't get comfortable with the idea) |
| 01:28.47 | gnarface | obviously you could make your own build too, but it's a royal p.i.t.a. if you want 64-bit support too |
| 01:30.29 | gnarface | wine-development was 2.0 last i checked |
| 01:30.33 | gnarface | wine-staging is 2.6 |
| 01:30.34 | zono50 | i don't think i really need 64 bit anyways |
| 01:30.51 | gnarface | i think the regular "wine" package in jessie is like 1.6 or something, but should work fine if you aren't playing recent games |
| 01:31.20 | gnarface | (the Blizzard games are all completely broken without the latest wine) |
| 01:33.14 | gnarface | hmm, wine-development 1.8.7 appears to be in jessie-backports |
| 01:33.28 | gnarface | that might be a good compromise if you don't need a post-2.0 version |
| 01:33.58 | zono50 | yeah i added the deb https://dl.winehq.org/wine-builds/debian/ DISTRO main, and then ran apt-get update, but when i search for wine, it finds version 1.6 |
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| 01:34.16 | gnarface | oh and it's probably worth mentioning that if you're using a newer AMD GPU, just forgo the standard wine builds entirely and skip to something called "wine-gallium-9" (i think) |
| 01:34.37 | zono50 | says run this command, but it can't find it |
| 01:34.37 | gnarface | you added that line literally? |
| 01:34.39 | zono50 | sudo apt-get install --install-recommends winehq-stable |
| 01:34.44 | zono50 | yes |
| 01:35.05 | gnarface | you were supposed to swap out "DISTRO" with your actual distro. in this case, jessie (i presume) |
| 01:35.18 | zono50 | haha lol |
| 01:35.20 | zono50 | thanks |
| 01:35.23 | gnarface | np |
| 01:36.22 | gnarface | i haven't tested wine-staging on jessie myself, but it works on ceres |
| 01:36.32 | gnarface | you might run into dependency issues |
| 01:37.17 | zono50 | ah there they are |
| 01:38.47 | zono50 | ok so wine is installed, what now |
| 01:39.12 | gnarface | ok the most helpful thing i think i can do at this point is make sure you understand the WINEPREFIX environment variable's significance and use |
| 01:39.20 | zono50 | i'm listening |
| 01:39.25 | gnarface | by default your wine prefix will be ~/.wine |
| 01:39.40 | gnarface | all your games go in there, your "c:\" is a subdirectory of that |
| 01:39.47 | gnarface | however that's just by default |
| 01:39.50 | zono50 | there is no ~/.wine directory |
| 01:39.58 | gnarface | (it's created on the fly at start up) |
| 01:40.04 | zono50 | ah ok |
| 01:40.18 | gnarface | if you want to change it, set WINEPREFIX to another path your user has access to |
| 01:40.32 | gnarface | this can be set to a new path *every time you start wine* |
| 01:40.46 | gnarface | so in this way, you can keep and manage multiple separate wine prefixes |
| 01:40.48 | gnarface | understand? |
| 01:41.25 | zono50 | so WINEPREFIX is an environment variable that simply stores the path to my games and applications |
| 01:41.55 | gnarface | yes. it's important you understand. why you'd want to do that - segregate all your games into separate prefixes - only becomes more apparent when winetricks for one breaks another in the same prefix |
| 01:42.25 | zono50 | so what would an example command look like |
| 01:42.37 | gnarface | if WINEPREFIX is set to an empty directory it just creates a new wineprefix on the fly there |
| 01:43.14 | zono50 | ok |
| 01:44.36 | zono50 | so let's say I want to install a game |
| 01:44.49 | zono50 | i type wine then the path to the exe? |
| 01:44.58 | gnarface | yea |
| 01:45.40 | gnarface | (or "wine-development" literally, if you're using the debian wine-development package) |
| 01:45.49 | gnarface | in most the other packages, wine is called wine |
| 01:46.24 | gnarface | if you want to just initialize a bare prefix and mess with the settings before installing anything into it, use the "winecfg" (or "winecfg-development") binary, which also obeys WINEPREFIX the same way |
| 01:46.46 | gnarface | so for example you want to install a game to /usr/local/games/my_starcraft_prefix |
| 01:46.56 | gnarface | assume this directory is created and chowned to you already |
| 01:47.04 | zono50 | is wine 32 bit by default? |
| 01:47.26 | gnarface | you would run this command: WINEPREFIX="/usr/local/games/my_starcraft_prefix" winecfg |
| 01:47.41 | gnarface | it at least used to be 32-bit by default. i don't know for sure if they changed it |
| 01:47.51 | gnarface | but you specify with another environment variable: WINEARCH |
| 01:48.13 | gnarface | WINEARCH="win64" for 64-bit (note NOT "wine64") |
| 01:48.42 | gnarface | winecfg also obeys WINEARCH |
| 01:48.46 | zono50 | so wine WINEPREFIX="BLAH BLAH BLAH" |
| 01:49.20 | gnarface | i like to put environment variables before the command, but i guess in bash it doesn't matter |
| 01:50.55 | zono50 | says cannot find wineprefix |
| 01:51.04 | gnarface | WINEARCH="win64" WINEPREFIX="/usr/local/games/my_starcraft_prefix" wine 'c:\Program Files\StarCraft II |
| 01:51.07 | gnarface | woops |
| 01:51.19 | gnarface | WINEARCH="win64" WINEPREFIX="/usr/local/games/my_starcraft_prefix" wine 'c:\Program Files\StarCraft II\StarCraft\ II.exe' |
| 01:51.20 | gnarface | there |
| 01:51.42 | gnarface | the WINEPREFIX directory MUST EXIST |
| 01:51.51 | zono50 | it does |
| 01:51.52 | gnarface | it can be empty but it has to exist and be writeable by the user you run wine as |
| 01:52.06 | gnarface | (never run wine as root though) |
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| 01:53.40 | gnarface | still can't find it? |
| 01:54.06 | gnarface | try moving the WINEPREFIX setting before the binary on the command-line (though i doubt it matters) |
| 01:54.25 | gnarface | i can tell you how to fix the permissions if you show me them (ls -ld [wineprefix]) |
| 01:55.11 | zono50 | export WINEPREFIX=/directory/ wine winecfg |
| 01:55.35 | gnarface | uh |
| 01:55.41 | gnarface | export works differently |
| 01:55.43 | gnarface | that might be your issue |
| 01:55.47 | gnarface | try that without the "export" |
| 01:56.01 | zono50 | export changed the directory to where i wanted it |
| 01:56.11 | gnarface | are you not using BASH? |
| 01:56.16 | gnarface | are you using tcsh or some weird shell? |
| 01:56.19 | zono50 | yakuake |
| 01:56.35 | gnarface | alright well, never heard of it. all my previous advice assumed BASH |
| 01:56.59 | gnarface | i assure you though, that's the environment variable, that's how it works |
| 01:57.10 | zono50 | i appreciate it |
| 01:57.22 | zono50 | saying broken nvidia randr detected, falling back to randr 1.0 |
| 01:57.28 | zono50 | please consider using the nouveau driver |
| 01:57.36 | gnarface | heh |
| 01:57.42 | gnarface | well the jessie drivers are probably just too old |
| 01:58.03 | gnarface | there are newer nvidia official drivers as well as nouveau ones in backports though |
| 01:58.14 | zono50 | i've installed the nvidia drivers from the website |
| 01:58.19 | gnarface | yikes |
| 01:58.23 | gnarface | well that's always a huge mistake |
| 01:58.32 | gnarface | but that doesn't explain why it thinks they're too old |
| 01:58.36 | gnarface | maybe it's expected behavior |
| 01:58.42 | gnarface | does winecfg at least give you the cfg panel? |
| 01:59.04 | zono50 | yes it does |
| 01:59.45 | gnarface | well that's good. seems like mission successful here. just for future reference though; the nvidia.com shell script installer for linux hoses your distro and generally comes with poorly-tested drivers (even when not marked "beta" explicitly) |
| 02:00.07 | gnarface | in general you should always stick with the nvidia drivers packaged by your distro |
| 02:00.18 | gnarface | (if they're old there is probably a good reason) |
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| 02:00.57 | gnarface | nouveau support is hit and miss. in some cases it does certain things better (especially on "legacy" cards) but usually for 3d games it will choke |
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| 02:01.25 | zono50 | yeah when i installed the nvidia drivers, it gave an error about not being able to find the 32 bit compatibility libraries |
| 02:01.57 | gnarface | yea, if i'd caught you before installing them, i could have told you how to add that |
| 02:02.08 | zono50 | i can always reinstall video drivers |
| 02:02.20 | gnarface | multi-arch must be enabled but it is not by default. then some 32-bit libraries have to be installed concurrently with the 64-bit ones |
| 02:02.48 | zono50 | which libraries, and how do i enable multiarch? |
| 02:02.51 | gnarface | the problem is that this all requires a very careful dance of interlocking package dependencies that the nvidia installer script just trampled rough-shod |
| 02:03.22 | gnarface | so that mistake may actually lead to you eventually needing to reinstall |
| 02:03.24 | gnarface | fair warning |
| 02:03.34 | gnarface | but i'm wishing for your sake this time it'll be fine |
| 02:03.40 | zono50 | will that cause a problem with me running games in wine? |
| 02:04.15 | gnarface | not directly - the most likely evidence of damage will come later during some system upgrade that mysteriously fails for you when it shouldn't have |
| 02:04.36 | gnarface | ok so |
| 02:04.37 | gnarface | multiarch |
| 02:05.04 | gnarface | i'm gonna give you some commands to run as root |
| 02:05.08 | zono50 | alrighty |
| 02:05.21 | gnarface | as a sanity check, paste me back the responses (or just say "none" if there was no response) |
| 02:05.30 | gnarface | first command: dpkg --print-architecture |
| 02:06.03 | gnarface | second command: dpkg --print-foreign-architectures |
| 02:06.10 | zono50 | run as root? or no |
| 02:06.14 | gnarface | as root |
| 02:06.23 | zono50 | amd645 |
| 02:06.25 | zono50 | amd64 |
| 02:06.29 | gnarface | well, with these it won't actually matter whether you run them as root or not |
| 02:06.43 | zono50 | what is foreign architectures? |
| 02:06.56 | gnarface | did it print nothing? |
| 02:07.11 | gnarface | or did it print "i386" ? |
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| 02:07.25 | zono50 | i386 |
| 02:07.39 | gnarface | you already have multi-arch enabled, no need to invoke root |
| 02:07.48 | zono50 | ah ok |
| 02:08.03 | gnarface | apt-get install libgl1-nvidia-glx:i386 libgl1-nvidia-glx:amd64 |
| 02:08.11 | gnarface | this will need root^ |
| 02:09.09 | gnarface | libgl1-nvidia-glx:amd64 should alreay be there |
| 02:09.21 | gnarface | libgl1-nvidia-glx:i386 will probably pull in a boat load of other stuff though |
| 02:09.30 | zono50 | those packages are not available, but is referred to by another package |
| 02:09.36 | zono50 | in the first string of text you sent |
| 02:09.48 | gnarface | oh, you have to have non-free enabled in your /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 02:09.58 | gnarface | the nvidia driver packages are in a different part of the repos |
| 02:10.34 | zono50 | i have main contrib non-free |
| 02:10.41 | gnarface | hmm. you sure? |
| 02:10.53 | gnarface | you ran "apt-get update" after adding them, right? |
| 02:11.00 | zono50 | yeah from auto.mirror.devuan.org/merged |
| 02:11.15 | gnarface | pastebin your sources.list |
| 02:11.18 | gnarface | something doesn't sound right |
| 02:11.30 | gnarface | i've done this on hundreds of machines at this point |
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| 02:15.01 | gnarface | zono50: comment out the cdrom line and the winehq line, then add " contrib non-free" to all the remaining lines |
| 02:15.54 | zono50 | done |
| 02:16.52 | zono50 | ok now it's finding the packages, what does contrib non-free do |
| 02:17.29 | gnarface | "main" only contains stuff that is actually open source |
| 02:17.43 | zono50 | it's asking me if i want to run nvidia-installer --uninstall, but i imagine i have to stop the display manager before i do that? |
| 02:18.02 | gnarface | i imagine it'll damn well stop it for you |
| 02:18.12 | gnarface | might not be very elegant |
| 02:18.45 | gnarface | so, contrib is just stuff that may rely on non-free |
| 02:18.54 | gnarface | non-free is actually proprietary stuff (like nvidia drivers) |
| 02:19.08 | gnarface | main is only open source stuff that doesn't depend on non-open-source stuff |
| 02:19.27 | gnarface | it seems annoying, but it keeps patent trolls from sabotaging development of unrelated software |
| 02:19.54 | gnarface | earlier you had " contrib non-free" added to your security and updates lines, but not the main one |
| 02:20.22 | gnarface | also you'd want to add them to backports as well for any chance of newer nvidia drivers through distro-approved channels |
| 02:20.55 | zono50 | gotcha |
| 02:21.24 | zono50 | If you plan to no longer use the NVIDIA driver, you should make sure that no X screens are configured to use the NVIDIA X driver in your X configuration |
| 02:21.24 | zono50 | file. If you used nvidia-xconfig to configure X, it may have created a backup of your original configuration. Would you like to run `nvidia-xconfig |
| 02:21.24 | zono50 | --restore-original-backup` to attempt restoration of the original X configuration file? |
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| 02:21.34 | gnarface | *personally* though, when i use backports and/or non-free to update nvidia drivers, i always disable them again right after |
| 02:22.31 | gnarface | re: the nvidia-xconfig; you didn't customize your /etc/X11/xorg.conf or any other part of Xorg though, i assume? if you didn't, you can just ignore that message |
| 02:22.48 | zono50 | i had to edit xorg.conf to edit my rat 9 mouse |
| 02:22.56 | gnarface | oh |
| 02:22.59 | zono50 | and i did edit the xorg.conf through nvidia-settings |
| 02:22.59 | gnarface | hrm |
| 02:23.19 | gnarface | well you might want to make a manual backup |
| 02:23.19 | gnarface | i dont' trust that shell script to not mangle stuff |
| 02:23.34 | gnarface | otherwise i'd say just ignore |
| 02:23.49 | zono50 | I understand. I'll be on tomorrow to work on it. Work calls early |
| 02:23.55 | zono50 | Thanks for the info |
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| 07:58.01 | edbarx | "git push" --> "Please make sure you have the correct access rights". DNG states repository keys changed. How am I going to chance those keys and what should I do with the posted "clutter" aka keys on DNG? |
| 07:58.51 | zdzichu | remove old keys from ~/.ssh/known_hosts |
| 07:59.07 | zdzichu | you can do ssh-keygen -R git.devuan.org |
| 08:00.06 | edbarx | Thanks. |
| 08:04.15 | edbarx | "git push" complains "The authenticity of host 'git.devuan.org (188.165.53.255)' can't be established. |
| 08:04.15 | edbarx | ECDSA key fingerprint is SHA256:Zvn7XQAIeSX63n+/3oeHAQ3gdKDunanS79EsDD9k2o0. |
| 08:04.15 | edbarx | " |
| 08:10.50 | jaromil | this is correct |
| 08:11.02 | jaromil | we migrated the git server (see Centurion_Dan's signed message also on dng) |
| 08:11.16 | jaromil | the new fingerprint is a8:8d:25:ac:eb:84:80:a4:52:05:84:27:23:de:8c:ce. |
| 08:11.37 | jaromil | please check and update known_hosts accordingly - and many thanks for your patience and contributions edbarx ! |
| 08:12.15 | parazyd | stop using md5 |
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| 10:57.55 | Centurion_Dan1 | o/ |
| 10:58.02 | KatolaZ | o/ |
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| 11:23.39 | aitor | hi |
| 11:24.27 | AntoFox | o/ |
| 11:25.10 | aitor | \o |
| 11:26.01 | aitor | i can find an available port for simple-netaid at every click on the connect button, it's not need to be necessary constant |
| 11:26.23 | aitor | just running: |
| 11:26.25 | aitor | $ netstat --all |
| 11:27.04 | aitor | there is no need do it constant |
| 11:27.18 | aitor | here is the ouput: |
| 11:27.26 | aitor | https://paste.debian.net/932826/ |
| 11:27.40 | aitor | now, the port 21234 is failing for me |
| 11:28.36 | aitor | as you can see in the output, there is a UDP protocol: |
| 11:28.42 | aitor | udp 704 0 0.0.0.0:21234 0.0.0.0:* |
| 11:28.48 | aitor | using this port |
| 11:30.08 | aitor | so, i'll run "netstat" and try to find the ":PORT " string |
| 11:30.16 | KatolaZ | aitor: why do you need this? |
| 11:30.24 | KatolaZ | just choose a port |
| 11:30.29 | KatolaZ | and use it consistently? |
| 11:31.57 | aitor | ok |
| 11:33.16 | aitor | there are two groups in the ouput: |
| 11:33.36 | aitor | Active Internet connections (servers and established), that is the TCP and the UDP |
| 11:33.49 | aitor | Active UNIX domain sockets (servers and established) |
| 11:34.28 | aitor | this last one mentioned by Detha, i seem to remember |
| 11:36.32 | KatolaZ | aitor: just use |
| 11:36.34 | detha | is still in favour of https://troydhanson.github.io/network/Unix_domain_sockets.html |
| 11:36.42 | KatolaZ | netstat -nt |
| 11:36.48 | KatolaZ | for tcp sockets |
| 11:36.57 | KatolaZ | agrees with detha on this point.... |
| 11:37.22 | detha | no need to hunt for free ports, just declare /var/run/simple-netaid/socket your spot |
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| 11:38.24 | aitor | and what about defining: sin_port = 0 |
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| 11:38.56 | detha | how does the other side know what it selects? |
| 11:39.06 | aitor | ok detha, thanks |
| 11:40.27 | aitor | KatolaZ: i'm using udp |
| 11:41.39 | Helle | why couldn't we have OpenFirmware on PCs...... |
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| 11:43.40 | aitor | as i explained in the irc, i have to follow the following steps for the network connection |
| 11:44.09 | aitor | 1) Remove /run/network/.ifstate.lock |
| 11:44.45 | aitor | 2) Remove /run7network/ifstate.wlp3s0 (in my case, wlp3s0) |
| 11:45.17 | aitor | 3) Run /usr/lib/simple-netaid/bin/backend 1 ESSID PASSWD |
| 11:45.59 | aitor | in the most of the cases, this last step fails at the first attempt, giving: |
| 11:46.15 | aitor | ifup: interface wlp3s0 already configured |
| 11:46.29 | aitor | but, trying again, it always works |
| 11:46.47 | aitor | so, i run the backend twice |
| 11:46.58 | aitor | i have to improve this point |
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| 11:47.51 | aitor | if the connectioon attept fails due to a wrong passward, two attemps whould take a lot of time |
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| 11:49.09 | aitor | the solution is to measure the time of the attemp |
| 11:49.58 | aitor | i've been taking times |
| 11:50.22 | aitor | in the first case, less than 20 miliseconds |
| 11:50.27 | detha | that /could/ be a reason to implement the backend as a daemon (although I am generally opposed to the 'daemons for everything' designs). Hand interface name+ESSID+PASSWD to a daemon, let the daemon sort out retries etc. |
| 11:50.43 | aitor | in the second case more than 7000 miliseconds |
| 11:51.40 | aitor | Ooop, 13:50 |
| 11:51.48 | aitor | need to go, see you :) |
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| 12:31.42 | drawkula | is /etc/binfmt.d a systemd invention? I dont see it on an old wheezy for cubietruck and not in devuan-jessie on PI3. Or: where should I search? which package might be missing? |
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| 12:49.06 | rrq | https://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/binfmt.d.html |
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| 13:36.43 | drawkula | rrq: thanks... that url and man page has several times systemd in it... <trump voice> SO SAD! </trump voice> |
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| 15:33.27 | Wacky_Tobaccy | Anyone here use OpenVZ 7/ Virtuozzo 7? |
| 15:34.56 | Wacky_Tobaccy | Anyone? |
| 15:35.14 | Wacky_Tobaccy | Was hoping someone could help me test the Devuan template for it. |
| 15:36.48 | Wacky_Tobaccy | https://github.com/azilber/openvz7 if anyone is interested. |
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| 16:43.08 | AlexLikeRock | hi |
| 16:43.16 | DPA | hi |
| 16:43.26 | AlexLikeRock | i need help |
| 16:43.44 | DPA | ok |
| 16:44.11 | AlexLikeRock | i run this line |
| 16:44.25 | AlexLikeRock | find / -type f -exec rename 's/\.png$/\.jpg/' * '{}' \; |
| 16:44.32 | AlexLikeRock | so... |
| 16:44.40 | AlexLikeRock | i run at "/" |
| 16:44.56 | AlexLikeRock | by error |
| 16:45.10 | AlexLikeRock | then i lose backgroun |
| 16:45.19 | AlexLikeRock | mouse coursor |
| 16:45.21 | AlexLikeRock | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:47.50 | DPA | Ok, i'll just mate a list of all pngs on my system and upload a script to correct everything, just wait a second... |
| 16:48.15 | AlexLikeRock | the ting , its make switch BACK |
| 16:48.29 | AlexLikeRock | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:48.38 | AlexLikeRock | but, not ALL jpg |
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| 16:48.44 | AlexLikeRock | i need detect |
| 16:49.00 | AlexLikeRock | how are realy PNG renamed to jpg |
| 16:52.46 | furrywolf | find / -type f -name \*.png -exec rename 's/\.png$/\.jpg/' \{\} \; |
| 16:53.14 | DPA | No, that would rename everything |
| 16:53.45 | furrywolf | I missed the start of this conversation. I just saw a statement that could be optimized. :P |
| 16:53.45 | AlexLikeRock | exactly , no rename ALL |
| 16:53.49 | furrywolf | what are you trying to do? |
| 16:54.31 | AlexLikeRock | i rename by error PNG to jpg |
| 16:54.45 | AlexLikeRock | i ned put back to JPG |
| 16:55.11 | AlexLikeRock | but REAL JPG, stay like JPG |
| 16:55.27 | furrywolf | so you have a bunch of .png files with .jpg extensions, and you need to know which they are, and rename them to .png, without changing actual jpegs? |
| 16:55.41 | AlexLikeRock | yes furrywolf |
| 17:00.04 | AlexLikeRock | example : |
| 17:00.20 | AlexLikeRock | file picture1234.jpg |
| 17:00.41 | furrywolf | find / -type f -name \*.png -exec file \{\} \; | grep -i jpeg | cut -d ':' -f 1 | xargs -d '\n' rename -n 's/\.png/\.jpg/' |
| 17:00.45 | AlexLikeRock | PNG image data, progressive, precision 8, |
| 17:01.39 | furrywolf | there may be a prettier way to do it, but that should work |
| 17:02.00 | furrywolf | remove the -n from the rename after verifying it's doing sane things |
| 17:02.22 | furrywolf | oh, I got it backwards. |
| 17:02.32 | furrywolf | sec |
| 17:03.35 | furrywolf | find / -type f -name \*.jpg -exec file \{\} \; | grep -i png | cut -d ':' -f 1 | xargs -d '\n' rename -n 's/\.jpg/\.png/' |
| 17:03.58 | furrywolf | won't work if your files have colons or newlines in the name. deal with it. :P |
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| 17:04.58 | furrywolf | with the -n on the rename, it will tell you what it would do, but not do it. remove the -n to actually perform the renames. |
| 17:05.40 | DPA | Or put the following into a file: |
| 17:05.51 | DPA | #!/bin/sh |
| 17:05.51 | DPA | jpg="$1" |
| 17:05.51 | DPA | png="$(printf "$1" | head -c -4).png" |
| 17:05.51 | DPA | echo "$png" |
| 17:05.53 | DPA | if ! dpkg -S "$jpg" &>/dev/null && dpkg -S "$png" &>/dev/null |
| 17:05.56 | DPA | then |
| 17:05.58 | DPA | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:06.01 | DPA | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:06.03 | DPA | fi |
| 17:06.30 | DPA | Then chmod +x scriptfile |
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| 17:07.15 | furrywolf | that would only work for images from installed packages. |
| 17:07.17 | DPA | And then: find / -iname "*.jpg" -not -path /home/ -not -path /usr/local/ -not -path /usr/src/ -exec ./scriptfile {} \; |
| 17:08.19 | furrywolf | did I miss where he said it was only images from packages? heh |
| 17:08.24 | AlexLikeRock | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:09.24 | DPA | Shouldn't matter. -name works too. Havn't tested it thought, and dpkg may print some wornings. |
| 17:09.58 | AlexLikeRock | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:10.02 | furrywolf | AlexLikeRock: what did you do to mis-name the files? does it affect only files installed by dpkg? |
| 17:10.28 | AlexLikeRock | extension files |
| 17:10.38 | AlexLikeRock | at root |
| 17:10.43 | AlexLikeRock | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:11.34 | furrywolf | so you renamed files everywhere on the system, not just those installed by dpkg? |
| 17:12.29 | furrywolf | did you see what is output by find / -type f -name \*.jpg -exec file \{\} \; | grep -i png | cut -d ':' -f 1 | xargs -d '\n' rename -n 's/\.jpg/\.png/' |
| 17:12.54 | furrywolf | did you mis-name them in a case-sensitive or case-insensitive fashion? |
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| 17:17.05 | AlexLikeRock | <PROTECTED> |
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| 17:18.01 | furrywolf | ok, so DPA's script that depends on dpkg won't work, then. it'll only fix ones installed as part of packages. |
| 17:18.13 | furrywolf | try the command I gave. If it looks correct, remove the -n and run it again. |
| 17:18.14 | AlexLikeRock | furrywolf, yesah, this are solution |
| 17:18.18 | AlexLikeRock | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:21.07 | furrywolf | sigh. did you rename them in a case-sensitive or case-insensitive fashion? what did you do to mis-name them? |
| 17:21.36 | AlexLikeRock | yes, work fine , without "-n" |
| 17:21.43 | AlexLikeRock | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:21.51 | furrywolf | good :) |
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| 17:23.19 | furrywolf | that command very uglyly (it's a word now!) chains together several unix commands... find looks for .jpg files, file identifies them, grep looks for ones where file said they're pngs, cut grabs the part before the ':' find printed, which is the filename, then xargs sends all those filenames to rename. lol |
| 17:24.18 | furrywolf | it's not done well - it will break if you have filenames containing a colon or a newline. but I figured it's pretty unlikely you have any of those. a cleaner version wouldn't break like that, but I didn't want to spend much time thinking about it. :) |
| 17:26.20 | AlexLikeRock | dot worrye, tanks so much |
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| 17:29.03 | furrywolf | now, the right way to do it is to send systemd-file-renamer a dbus message from systemd-image-analysis service.... :P |
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| 17:46.20 | djph | furrywolf: you forgot allowing systemd-imager to listen to systemd-human-input |
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| 18:09.21 | nepugia | furrywolf: you forgot the required gnome frontend |
| 18:09.29 | greenjeans | I think I create more bugs than I find and squash |
| 18:10.35 | nepugia | greenjeans: happens to everyone :) |
| 18:10.47 | DPA | Does anyone know when aitor will show up again? I need to ask him which compiler he uses for simple-netaid-gtk, because gcc4.9 from jessie doesn't appear to support c++11 threads. |
| 18:12.00 | greenjeans | i got another weird small one, and it's definitely me, not devuan or mate (which is what i'm working on) |
| 18:12.21 | golinux | DPA: aitor is like a flame in the wind . . . :) |
| 18:13.43 | greenjeans | making a very small bare mate mini, built up package by package instead of using the meta-packages or tasks, so it's probably missing something here |
| 18:14.26 | greenjeans | have set a bunch of custom keybindings, and they work fine, as long as you click on the empty desktop in between trying to use them |
| 18:14.58 | greenjeans | not like that on my other mate install, so i know it's not mate that's broken, something i don't have somewhere |
| 18:16.50 | nepugia | hmm missing x packages, had a problem where it would map the trackpad 1:1 on the monitor, do you have all required x input drivers installed? |
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| 18:26.48 | greenjeans | i do |
| 18:27.38 | greenjeans | seems they are all there, checking for differences between working install and the mess i'm making now |
| 18:29.31 | greenjeans | the keybindings will also all work properly if I have the keyboard-shortcuts gui open, or the dconf-editor open, you can click any one of them as many times as you want and they keep working |
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| 18:30.42 | greenjeans | but other than that, you get one click of a keycombo and you can't get it to work again until you right-click the mouse somewhere on the desktop |
| 18:31.07 | greenjeans | *edit* make that left-click the mouse |
| 18:31.54 | nepugia | for some reason wine comes to mind, but i kinda doubt that is the problem |
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| 19:11.18 | greenjeans | http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-newbie-8/keyboard-shortcuts-only-work-after-clicking-on-the-desktop-818405/ |
| 19:11.58 | greenjeans | only other similar problem I could find, and this guy's issue apparently went away all on it's own |
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| 19:17.19 | aitor | hi DPA |
| 19:18.35 | aitor | i'm building simple-netaid in ascii |
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| 19:26.57 | aitor | DPA: but i started building it in jessie with -std=gnu++11 |
| 19:27.53 | aitor | no idea about incompatibilities with c++11 threads |
| 19:29.47 | aitor | the spinner uses the Glib::Threads::Thread class and worked in jessie |
| 19:31.24 | aitor | look at the ActiveWifis class, it was my first step |
| 19:32.35 | DPA | Ok, thanks |
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| 19:34.20 | DPA | I'm currently working on a c++ wrapper around fork & exec to replace system. I think it may be possible to avoid the tcp socket using file descriptor inheritance. |
| 19:35.49 | aitor | no idea what are you talking about :( |
| 19:36.28 | aitor | fork & exec ? |
| 19:38.01 | DPA | System just takes the whole command, but fork & exec allow to start a process and specify individual arguments. That way, the arguments don't need escaping. |
| 19:38.03 | aitor | DPA: it's not a tcp socket, it's a udp |
| 19:38.09 | aitor | but similar... |
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| 19:39.23 | aitor | i'm lost :) |
| 19:41.28 | DPA | Anyways, it's possible to use the socketpair function to optain an unix socket with internal udp protocol. Sockets are just filedescriptors. When a program is started in linux, it inherits all filedescriptors from the calling programm which don't have the SO_CLOEXEC flag set. |
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| 19:47.36 | aitor | i read about the filedescriptors |
| 19:50.22 | detha | DPA: I've been wondering, when you use anonymous unix sockets like that, what is the difference in functionality with using pipe() + fork() ? |
| 19:50.40 | aitor | so, the udp protocol is possible within an unix socket using a "socketpair" function... |
| 19:51.45 | DPA | Yes, and unix sockets allow to pass filedescriptors between applications. |
| 19:52.03 | aitor | thanks, DPA |
| 19:52.26 | aitor | sorry, but need to go :) |
| 19:52.31 | DPA | ok |
| 19:52.44 | aitor | see you tomorrow, thanks |
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| 21:59.06 | greenjeans | golinux: you rock |
| 22:00.05 | golinux | is speechless |
| 22:00.18 | golinux | What did I do now? LOL! |
| 22:01.15 | greenjeans | hehe, you just rock, that's all, you made my day which has otherwise been very frustrating |
| 22:04.17 | golinux | Ah Vuu-do. I was a little slow getting around to posting that but better late yada, yada |
| 22:06.15 | greenjeans | well I appreciate it a lot, was really cool seeing it there, made the effort worthwhile, I got the openbox RC-1 out a couple days ago, and am working on the mate alpha now |
| 22:07.38 | greenjeans | I gotta run for now, have a great evening everyone! |
| 22:07.39 | golinux | It's been added to the list in the upcoming stable announcement too. |
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| 22:54.18 | koris | are there any other good linux distros that don't use systemd? |
| 22:55.15 | MinceR | slackware, funtoo |
| 22:56.00 | nepugia | good is prety subjective, here is a list of distros http://without-systemd.org/wiki/index.php/Main_Page (no idea if they are good or not) |
| 22:56.17 | koris | ah, thank you |
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| 23:22.29 | zono50 | Hola gnarface |
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| 23:30.56 | tarbz2 | Hola, veo idioma español :) |
| 23:31.58 | Sleaker | koris: I think the most tested one is mx16 |
| 23:32.46 | zono50 | poquito senior |
| 23:33.50 | golinux | MX offers sysvinit as default but it's hardly free of systemd! In fact they offer instructions on how to enable systemd! https://mxlinux.org/wiki/system/systemd I only found this a few days ago and was shocked because so many people are hyping MX as systemd-free. I don't see this as a long term strategy because the ability to use other init systems can be denied at any time. It also doesn't address the issue of 'entanglements'. I have used St |
| 23:33.50 | golinux | eve Pusser's repos in the past and they have always been compatible but if they are riddled with systemd deps that is probably now a risky choice for devuan users. |
| 23:34.29 | tarbz2 | Seguramente tendrás más español que yo inglés ;) |
| 23:34.34 | zono50 | so i read a news story saying that systemd has some sort of security vulnerability where you can access all of someones files |
| 23:39.24 | Sleaker | 'This page simply provides information for those interested in the question.' |
| 23:39.34 | Sleaker | 'The MX Linux team strongly urges users to remain with this configuration which uses sysvinit instead' |
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| 23:49.05 | nepugia | pretty happy with the init freedom i have here, using openrc ob all my jessie installs ( did when those systems were debian too, but could not remove libsystemd0, so i changed my os :) ) |
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| 23:53.11 | zono50 | me too, i love it |
| 23:55.56 | gnarface | yo zono50 |
| 23:56.06 | zono50 | whats up |
| 23:56.21 | gnarface | nothing, you flagged me |
| 23:56.30 | zono50 | flagged? |
| 23:56.35 | gnarface | did you figure out that wineprefix stuff? |
| 23:56.40 | zono50 | ah, yeah i did |
| 23:56.44 | gnarface | oh, good |
| 23:57.23 | zono50 | next i gotta set up my ipvanish vpn, but can't remember my password -_- |
| 23:57.52 | gnarface | heh |
| 23:58.11 | zono50 | looking at the wine directory, why is there a dosdevices folder and a drive c folder, what's the difference? |
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| 23:59.49 | gnarface | the dosdevices c:\ is just a symlink to drive_c |
| 23:59.59 | gnarface | they look like different directories but they're just the same directory |