| 00:01.57 | Se7en | I just bought this from the local computer store |
| 00:02.20 | Se7en | On one end is the SATA and on the other end are two USB cords, nothing labled |
| 00:02.29 | Se7en | One is obviously power and the other is data |
| 00:02.54 | Se7en | Plugging one in tunrs on the green light on the top of the machine |
| 00:03.06 | Se7en | That is, the sata side plug |
| 00:03.16 | Se7en | Doesn't matter which |
| 00:03.33 | Se7en | Both are plugged in, it doesn't seem to work |
| 00:03.38 | Se7en | Is it efective? |
| 00:04.32 | Se7en | s/efective/defective/g |
| 00:06.14 | Se7en | The HDD doesn't even make any noiser |
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| 00:34.52 | gnarface | Se7en: i can't say, however it does sound like the device uses an extra USB cable to gain enough power. could it be possible your USB ports don't provide enough? (likely, if you trying to do this on a raspberry pi) |
| 00:35.25 | gnarface | Se7en: anyway i'm pretty sure you need both plugged in for it to work |
| 00:35.46 | gnarface | that would explain why you don't have a separate power supply |
| 00:36.04 | gnarface | Se7en: what does dmesg output when you plug it in? |
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| 07:31.52 | ryuujin | p/list |
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| 10:26.47 | DocScrutinizer05 | sudo apt-get purge eject |
| 10:27.22 | DocScrutinizer05 | CVE-2017-6964 |
| 10:28.55 | DocScrutinizer05 | idly wonders why a server needs any of that stuff |
| 10:34.11 | gnarface | hotplug drives |
| 10:34.26 | gnarface | (and usb sticks) |
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| 10:35.07 | gnarface | the fix is already in ceres though |
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| 11:59.32 | KatolaZ | Centurion_Dan1: are you still there? |
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| 15:59.20 | telmich | good evening |
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| 16:05.02 | AntoFox | o/ |
| 16:14.20 | Chanku | Hey |
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| 16:40.17 | telmich | Is anyone interested in re-packaging the OpenNebula debs for Devuan? Currently they miss init scripts and have dependencies on systemd binaries. We at ungleich.ch would be glad to actually pay someone doing it regularly |
| 16:41.37 | telmich | After our initial experiences with Devuan (see https://twitter.com/Datacenterlight), we are rather intrigued to built a somehow large scale cluster on Devuan; not only because things work smoothly, but also Devuan puts the fun back into Linux for our company |
| 16:41.58 | telmich | (yes, there are some people feeling grey bearded with us) |
| 16:45.29 | jaromil | hi telmich yes following your progress :^) I'm a bit surprised as opennebula people know devuan and supported us also in having devuan as base OS on their market |
| 16:45.41 | jaromil | have you tried first asking them directly? I can give you a couple of contacts |
| 16:50.55 | ryuujin | hi |
| 16:51.23 | Chanku | hi |
| 16:51.42 | parazyd | golinux: o/ |
| 16:51.46 | parazyd | you're on xfce, right? |
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| 16:52.52 | aitor | hi |
| 16:53.18 | golinux | parazyd: Yes. Xfce |
| 16:53.26 | parazyd | how do you shutdown/reboot? |
| 16:53.37 | telmich | jaromil: actually I haven't yet -- if you do have contacts their, I definitely would appreciate getting in touch |
| 16:54.42 | telmich | We are currently also working on cdist (a configuration management system) to make it create us a netbootable version of devuan that we can use for the data center |
| 16:55.20 | golinux | parazyd: From the logout options gui or terminal sometimes |
| 16:56.04 | parazyd | logout options work for you? |
| 16:56.09 | parazyd | this is why i'm asking |
| 16:56.11 | golinux | Yup |
| 16:56.15 | parazyd | it only allows us to log out atm |
| 16:56.18 | parazyd | the new installers |
| 16:56.21 | parazyd | other icons are blocked |
| 16:56.30 | parazyd | jaromil: ^^ |
| 16:56.35 | parazyd | works for golinux |
| 16:56.37 | golinux | upower? |
| 16:56.47 | parazyd | i've no idea of a fix |
| 16:57.00 | aitor | parazyd: i press the poweroff button with my finger |
| 16:57.38 | parazyd | yeah that's all fine, but this stuff needs to work |
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| 16:57.42 | parazyd | the xfce menu |
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| 16:58.14 | golinux | I have logout shutdown reboot suspend and hibernate options. Hibernate doesn't work though. |
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| 16:58.29 | aitor | today i did changes in simple-netaid-gtk, and now the statusicon works succesfully |
| 16:58.37 | aitor | but i need to test it better |
| 16:58.50 | aitor | the issue was in Glib::Dispatcher |
| 16:59.20 | parazyd | golinux: in the latest installer, after installation i get to the desktop, and there's the icons missing (which we know of), but the xfce logout menu now has everything greyed out except 'log out' |
| 16:59.25 | aitor | it is used for sending notifications from the backend thread to the froontend thread |
| 16:59.26 | golinux | I have a launcher in the panel |
| 16:59.27 | parazyd | which gets me to slim login |
| 17:00.14 | golinux | That's screwed up. |
| 17:00.46 | golinux | Dan got that working back in 2015 on jessie |
| 17:01.17 | aitor | both contains data which is accessed by both threads, but only the gui thread updates the gui |
| 17:01.42 | aitor | parazyd, golinux: are you in ascii? |
| 17:01.52 | golinux | Nope Jessie. |
| 17:02.06 | parazyd | no this is a jessie issue |
| 17:02.17 | golinux | Somebody was working on upower recently |
| 17:02.17 | parazyd | ascii isn't being (actively) worked on yet |
| 17:02.42 | aitor | never happened to me |
| 17:02.58 | golinux | Well, I have upower and libupower-glib1 installed |
| 17:03.02 | aitor | but i only use xfce time to time |
| 17:03.23 | golinux | And there is something i xfce to. Give me a sec |
| 17:04.18 | golinux | There are several xfce4-power-manager related pkgs. |
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| 17:05.59 | aitor | this is the first app migrated gtk3, i think: |
| 17:06.00 | aitor | https://git.xfce.org/xfce/xfce4-power-manager |
| 17:06.49 | aitor | see you later :) |
| 17:09.56 | fsmithred | parazyd, did you install from CD, DVD or netinstall? |
| 17:10.09 | parazyd | cd |
| 17:10.15 | parazyd | netinst was "better" |
| 17:10.31 | parazyd | better = had desktop icons |
| 17:10.37 | fsmithred | yeah, I did a CD install with beta2 a while back, and lots of stuff was not installed |
| 17:10.47 | parazyd | i didn't check the menu after netinst |
| 17:11.06 | fsmithred | I can tell you in a minute - I did one yesterday |
| 17:11.16 | fsmithred | pretty sure I already tested suspend |
| 17:12.13 | fsmithred | ok, I'm booting "unknown linux distribution on /dev/sda11" |
| 17:12.55 | fsmithred | I thought os-prober got fixed upstream to recognize devuan, but maybe I was dreaming |
| 17:13.54 | parazyd | oh yeah, the installs i did also had vanilla debian grub |
| 17:13.57 | parazyd | and said 'debian' |
| 17:14.41 | fsmithred | yeah, that's a desktop-base thing |
| 17:14.48 | parazyd | i see |
| 17:15.01 | fsmithred | one workaround is to add a line to /etc/default/grub to set the theme |
| 17:15.18 | fsmithred | that was done in beta2, I think, but un-done in later builds |
| 17:15.30 | fsmithred | I did it in the live |
| 17:15.50 | fsmithred | and suspend does work in my amd64 netinstall |
| 17:16.03 | fsmithred | no hibernate, but that's probably because I have no swap |
| 17:16.30 | fsmithred | check the CD installation for policykit, consolekit, libpam-ck-connector |
| 17:17.13 | parazyd | will do tomorrow |
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| 17:19.24 | greenjeans | hey fsmithred, yep, os-prober still no devuan love |
| 17:19.41 | parazyd | you should just upstream it |
| 17:19.41 | greenjeans | having to do it manually |
| 17:19.50 | parazyd | send a patch |
| 17:19.52 | fsmithred | I got around that by creating /etc/lsb-release |
| 17:20.35 | fsmithred | patch may have been submitted. Not sure. I know David Hare posted the fix on dng |
| 17:20.51 | fsmithred | and/or refracta forum |
| 17:20.56 | greenjeans | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:20.56 | greenjeans | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:20.56 | greenjeans | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:21.17 | greenjeans | it did get posted on Refracta forum, that's where I got it |
| 17:21.21 | fsmithred | how many distros are already in the code? |
| 17:21.34 | greenjeans | like 15 or so? |
| 17:21.55 | parazyd | debian is the upstream for os-prober, send them an email |
| 17:21.56 | fsmithred | well, maybe they're waiting to see if we're a live birth or not. |
| 17:21.58 | parazyd | http://packages.debian.org/source/sid/os-prober |
| 17:23.54 | greenjeans | oops, more like 30, and that's just in the 90-linux-distro script |
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| 17:26.58 | greenjeans | installed/used the new Refracta tools last night, great work! about to clear this machine out and start playing with efi installs |
| 17:27.18 | fsmithred | where is 90-linux-distro? I can't find that file. |
| 17:27.54 | greenjeans | usr/lib/os-probes/mounted/ |
| 17:28.19 | greenjeans | 90linux-distro |
| 17:28.37 | fsmithred | no mounted/ here |
| 17:28.58 | fsmithred | you on uefi now? |
| 17:29.37 | greenjeans | no /mounted/ ? Are you in os-probes or os-prober folder? I have both |
| 17:29.56 | fsmithred | yes, I do have that file |
| 17:30.33 | greenjeans | my machine is uefi, but has legacy mode in bios to turn it off, gonna clear out this machine and re-partition and re-enable it to test once I run the iso's |
| 17:30.52 | greenjeans | need to read more |
| 17:31.15 | greenjeans | does efi use GPT? |
| 17:31.23 | fsmithred | yes |
| 17:32.25 | greenjeans | I wonder where that 90linux-distro file is on your machine? desktop environment shouldn't have anything to do with it.... |
| 17:32.25 | fsmithred | good for testing - I have around 15 installations on my test machine |
| 17:32.35 | fsmithred | right where it should be |
| 17:32.43 | greenjeans | oh you found it? |
| 17:32.48 | fsmithred | what I don't have is 90-linux-distros |
| 17:33.03 | fsmithred | yeah |
| 17:33.21 | greenjeans | i have 90 linux distros |
| 17:33.22 | fsmithred | I see magic-release, blackPanther, ark |
| 17:33.45 | greenjeans | all in a nice big pile of old CD's |
| 17:33.50 | greenjeans | lol |
| 17:33.52 | fsmithred | 90linux-distros |
| 17:34.13 | fsmithred | oh, you mean you have 90 of them |
| 17:34.43 | fsmithred | hours of entertainment putting them in the microwave |
| 17:34.45 | greenjeans | no, i thought you were messing with me for typing the wrong file name |
| 17:34.50 | greenjeans | lol |
| 17:35.07 | greenjeans | 90linux-distro is the right name |
| 17:35.15 | greenjeans | got like 30 listings in there |
| 17:36.13 | greenjeans | but seriously, i have a giant pile of cd's i should really throw away |
| 17:36.24 | greenjeans | or make some art |
| 17:36.43 | greenjeans | maybe a sculpture |
| 17:36.50 | greenjeans | the beast of linux past |
| 17:37.00 | fsmithred | lol |
| 17:39.52 | greenjeans | I'll have some efi-install results for ya at least off a Compaq CQ58, maybe another machine too but the wife is getting a little burnt on surprise new OS'es when she boots up her machine |
| 17:40.12 | greenjeans | so unreasonable at times |
| 17:40.18 | greenjeans | ;-) |
| 17:40.27 | fsmithred | too bad, I'd really like to hear how it plays with windows |
| 17:40.31 | fsmithred | although |
| 17:40.47 | fsmithred | I expect it to be the same as devuan or debian - grub just takes over |
| 17:41.19 | fsmithred | I did a regular install of refracta on a machine with win7 last week, and it worked fine |
| 17:41.19 | greenjeans | I don't even have a copy of windows past 7 to try it |
| 17:42.00 | fsmithred | if it nukes any windows later than 7, I'll name it as a new feature |
| 17:42.07 | greenjeans | it definitely works fine on multi-boot at home on the old XP machine |
| 17:42.27 | greenjeans | lol, that would be a great feature! |
| 17:45.07 | fsmithred | well, actually, it already has that feature |
| 17:45.10 | fsmithred | sort of |
| 17:45.22 | fsmithred | or maybe not |
| 17:45.41 | fsmithred | simple install assumes /dev/sda1 for the installation, or maybe it used to do that |
| 17:45.45 | fsmithred | but... |
| 17:45.53 | fsmithred | no automatic partitioning in refractainstaller |
| 17:46.39 | fsmithred | brb |
| 17:46.46 | greenjeans | me too |
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| 18:52.29 | Cynch | hello |
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| 18:52.38 | Cynch | today is fix linux wednesday |
| 18:52.55 | Cynch | today's gripe: wine doesn't work and I can't run any windooz things |
| 18:53.13 | furrywolf | that doesn't sound like linux's problem. |
| 18:53.25 | Cynch | but muh vidye games |
| 18:53.29 | furrywolf | try using better software. |
| 18:53.42 | golinux | Boo-hoo |
| 18:53.45 | parazyd | Cynch: what's wrong, wine is supposed to work fine |
| 18:53.46 | Cynch | I want to run paint.net and play civ II |
| 18:54.06 | golinux | Not much oinfo to go on |
| 18:54.14 | Cynch | I'm running LXDE and installing wine didn't add wine to the panel |
| 18:54.16 | golinux | OS? |
| 18:54.22 | Cynch | apparently it's installed, but I don't really know where it went |
| 18:54.34 | Cynch | devuan-lxde |
| 18:54.38 | parazyd | Cynch: playonlinux is very useful if you don't know what to do |
| 18:54.43 | parazyd | try giving it a shot |
| 18:54.51 | Cynch | will playonlinux run other software such as paint.net? |
| 18:55.00 | parazyd | it should |
| 18:55.12 | furrywolf | why would wine be on a "panel"? it's something that runs other programs, not a useful program on its own. |
| 18:55.12 | parazyd | you just install it like any other thing |
| 18:55.14 | Cynch | alright I'll see what happens |
| 18:55.44 | Cynch | also synaptic won't launch from the panel shortcut because I don't have root privileges |
| 18:56.46 | Cynch | play on linux is not coming up in synaptic |
| 19:01.04 | parazyd | you have to get it from the website i think |
| 19:01.47 | parazyd | https://www.playonlinux.com/en/download.html |
| 19:01.57 | parazyd | try the debian edition |
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| 19:02.28 | tallship | Cynch: Can't you 'su -' to root? Well, regardless, do a 'which <progname' to find out where something you installed is - for nonpriv users it's usually in /usr/bin or if it is already part of the system then often just /bin. Wherever your application is located, try these links (first one might be the one you want but read the others): https://lkubaski.wordpress.com/2012/06/29/adding-lxde-start-menu-and-desktop-shortcuts/ and |
| 19:02.28 | tallship | https://lkubaski.wordpress.com/2012/11/09/adding-lxde-taskbar-shortcuts/ and http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/177386/how-can-i-add-applications-to-the-lxpanel-application-launch-bar-via-cli and http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/28100/how-does-one-add-an-application-to-the-lxde-panel |
| 19:02.34 | tallship | I hope that helps :) |
| 19:03.16 | Cynch | right now I'm trying to figure out how to install playonlinux |
| 19:03.31 | tallship | hm.... I don't even know what that is. |
| 19:03.46 | parazyd | Cynch: https://www.playonlinux.com/en/download.html |
| 19:03.48 | Cynch | I'm trying to get all of my windows conveniences onto linux |
| 19:04.19 | Cynch | it's hard, because devuan still isn't finished. It feels more like arch in terms of the amount of work involved |
| 19:04.47 | Cynch | I've grabbed the debian download and now I don't know what to do with it |
| 19:04.52 | Lydia_K | windows doesn't have conveniences, it has crutches. |
| 19:05.45 | Cynch | yeah well.. when I press print screen on linux, I know what it does |
| 19:05.53 | Cynch | when I press alt + printscreen I know what it does |
| 19:06.09 | tallship | If you d/l'd the .deb you should just be able to install it w/dpkg |
| 19:06.10 | Cynch | here, I'm using gnome printscreen or something and it asks me each time which thing I want it to do |
| 19:07.28 | tallship | I would recommend intsalling virtualbox.org, and then installing a wYNd0z3 machine inside of that if you want those [in]conveniences. In my experience there are only three things that you need an emulator or wYNd0z3 box for: |
| 19:07.28 | Cynch | what do I do with dpkg? |
| 19:07.53 | Cynch | running paint.net in it's own virtual machine will not be efficient |
| 19:07.53 | tallship | 1.) Quicken (I use dolibar and frontaccounting - so don't need it) |
| 19:07.57 | Cynch | it is a memory hungry application |
| 19:07.57 | Lydia_K | dpkg -i file.deb |
| 19:08.35 | tallship | 2.) Adobe stuff like photoshop and dreamweaver - I use GIMP and code with other IDEs |
| 19:09.13 | tallship | 3.) vSphere - I actually use a windows VM for that, but you can use SLES applicances instead. |
| 19:09.52 | Cynch | the equivalent of paint.net in linux is pinta |
| 19:10.04 | tallship | ah... I'll go look that up. Thanks :) |
| 19:10.13 | Cynch | source-wise, it's open, but feature-wise, it's obsolete |
| 19:10.38 | Cynch | I've heard krita is good too, although that is more a replacement for photoshop |
| 19:10.50 | tallship | Krita is good |
| 19:11.06 | Cynch | I'll go ahead and download it and try it out for what it's worth |
| 19:11.25 | Cynch | it's a big program |
| 19:12.04 | tallship | Um... you don't have root? |
| 19:12.31 | tallship | coz you should just be able to 'apt-get install <prog> |
| 19:12.38 | Cynch | to get synaptic to run, I'm using the terminal -su |
| 19:12.50 | Cynch | krita is in there |
| 19:12.54 | tallship | Okay kewl :) |
| 19:12.57 | Cynch | playonlinux doesn't appear to be |
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| 19:14.40 | Cynch | apparently installing playonlinux caused dependency problems |
| 19:14.50 | Cynch | which it expects me to fix manually |
| 19:16.06 | tallship | well I've only tried out synaptic on a couple of occasions. 'man apt-get' should explain what all you can do to browse repos in your sources.list and determine deps, or add repos you'll need for those deps. |
| 19:16.18 | lowee[m] | and i'm just here using drawpile for my drawing needs :g (it's an appimage so give it a try!) |
| 19:17.02 | Cynch | may as well, seeing as today is also 'install whatever day' |
| 19:17.28 | Cynch | apparently not in the repositories either |
| 19:17.35 | Cynch | why do the repositories suck so much |
| 19:18.01 | tallship | I'm a Slacker true and through, so I compile all my stuff with build scripts and build packages for them myself, then distribute them along with their deps. |
| 19:18.26 | lowee[m] | drawpile isn't much packaged since you can download it as an appimage from their website (appimage beeing a container format which contains all needed dependencies) |
| 19:18.27 | tallship | prolly because people like you are needed to create the demand in this beta stage lolz ;) |
| 19:19.24 | Cynch | I'm migrating from windows 7, because 8 & 10 are a dead horse |
| 19:19.46 | Cynch | soon as I'm here I want steam's proprietary marketplace and muh gaymes |
| 19:20.06 | Cynch | I've not tried the non-free repos yet |
| 19:20.11 | Cynch | but I bet steam isn't there |
| 19:20.34 | lowee[m] | apt-cache search <package> |
| 19:21.02 | lowee[m] | after you added the non-free and done an apt-get update |
| 19:22.23 | Chanku | that was fun :| |
| 19:22.49 | lowee[m] | (as for debian i know that steam is in the non-free repos, apt-cache on my current devuan sais the same so it's probably there :p) |
| 19:23.16 | Chanku | For those wondering I just rebuilt the package for vim so I could use python3 bindings |
| 19:23.41 | Cynch | is python actually used for stuff other than fretsonfire? |
| 19:23.48 | lowee[m] | heh.. python is still a thing :/ |
| 19:23.48 | tallship | OH you're not going to find squat for good stuff if you don't add non-free repos. GPL/BSD 2-clause/Apache/Artistic - those are most of the licenses permissive under the Debian/Devuan philo - |
| 19:23.56 | lowee[m] | yes, for playonlinux :p |
| 19:24.33 | Cynch | well, when I tried installing it it didn't resolve those dependencies |
| 19:24.45 | lowee[m] | the only stuff i ever needed out of non-free was firmware and steam (also nvidia drivers when on a desktop with nvidia card) |
| 19:24.57 | lowee[m] | Cynch: with what are you trying to install playonlinx? |
| 19:25.09 | Lydia_K | I think I'm in the same camp as you lowee[m] |
| 19:25.14 | tallship | Hey, since you're an artist... https://code.google.com/archive/p/svg-edit/ Works well in Chromium. Took me a min but I fired up a wYnd0z3 box to show a screenie: https://content.screencast.com/users/NorthTech.US/folders/Jing/media/68838e80-9eba-4d24-ad0f-054a248724b8/2017-03-29_1220.png |
| 19:25.31 | Lydia_K | practically the only thing I use steam for is FTL <3 |
| 19:25.32 | parazyd | Chanku: you managed? what was the fix? |
| 19:27.15 | Chanku | It took a bit, but after adding some things to that one file, and one other thing I can't remember atm, I got it to work |
| 19:27.17 | Cynch | it doesn't look anywhere near as useful as paint.net tbh |
| 19:29.42 | lowee[m] | Lydia_K: well, trying to use gog installers if i can :p |
| 19:30.02 | tallship | I have to get back to work and deploy another cloudstack pod and cluster buoys and gulls... |
| 19:30.10 | Lydia_K | later tallship |
| 19:30.51 | Lydia_K | lowee[m]: I'm a big Nintendo fan myself, so the majority of my gaming happens there, but FTL <3 especially with the Captains Edition Mod, oh goodness, so good <3 |
| 19:30.54 | tallship | Take care Lydia_K :) |
| 19:30.58 | tallship | has finished sunning his soft white underbelly, and slithers away back under his rock to the venom den. |
| 19:31.55 | Lydia_K | LOL! |
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| 20:02.38 | ponchale | hi peopñe |
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| 20:02.55 | ponchale | people |
| 20:06.25 | lowee[m] | hello probably human! |
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| 20:08.42 | greenjeans | back |
| 20:08.52 | greenjeans | squashing |
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| 20:11.42 | greenjeans | still squashing |
| 20:15.11 | furrywolf | squashes Lydia_K |
| 20:16.32 | greenjeans | i love xz but it's like watching paint dry |
| 20:17.31 | Lydia_K | flattens |
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| 20:18.40 | greenjeans | my weak old laptop doesn't like it much |
| 20:18.44 | greenjeans | very sad |
| 20:19.41 | greenjeans | squashing a new iso with programs added this time to save time on converts that I have to do all myself |
| 20:20.56 | furrywolf | curls up on top of |
| 20:21.03 | greenjeans | still faster than a netinstall |
| 20:21.13 | fsmithred | what's your cpu? |
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| 20:21.39 | greenjeans | amd cheapie 2-core apu |
| 20:21.49 | furrywolf | you need a r7, obviously. :) |
| 20:21.52 | greenjeans | like 1.0 ghz speed |
| 20:21.58 | fsmithred | ouch |
| 20:22.02 | greenjeans | yep |
| 20:22.07 | furrywolf | 8 cores for $299! |
| 20:22.09 | fsmithred | you check your temperature? |
| 20:22.27 | greenjeans | yeah, it runs pretty cool |
| 20:22.41 | greenjeans | but just an old netbook really |
| 20:22.50 | greenjeans | got it used for cheap |
| 20:23.03 | fsmithred | on my old dual-core athlon, it takes about 20 minutes using just xz compression, on quad i7 it takes three minutes. |
| 20:23.16 | greenjeans | had windoze 8, i think that's why somebody sold it |
| 20:23.35 | fsmithred | I mean make sure it runs cool while you're making the snapshot |
| 20:23.37 | greenjeans | hey, i got a dual-core athlon in my old machine |
| 20:23.49 | greenjeans | socket 939 |
| 20:23.51 | fsmithred | wow |
| 20:23.56 | fsmithred | mine is the gen after that |
| 20:24.02 | fsmithred | windsor core |
| 20:24.04 | greenjeans | still the fastest machine in the house |
| 20:24.15 | fsmithred | they're great |
| 20:24.42 | greenjeans | the system i built on it is 100% optimized for it, did kinda like a reverse gentoo build |
| 20:24.52 | greenjeans | crazy fast |
| 20:26.02 | greenjeans | if you've got an athlon, i'll dig out a copy of that OS, you should try it as a livecd, fast and fun, gnome 2 |
| 20:26.33 | greenjeans | hardcore modded, chopped |
| 20:27.16 | greenjeans | I even re-wrote a ton of system files, got rid of mountains of translations |
| 20:27.45 | greenjeans | it'll run on 128 mb of ram |
| 20:27.57 | fsmithred | cool |
| 20:28.06 | greenjeans | not well, but it will do it, 512 and it's pretty happy |
| 20:28.48 | greenjeans | I started the current squash 28 minutes ago..... |
| 20:29.11 | greenjeans | but doing larger iso this time, should compress to around 550-600 mb |
| 20:30.02 | greenjeans | the bigger ones have been taking around 45 minutes on this machine |
| 20:30.38 | greenjeans | other machine I mean, stole the wife's laptop today so I could multi-task |
| 20:30.43 | ponchale | Centurion_Dan: and jaromil with the intention of development a desktop enviroment different we are development a desktop based on Lxqt for much more performance and options for customizer is possible what our desktop be the default and used in devuan? |
| 20:31.15 | greenjeans | right now i'm writing nonsense on her facebook wall, the penalty you pay for not logging out, lol |
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| 20:33.11 | lowee[m] | facebook stil exists? |
| 20:34.07 | markizano | ^ +1 |
| 20:34.57 | greenjeans | apparently |
| 20:35.10 | greenjeans | I never see it until i use her lappy |
| 20:35.29 | greenjeans | not missing anything lemme tell ya |
| 20:35.57 | Centurion_Dan | ponchale: currently xfce4. LXDE has some systemd dependencies that need to be fixed. |
| 20:38.04 | greenjeans | Libreoffice still makes main menu seize up on first opening of menu in session, default behavior still to use SVG's, lame, glad I don't use office programs |
| 20:39.18 | ponchale | Centurion_Dan: we're using Lxqt is different to LXDE |
| 20:41.40 | Centurion_Dan | ok. I didn't know, as have never gone back to anything much in QT after the licensing debacle that arose around it, and I was burned by KDE ;-) |
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| 20:49.10 | ponchale | Well we use Qt and some KDE dependencies in favor of people who are in a very fluid and much more optimal desktop of KDE and other desks |
| 21:01.55 | greenjeans | 58 minutes |
| 21:02.02 | greenjeans | 533.7 mb |
| 21:10.28 | fsmithred | does it boot? |
| 21:13.55 | greenjeans | burning it now, it should, this is not efi-enables yet |
| 21:15.50 | greenjeans | that's next |
| 21:16.27 | greenjeans | gotta still burn a backup for the main partition I use before I fry it all and go GPT for efi testing |
| 21:17.48 | fsmithred | usb is a lot easier than burning disks |
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| 21:20.49 | greenjeans | i like disks, they make for awesome art monsters |
| 21:21.24 | greenjeans | I haven't messed with Refracta USB lately, working pretty good? |
| 21:21.50 | fsmithred | yeah |
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| 21:23.13 | fsmithred | I test the isos with vbox or qemu first |
| 21:23.23 | greenjeans | so what kind of usb install is it? Have done it different ways in the past, liveusb (much like a livecd) and also doing a conventional install |
| 21:23.46 | fsmithred | they're all isohybrid images, so you can just dd it to the usb |
| 21:24.03 | fsmithred | I have one usb done that way most of the time |
| 21:24.23 | fsmithred | and another that's set up for multiboot |
| 21:24.34 | fsmithred | all live, no normal installs on the usb |
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| 22:54.38 | greenjeans | anybody use Exaile for music? |
| 22:55.45 | Xenguy | Never heard of it |
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| 23:02.02 | greenjeans | pretty decent music/internet radio player |
| 23:02.46 | greenjeans | but now won't play WMA's because debian dumped gstreamer-ffmpeg plugin |
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| 23:11.20 | job1 | i would like to upgrade to Acii, is there a way? if not where can i download the installer for Acii |
| 23:11.23 | job1 | tx |
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| 23:16.28 | golinux | job1: Just change jessie to ascii in your sources list and do a standard update upgrade to a new release version. |
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| 23:17.01 | job1 | yes.. thank you...just found something similar |
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| 23:24.48 | Xenguy | Does anybody know the song Edgar? |
| 23:25.00 | Xenguy | Random question I know |
| 23:25.12 | Xenguy | And pretty off-topic |
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| 23:30.14 | Xenguy | This is a sample, a session from 88: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzcIvG3xPHo |
| 23:30.55 | Xenguy | I know one person that ever went to one of their shows, and he said it was scary as fuck |
| 23:31.41 | Xenguy | Gibby et al. themselves stated that one of their goals was to scare the parents of the kids who were listening to their music :P |
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| 23:42.11 | golinux | Maybe #debianfork would be a better place for your question . . . |
| 23:46.53 | Xenguy | Ack |
| 23:47.37 | golinux | Thanks :) |
| 23:47.59 | Xenguy | Thank you |
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