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| 00:28.03 | *** topic/#devuan is beta2 is out: http://ur1.ca/q572u ** https://devuan.org/ discussion channel (logged at https://botbot.me/freenode/devuan - with useful 'search') | Please take off-topic conversation to #debianfork | /msg chanserv info #devuan | !listkeys #devuan <foo> | Devuan Forum: https://dev1galaxy.org/ |
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| 06:58.59 | webprojectx_ | some one is awake? |
| 06:59.00 | webprojectx_ | lol |
| 06:59.25 | golinux | Barely . . . |
| 06:59.34 | webprojectx_ | ha |
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| 07:09.45 | Centurion_Dan | I'm awake too... |
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| 07:18.03 | Centurion_Dan | webprojectx_: that depends... |
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| 08:26.05 | nullmark | Has anyone experience with devuan on the raspberry pi? I try to use an overly, but it seems to do nothing. |
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| 08:26.59 | Centurion_Dan | nullmark: which model? |
| 08:35.28 | nullmark | 1 |
| 08:36.23 | nullmark | I have a 3 too, i can try it there, but i intend to use the model 1 for the project where i need the overlay. |
| 08:39.06 | DocScrutinizer05 | HELP!! |
| 08:39.55 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://paste.opensuse.org/11485864 |
| 08:41.00 | DocScrutinizer05 | what would cause TWO hdd to go south same time? it's a md of to server grade HDDs |
| 08:41.15 | DocScrutinizer05 | of two* |
| 08:41.45 | DocScrutinizer05 | ata controller on mobo defect? or PSU? |
| 08:41.55 | DocScrutinizer05 | or might this be a software issue? |
| 08:43.32 | nullmark | Centurion_Dan: i have a model 1 b (the newer, 512mb version). I try to use the hifiberry dac, but i cant get it to work. I know the overlay works with Debian, but does nothing with devuan. I can load the necessary modules, but it wont work, i guess im missing some parameters. |
| 08:49.58 | nullmark | DocScrutinizer05: Well, i would by default guess controller or power. If the drives are ATA (not SATA) and both on the same ATA cable, the cable might be bad (same goes for power cable). |
| 08:50.56 | nullmark | I would probably just reboot and have an eye on it ;) |
| 08:51.20 | nullmark | But i dont have anything with "server grade" on it ;) |
| 08:51.40 | DocScrutinizer05 | sata |
| 08:52.06 | DocScrutinizer05 | I'll check power cable, good suggestion |
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| 08:52.21 | DocScrutinizer05 | I already rebooted |
| 08:53.57 | DocScrutinizer05 | and now it starts to reset link every 5 seconds |
| 08:54.11 | DocScrutinizer05 | audibly (heads parked) |
| 08:54.19 | Centurion_Dan | capacitor gone bad on your mobo? |
| 08:54.27 | DocScrutinizer05 | possibly |
| 08:54.32 | nullmark | Sounds not too good |
| 08:54.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | indeed |
| 08:56.25 | Centurion_Dan | Or your PSU is failing to deliver sufficient power... |
| 08:56.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://paste.opensuse.org/33948058 |
| 08:57.10 | DocScrutinizer05 | I guess I have to shut down this box again |
| 08:57.21 | DocScrutinizer05 | check power, what for I got a scope |
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| 09:00.40 | Centurion_Dan | nullmark: the problem you have is the pi1b is we don't build that specific architecture packages. We do armel (ARMv4 no neon or VFP accel) and armhf(armv7 c/w VFP and Neon3). the Pi 0, 1, 2 are all armv6 with VFP and Neon2). So either you get real shitty performance or it doesn't boot. |
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| 09:01.41 | Centurion_Dan | your best bet currently is raspbian.... |
| 09:01.50 | nullmark | Damn :( |
| 09:02.20 | nullmark | Thank you |
| 09:03.09 | Centurion_Dan | Pi 3 is armv8 i believe so will run armhf fine. |
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| 09:05.59 | DocScrutinizer05 | ok, it was a nice time with you :-) |
| 09:06.04 | DocScrutinizer05 | o/# |
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| 09:08.46 | Centurion_Dan | DocScrutinizer05: what are you implying? |
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| 09:28.48 | DocScrutinizer05 | blinks |
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| 09:35.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | FFS! http://paste.opensuse.org/8781804 |
| 09:38.24 | DocScrutinizer05 | even worse, prolly: http://paste.opensuse.org/97661078 |
| 09:38.40 | DocScrutinizer05 | though the disks seem fine now |
| 09:38.47 | DocScrutinizer05 | swapped cable |
| 09:40.02 | Centurion_Dan | Seems btrfs didn't like that... |
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| 17:09.20 | DocScrutinizer05 | ok, was actually the power cable (or the PSU on that cable tree) Used another one of the cables from PSU and the drives run like you'd expect from server grade HDD. mysql fixed thanks to btrfs and snapper |
| 17:10.41 | DocScrutinizer05 | btrfs fixed itself btw |
| 17:11.22 | DocScrutinizer05 | maybe in cooperation with the raid |
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| 18:16.14 | Hestben | DocScrutinizer05: Thanks for the happy ending to the horror story |
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| 18:42.18 | greenjeans | purpy+green icons= Incredible Hulk OS ;-) |
| 18:47.28 | Lydia_K | LOL! |
| 18:47.41 | Lydia_K | RARRRGG!! HULK UNIX! |
| 18:49.03 | greenjeans | do not make penguin angry, you won't like him when he is angry. :-o |
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| 19:00.40 | Lydia_K | LMAO!!! |
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| 19:27.54 | FlibberTGibbet | aye aye. what's this about being close to a final 1.0 release?? :D |
| 19:37.28 | lowee[m] | hehe, thanks to devuan i have sound again xD (seemd pulseaudio doesnt run as good on debian without systemd :P) |
| 19:38.08 | FlibberTGibbet | good to hear, lowee[m] |
| 19:38.16 | FlibberTGibbet | literally in this case :) |
| 19:41.00 | greenjeans | Devuan with Mate, minimal stripped down version, built with Refracta-tools, just updated fully a couple days ago, otherwise unchanged from late 2016 version I did |
| 19:41.06 | greenjeans | http://www.mrgreenjeans.net/opensource |
| 19:41.40 | greenjeans | 379.6 mb |
| 19:41.51 | lowee[m] | gues i 'upgraded' to devuan then, though apt-get tells me that i downgraded the packages, so which is correct now? :g |
| 19:42.07 | FlibberTGibbet | Nice job, greenjeans. Mate sits well with Devuan. |
| 19:42.35 | greenjeans | It really does, been using it for about 6 months now |
| 19:43.43 | greenjeans | This iso is non-uefi enabled, so the livecd might not boot on uefi and can't be installed on uefi-only hardware |
| 19:43.59 | greenjeans | without some additions |
| 19:44.14 | FlibberTGibbet | Just found out that my enforced "upgrade" to Win10 on the work box killed my Devuan/Mate VM. Might reinstate it via your image... |
| 19:44.23 | greenjeans | might be able to load grub-efi packages in livecd mode |
| 19:45.27 | greenjeans | About to roll another one that's the same but uefi-enabled for booting the livecd on any hardware, and another for installing on uefi-only stuff |
| 19:45.41 | Lydia_K | Nice greenjeans :) |
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| 19:46.14 | greenjeans | I waited for Fsmithred to do all the hard work getting uefi to work, lol |
| 19:47.27 | Lydia_K | LOL |
| 19:48.08 | greenjeans | Have not altered anything in the default settings etc. for devuan, it's just an installable livecd (hybrid iso) with a very basic devuan with Mate, and with the excellent Refracta tools onboard |
| 19:48.41 | greenjeans | meant to be a "builder" for those who want to start light |
| 19:48.46 | AntoFox | greenjeans: how version of mate have???? |
| 19:49.26 | greenjeans | not sure I understand the question AntoFox? |
| 19:49.55 | AntoFox | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:49.59 | FlibberTGibbet | greenjeans -- light is ideal for those of us who repurpose old boxes |
| 19:50.44 | greenjeans | The versions of Refractatools on the iso are not current, that's the only things I haven't updated, I have a bunch of customized areas (config files and such) that I didn't want to overwrite yet |
| 19:50.58 | greenjeans | Mate 1.8.1 |
| 19:51.07 | greenjeans | current version in the devuan repo |
| 19:51.54 | lowee[m] | how good is the openrc support in devuan? i have been using openrc from debian for some time now (this beeing a debian install) and recently switched some packages to devuan so i can get rid of some dependencies, so does openrc work as good as in debian? (i'd rather not switch the version if i might brake something with it :g) |
| 19:51.56 | greenjeans | FlibberTGibbet: right there with ya, that's what got me into linux in the first place years ago |
| 19:53.57 | FlibberTGibbet | greenjeans: exactly. i'd just scrambled through my first intro and certification course a few years ago, only to find that the nice, sensible *x philosophy was under threat. Devuan is one of the remaining patches of solid ground... |
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| 19:55.44 | intel-compute-st | Im using a STCK1A8LFC, 1gb ram, 8gb flash, Intel compute stik with ubuntu. After apt-get installing wine, the disc was used up, and now I have "no network device found". The module is supposed to be rtl8723bs and can be seen in the linux source folder on the stick |
| 19:55.51 | greenjeans | Very true, it's getting harder to find anybody that still makes a 386 version these days, and some older hardware just runs a ton better on it, using 32 bit on this very machine |
| 19:55.55 | intel-compute-st | dmesg says nothing |
| 19:56.12 | intel-compute-st | kernel wasnt changed as far as I can see |
| 19:56.21 | greenjeans | that's one of the things I like about Devuan |
| 19:56.52 | intel-compute-st | what do I do |
| 19:56.58 | intel-compute-st | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:57.03 | intel-compute-st | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:57.52 | FlibberTGibbet | going the other way, i'm looking forward to getting the wireless drivers working on my pi zero w devuan install. plan on using it for some actual prototype datalogging systems. |
| 19:58.30 | greenjeans | nice! |
| 19:59.24 | greenjeans | i'm piddling around with the idea of using my minimalist stuff to make a small-business enterprise devuan |
| 19:59.34 | FlibberTGibbet | love that idea |
| 19:59.35 | lowee[m] | intel-compute-st: do you use network-manager? does lsmod say if the correct module is loaded? |
| 20:00.54 | greenjeans | Devuan with mate has so far been wicked stable, and very user friendly, have switched a few folks over here in the last few months and they are super happy with it |
| 20:01.10 | intel-compute-st | lowee[m]: modprobe says it can't find the module |
| 20:01.13 | intel-compute-st | insmod same |
| 20:01.22 | intel-compute-st | the source is on the stik |
| 20:01.28 | intel-compute-st | rtl8723bs |
| 20:01.40 | intel-compute-st | I have no idea where I could find the .debs that go with that and reinstall |
| 20:01.44 | intel-compute-st | google has NOTHING |
| 20:03.23 | intel-compute-st | lowee[m]: lsmod doesn't list the module |
| 20:04.16 | lowee[m] | well i've only found this one: https://github.com/hadess/rtl8723bs |
| 20:04.36 | lowee[m] | i couldn't find any packages which have that device listed for debian either though |
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| 20:07.26 | greenjeans | hi Fsmithred! |
| 20:08.25 | intel-compute-st | lowee[m]: making it |
| 20:08.32 | intel-compute-st | lowee[m]: that code is on the compute stik too |
| 20:08.41 | intel-compute-st | I hope it has the tools to complete the make |
| 20:09.34 | lowee[m] | alterntively there was a package which i think was named ndiswrapper with which you can use win drivers on linux |
| 20:09.57 | lowee[m] | (if all else fails anyway :p) |
| 20:10.00 | fsmithred | greenjeans!!! Where have you been? |
| 20:10.28 | fsmithred | jail? hospital? extended vacation? |
| 20:10.33 | greenjeans | Hey buddy, aw heck, you know how it goes, pesky life interfering with my linux-time |
| 20:10.39 | greenjeans | lol |
| 20:10.44 | fsmithred | ueah, I get it. |
| 20:11.01 | fsmithred | oh, that looked right when I typed it. |
| 20:11.04 | greenjeans | finally got some time |
| 20:11.09 | fsmithred | cool. |
| 20:11.13 | fsmithred | nice to see you again. |
| 20:11.22 | intel-compute-st | lowee[m]: it was working 30 min ago |
| 20:11.25 | greenjeans | Nice to see you brother! |
| 20:11.26 | fsmithred | your avatar disappeared |
| 20:11.29 | intel-compute-st | I apt-get installed wine |
| 20:11.34 | intel-compute-st | used up all the space |
| 20:11.49 | intel-compute-st | now no networking after I cleaned up some space |
| 20:12.00 | intel-compute-st | module vanished somehow |
| 20:12.15 | lowee[m] | intel-compute-st: hmm, do you use apt-get or apt? pretty sure apt-get caches packages per default :3, try listing installed pakcages with dpkg -l and see if you can find the correct one |
| 20:12.17 | greenjeans | So, any new dependencies or anything I need to load before installing the latest Refracta tools? |
| 20:12.33 | fsmithred | fewer, I think |
| 20:12.36 | greenjeans | Snapshot and Installer |
| 20:12.41 | greenjeans | sweeeeeeeet |
| 20:12.53 | fsmithred | I dropped parted as a dep for... |
| 20:12.56 | greenjeans | Doing uefi-enables next |
| 20:13.04 | fsmithred | I think it was the installer |
| 20:13.29 | fsmithred | yeah, uefi works. It still says it's experimental because I've heard from very few people who have tried it. |
| 20:14.04 | fsmithred | past couple weeks been playing with devuan live-sdk to make live isos |
| 20:14.28 | fsmithred | it's a black-box method, like live-build, but I seem to have it working ok |
| 20:14.28 | greenjeans | So, best practice, I take my current build, swap to grub efi + the bin package, run my iso and out pops a uefi-installable iso? |
| 20:15.01 | greenjeans | devuan has a livecd builder now? |
| 20:15.06 | fsmithred | yeah |
| 20:15.11 | fsmithred | more than live-cd |
| 20:15.41 | fsmithred | the rpi and other embedded images get built with it |
| 20:15.53 | fsmithred | and I think the regular install isos get built with it |
| 20:15.53 | greenjeans | this is what i get for being out of the loop |
| 20:16.18 | fsmithred | how I do the refracta isos - because I don't know if the user has uefi or bios... |
| 20:16.36 | fsmithred | snapshot has an option called 'force-efi' or something like that |
| 20:16.51 | fsmithred | it'll make the efi boot files even if you don't have grub-efi installed |
| 20:17.18 | fsmithred | so, I install grub-efi, then replace it with grub-pc, but DO NOT AUTOREMOVE |
| 20:17.31 | fsmithred | that way you keep efibootmgr and a library or two |
| 20:17.57 | fsmithred | put the grub-efi debs in / so they are available inside the iso (for when you install) |
| 20:18.39 | fsmithred | if you boot efi and run uefi installer, it'll install the debs for you and then install the bootloader to the efi partition |
| 20:18.43 | fsmithred | (grub does that) |
| 20:18.49 | intel-compute-st | lowee[m]: compiling the module worked |
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| 20:19.02 | intel-compute-st | no sound tho, so now compiling the other onw |
| 20:19.29 | intel-compute-st | thanks for th etip |
| 20:20.01 | greenjeans | Awesome, thanks for that info, will be working on that the next couple days, i've got some uefi hardware, on this machine in fact but have legacy enabled in bios |
| 20:20.09 | lowee[m] | intel-compute-st: also did you make some room afterwards? linux systems have some wierd problems in generall if there is no space left |
| 20:20.13 | parazyd | fsmithred: why is it a black box? i thought it was far away from a black box |
| 20:20.24 | fsmithred | oh, the code is all open |
| 20:20.30 | fsmithred | and pretty accessible |
| 20:20.42 | fsmithred | you don't see what it looks like until it's finished |
| 20:20.57 | fsmithred | and if you screw up, you get to wait for the build to finish before you know about it |
| 20:21.23 | parazyd | this is on my wishlist yeah |
| 20:21.28 | fsmithred | listing a package that's spelled wrong or doesn't exist will cause it to fail, but you won't know when it happens |
| 20:21.29 | parazyd | a bit more sophisticated testing |
| 20:21.29 | fsmithred | lol |
| 20:21.32 | fsmithred | yeah |
| 20:21.50 | fsmithred | maybe a couple lines that run apt-cache something |
| 20:21.58 | fsmithred | to make sure they're all right |
| 20:22.13 | parazyd | zuper needs polishing |
| 20:22.17 | parazyd | that's what i'm missing |
| 20:22.20 | fsmithred | I actually lost a few days of head-scratching until I added the error logs |
| 20:22.26 | parazyd | not every `zerr` call gets called properly |
| 20:22.38 | parazyd | if it would, it would be a lot easier |
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| 20:23.15 | fsmithred | the zerrrors don't go into my build log, which is just the terminal output tee'd to a file |
| 20:23.38 | greenjeans | shoot, gotta meeting I got to run, hey thanks fmsithred, i'll be around more, great to hear from you! |
| 20:23.40 | parazyd | no no, but in theory - when zerr is called, the process is supposed to stop |
| 20:23.49 | fsmithred | pj |
| 20:23.51 | parazyd | and a `zerr` call is supposed to trap any fail |
| 20:23.51 | fsmithred | pj |
| 20:23.54 | fsmithred | damn |
| 20:24.01 | fsmithred | oh* |
| 20:24.44 | fsmithred | set -x everything |
| 20:25.08 | fsmithred | maybe not - there's already too much output |
| 20:25.39 | Lydia_K | -x is the best thing every, every language should impliment something like it. |
| 20:25.54 | fsmithred | btw, if you know it, I would like to see the xorriso command that's used to make the install isos |
| 20:26.09 | fsmithred | I'm trying to repack one and getting errors |
| 20:26.28 | parazyd | i'm contemplating pipefail |
| 20:26.39 | parazyd | use the xorisso command from the sdk |
| 20:26.41 | fsmithred | don't know it |
| 20:26.48 | fsmithred | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:26.56 | fsmithred | well, I did add a line for uefi |
| 20:27.09 | fsmithred | but that has been working in the sdk and in refractasnapshot |
| 20:27.38 | fsmithred | it's complaining about not being rock ridge and losing the firmware symlinks |
| 20:28.14 | fsmithred | and I couldn't get wireless, even though it installed the right firmware and loaded it |
| 20:29.14 | lowee[m] | i had some very unstable wifi with correct firmware, but since i use a newer kernel it works stable :g |
| 20:30.13 | fsmithred | it worked fine when I installed from the netinstall iso |
| 20:30.18 | fsmithred | instead of the one I hacked |
| 20:30.53 | parazyd | can your iso be downloaded somewhere? |
| 20:30.58 | parazyd | i can give it a look |
| 20:31.49 | fsmithred | um, yeah, I could get rid of some isos on ibiblio and put it there |
| 20:32.17 | fsmithred | size it 1gb |
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| 20:33.12 | parazyd | sure |
| 20:33.14 | fsmithred | and I forgot to make a boot entry for live in grub.cfg, so if you boot uefi, you'll need to drop to grub command line |
| 20:33.22 | parazyd | i can give them a look tomorrow |
| 20:33.26 | parazyd | with a uefi laptop |
| 20:33.46 | fsmithred | ok, but not necessary |
| 20:33.57 | fsmithred | um |
| 20:34.01 | fsmithred | actually, I don't know that |
| 20:34.04 | brose | hello all, I saw posted on your main site our mirror server, mirror.math.princeton.edu/pub/devuan/ under http. I see there's also 3 rsync targets and just as a heads up the same mirror and path is available via rsync, rsync://mirror.math.princeton.edu/pub/devuan/ |
| 20:34.12 | fsmithred | I didn't try booting it manually |
| 20:34.55 | parazyd | golinux: ^^ |
| 20:35.18 | parazyd | fsmithred: yeah anyway, just wanted to tell you i can give it a look and see what's wrong |
| 20:35.41 | parazyd | let me know if there is any more code you wish to upstream |
| 20:35.54 | fsmithred | there will be |
| 20:36.17 | fsmithred | take a look at the example-live-sdk I uploaded last night |
| 20:36.39 | fsmithred | but I'm not messing with the one I've got set up for devuan-live |
| 20:36.42 | fsmithred | it works |
| 20:36.48 | fsmithred | maybe later |
| 20:37.35 | fsmithred | ok, it boots isolinux in qemu ok |
| 20:37.45 | parazyd | it would be better if you forked the upstream project |
| 20:37.58 | parazyd | then i can make diffs of your stuff, which is very helpful |
| 20:38.00 | fsmithred | and I see I could make someone happy by losing the blue highlight |
| 20:38.12 | parazyd | haha |
| 20:38.16 | fsmithred | has it changed since I last forked it? |
| 20:38.30 | fsmithred | 'bout a week ago, I think |
| 20:38.48 | parazyd | yep |
| 20:38.51 | fsmithred | ok |
| 20:38.53 | parazyd | but i meant forking it on github |
| 20:38.58 | parazyd | https://github.com/parazyd/live-sdk |
| 20:39.00 | fsmithred | yeah, ok |
| 20:39.19 | parazyd | so you can just cp -f your old repo over it and commit |
| 20:39.42 | fsmithred | well, that's kinda what I did |
| 20:39.49 | fsmithred | but not with your latest |
| 20:40.09 | fsmithred | I cloned from gdo, then copied into a new repo on github |
| 20:40.17 | fsmithred | then committed my changes |
| 20:40.52 | fsmithred | then I forked that one and added my changes for the examples |
| 20:41.06 | parazyd | clicking "fork" on github is what i meant |
| 20:41.10 | fsmithred | yeah |
| 20:41.25 | fsmithred | I did that for the first time last night |
| 20:41.26 | parazyd | which eventually allows you to make pull requests |
| 20:41.39 | fsmithred | which means what? |
| 20:41.59 | parazyd | github does 'git format-patch' for you :P |
| 20:42.09 | fsmithred | I request you to take my changes? |
| 20:42.11 | parazyd | and allows me to apply it |
| 20:42.13 | parazyd | exactly |
| 20:42.21 | fsmithred | ok |
| 20:42.44 | parazyd | and in the GH interface i can comment on certain snippets/lines |
| 20:42.52 | parazyd | which is helpful if anything needs changing |
| 20:42.52 | fsmithred | cool |
| 20:43.05 | parazyd | and you have a history of why the change happened |
| 20:43.30 | fsmithred | yeah, it would be good for me to learn a little more about how github works |
| 20:47.06 | fsmithred | in about a half hour, you can download: http://distro.ibiblio.org/refracta/files/experimental/devuan-live-netinst-1.0rc1-amd64.iso |
| 20:47.26 | parazyd | ack |
| 20:47.36 | parazyd | ping me, i'll get a notification |
| 20:47.47 | fsmithred | I need to go wash plaster dust off my head |
| 20:47.48 | fsmithred | ok |
| 20:47.56 | fsmithred | here in #devuan? |
| 20:48.04 | parazyd | yep |
| 20:48.09 | fsmithred | cool |
| 20:48.15 | fsmithred | bbiab |
| 20:56.09 | AlexLikeRock | cool live-CD |
| 20:56.14 | AlexLikeRock | tanks fsmithred |
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| 21:08.16 | fsmithred | AlexLikeRock, it's not really finished yet, but almost there |
| 21:08.42 | fsmithred | oh, it's not even finished uploading yet |
| 21:09.43 | NewGnuGuy | fsmithred: Is the Refracta logo (just the symbol w/o the text) available as an SVG somewhere? |
| 21:10.55 | fsmithred | the pinwheel? |
| 21:10.57 | AlexLikeRock | bytes more byte less... |
| 21:11.06 | NewGnuGuy | fsmithred: indeed |
| 21:11.08 | AlexLikeRock | we have the BASE |
| 21:11.25 | AlexLikeRock | tanks TEAM |
| 21:11.38 | fsmithred | NewGnuGuy, it can be available in a couple minutes, I think |
| 21:15.04 | NewGnuGuy | That would be much apreciated |
| 21:15.57 | fsmithred | NewGnuGuy, http://distro.ibiblio.org/refracta/files/wallpaper/sqpgc.png |
| 21:16.38 | NewGnuGuy | thank you |
| 21:16.54 | fsmithred | yw |
| 21:18.44 | fsmithred | parazyd, she has arrived! |
| 21:27.21 | parazyd | fsmithred: downloading, thx |
| 21:27.26 | parazyd | 1011M |
| 21:27.32 | fsmithred | yeah |
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| 21:27.56 | fsmithred | oh, I'll add sha256 sum |
| 21:28.58 | NewGnuGuy | fsmithred: The logo on the homepage (http://www.ibiblio.org/refracta/images/refracta.png) and the logo here (http://distro.ibiblio.org/refracta/files/wallpaper/refracta.png) display the pinwheel at different rotations. Which is the "correct" rotation? |
| 21:29.19 | fsmithred | neither |
| 21:29.22 | fsmithred | both |
| 21:29.32 | fsmithred | the one I gave you was turned around last year |
| 21:29.51 | fsmithred | the other is the original one that meandean made |
| 21:30.05 | fsmithred | we all think the new one is better |
| 21:30.20 | fsmithred | TBH, I don't like either of them |
| 21:30.32 | fsmithred | hang on... |
| 21:32.53 | fsmithred | parazyd, sha256sum is in a file in same directory |
| 21:33.46 | fsmithred | This is absolutely beautiful: http://distro.ibiblio.org/refracta/files/wallpaper/gdo-icon.png |
| 21:34.07 | parazyd | yeah it does look good |
| 21:34.36 | fsmithred | in one of the sdk examples, I used that icon for the menu button in icewm |
| 21:35.31 | parazyd | it needs a better resolution |
| 21:35.56 | fsmithred | I think it's 36x36 |
| 21:35.59 | NewGnuGuy | https://devuan.org/ui/img/devuan-emblem.svg from https://devuan.org/os/press/ |
| 21:36.26 | parazyd | cool |
| 21:36.48 | parazyd | i'm off for today, gonna let this download and report back tomorrow |
| 21:36.50 | parazyd | ttyl |
| 21:37.15 | fsmithred | ok, thanks |
| 21:37.17 | fsmithred | bye |
| 21:37.21 | parazyd | o/ |
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| 22:33.52 | aitor | greenjeans: downloading it, thanks |
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| 22:35.14 | fsmithred | hi aitor |
| 22:35.19 | aitor | hi |
| 22:35.38 | fsmithred | you know how to add debian installer to a live iso? |
| 22:36.22 | aitor | d-i? i've never used it |
| 22:36.24 | aitor | yes |
| 22:36.26 | fsmithred | I did it the other way and added a live iso to an install disk |
| 22:37.20 | aitor | good |
| 22:37.41 | aitor | there are a lot of factors with d-i |
| 22:38.23 | fsmithred | I don't know anything about it |
| 22:38.27 | fsmithred | except how to use it |
| 22:39.08 | aitor | you can't build a custom iso with a custom kernel, for example |
| 22:39.46 | fsmithred | oh, installer doesn't like that? |
| 22:39.49 | aitor | it's possible, of course, but very laborious |
| 22:40.48 | aitor | if the kernel builds succesfully, including all the udebs, no problem :) |
| 22:42.21 | aitor | a use a very simple script which removes all the superfluous udebs in the "pool" folder of the iso |
| 22:42.49 | fsmithred | you know anything about what order the installer installs packages? |
| 22:42.57 | fsmithred | especially the first ones |
| 22:42.57 | aitor | some of them belong to the kernel |
| 22:43.23 | aitor | the base packages |
| 22:44.09 | aitor | if you use another kernel, you need to build d-i |
| 22:44.27 | fsmithred | wow, that's a pain |
| 22:44.49 | aitor | you can't use the "install" folder of the official images of debian |
| 22:45.14 | fsmithred | can't modify it for devuan? |
| 22:46.24 | aitor | this folder includes the initrd.gz and the vmlinuz, you know |
| 22:46.41 | aitor | you can modify for devuan, of course |
| 22:47.09 | aitor | i wrote a post in the mailing list, and now i'm searching it |
| 22:48.59 | aitor | i can't find it now, but you have a good guide in Lihuen |
| 22:49.36 | aitor | https://lihuen.linti.unlp.edu.ar/index.php/P%C3%A1gina_principal |
| 22:49.41 | aitor | it's in spanish |
| 22:51.21 | aitor | today i dedicated some time to simple-Åetaid-gtk |
| 22:52.03 | fsmithred | how is it doing? |
| 22:52.26 | aitor | well |
| 22:53.17 | aitor | the latest bug, in the current version commit, is related with Glib::Dispatcher, as i intuited |
| 22:53.47 | aitor | the GUI is not accesible from a secondary thread (the worker) |
| 22:54.09 | aitor | this page explains it: |
| 22:54.10 | aitor | https://developer.gnome.org/gtkmm-tutorial/stable/sec-using-glib-dispatcher.html.en |
| 22:55.23 | fsmithred | over my head |
| 22:55.46 | aitor | i need the secondary thread for the status icon (connected/disconnected) and the label |
| 22:56.16 | fsmithred | that makes sense |
| 22:56.49 | aitor | the following example in this page can be applied to the installer of refracta, but seems a bit complicated: |
| 22:57.01 | aitor | https://developer.gnome.org/gtkmm-tutorial/stable/sec-multithread-example.html.en |
| 22:57.46 | aitor | a progress bar |
| 22:59.44 | aitor | it runs succesfully in my system, but uses <thread.h> instead of <pthread.h>, i still don't no why |
| 23:02.14 | aitor | fsmithred: 01:00 here, time to bed |
| 23:02.22 | fsmithred | have good dreams |
| 23:02.32 | aitor | thanks, see you tomorrow :) |
| 23:09.56 | gnarface | so i'm having a weird problem only occasionally |
| 23:10.04 | gnarface | but it's occurred on jessie and ceres both now |
| 23:10.18 | gnarface | where reboot will happen before the disks are finished unmounting/syncing |
| 23:10.28 | gnarface | (triggering auto fsck on the next boot) |
| 23:10.53 | gnarface | anyone else having this problem now? |
| 23:13.16 | furrywolf | what is this "reboot" you speak of? |
| 23:14.35 | gnarface | heh |
| 23:14.42 | gnarface | well occasionally there are kernel or nvidia driver updates... |
| 23:15.25 | gnarface | i have not been able to confirm whether running something like "sync && sync && sync" before the reboot will prevent the problem or not |
| 23:20.05 | gnarface | though i was able to confirm it's not filesystem-specific |
| 23:20.41 | gnarface | it's like instead of waiting for everything to be unmounted, they switched it to a dumb timer that's just slightly too short |
| 23:21.14 | gnarface | (but this is also happening for me on a SSD too) |
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| 23:45.45 | Xenguy | o/ |
| 23:47.00 | Xenguy | Sorry to disturb - it appears the botbot.me logs are GMT, got it |
| 23:47.31 | fsmithred | you can put an offset in the url to get local time |
| 23:47.56 | Xenguy | tx fsmithred , I didn't know that |
| 23:49.18 | fsmithred | um, I'm seeing the log with local time |
| 23:49.25 | fsmithred | I didn't fudge the url |
| 23:50.07 | fsmithred | I know it was not local when we first started using it |
| 23:50.08 | Xenguy | Definitely GMT here |
| 23:50.20 | Xenguy | oh wait |
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| 23:52.37 | Xenguy | I think this is a 'my bad' situation ;-) |
| 23:52.47 | Se7en | Devuan is causing some weird errors when attempting to mount an HDD via SATA to USB |
| 23:52.53 | Se7en | At least, I think it's the base system |
| 23:53.06 | Se7en | The HDD has been proven to work |
| 23:53.16 | Se7en | The actual device, it seems is what the computer is reading as the drive |
| 23:53.38 | Se7en | When I disconnect the drive dmesg reports that sdb is still connected |
| 23:53.49 | Se7en | Trying to mount it produces access denied errors |
| 23:53.59 | Se7en | It is encrypted with LUKS |
| 23:54.06 | Se7en | luksOpen also fails to get it |
| 23:54.39 | Se7en | fdisk: cannot open /dev/sdb: No medium found |
| 23:56.30 | Se7en | `blkid | grep crypt` also fasils to find anything. It can only find the encrypted internal HDD |
| 23:59.05 | gnarface | Se7en: did you remember to turn on the power switch for the SATA->USB adapter before you plugged in the USB connector? i have one that shows up as a mass storage device on it's own when it's powered off, and even lights up under it's own usb power, shows blinking for data access, etc, but can't actually read the drive |
| 23:59.21 | Se7en | There is no power switch that I can see |
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| 23:59.48 | gnarface | hmm. on mine the power is a separate attachment |
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