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00:22.53*** topic/#devuan is beta2 is out: http://ur1.ca/q572u ** https://devuan.org/ discussion channel (logged at https://botbot.me/freenode/devuan - with useful 'search') | Please take off-topic conversation to #debianfork | /msg chanserv info #devuan | !listkeys #devuan <foo> | Devuan Forum: https://dev1galaxy.org/
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13:19.25TwistedFateHi, is there a guide on how to apt pin (systemd) in devuan?
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13:20.29TwistedFateI tried this on a fresh stable install echo -e 'Package: systemd\nPin: release *\nPin-Priority: -1' > /etc/apt/preferences.d/systemd, I am getting bash: /etc/apt-preferences.d/systemd: No such file or directory
13:22.57KatolaZTwistedFate:
13:23.01KatolaZit should stay into
13:23.12KatolaZ/etc/apt/preferences.d/....
13:23.24TwistedFatesorry, i just noticed i made a typing error
13:23.24KatolaZnot /etc/apt-preferences.d/
13:23.28TwistedFateyes
13:23.57KatolaZwell, it means you don't have that folder then :)
13:24.37KatolaZanyway, you don't need to pin anything in Devuan jessie beta2
13:24.48KatolaZif it's a fresh install
13:25.11KatolaZeverything is managed by auto.mirror.devuan.org
13:25.14KatolaZ(amprolla)
13:28.18TwistedFateKatolaZ, i have to if i plan to move to ascii
13:28.33KatolaZok
13:28.47KatolaZit seems you are just missing that folder then
13:29.00KatolaZI mean, preferences.d
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13:29.03KatolaZunder /etc/apt
13:30.55TwistedFateKatolaZ, no im not, i made a typing mistake
13:30.58TwistedFateall is well :)
13:31.02KatolaZ:)
13:31.06KatolaZgreat
13:31.11TwistedFateis multiarch enabled by default on devuan?
13:31.24KatolaZwhat do you mean?
13:31.27KatolaZyou have multiarch
13:31.31KatolaZas in Debian
13:31.31TwistedFate32bit and 64bit
13:31.37TwistedFatepackages
13:32.06KatolaZI think you still need to give
13:32.17KatolaZdpkg --add-architecture WHATEVER
13:32.37KatolaZthere is no reason why it should support both i386 and amd64 by default...
13:32.43KatolaZthat would be quite silly, IMHO
13:33.17KatolaZ:)
13:45.55nullmarkHm, maybe someone here can help. I signed up for the devuan mailing list ages ago, and i just cant post anything. All i ever get is "awaits moderator approval". Then nothing happens.
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13:56.30KatolaZnullmark: are you using the same email address
13:56.39KatolaZ?
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13:59.05KatolaZnullmark: I mean, are you posting form the same email address you have used to subscribe?
14:02.10nullmarkI thought so, but i just looked at into the header, and there are two adresses
14:06.01nullmarkKobaz: You where right, although i have not the faintest idea how or what i messed up there :)
14:06.09nullmarkSorry
14:06.14nullmarkI meant KatolaZ :)
14:06.34KatolaZ:)
14:06.38KatolaZnullmark: happens with MLs
14:06.39KatolaZ:)
14:08.09nullmarkTrue :)
14:08.35nullmarkYes, works now :D
14:09.11nullmarkOh, and another question :)
14:10.51nullmarkI have had some trouble with packages that where way to old in devuan. Some are easy, like arduino oder slic3r, they provide tarballs themselves. But others, like kicad, tend to be very troublesome. Is there something like bsd's ports oder archs aur for those occasions?
14:11.00nullmarkOr what do people do?
14:12.02nullmarki thought about putting a arch linux installation in a chroot and then install troublemakers there :D
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14:16.34fsmithrednullmark, there's jessie-backports
14:16.50fsmithredor you could backport it yourself
14:16.59fsmithredor check the mepis repo for backports
14:17.21fsmithredor maybe that's antixMX repo
14:22.05nullmarkIs there some kind of tutorial for the "backport it yourself" part?
14:23.19nullmarkI remember that using repos from other distros lead to trouble :)
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14:28.56fsmithredyeah, I'll find the link
14:29.43fsmithredhttp://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=38976&sid=efb0df6f1a03f1cd55a35f18dc846664
14:30.06fsmithredHow to build packages from source the smart way
14:30.23fsmithredyes, mixing repos can cause problems
14:30.53fsmithredthe backports from mepis tend to work well (I haven't heard of any problems with them)
14:31.10fsmithredbut it's wise to be selective and pay attention
14:32.13nullmarkThank you, on first glance seems like a good introduction :)
14:32.55KatolaZnullmark: you can still use jessie-backports from Debian
14:33.05KatolaZI have been using them for several months
14:33.14KatolaZjust add:
14:33.35KatolaZdeb http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/merged/ jessie-backports main
14:33.42KatolaZto your sources.list
14:34.25nullmarkI would rather like to learn to make my own backports. The last time i mixed repos (granted, back in 2004...), it broke quite often :)
14:34.45nullmarkBut i guess i will try it anyway :D
14:36.17fsmithred<PROTECTED>
14:36.17fsmithred<PROTECTED>
14:36.32fsmithredoops! that's kicad
14:36.43KatolaZnullmark: it's not mixing repos
14:36.48KatolaZthese are still devuan repos
14:37.20KatolaZonly be careful of an outstanding bug
14:37.36KatolaZwhich assigns priority 500 to jessie-backports in devuan
14:37.39fsmithreddo we still need to pin backports to lower priority?
14:37.43KatolaZyes
14:37.53fsmithredyeah, you're saying it now, as I ask.
14:37.57KatolaZunless you want everything to come from jessie-backports
14:38.03fsmithredyou don't.
14:38.12KatolaZwell, I normally do :D
14:38.21fsmithredno breakage?
14:38.25KatolaZnope
14:38.25nullmarkHm, ok, i try that then :)
14:38.33KatolaZI used to stay on Debian testing for 14 years
14:38.38KatolaZwithout a single problem
14:38.42KatolaZbefore JESSIE
14:38.42fsmithredcool.
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