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| 02:56.10 | *** topic/#devuan is beta2 is out: http://ur1.ca/q572u ** https://devuan.org/ discussion channel (logged at https://botbot.me/freenode/devuan - with useful 'search') | Please take off-topic conversation to #debianfork | /msg chanserv info #devuan | !listkeys #devuan <foo> | Devuan Forum: https://dev1galaxy.org/ |
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| 03:20.06 | Ponchale | Devuan dont support for interface network for devices Del XPS 12 and 13 ? |
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| 03:26.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | devuan is debian minus systemd and a few depending apps like networkmanager |
| 03:27.46 | DocScrutinizer05 | there's no reason why devuan wouldn't support a device that debian does support |
| 03:28.53 | DocScrutinizer05 | you just need to resort to tools that can work witjout systemd |
| 03:30.54 | Ponchale | DocScrutinizer05: not have drivers for this devices |
| 03:31.03 | Ponchale | Ok ok I look thanks |
| 03:31.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | then get the debian drivers |
| 03:32.04 | DocScrutinizer05 | though this shouldn't happen, aiui devuan should have all drivers available for debian |
| 03:42.37 | Leander_ | which interface? ethernet or wifi? |
| 03:43.51 | Ponchale | Wifi Leander |
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| 04:05.01 | fsmithred | beta2 installer does not detect the wireless |
| 04:12.41 | DocScrutinizer05 | ooh, during installation |
| 04:17.42 | Ponchale | Mmmm |
| 04:18.39 | Ponchale | I try install of package Broadcom and the system show message what insert of image of installation |
| 04:27.16 | Ponchale | Trying disabled the source the system show a message of error with KDE |
| 04:31.48 | DocScrutinizer05 | wrong time of day, most devels are asleep |
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| 10:05.22 | Centurion_Dan | o/ |
| 10:10.54 | AntoFox | \o |
| 10:16.42 | Centurion_Dan | just got back home after a full day on the road with the family... |
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| 17:58.54 | Drugo | how is the work going? I see that there is not much activity on gitlab |
| 18:09.48 | KatolaZ | Drugo: there is much going on beneath gitlab :) |
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| 19:25.33 | Owner | LoL, i said reboot and it stopped at reached target Shutdown |
| 19:25.39 | Owner | didnt even turn off! |
| 19:29.56 | fsmithred | sounds like debian |
| 19:30.03 | Owner | no, centos7 |
| 19:30.14 | fsmithred | oh, yeah |
| 19:30.18 | fsmithred | it does that |
| 19:30.20 | Owner | how did the communists take over link so easily |
| 19:30.24 | Owner | linux |
| 19:30.34 | Owner | hillary voters |
| 19:31.17 | fsmithred | you might get a response to that question in #debianfork |
| 19:31.33 | fsmithred | not likely here |
| 19:31.59 | Owner | k |
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| 20:29.36 | Gargravarr | hello gents, having trouble getting Devuan onto an HP microserver, anyone come across problems during the installer where 'chroot /target dpkg...' fails? |
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| 20:40.05 | Gargravarr | i just tried setting up a VM with much the same config and it got past that step, so my PXE server seems to be working |
| 21:00.52 | Gargravarr | okay, apparently it didn't like my partitioning |
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| 22:36.35 | Xenguy | I saw mention today of some (remote?) 'otr' vulnerability today. I checked Debian's security page but I don't see any sign of it yet... |
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| 22:37.03 | Xenguy | I'm assuming this is different and distinct from the 'pidgin' vulnerability from several days ago. |
| 22:38.24 | parazyd | avoid pidgin |
| 22:38.38 | Xenguy | What is that parazyd ? |
| 22:38.43 | TwistedFate | whats up with pidgin? O.o |
| 22:38.51 | parazyd | libpurple is a security nightmare |
| 22:39.17 | Xenguy | So what to use for otr functionality? |
| 22:39.34 | parazyd | for xmpp? |
| 22:39.37 | Xenguy | yeh |
| 22:39.39 | parazyd | use psi |
| 22:39.46 | parazyd | psi-plus |
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| 22:40.07 | Xenguy | I've heard of it, and I believe it is cross-platform |
| 22:40.07 | parazyd | apt search psi-plus |
| 22:40.12 | parazyd | it's the bomb |
| 22:40.20 | Xenguy | Really, hrm |
| 22:40.32 | gnarface | it's in the unstable repos anyway |
| 22:40.35 | gnarface | requires QT though |
| 22:40.47 | gnarface | this is the first i've heard of it too |
| 22:40.52 | parazyd | >implying you don't have bloat already installed |
| 22:40.54 | Xenguy | To return to your original point, what makes you say that libpurple is a "security nightmare" ? |
| 22:40.55 | parazyd | :p |
| 22:41.03 | gnarface | it's also the first i've heard libpurple describe as a "security nightmare" |
| 22:41.25 | Xenguy | is a veritable Doubting Thomas ;) |
| 22:41.28 | gnarface | though i admit that i'm disappointed in how long it's taken pidgin to get up-to-date on the latest TLS features |
| 22:41.32 | parazyd | there have been too many vilnerabilities |
| 22:41.35 | parazyd | in the past |
| 22:41.54 | parazyd | their code is very hacky in general |
| 22:41.55 | Xenguy | Like bind and sendmail ? ;-) |
| 22:42.04 | Xenguy | huh |
| 22:42.35 | parazyd | i don't use those either ;) |
| 22:43.06 | Xenguy | I always thought postfix was the way to go, and remain disappointed that the Debian default is Exim |
| 22:43.07 | parazyd | try avoiding libpurple for xmpp in general, there are better ways |
| 22:43.53 | gnarface | there's an exim4 book. i read the sendmail book too. exim is better. postfix can't be taken seriously. putting your email in a database, really? talk about king of bad ideas... |
| 22:44.13 | Xenguy | Whaaa? |
| 22:44.41 | parazyd | exim is a drop in replacement afaik |
| 22:45.42 | gnarface | exim4 does have extensive sendmail compatibility. but it's just one wrapper binary. i'm not sure it *quite* qualifies as "drop-in replacement" but for most people's purposes (which are limited to reliable behavior of /usr/bin/sendmail and nothing more) it probably is |
| 22:47.12 | Xenguy | Well maybe I'll give psi another look then. In the meantime, I hope that otr vulnerability gets patched RSN |
| 22:47.45 | gnarface | does psi only do jabber/xmpp? no oscar/icq/yahoo/aim support? |
| 22:47.55 | parazyd | yeah |
| 22:48.10 | parazyd | there might be plugins like in pidgin, not sure |
| 22:48.11 | Xenguy | I don't need the others myself |
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