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00:21.31*** topic/#devuan is beta2 is out: http://ur1.ca/q572u ** https://devuan.org/ discussion channel (logged at https://botbot.me/freenode/devuan - with useful 'search') | Please take off-topic conversation to #debianfork | /msg chanserv info #devuan | !listkeys #devuan <foo> | Devuan Forum: https://dev1galaxy.org/
00:25.07Se7enI got baqnned from there and all the people who could unban me put me on ignore
00:25.09Se7enit's kinda funny
00:25.37XenguyYou must have been naughty one time, or more :)
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07:41.21aitorthanks for the notice Xenguy, still 03:40 in the US
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10:22.14punk1hi guys
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10:22.57punk1did someone remember how to boost the boot time if there is not an ethernet cable attached ?
10:23.17punk1should I disable dhcp or it is something else?
10:24.38gnarfacepunk1: disable dhcp and mail server
10:25.07punk1thanks legend !
10:25.23punk1in /etc/networking.conf ?
10:25.45punk1sorry /etc/init/networking.conf
10:26.26gnarfaceyou're thinking of /etc/network/interfaces
10:27.07gnarfaceunless you're running a gui tool for it
10:27.39punk1thanks
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11:36.47gnarfacepunk1: i probably should have mentioned that it's possible to hose yourself by not having a proper /etc/hosts file too
11:37.24gnarfacepunk1: at the minimum it should have localhost and your ip hostname
11:37.31gnarface*main ip hostname
11:37.51punk1I had troubles disabling dhcp
11:38.03buZzwhy?
11:38.16punk1<PROTECTED>
11:38.16punk1# This file describes the network interfaces available on your system
11:38.16punk1# and how to activate them. For more information, see interfaces(5).
11:38.16punk1source /etc/network/interfaces.d/*
11:38.16punk1# The loopback network interface
11:38.17punk1#allow-hotplug lo
11:38.18punk1#iface lo inet loopback
11:38.20punk1# The primary network interface //DISABLED DHCP at the end of the second line\\
11:38.22punk1#allow-hotplug eth0
11:38.24punk1#iface eth0 inet dhcp
11:38.26punk1# This is an autoconfigured IPv6 interface
11:38.28punk1#iface eth0 inet6 auto
11:38.30punk1auto eth0
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11:38.43punk1<PROTECTED>
11:38.43buZzplz punk1
11:38.44punk1<PROTECTED>
11:38.45buZzlearn to pastebin
11:38.47punk1<PROTECTED>
11:38.48buZzdont be like this
11:38.51punk1xd
11:38.52punk1sorry bro
11:40.25gnarfacelooks like eth0 is still dhcp
11:41.08punk1without dhcp coudnt connect to the INternet
11:41.15buZzlol
11:41.16punk1couldnt
11:41.19punk1whatever
11:41.20gnarfaceso dhcp is not the issue
11:41.29buZz11:22:57 < punk1> did someone remember how to boost the boot time if there is not an ethernet cable attached ?
11:41.32buZz12:41:08 < punk1> without dhcp coudnt connect to the INternet
11:41.35buZzyou crack me up :D
11:41.42punk1well with dhcp it takes time on boot
11:41.46punk1but it works
11:42.08gnarfacehow long?
11:42.25gnarfacehow many seconds does it take?
11:42.39punk1well with ethernet cable attached quite fast like 5 or 6 seconds after dhcp prompt
11:42.47punk1without cable like 2 minutes
11:42.52parazydiirc there's a 30 second timeout
11:42.56parazydwaiting for dhc
11:42.59parazyddhcp
11:43.01gnarfaceit's 1 minute, iirc
11:43.08parazydymmw
11:43.10punk1well maybe one minuto
11:43.12gnarfacemaybe that's mail server
11:43.17punk1minute
11:44.00gnarfaceanyway
11:44.06punk1mail server has the default config
11:44.09gnarfaceyou probably don't really need dhcp
11:44.27parazydmake your own /etc/network/interfaces
11:44.56punk1thats not a problem
11:45.16punk1but have I to change something else ?
11:46.17parazydhttp://sprunge.us/WVjb
11:46.22parazydthis is a valid example without dhcp
11:47.18punk1okey
11:48.02punk1but with my laptop if I go to a wifi net somwhere else would have I to make again a conf file ?
11:48.15punk1enabling dhcp ?
11:48.44parazydadd another section
11:48.48parazydallow-hotplug wlan0
11:48.52parazydiface wlan0 inet dhcp
11:49.15punk1sounds good
11:49.19punk1lets see
11:49.32punk1I changed something to disable wlan0 on boot
11:49.41parazydalso, not recommendable, but you can `chattr +i` the file
11:49.49parazydthen the system won't be able to override it
11:50.03parazydbut i don't recommend as you might get stuck in a boot loop
11:50.22punk1well good to know
11:50.29punk1if it works I will change it
11:50.35punk1thanks man
11:50.38parazydsure
11:51.34punk1we created a chatroom on telegram
11:51.39gnarfacei usually just alter my file
11:51.40punk1https://t.me/Devuan
11:51.54gnarfaceit's not that hard to keep a few commented-out optional sections in there
11:51.58punk1if someone wants to join actually only spaniards but we can make a new international one
11:55.23punk1rebooting ... lets see
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11:59.54aitorhi
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12:00.17punk1_fucking dhcp brou
12:00.36punk1_now taking time again with wlan0
12:00.39punk1_f this shit
12:02.36aitori'm pushing the code of simple-netaid-gtk to git.devuan.org:
12:02.38aitorhttps://git.devuan.org/aitor_czr/simple-netaid-gtk
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12:07.32punk1_and other question
12:07.51punk1_has someone enabled splash on boot
12:08.17gnarface:( i miss the boot penguins
12:08.24punk1_to avoid seeing how the system is loaded
12:08.41punk1_we can config it
12:09.02punk1_https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/category:bootsplash
12:09.03XenguyOne of the things I like about linux is that it doesn't obscure those details
12:09.29gnarfaceneither did the boot penguins!
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18:32.55JTechnohi
18:33.22JTechnois devuan ready to use with the raspberry pi?
18:34.08JTechnoI've seen there are images but I was wondering if they are ready for production
18:36.01Lydia_KI don't know what the offical status is, but I've been running my pis on devuan perfectly well for quite a while now, many many months at the least.
18:37.31JTechnook, thank you
18:37.40debdogJTechno: at work we used debian wheezy images and updaten them to devuan jessie. because the devuan ones were very spartanic
18:38.02debdogdepends of course, what your goal is
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18:38.22JTechnoI guess there's still some work to do
18:38.50debdogerm, s/debian wheezy/raspian wheezy/
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19:33.27zyliwaxhi, two questions: 1) are there any live volumes available? 2) what's the neatest way to open up a crypt volume from the installer? do i need to roll my own iso?
19:36.39golinuxzyliwax: https://sourceforge.net/projects/refracta/files/unofficial_devuan_live/
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19:37.25golinuxThere are certain limitations regarding encryption though.  Look at the README
19:43.20zyliwaxgolinux: i'm grepping README.txt on the latest amd64 cd installer and coming up blank
19:43.52zyliwaxmy use case: i'd like to set up a multiboot system on an existing luks>lvm system
19:44.15golinuxthe installer doesn't do lvm afaik
19:45.54zyliwaxit appears to have an autosetup option with lvm
19:46.20zyliwaxperhaps i'm too used to chroot-style installation procedures like gentoo, arch, etc. :)
19:46.57golinuxI've never done encryption but I have head discussion about it.  Will try to find it on the refracta forum.  Give me a sec
19:47.18zyliwaxthank you
19:47.50zyliwaxthose systems present a cryptsetup command for creating and manipulating LUKS volumes
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19:55.59golinuxFound this in the botbot logs from fsmithred: refractainstaller will do encryption, but not lvm
19:56.34golinuxCame up dry on the forum.  Think the search doesn't like three letters.
19:56.55golinuxzyliwax:
19:57.01golinux^^^
19:58.37golinuxfsmithred will be back in a couple of hours.  That's the only devuan live option atm.
20:01.47fsmithredzyliwax, you can boot refracta live and mount the volume manually
20:02.02fsmithreddirections are in the Readme on the desktop
20:02.10fsmithredscroll way down
20:02.14fsmithredgotta go
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20:03.09fsmithredRelease Notes, not readme
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20:10.11golinuxOops.
20:10.23golinuxgoes to stand in a corner
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20:36.10KatolaZgolinux: there is also the minimal live, even if it is not an option for everyone ;)
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21:17.05zyliwaxi'll check out the refracta manual mount
21:17.09golinuxKatolaZ: So sorry.  Senior moment?
21:17.32zyliwaxKatolaZ: is the minimal live refracta or official devuan?
21:18.11golinuxzyliwax: See this too: http://devuan.kalos.mine.nu/
21:18.39golinuxPure devuan + the refracta tools
21:19.09golinuxis not doing well today.
21:19.40golinuxKatolaZ' minimal live is devuan.
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23:45.56punk1how fun its to go to systemd channel and say some shit
23:45.58punk1:)
23:46.38furrywolftrolling is bad, even when accurate.
23:49.01gnarfacedid you make sure to tell them that systemd is not doing, allah is doing?

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