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| 04:18.17 | mystified | need some help pls guys. Broke my Usb port of my old Hp 1320 laserjet. Not wifi Compat. So only option is ethernet. |
| 04:18.46 | mystified | don't know how to configure nor can i find it's ipaddress. |
| 04:33.47 | Leander | do you have a DHCP server on your network? The printer possibly needs one to have an IP address |
| 04:34.40 | furrywolf | the last time I set up a (completely different) hp printer, you set the ip through the front panel. |
| 04:35.19 | furrywolf | and then you just gave cups its ip and port. |
| 04:38.13 | mystified | eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:25:22:65:e5:eb 192.168.0.5 |
| 04:38.56 | mystified | @furrywolf thx. But i'm no techie |
| 04:39.20 | mystified | CUPS 1.7.5 |
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| 05:28.38 | mystified | any one here at this moment ? |
| 05:28.59 | mystified | trying to use print settings |
| 05:29.25 | mystified | I'm unable to login with either root or user passwords |
| 05:29.54 | mystified | trying to add a ethernet printer |
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| 05:31.13 | mystified | hey syco |
| 05:31.17 | mystified | can u help pls |
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| 06:13.46 | mystified | anyone here |
| 06:16.08 | syco_ | mystified, could you pls go .. mystified |
| 06:18.36 | Leander | what is this 192.168.0.5 ip address? is it yours or the printer's? |
| 06:25.01 | mystified | I thought it was. but no it's not |
| 06:25.27 | mystified | there is no ip address on eth0 with ipconfig |
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| 10:09.17 | AntoFox | o/ |
| 10:23.11 | AntoFox | mate-tweak is updated |
| 10:23.53 | AntoFox | amule and java-package is now on git.devuan.org |
| 10:25.19 | AntoFox | if you want you can download from hezeh.org/packages |
| 10:25.40 | AntoFox | :) |
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| 11:24.36 | edbarx | a.cpp depends on b.cpp AND b.cpp depends on a.cpp. What should I use to compile them? Thanks. |
| 11:26.19 | edbarx | Ooops, link them? Compiling works but linking fail to produce an executable. |
| 11:40.47 | muep | I'd suggest refactoring to avoid the cyclic dep |
| 11:42.02 | muep | but regardless, I think it is normally just fine to have link-time dependencies from both a to b and b to a. sharing the exact error message might clarify |
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| 12:53.27 | aitor | edbarx: declare de classes contined in a.cpp at the begining of b.cpp, and vice versa |
| 12:53.38 | aitor | contained |
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| 13:17.10 | aitor | edbarx: i'm using CMake in my Gtk projects and i link them with TARGET_LINK_LIBRARIES |
| 13:18.48 | aitor | for example, in the case of dynamic libraries, first i do: |
| 13:19.14 | aitor | ADD_LIBRARY(a SHARED a) |
| 13:19.22 | aitor | ADD_LIBRARY(b SHARED b) |
| 13:19.57 | aitor | and then, after adding the executable: |
| 13:20.14 | aitor | target_link_libraries(${PROJECT_NAME} a b ${GTKMM_LIBRARIES}) |
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| 13:20.50 | aitor | tiem to eat :) |
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| 17:13.12 | wulllst | hi, i'm trying to build netsurf 3.6 from source on devuan jessie. netsurf has some (arguably unnecessarily) strange build instructions (see: http://source.netsurf-browser.org/netsurf.git/plain/Docs/QUICK-START). executing make, i get the "Unable to find library for: CSS (libcss)". unfortunately, i wasn't able to find a package libcss or lbcss-dev through apt. |
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| 17:27.28 | golinux | wulllst: Have you checked backports for netsurf 3.6? netsurf 3.2 is in the main jessie repo. |
| 17:30.14 | wulllst | golinux: well it's not in debian's jessie backports |
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| 17:31.32 | golinux | was to lazy to uncomment backports and check |
| 17:31.44 | golinux | *too |
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| 17:34.45 | wulllst | golinux: isn't there a webinterface to check such things for devuan? |
| 17:38.09 | golinux | Not that I've seen |
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| 17:38.35 | golinux | Only forked packages, packages specifically built for Devuan blacklisted packages. Links are on the devuan.org index page |
| 17:39.16 | wulllst | golinux: but that also means that if it's not in debian backports, it will not be in devuan backports, right? |
| 17:39.44 | golinux | Yes. |
| 17:40.35 | golinux | I suppose you could check ascii but that's an adventure you might not want to take on |
| 17:44.09 | wulllst | well, why not, i've got a nice "little" testing machine running here. also: i just want to look up something in netsurf 3.6. in the 3.2 version the pref dialogs are messed up (at least for the german translation). just want to see if that has been fixed in 3.6. |
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| 18:06.24 | wulllst | well, installing the netsurf package from ascii on jessei through apt apparently doesn't break anything. also the dialogs look fine (although they haven't been translated yet). |
| 18:07.04 | wulllst | there's one caveat hwoever: you need to got with "apt-get install netsurf-gtk -t ascii", since netsurf itself is just a transitional package |
| 18:32.27 | wulllst | does anyone know of any trustworthy reviews of netsurf that also take a closer look at it security- and privacy-wise? i've already searched the web a little, but didn't really find anything. |
| 18:36.46 | golinux | Did you see this posted to dng? http://troubleshooters.com/linux/surf.htm |
| 18:37.30 | golinux | Maybe another option? And check the thread for discussion. |
| 18:42.29 | wulllst | golinux: well, i read about browsers in dng, yes, but didn't come across that link. i'll look into it as well as into the discussion. if i remember right, i've already tried surf some time ago and found it a bit too bare for my linking. but i could give it another try. |
| 18:49.56 | golinux | wulllst: Would be interested in your assessment. It's on my todo list - I'm gathering the energy and determination to give it a try. |
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| 18:53.28 | wulllst | golinux: ok, i'll report back on my impression. probably this is even better then trying to get busy with w3m which really has some hilariously awkward keybindings. |
| 18:57.47 | golinux | It might be useful to report your feedback on the dev1galaxy forum so others could benefit. |
| 19:01.03 | wulllst | golinux: well, i just started reading and bumped into the following: "Also, the only way to configure Surf is to recompile it". i think that's not for me then. |
| 19:03.02 | wulllst | what's more: "And when you modify by recompilation, you'll find that Surf depends on a surprising number of other software you might not have installed." |
| 19:03.20 | wulllst | seems, surf is so bigly minimalistic, it would really get in my way. |
| 19:03.29 | KatolaZ | wulllst: it's much easier than you mught expect |
| 19:03.36 | KatolaZ | :) |
| 19:03.50 | KatolaZ | you can use the dev-src |
| 19:03.52 | KatolaZ | you can use the deb-src |
| 19:04.10 | KatolaZ | and get a new deb package every time you change something |
| 19:04.42 | KatolaZ | I should probably write a simple howto on that |
| 19:04.49 | KatolaZ | just to demistify the whole process :) |
| 19:06.37 | wulllst | KatolaZ: well it's ok if that is how some want to handle things. but i really like to simply install packages and then have my nice little config files that i can edit. i almost never build software from source, if there's no good reason (but if there is, i do). |
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| 19:07.05 | KatolaZ | wulllst: it mostly depend on what you mean by configuration |
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| 19:07.26 | KatolaZ | the file you have to change to customise surf is no more than a text file |
| 19:07.37 | KatolaZ | with a few variables set |
| 19:07.55 | KatolaZ | then to "recompile" you just launch "dpkg-buildpackage" |
| 19:08.01 | KatolaZ | and you get a new deb. |
| 19:08.02 | golinux | I second this idea! <KatolaZ> I should probably write a simple howto on that |
| 19:08.15 | KatolaZ | golinux: :) |
| 19:08.28 | KatolaZ | it's pretty straightforward, nothing special |
| 19:08.34 | KatolaZ | but I will give it a try anyway |
| 19:08.36 | KatolaZ | :) |
| 19:08.51 | KatolaZ | the whole process works for *any* deb package, indeed |
| 19:08.54 | KatolaZ | not just for surf |
| 19:08.58 | golinux | Recompiling anything is a very big deal in my world |
| 19:09.12 | wulllst | KatolaZ: well, i'm just trying to imagine i had to recompile openbox everytime i made changes in on of it's config files. but maybe that comparison is not fair. |
| 19:09.46 | KatolaZ | wulllst: the thing is that there is not that much you can change in surf anyway :D |
| 19:10.10 | KatolaZ | it's just a browser |
| 19:10.12 | KatolaZ | a bare one |
| 19:10.25 | KatolaZ | able just to retrieve resources via HTTP |
| 19:10.35 | KatolaZ | and to show them, if they are HTML and images |
| 19:10.45 | KatolaZ | or to download them if they are not html + images |
| 19:10.47 | KatolaZ | fullstop |
| 19:11.14 | wulllst | KatolaZ: right, an as i've read in the aforementioned document, there is more or less no real TLS support there, right? |
| 19:11.23 | KatolaZ | that's WRONG |
| 19:11.30 | KatolaZ | as I said in my last post in the ML |
| 19:11.35 | KatolaZ | that's simply WRONG |
| 19:11.46 | KatolaZ | surf has builtin and default support for TLS |
| 19:11.46 | wulllst | KatolaZ: ok, nice to hear that |
| 19:12.24 | golinux | suggested that wulllst read the dng thread |
| 19:12.34 | wulllst | ok, i'll read the whole document even if i'm probably not going to be using surf in the end. |
| 19:12.57 | golinux | The dng thread is different from the document. ;) |
| 19:13.24 | wulllst | golinux: i know. but thanks for pointing it out again. |
| 19:13.41 | golinux | wulthe TLS discussion is in there |
| 19:13.55 | wulllst | golinux: ok. |
| 19:14.21 | KatolaZ | wulllst: you don't need the whole document to give surf a try :D |
| 19:15.04 | KatolaZ | just apt-get install surf tabbed |
| 19:15.06 | KatolaZ | and then |
| 19:15.17 | KatolaZ | tabbed surf -e |
| 19:15.20 | KatolaZ | fullstop |
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| 19:20.27 | witeds | i just installed devuan last night i noticed there is no packages for gstreamer0.10 is there a way to get them or would the deb packages from debians site work ok? |
| 19:23.51 | wulllst | KatolaZ: Well, you are somehow right. But i think i prefer to read first and test second. |
| 19:23.53 | KatolaZ | witeds: ? |
| 19:24.33 | witeds | still here |
| 19:24.35 | KatolaZ | wulllst: good approach ;) |
| 19:25.11 | wulllst | witeds: did you try apt-cache search gstreamer0.10? |
| 19:25.12 | KatolaZ | witeds: gstreamer0.10 is in devuna |
| 19:25.17 | KatolaZ | ~devuan |
| 19:25.53 | KatolaZ | they are in main |
| 19:26.10 | witeds | i need gstreamer0.10: ffmpeg, nice, good, bad, ugly,realy-bad |
| 19:26.28 | KatolaZ | you have both gstreamer0.10 and gstreamer1.0 |
| 19:27.20 | witeds | the only one listed under apt is gstreamer0.10-qapt |
| 19:27.31 | KatolaZ | uh? |
| 19:27.40 | fsmithred | what is tabbed supposed to do? When I tried 'tabbed surf -e' I got a surf window and an extra window with nothing in it. |
| 19:27.59 | KatolaZ | fsmithred: tabbed does the tabbing :) |
| 19:28.13 | fsmithred | I couldn't figure out how to use it. |
| 19:28.29 | KatolaZ | CTRL+SHIFT+ENTER to create a new sirf tab |
| 19:28.31 | KatolaZ | within tabbed |
| 19:28.46 | fsmithred | cool, thanks |
| 19:28.59 | fsmithred | I see that I have 'man tabbed' so I will look at it again. |
| 19:29.09 | KatolaZ | in surf you set the URL after pressing "g" |
| 19:29.46 | golinux | witeds: Do not mix debian repos with devuan ones |
| 19:30.04 | witeds | which is why im asking befor trying any thing |
| 19:30.17 | golinux | Check the dmo repo for those packages |
| 19:30.22 | KatolaZ | witeds: gstreamer0.10 and gstreamer1.0 are in devuan |
| 19:30.33 | KatolaZ | apt-cache policy gstreamer0.10- |
| 19:30.49 | KatolaZ | and you will see where you can install those packages from |
| 19:31.26 | witeds | E: Unable to locate package gstreamer0.10-nice |
| 19:31.26 | witeds | E: Couldn't find any package by glob 'gstreamer0.10-nice' |
| 19:31.27 | witeds | E: Couldn't find any package by regex 'gstreamer0.10-nice' |
| 19:31.32 | KatolaZ | root@akela:~# apt-cache search gstreamer0.10 |
| 19:31.32 | KatolaZ | gstreamer0.10-gnonlin - non-linear editing module for GStreamer |
| 19:31.32 | KatolaZ | gstreamer0.10-gnonlin-dbg - non-linear editing module for GStreamer |
| 19:31.32 | KatolaZ | gstreamer0.10-gnonlin-doc - GStreamer documentation for the non-linear editing module |
| 19:31.35 | KatolaZ | gstreamer0.10-chromaprint - GStreamer plugin for calculating audio fingerprints |
| 19:31.37 | KatolaZ | gstreamer0.10-fluendo-mp3 - Fluendo mp3 decoder GStreamer 0.10 plugin |
| 19:31.40 | KatolaZ | gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad - GStreamer plugins from the "bad" set |
| 19:31.42 | KatolaZ | gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad-dbg - GStreamer plugins from the "bad" set (debug symbols) |
| 19:31.45 | KatolaZ | gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad-doc - GStreamer documentation for plugins from the "bad" set |
| 19:31.48 | KatolaZ | gstreamer0.10-alsa - GStreamer plugin for ALSA |
| 19:31.51 | KatolaZ | ...... |
| 19:31.53 | KatolaZ | and so on |
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| 19:32.46 | KatolaZ | have you given apt-get update? |
| 19:33.08 | wulllst | golinux: what's the subject of the dng thread you were talking about (surf and such)? can you point me to that? i'm not on the list, just read the archive. |
| 19:33.40 | golinux | https://lists.dyne.org/lurker/message/20170310.063002.349a8bdd.en.html |
| 19:34.17 | wulllst | golinux: thanks. |
| 19:34.24 | KatolaZ | https://lists.dyne.org/lurker/thread/20170310.070156.0c09016c.en.html |
| 19:34.27 | KatolaZ | oops |
| 19:34.29 | KatolaZ | sorry! |
| 19:34.46 | witeds | guess its not in the test package ascii if that was even the right infromation |
| 19:35.43 | KatolaZ | witeds: I am running devuan jessie |
| 19:35.47 | KatolaZ | and I see those packages |
| 19:36.11 | witeds | i changed the repository back to jessie and they show up now |
| 19:36.15 | golinux | Me too and I have 4 gstreamer0.10 pkgs installed |
| 19:36.21 | witeds | still missing ffmpeg and realy-bad |
| 19:36.35 | golinux | ffmpeg is in dmo repo. |
| 19:37.07 | KatolaZ | root@akela:/etc/apt# apt-cache search -n ffmpeg |
| 19:37.09 | KatolaZ | .... |
| 19:37.14 | KatolaZ | ffmpeg - Tools for transcoding, streaming and playing of multimedia files |
| 19:37.17 | KatolaZ | .... |
| 19:37.21 | golinux | http://www.deb-multimedia.org/ |
| 19:37.37 | witeds | ok so deb-multimedia.org will be ok to add then? |
| 19:37.39 | KatolaZ | oh |
| 19:37.46 | KatolaZ | I see it in jessie-backports |
| 19:37.59 | KatolaZ | witeds: it might be safer to add jessie-backports |
| 19:38.12 | KatolaZ | from auto.devuan.org |
| 19:38.20 | golinux | It didn't used to be in debian repos, even non-free iirc |
| 19:38.23 | KatolaZ | ~auto.mirror.devuan.org |
| 19:39.06 | KatolaZ | deb http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/merged/ jessie-backports main contrib |
| 19:39.22 | KatolaZ | this is what you should put in your sources.list to have jessie backports |
| 19:41.38 | witeds | added and still no option to install gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg or gstreamer0.10-plugin-realy-bad |
| 19:41.59 | KatolaZ | witeds: really-bad might be in nonfree? |
| 19:42.01 | KatolaZ | dunno |
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| 19:44.38 | KatolaZ | witeds: BTW, really-bad is not even in debian.... |
| 19:45.01 | KatolaZ | it's in dmo though |
| 19:45.01 | witeds | on debian befor switching devuan i used deb-multimedia.org to get both of them |
| 19:45.13 | KatolaZ | then use dmo :) |
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| 19:57.09 | witeds | thank you for your time and help |
| 19:57.57 | KatolaZ | witeds: no problem :) |
| 19:59.17 | wulllst | KatolaZ: well, if i got that right, using surf, you can configure everything, since there is no "configuraion" as apart from buildoptions. so, you would also be able to cmpletely configure key bindings, right? |
| 20:01.33 | KatolaZ | wulllst: in principle, yes |
| 20:01.45 | KatolaZ | you can configure your keybindings if you like |
| 20:02.23 | KatolaZ | wulllst: shall we make an experiment? |
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| 20:02.46 | KatolaZ | would you like to help me writing the doc to recompile surf under devuan? |
| 20:03.00 | KatolaZ | you just need to follow the instructions while I write them down |
| 20:03.28 | KatolaZ | if you find it reasonable, it means that the descriptions are clear enough |
| 20:03.34 | wulllst | KatolaZ: well, i was just going to try the deb-src variant |
| 20:03.38 | KatolaZ | shall we try? |
| 20:03.40 | KatolaZ | ok |
| 20:03.42 | KatolaZ | :D |
| 20:03.44 | KatolaZ | let's see |
| 20:03.54 | wulllst | ok |
| 20:04.11 | wulllst | should i execute apt-get build-dep surf first? |
| 20:04.17 | KatolaZ | nope |
| 20:04.28 | KatolaZ | you should follow what I write :D |
| 20:04.44 | KatolaZ | so first command |
| 20:04.47 | KatolaZ | apt-get source surf |
| 20:04.50 | wulllst | ok, i'm on a testing machine. so there will be no harm |
| 20:04.57 | KatolaZ | great |
| 20:05.11 | KatolaZ | if it works, other people will benefit maybe |
| 20:05.30 | wulllst | question: isn't it reasonable to put that source into /usr/local/src? or is that automatically done? |
| 20:05.54 | KatolaZ | you can keep your sources wherever you prefer |
| 20:05.59 | wulllst | ok |
| 20:06.05 | KatolaZ | by defaule apt-get source downloads in the current directory |
| 20:06.11 | KatolaZ | ~default |
| 20:07.02 | wulllst | ok, i've put it into /usr/local/src |
| 20:07.15 | KatolaZ | great |
| 20:07.19 | KatolaZ | so |
| 20:07.27 | KatolaZ | you should now see something like: |
| 20:07.35 | KatolaZ | surf-0.7 surf_0.7-2~bpo8+1.debian.tar.xz surf_0.7-2~bpo8+1.dsc surf_0.7.orig.tar.gz |
| 20:07.38 | KatolaZ | right? |
| 20:07.48 | wulllst | it's 0.6 here, but yes |
| 20:07.58 | wulllst | and no bpo stuff |
| 20:07.59 | KatolaZ | ok whatever |
| 20:08.05 | KatolaZ | are you using devuan? |
| 20:08.09 | wulllst | yes |
| 20:08.18 | KatolaZ | have you apt-get update-d? |
| 20:08.18 | wulllst | jessie |
| 20:08.30 | KatolaZ | oh yes |
| 20:08.38 | KatolaZ | I might have the backports version.... |
| 20:09.04 | KatolaZ | wait |
| 20:09.08 | wulllst | i updated package sources just 30 minuted ago or so |
| 20:09.12 | KatolaZ | i will go for the 0.6 version then |
| 20:09.18 | KatolaZ | nono it's my fault |
| 20:09.28 | KatolaZ | I am using tjessie-backports |
| 20:10.08 | KatolaZ | so you should have something like: |
| 20:10.10 | KatolaZ | surf-0.6 surf_0.6-1.debian.tar.xz surf_0.6-1.dsc surf_0.6.orig.tar.gz |
| 20:10.16 | wulllst | right |
| 20:10.27 | KatolaZ | then |
| 20:10.30 | KatolaZ | cd surf-0.6 |
| 20:10.55 | KatolaZ | you should see a file named config.def.h |
| 20:11.09 | wulllst | one second... |
| 20:11.31 | wulllst | ok |
| 20:11.41 | wulllst | yes, i see that file |
| 20:12.33 | KatolaZ | great |
| 20:12.50 | KatolaZ | ok, what do you want to modify now? |
| 20:12.58 | wulllst | why not? |
| 20:13.20 | wulllst | ok, sry |
| 20:13.26 | KatolaZ | no prob |
| 20:13.28 | KatolaZ | what? |
| 20:13.29 | wulllst | what is there to modify |
| 20:13.40 | KatolaZ | just open config.def.h |
| 20:13.43 | wulllst | ok |
| 20:14.06 | KatolaZ | can you read it? |
| 20:14.30 | wulllst | yes |
| 20:14.42 | KatolaZ | the first few options are colours used for different things |
| 20:14.45 | wulllst | well maybe, it should put downloads into a download folder |
| 20:15.22 | KatolaZ | ok |
| 20:15.27 | KatolaZ | let's try that |
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| 20:15.34 | KatolaZ | you can specify a default download folder |
| 20:15.47 | KatolaZ | (and that will be where you will find all the downloaded files) |
| 20:15.53 | wulllst | right |
| 20:17.01 | KatolaZ | as you can see, there is a #define DOWNLOAD(d,r) |
| 20:17.03 | KatolaZ | somewhere |
| 20:17.07 | wulllst | got it |
| 20:17.12 | KatolaZ | it should be line 36 |
| 20:17.28 | KatolaZ | now surf does not download stuff by itsels |
| 20:17.32 | KatolaZ | it uses curl to do that |
| 20:17.40 | wulllst | ok |
| 20:18.37 | KatolaZ | now we can "force" curl to put all the files in the folder "Downloads" |
| 20:18.41 | wulllst | i need to install that... |
| 20:18.51 | KatolaZ | I think you have it already... |
| 20:18.52 | KatolaZ | :) |
| 20:19.04 | wulllst | nope |
| 20:19.23 | KatolaZ | ok |
| 20:19.25 | wulllst | ok, got it |
| 20:19.30 | KatolaZ | so |
| 20:19.52 | KatolaZ | let's assume that you want to use the folder ~/Downloads |
| 20:20.17 | wulllst | right |
| 20:20.43 | KatolaZ | you see the line that starts with "stterm-e /bin/sh"...etc |
| 20:20.48 | KatolaZ | do you have stterm? |
| 20:21.03 | KatolaZ | if not, you can change stterm with xterm |
| 20:21.15 | wulllst | i've got xterm |
| 20:21.29 | KatolaZ | ok |
| 20:21.52 | KatolaZ | replace stterm with xterm |
| 20:21.56 | wulllst | done |
| 20:22.12 | KatolaZ | I will do the same |
| 20:22.14 | KatolaZ | now |
| 20:22.33 | KatolaZ | we should "cd ~/Downloads" before curl |
| 20:22.40 | KatolaZ | and cd - afterwards |
| 20:22.49 | KatolaZ | I have put something like: |
| 20:22.55 | KatolaZ | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:22.58 | KatolaZ | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:23.01 | KatolaZ | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:23.03 | KatolaZ | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:23.10 | KatolaZ | notice the "cd ~/Downloads/;" before "curl" |
| 20:23.17 | KatolaZ | and the "cd -" after "sleep 5" |
| 20:23.27 | KatolaZ | these are the only two change |
| 20:23.30 | wulllst | ah, ok, i was search for a outout dir option of curl... |
| 20:23.31 | KatolaZ | ~changes |
| 20:23.39 | KatolaZ | no way :) |
| 20:23.58 | KatolaZ | you don't have that in curl :) |
| 20:24.05 | KatolaZ | but you don't need it |
| 20:24.07 | KatolaZ | :) |
| 20:25.13 | wulllst | what does the "-" after cd mean? |
| 20:25.24 | wulllst | couldn't you just "cd" |
| 20:25.46 | KatolaZ | you get back |
| 20:25.55 | KatolaZ | well, you could |
| 20:26.03 | KatolaZ | it's not necessary, indeed |
| 20:26.09 | KatolaZ | just a good habit |
| 20:26.11 | wulllst | ok, i'll leave it out then |
| 20:26.11 | KatolaZ | :) |
| 20:26.15 | KatolaZ | np |
| 20:26.18 | wulllst | ok, i'leave it in then |
| 20:26.22 | KatolaZ | now that you are done |
| 20:26.29 | KatolaZ | save your config.def.h |
| 20:26.36 | wulllst | ok |
| 20:26.43 | MinceR | or you could run the whole thing in a subshell and then your parent shell's working directory wouldn't even change :> |
| 20:27.17 | KatolaZ | that's exactly what is happening there |
| 20:27.25 | KatolaZ | since the shell is executed inside a subprocess |
| 20:27.27 | KatolaZ | xterm |
| 20:27.38 | KatolaZ | it's just a way of having a feedback about downloads |
| 20:27.55 | KatolaZ | wulllst: |
| 20:28.01 | KatolaZ | are you there? |
| 20:28.12 | wulllst | KatolaZ: yes |
| 20:28.17 | KatolaZ | great |
| 20:28.27 | KatolaZ | now you just give: |
| 20:28.29 | KatolaZ | dpkg-buildpackage |
| 20:28.42 | wulllst | inside the surf-0.6 dir? |
| 20:29.08 | KatolaZ | yep |
| 20:29.20 | KatolaZ | it might ask for a few missing dependencies |
| 20:29.21 | wulllst | would i generally have to be root for this ( i am now) |
| 20:29.32 | KatolaZ | it's recommended |
| 20:29.39 | KatolaZ | not mandatory though |
| 20:29.53 | KatolaZ | in my case I got: |
| 20:29.55 | KatolaZ | dpkg-checkbuilddeps: Unmet build dependencies: cdbs dh-buildinfo libgtk2.0-dev libwebkitgtk-dev |
| 20:30.00 | KatolaZ | so I just give: |
| 20:30.07 | wulllst | almost the same here |
| 20:30.17 | KatolaZ | apt-get install cdbs dh-buildinfo libgtk2.0-dev libwebkitgtk-dev |
| 20:30.39 | KatolaZ | this will be necessary only once |
| 20:30.52 | KatolaZ | when apt-get install is done, you just give: |
| 20:30.59 | KatolaZ | dpkg-buildpackage |
| 20:31.15 | wulllst | wow, that pulling some load.. |
| 20:31.30 | KatolaZ | well, that's webkit-related |
| 20:31.37 | wulllst | KatolaZ: ok. |
| 20:31.58 | KatolaZ | now if you give |
| 20:31.59 | KatolaZ | dpkg-buildpackage |
| 20:32.06 | KatolaZ | you should get another kind of error |
| 20:32.16 | KatolaZ | which says that you have modified the sources |
| 20:32.16 | wulllst | that is 108 packages wieghing 73,2 MB...installing that now |
| 20:32.22 | KatolaZ | wow :D |
| 20:32.57 | wulllst | KatolaZ: i basically had not installed anything apart from x and jwm before... |
| 20:33.02 | KatolaZ | ok |
| 20:33.04 | KatolaZ | great |
| 20:33.12 | KatolaZ | most of the stuff will be used elsewhere as well |
| 20:33.13 | KatolaZ | :) |
| 20:33.25 | wulllst | ok, this takes a minute or two |
| 20:33.32 | KatolaZ | no problem |
| 20:35.41 | wulllst | it's a pentuim4, just to mention... |
| 20:36.37 | KatolaZ | wow, that's a great machine :) |
| 20:37.08 | wulllst | now dpkg-buildpackage again. |
| 20:37.14 | KatolaZ | yep |
| 20:37.35 | KatolaZ | is it crunching? |
| 20:37.45 | KatolaZ | (it shouldn't) |
| 20:37.52 | KatolaZ | you have to give: |
| 20:37.53 | wulllst | yes |
| 20:37.58 | KatolaZ | dpkg-source --commit |
| 20:37.58 | KatolaZ | first |
| 20:37.59 | KatolaZ | ok |
| 20:38.01 | wulllst | right |
| 20:38.08 | KatolaZ | great |
| 20:38.10 | KatolaZ | you are done |
| 20:38.15 | wulllst | inside the surf-0.6 dir? |
| 20:38.20 | KatolaZ | yes |
| 20:38.31 | KatolaZ | when dpkg-buildpackage is done, you will find a new deb package |
| 20:38.43 | KatolaZ | ../surf_0.6-1_amd64.deb |
| 20:38.49 | wulllst | give name for patch... |
| 20:38.52 | KatolaZ | yes |
| 20:39.00 | wulllst | any name? |
| 20:39.02 | KatolaZ | just put a description |
| 20:39.17 | KatolaZ | "using xterm and putting downloaded files into ~/Donwloads" |
| 20:39.20 | KatolaZ | :) |
| 20:39.20 | wulllst | like "changed config" |
| 20:39.22 | wulllst | ok |
| 20:39.24 | KatolaZ | yep |
| 20:39.25 | KatolaZ | whatever |
| 20:39.32 | KatolaZ | that's just for your reference |
| 20:39.54 | wulllst | it puts me into nano |
| 20:39.58 | KatolaZ | then it will open a changelog |
| 20:39.59 | KatolaZ | yes |
| 20:40.03 | KatolaZ | just save the file and exit |
| 20:40.13 | wulllst | that would be to write the changelog, right? |
| 20:40.18 | KatolaZ | yep |
| 20:40.26 | wulllst | now build again |
| 20:40.42 | KatolaZ | yep |
| 20:40.58 | KatolaZ | and you are done |
| 20:40.59 | wulllst | building |
| 20:41.10 | KatolaZ | when dpkg-buildpackage is done, you will find a new deb package |
| 20:41.14 | KatolaZ | ../surf_0.6-1_amd64.deb |
| 20:41.29 | KatolaZ | next time you make a change, it will be much faster |
| 20:41.36 | KatolaZ | since you don't need to install dependencies any more |
| 20:41.41 | wulllst | theres a gpg key problem |
| 20:41.49 | wulllst | let me see |
| 20:41.51 | KatolaZ | oh wow |
| 20:41.58 | KatolaZ | let's see |
| 20:42.06 | KatolaZ | that will be used to sign the package |
| 20:42.23 | wulllst | but there's apckage anyway |
| 20:42.28 | KatolaZ | yep |
| 20:42.32 | KatolaZ | just install it |
| 20:42.34 | KatolaZ | :) |
| 20:42.39 | KatolaZ | and you are done |
| 20:42.46 | wulllst | ok |
| 20:42.51 | KatolaZ | gotta go |
| 20:42.52 | KatolaZ | dinner |
| 20:42.58 | KatolaZ | sorry for bothering you wulllst |
| 20:43.01 | KatolaZ | :\ |
| 20:43.12 | KatolaZ | bbl maybe |
| 20:43.21 | wulllst | ok, |
| 20:43.35 | KatolaZ | I have written a minimal README |
| 20:43.38 | wulllst | i'll have to install suckless tools, dpkgsays |
| 20:43.45 | KatolaZ | yep |
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| 20:44.03 | KatolaZ | well, we should have removed the dependency on stterm |
| 20:44.05 | KatolaZ | anyway |
| 20:44.08 | KatolaZ | next time... |
| 20:44.14 | KatolaZ | :D |
| 20:44.46 | wulllst | ok, maybe put that readme on the forum to be discussedf futher |
| 20:47.14 | golinux | KatolaZ: Yes, please post to dev1galaxy.org! |
| 20:48.45 | wulllst | well, strangely, surf needed a bit to start up and it took it approx 30 seconds to load suckless.org. |
| 20:51.29 | wulllst | how would i find all package installed from ascii on a jessie system? |
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| 21:15.52 | fsmithred | wullst, come back, or read the scrollback! |
| 21:15.54 | fsmithred | aptitude search "?narrow(?installed,?archive(ascii))" |
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| 22:09.33 | KatolaZ | golinux: never user the forum |
| 22:09.35 | KatolaZ | :( |
| 22:11.38 | KatolaZ | ~used |
| 22:12.00 | golinux | So register! You can use your gdo auth |
| 22:12.09 | KatolaZ | I think I am registered |
| 22:12.15 | golinux | Let me check |
| 22:12.19 | KatolaZ | only, I have never used it |
| 22:12.21 | KatolaZ | :) |
| 22:13.06 | golinux | Nope not registered yet. |
| 22:14.30 | KatolaZ | :D |
| 22:14.33 | KatolaZ | you see |
| 22:14.35 | golinux | Did you go to this page? https://dev1galaxy.org/login.php |
| 22:14.47 | KatolaZ | dunno |
| 22:14.54 | KatolaZ | don';t remember |
| 22:15.07 | KatolaZ | maybe not |
| 22:16.03 | KatolaZ | now it says "registration complete" |
| 22:16.04 | KatolaZ | :) |
| 22:16.12 | golinux | You are not registered or in the waiting queue |
| 22:16.24 | golinux | OK. Let me lookagain |
| 22:16.51 | KatolaZ | I have just logged in |
| 22:16.54 | KatolaZ | through gdo |
| 22:17.12 | golinux | Yes! You are there!! |
| 22:17.26 | KatolaZ | well golinux, let me know where I should publish such README |
| 22:17.33 | KatolaZ | I will posish it |
| 22:17.40 | KatolaZ | and post where you say |
| 22:17.41 | KatolaZ | :) |
| 22:17.52 | KatolaZ | if you think it might be useful |
| 22:18.11 | KatolaZ | it seems a bit too basic to me, but I guess it might be found handy |
| 22:18.26 | golinux | Should go here in Documentation: https://dev1galaxy.org/viewforum.php?id=7 |
| 22:18.54 | KatolaZ | I'll do that tomorrow than |
| 22:19.10 | golinux | Could you please include the link to Steve Litt's page too? |
| 22:19.21 | golinux | Great. Thanks! |
| 22:19.35 | KatolaZ | syl |
| 22:20.39 | golinux | KatolaZ: I appreciate 'basic'. ;) |
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