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| 05:16.22 | Xenguy | Well at least he lasted 15 minutes :P |
| 05:18.51 | Xenguy | We were talking about impatient newbs on another channel I think |
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| 08:27.10 | AntoFox | o/ |
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| 08:48.28 | aitor | \o |
| 08:48.58 | aitor | here you are the video: |
| 08:49.00 | aitor | http://gnuinos.org/video.mpg |
| 08:49.23 | aitor | wicd doesn't work |
| 08:49.50 | aitor | bbl |
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| 09:23.53 | aitor | here again |
| 09:26.02 | aitor | i found a packaging of bulmages in gnewsense: |
| 09:26.04 | aitor | http://ftp.caliu.cat/pub/distribucions/gnewsense-mips/pool/main/b/bulmages/ |
| 09:26.12 | aitor | what a great surprise |
| 09:28.17 | aitor | this is an old version, packaged by Rene Merou |
| 09:28.23 | aitor | https://www.google.es/search?q=rene+merou&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi0rKzgw7zSAhXGsxQKHWEXAigQsAQILQ&biw=1366&bih=589#imgrc=_ |
| 09:28.43 | aitor | he's not french:) |
| 09:28.51 | aitor | he lives in Palma de Malorca |
| 09:31.12 | aitor | Mallorca |
| 09:34.41 | aitor | hes the author of the following conceptual mapping: |
| 09:34.42 | aitor | https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Mapa_conceptual_del_software_libre.svg |
| 09:48.28 | aitor | i'm building linux-libre-4.6.2 in amd64 (sorry, in x86_64) |
| 09:50.34 | aitor | after that i'll try with the 4.9 version, which needs some changes: for example, to drop the :native qualifier from build dependencies as it is not supported in jessie |
| 09:55.01 | aitor | AlexLikeRock opened an irc for spanish speakers and they speak only in english there... |
| 09:55.16 | aitor | me siento ultrajado |
| 09:55.45 | aitor | já, qué chingoneria! |
| 09:56.05 | aitor | need to go |
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| 17:46.25 | moosnat | Hello, I'm curious how things that use systemd-logind will work on Devuan. In particular, Wayland compositors use systemd-logind to hand off input device handles to libinput, avoiding the need for suid on the compositor binary. How will that work on Devuan? |
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| 17:49.31 | muep | just guesses, but maybe with the wayland compositor running with SUID root, or arranging devices to be opened directly by members of some group |
| 17:53.49 | zdzichu | or maybe some will implement another daemon, or polkit helper, which will fullfil role of logind |
| 17:54.17 | moosnat | muep: (lack of familiarity here) is it possible for the wayland compositor to use a "helper" binary that is suid that opens the devices and hands off the file descriptors (or whatever the devices present themselves as) to the actual compositor? |
| 17:55.45 | moosnat | zdzichu: a quick ddg reveals `elogind`, a fork of systemd-logind developed for guixsd, could that be used by devuan? |
| 17:58.32 | zdzichu | from quick glance of README I see no mention of handling input devices permissions, but I think it should be there |
| 17:58.49 | muep | moosnat: I am not terribly familiar with it either. but I'd assume that all the techniques that an X server has traditionally used are also available for wayland compositors |
| 17:58.50 | zdzichu | anyway, the person integrating elogind in devuan would have to check it, but that won't be me |
| 18:02.59 | moosnat | also, what is the expected delay time from a Debian release to a Devuan release? |
| 18:04.20 | zdzichu | I wouldn't expected a fork to be constrained by someone's else release cycle |
| 18:05.02 | muep | depends on what sort of a fork it is |
| 18:05.30 | moosnat | zdzichu: in that case, what would you anticipate Devuan's release cycle looking like? |
| 18:08.15 | zdzichu | I'd hope for yearly releases, with 5 life support each |
| 18:08.28 | zdzichu | I don't remember seeing any concrete release plans on the mailinglist |
| 18:09.30 | moosnat | will Devuan pull from Debian's repositories and make changes (replacing systemd units with various inits' configurations) or will it diverge more? |
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| 18:18.03 | DocScrutinizer51 | !amprolla |
| 18:18.03 | infobot | nextime gave an excellent explanation how amprolla works, at https://botbot.me/freenode/devuan/2016-05-07/?msg=65646427&page=4, or https://git.devuan.org/devuan-infrastructure/amprolla |
| 18:18.33 | moosnat | ohh |
| 18:19.39 | muep | the current workflow kind of suggests that also future debian releases would get followed by some corresponding devuan release |
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| 19:22.46 | gnu_srs2 | moosnat: Maybe we should package elogind from the guix distro in Devuan? |
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| 19:27.02 | aitor | moonsnat: i need amprolla for gnuinos, this is my first priority |
| 19:28.10 | aitor | i downloaded the sources about two weeks ago, but i still didn't give it a try |
| 19:29.10 | aitor | i have to build a local repo for testing purposes, i suppose... |
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| 20:02.40 | aitor | parazyd: i added gcc-4.9-plugin-dev in build dependencies of linux-libre for grsecurity |
| 20:03.18 | aitor | bye :) |
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| 23:28.31 | gnu_srs2 | WRT: elogind, any comments? |
