| 00:04.28 | wulllst | fsmithred: i just checked the backup of /etc from the debian system i was using before i switched over to devuan. well, there's no policykit rule to be found there. |
| 00:10.52 | fsmithred | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:12.23 | wulllst | fsmithred: yes |
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| 00:23.33 | wulllst | i just noticed that "fdisk -l" is taking ages to display information. |
| 00:24.36 | fsmithred | wulllst, here's my report |
| 00:24.54 | fsmithred | I booted miyolinux, which already has openbox and pcmanfm, and automount works |
| 00:25.28 | fsmithred | I booted a new refracta install, added openbox, openbox-menu, obconf and pcmanfm, and automount works |
| 00:26.56 | wulllst | so, what am i missing here? |
| 00:27.00 | fsmithred | here's a refracta package list, if you want to compare: http://www.ibiblio.org/refracta/docs/package_list.txt |
| 00:27.07 | wulllst | ok |
| 00:27.47 | crhylove | OK! Built a Debian TOR Proxy server, now I can use that to install Devuan without having the repos tripped up by the weird upstream queuing issue. |
| 00:28.02 | crhylove | always finds a way. |
| 00:29.16 | buZz | gah |
| 00:29.26 | buZz | finished after almost 3hr with base install |
| 00:29.34 | buZz | and then it wont boot :P |
| 00:30.12 | Juesto | lol |
| 00:30.18 | wulllst | fsmithred: well, you got mate-polkit-common there, for example |
| 00:30.30 | Juesto | buZz: enter recovery, chroot and troubleshoot it :) |
| 00:30.47 | fsmithred | yeah, we were trying to get away from gnome apps |
| 00:31.44 | Juesto | remove gnome packages and make tasksel-devuan-desktop require mate instead |
| 00:31.58 | Juesto | gnome is also duplicate in tasksel |
| 00:33.40 | fsmithred | I need to go back to xfce - back in a minute |
| 00:33.44 | wulllst | fsmithred: ok, i think i found the problem |
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| 00:50.36 | wulllst | fsmithred: well, i can mount cds, but cannot unmount them. also, i additionally installed the usbmount package. now i can mount usb drives, but not unmount them. |
| 00:52.23 | fsmithred | how you trying to unmount? |
| 00:52.35 | wulllst | in pcmanfm, i mean |
| 00:52.53 | fsmithred | you still have udisks2 and not udisks? |
| 00:52.57 | wulllst | of cource, i can unmount devices using pumount all the time |
| 00:53.06 | fsmithred | oh, good |
| 00:53.20 | wulllst | well, udisks2 came with devuan. i did not deliberately install it. |
| 00:53.39 | fsmithred | try a simulated removal to see what it would break |
| 00:54.16 | fsmithred | devuan also comes with xfce normally, and I'm sure that there wasn't a lot of testing in openbox |
| 00:55.02 | wulllst | i'm sure, it's not an issue related to openbox. |
| 00:55.26 | fsmithred | you started with a minimal install and added what you wanted? |
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| 00:56.00 | wulllst | well, i used a standard install without a GUI an then built on that, yes. |
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| 00:57.10 | wulllst1 | btw, removing udisks2 would remove gvfs, gvfs-fuse and gvfs-deamons |
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| 00:57.51 | fsmithred | I'm not sure if that will affect you in openbox |
| 00:58.02 | fsmithred | I run without those things already - no libsystemd0 here |
| 00:58.37 | wulllst1 | fsmithred: well, maybe it's a systemd-related issue. |
| 01:01.24 | wulllst1 | maybe i could make use of parts of lxde to solve the problem |
| 01:02.28 | fsmithred | huh. miyolinux has gvfs and udisks2 |
| 01:02.45 | fsmithred | also lightdm is running |
| 01:03.00 | wulllst1 | i have a minimal lxde installation running on an office machine. there, i can mount and unmount removable media and also shutdown and reboot the system from withing X as a normal user. |
| 01:03.59 | fsmithred | got a display manager on that one? |
| 01:04.05 | wulllst1 | no |
| 01:04.15 | wulllst1 | i use startlxde |
| 01:06.35 | fsmithred | check which udisks you have on that machine |
| 01:07.09 | fsmithred | miyolinux has some lxde stuff, but refracta has none |
| 01:07.34 | wulllst1 | well, i think using lxsession as a session manager could solve my problem |
| 01:07.45 | fsmithred | maybe |
| 01:09.59 | wulllst1 | it has a whole lot of "dependencies" |
| 01:10.36 | fsmithred | it's not in miyo |
| 01:11.13 | wulllst1 | i installed it like this: apt-get install lxsession adwaita-icon-theme- lxpanel- lxtask- sudo- xscreensaver- gksu- |
| 01:12.05 | fsmithred | the minus signs block those packages? |
| 01:12.07 | wulllst1 | i don't really understand why a session manager would have to depend on an icon theme or a screensaver |
| 01:12.22 | wulllst1 | fsmithred: right "-" means "do not install" |
| 01:12.32 | fsmithred | cool, I didn't know that one |
| 01:13.17 | fsmithred | there are lots of dependencies for you to not understand |
| 01:13.23 | fsmithred | all over the place |
| 01:14.52 | wulllst1 | well, the structure of dependencies is probably one thing that will distinguish devuan from debian in the future, i guess. |
| 01:17.26 | wulllst1 | ok, i'll give startlxde a shot. back in a minute or so... |
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| 02:49.51 | crhylove | OK, having a new issue. Every time I try to install, I'm getting "Unable to install busybox" |
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| 02:50.03 | crhylove | Tried a few different things.... |
| 03:08.06 | crhylove | I keep trying to reinstall over an unclean target, but to no avail. |
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| 03:10.02 | underd0g | sup giys |
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| 03:52.14 | mystified | Hey Guys, how to stop screensaver while watching videos ? |
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| 04:19.28 | crhylove | Yeah, so, completely unable to install Devuan from this location. Can't make it DVD only, and even TOR routing the repos doesn't stop the install from hanging. |
| 04:21.46 | golinux | You should be able to install from the DVD without a connection. Don't know what the problem is unless you have Beta1 instead of Beta2 |
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| 04:28.52 | crhylove | golinux: No, this is Beta2. |
| 04:29.00 | crhylove | And it's the full DVD. |
| 04:29.12 | golinux | I don't get it . . . |
| 04:29.25 | crhylove | Tried installing with network disabled on the VM, still wouldn't install. "Bad Archive Mirror". |
| 04:29.28 | golinux | Even thoughy ou've said that several times these last days. |
| 04:29.49 | crhylove | Want me to post a quick YouTube of what I'm doing? |
| 04:29.56 | crhylove | It's a pretty typical/basic install. |
| 04:30.14 | crhylove | Have you been able to install from DVD without a network connection? |
| 04:30.27 | golinux | Why don't you try fsmithred's unofficial devuan live iso? |
| 04:30.44 | golinux | goes to get the link |
| 04:31.18 | golinux | https://sourceforge.net/projects/refracta/files/unofficial_devuan_live/ |
| 04:32.02 | golinux | Just drop the iso into VB and you're good to go. |
| 04:32.41 | golinux | Nope never installed from DVD. |
| 04:33.13 | golinux | Post the youtube and send a link to Centurion_Dan |
| 04:33.39 | golinux | That might be useful to him. |
| 04:33.51 | crhylove | Downloading that other ISO now. Thanks man! |
| 04:34.02 | crhylove | May get to that video later tonight. Or maybe not till Sunday. |
| 04:34.14 | golinux | Should have thought to mention that days ago. Been under the weather . . . |
| 04:34.26 | mystified | how to stiop screensaver during videos |
| 04:34.36 | golinux | The sooner the better for RC1 release. |
| 04:47.22 | DocScrutinizer05 | drive error http://paste.opensuse.org/84949011 http://paste.opensuse.org/64408044 any hints? |
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| 04:51.10 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://paste.opensuse.org/80751082 |
| 04:51.14 | fleeky_ | trying to install gitlab-ce , no package in the default repos , has anyone else here had experience with this? |
| 05:16.05 | golinux | mystified: Have you searched? I don't watch long videos so not a problem for me. |
| 05:23.51 | golinux | Try this: "debian turn off screensaver while watching video" |
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| 05:57.27 | Centurion_Dan | fleeky_: their was an effort to package gitlab properly for debian, but I don't know if it made it in to debian yet.... might be in experimental.. |
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| 13:31.50 | fleeky_ | centurion_Dan thanks , ill check out the experimental repos |
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| 16:13.37 | zdzichu | good that you've figured that out |
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| 18:30.22 | golinux | crhylove: How did you get on with the unofficial_devuan_live iso? |
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| 18:41.42 | fsmithred | I just did another install from beta2 amd64 DVD with no network |
| 18:41.53 | fsmithred | I want to know what crhylove is doing wrong. |
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| 18:57.35 | edbarx | Replacing dhclient and wpa_supplicant with a fresh instance in an established connection does not break it. |
| 19:01.18 | crhylove | fsmithred: I would like to know also. |
| 19:01.44 | crhylove | Unfortunately I have a client in Arizona with an emergency and I don't get to play right now. |
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| 19:05.14 | fsmithred | back |
| 19:05.21 | fsmithred | ok |
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| 19:06.09 | fsmithred | during install, at Configure Package Manager, you get to say No to mirror. That should do it. |
| 19:11.08 | crhylove | There's a No option? |
| 19:11.12 | crhylove | feels pretty dumb. |
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| 19:12.34 | crhylove | Will look for that after I figure out what these stupid Dental Xray logs are saying. |
| 19:26.51 | fsmithred | ok. It's after partitioning. |
| 19:34.54 | fsmithred | and before tasksel |
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| 22:45.43 | fleeky_ | hey there, tried installing gitlab |
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| 22:46.01 | fleeky_ | says its running but its unable to resolve anything, anyone else had experience setting up gitlab with devuan ? |
| 22:46.16 | fleeky_ | also there is no gitlab-ctl that comes with the gitlab package for devuan , ? |
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| 23:06.19 | fleeky_ | forget it , unicorn.rb was pointing to the wrong address |
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