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| 00:07.50 | Juesto | what's this ? "W: No priority (or zero) specified for pin" |
| 00:07.53 | Juesto | how do i fix\ |
| 00:08.07 | Juesto | it appears every time apt finishes |
| 00:08.36 | fsmithred | what's pinned now? |
| 00:09.31 | fsmithred | 'apt-cache policy' will show you priorities for all repos you have enabled |
| 00:09.48 | Juesto | jessie-backports, i guess i should remove that or uncomment backports |
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| 00:10.36 | fsmithred | that's still at -1? |
| 00:10.42 | Juesto | 0 |
| 00:11.06 | fsmithred | so either comment out the deb line in sources or change priority to 100 |
| 00:11.09 | Juesto | no wonder it shows that warning |
| 00:11.49 | Juesto | there |
| 00:13.28 | Juesto | apparently console scrollback is limited |
| 00:13.34 | Juesto | to like 5 times only fsmithred |
| 01:04.28 | Juesto | synaptic seems to be buggy |
| 01:04.36 | Juesto | it automatically scrolls up when i select a package |
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| 01:36.46 | Juesto | jeez i cant get rid of certain stuff |
| 01:36.56 | Juesto | because it causes a mass dependency issue] |
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| 02:25.31 | Juesto | explain me how i can run 64 bits code in 32 bits |
| 02:25.38 | Juesto | i see gdb64 here |
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| 02:36.02 | Juesto | Should i remove all metapackages? |
| 02:36.11 | Juesto | and additionally filter them perhaps |
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| 05:58.55 | Juesto | jeez |
| 05:59.06 | Juesto | gnome metapackage is broken |
| 06:06.05 | golinux | Juesto: GNOME is broken!! Has been since gnome 2 |
| 06:06.37 | Juesto | golinux: why? it is also not broken in debian IIRC |
| 06:07.18 | golinux | That was a philosophical comment not a technical one. |
| 06:07.39 | Juesto | ... |
| 06:08.17 | golinux | I don't think you can install gnome 3 on devuan and still have devuan. Mate is OK. |
| 06:08.48 | golinux | Current gnome is too tied to systemd |
| 06:09.25 | Juesto | why packages are still provided then |
| 06:09.32 | Juesto | why recent packages* |
| 06:10.07 | Juesto | i find this breakage kind of unacceptable |
| 06:11.36 | golinux | Because devuan mirrors the Debian repos and the gnome hairball isn't a priority |
| 06:12.12 | Juesto | if its broken, why not remove it entirely? |
| 06:13.16 | golinux | Because parts of gnome aren't a problem. I use some myself. |
| 06:13.33 | Juesto | Then why not remove the problematic parts |
| 06:13.42 | Juesto | or fix the versioning |
| 06:17.23 | golinux | Yeah, in our spare time. Priorities. Someone may be trying to clean it up, Dunno. |
| 06:18.28 | golinux | Search the dng mail list for discussion of gnome and other desktops. Which work and which don't |
| 06:20.48 | Juesto | where? |
| 06:22.17 | golinux | https://lists.dyne.org/lurker/list/dng.en.html |
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| 09:02.15 | edbarx | << ip a | grep "State UP" >> gives unreliable results if one wants to unload any daemon attached to a crashed or unsuccessful connection. I will use << pgrep dhclient | grep wlan >> which should tell whether any daemons are flying around suspciously. |
| 09:05.05 | muep | that sounds like it would only catch dhclient processes |
| 09:19.42 | edbarx | It will catch dhclient processes that are attached to the network interface being used, which is crucial if one wants to do proper cleanup. Otherwise dangling daemons may remain unload which is bad. |
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| 09:22.22 | TorC | I'm looking through the forum and log, but while I'm doing that, does anyone know if sleep and/or hibernate on laptops are just plain broken in Devuan? |
| 09:22.36 | muep | I would prefer having programs track the child processes they start and clean them up in a more robust way than "the name of this looks like it was started by me" |
| 09:38.16 | TorC | Well, I'm not finding it so quickly as I thought I might, but I'm not entirely surprised. I've got a (new) Think Penguin Galapagos, and I've been getting the reboot after (apparently working) suspend via pm-suspend. |
| 09:40.19 | TorC | Apparently it should be possible, the question is how much work will it be in Devuan. It was working in the stock Parabola. |
| 09:41.19 | TorC | This is a fresh and updated netinstall of Devuan, from Beta2. |
| 09:42.22 | muep | rtdid you try it with some other distro? |
| 09:42.53 | muep | ah, you did |
| 09:43.27 | edbarx | It is not the 'name of this looks like it was started by me' but it the fact that it is managing the same network interface and also it is the same program I started. Well, what you say makes sense: that is my aim, but give evolution its due time. |
| 09:49.22 | TorC | muep, yes I did. Actually, I thought of trying another distro when I was having trouble, then realized I already had. |
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| 09:53.53 | Juesto | hi |
| 09:54.58 | TorC | This machine really flies, especially after I stole the reasonably newish ssd from my aging (arguably ancient) netbook and installed root on a striped partition with the M.2 ssd. Now if I can just get suspend working. |
| 09:55.24 | TorC | Didn't think to try hibernate, but I'd like to get that working to a swap file on / |
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| 10:38.58 | Xenguy | TorC: pm-suspend and pm-hibernate both work here ; I think it depends largely on the hardware, but I don't know that for sure. |
| 10:39.58 | TorC | Xenguy: I've just realized that the stock Devuan kernel is pretty old. I'm thinking the next try is to enable backports, or at least steal the kernel from there. |
| 10:40.38 | TorC | Was just on my way to look up the proper way to do that. |
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| 10:47.19 | TorC | How bad is it to just run with backports enabled, rather than taking specific packages? |
| 10:48.32 | Juesto | TorC: might hit important bugs especially since you're running a newer version of the kernel with a specification change |
| 10:48.54 | Juesto | i had issues with desktop-base configuration due to the kernel |
| 10:49.13 | Juesto | and my wired interface name has changed |
| 10:49.36 | Juesto | Oh i misread |
| 10:49.58 | Juesto | i guess nothing bad, but just that? i've installed with backports enabled |
| 10:50.16 | Juesto | so i got like about 160 packages on bp |
| 10:50.52 | TorC | Easy enough to do. I've done the same on my desktop, but figured I'd check since this is a brand new installation on a new system and I'm avoiding bringing over random configs just to keep the cruft down. |
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| 10:51.11 | TorC | *to misread, that is :) |
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| 11:57.00 | TorC | Well, looks like it was a case of kernel too old for the hardware. Updating that seems to have solved suspend. Next problem will be backlight brightness adjust, but I'm going to bed now. I'll read the scrollback if anyone posts pointers. |
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| 12:11.32 | jaromil | TorC: I change brightness with a cat of a integer to /sys/class/backlight/intel_backlight/brightness |
| 12:12.13 | jaromil | path and max values may vary, a simple euclidean proportion helps me turn a percentage into the actual number after knowing the maximum allowed |
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| 12:55.10 | pedropt | anyone from devuan denvelopers here ? |
| 12:56.16 | pedropt | there are some stuff in documentation that must be changed at this url |
| 12:56.21 | pedropt | https://git.devuan.org/dev1fanboy/Upgrade-Install-Devuan/wikis/devuan-talk-version |
| 13:13.02 | edbarx | Can git manage debian/changelog automatically for every commit? |
| 13:16.51 | KatolaZ | TorC: if your laptop uses /sys/class/backlight/intel_backlight/brightness I can pass you the script I am using |
| 13:20.25 | edbarx | Ah, "git-dch"! We will see... |
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| 13:22.14 | fsmithred | ping edbarx |
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| 13:22.53 | edbarx | fsmithred: here, I am/ |
| 13:23.01 | edbarx | Ignore the / |
| 13:23.06 | fsmithred | hi |
| 13:23.34 | fsmithred | I haven't been keeping up with the details of your changes in simple-netaid/netman |
| 13:23.51 | edbarx | Backend can connect to open and wap2 routers |
| 13:24.06 | fsmithred | but I want to know if the location of where the wireless credentials are stored is still the same |
| 13:24.13 | edbarx | I tested on my router after reconfiguring it as open |
| 13:24.36 | fsmithred | nice |
| 13:24.42 | edbarx | the location is still the same, yes. The data format is |
| 13:24.49 | edbarx | network={ |
| 13:24.59 | edbarx | ssid="anessid" |
| 13:25.07 | edbarx | psk="password" |
| 13:25.09 | edbarx | } |
| 13:25.45 | fsmithred | etc/network/wifi/* is what I'm using in refractasnapshot's rsync excludes file |
| 13:26.03 | edbarx | Essentially it remained the same with the only addition of a top comment to represent security as this: #wpa2 |
| 13:26.36 | fsmithred | thanks |
| 13:27.49 | edbarx | I think, since we are now using wpa_supplicant, simple-netaid now should support all security systems even WEP but I did not do any such testing |
| 13:29.04 | fsmithred | that sounds good. I think there are still people out there using wep |
| 13:29.25 | edbarx | My router supports it as well as wpa1 |
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| 13:30.20 | edbarx | In the code I am not explicitly telling wpa_supplicant to support wpa2, the choice of security is done by wpa_supplicant itself. |
| 13:30.26 | zdzichu | my corpo uses 802.11x (PEAP) with user/pass on wired connections, will simple-netaid help with that? |
| 13:31.52 | edbarx | It all depends on what the wpa_supplicant daemon does. |
| 13:32.05 | buZz | 802.11x is WPA-Enterprise |
| 13:32.12 | buZz | PEAP is just a variant on it |
| 13:32.26 | buZz | zdzichu: you can do WPA-Enterprise with wicd , fyi, and many others |
| 13:32.27 | KatolaZ | zdzichu: the new version of setnet will support wpa-enterprise |
| 13:32.34 | KatolaZ | both PEAP and TLS |
| 13:32.40 | KatolaZ | I will release it soon |
| 13:32.45 | KatolaZ | possibly tonight |
| 13:32.50 | buZz | i made this; https://nurdspace.nl/Spacenet/wicd |
| 13:32.53 | buZz | for wicd |
| 13:32.58 | KatolaZ | I have been testing it with different configs |
| 13:32.59 | zdzichu | great |
| 13:33.02 | KatolaZ | and it works quite well |
| 13:33.21 | zdzichu | as soon as I heal my feet and go back to office I'll check |
| 13:33.33 | KatolaZ | great |
| 13:33.34 | zdzichu | but for couple of weeks I'll work from home |
| 13:33.46 | KatolaZ | I am eager to receive bug reports :) |
| 13:34.05 | KatolaZ | I have tested on a custom hostapd-based setup |
| 13:34.19 | KatolaZ | and with real WPA-enterprise networks |
| 13:34.26 | KatolaZ | and it works fine so far |
| 13:34.42 | KatolaZ | well, it's basically wpa_supplicant that works well :D |
| 13:34.49 | KatolaZ | setnet is just a wrapper :) |
| 13:35.01 | KatolaZ | bbl |
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| 13:54.06 | edbarx | KatolaZ: so, simple-netaid-backend and setnet have the same workhorse. |
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| 14:40.37 | edbarx | I have just tried WEP but it did NOT work. dhclient failed to get an IP which means for WEB there are missing entries in the .conf files. |
| 14:40.55 | edbarx | WEP not WEB |
| 14:41.41 | Humpelst1lzchen | wep? wtf |
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| 14:45.14 | aitor | edbarx: git-dch --auto |
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| 14:46.30 | cousin_luigi | Greetings. |
| 14:46.47 | edbarx | aitor: Thanks, aitor. There is now competition in creating a decent network manager for Devuan. Competition is healthy, may the best win. |
| 14:46.58 | cousin_luigi | Is there a devuan stretch in the works? |
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| 14:48.25 | aitor | :) |
| 14:50.34 | cousin_luigi | Funny question? |
| 14:56.15 | aitor | cousin_luigi: it was aimed to edbarx |
| 14:56.48 | cousin_luigi | By all means, do tell anyway:) |
| 14:57.47 | aitor | i'm looking at ikey doherty's projects; i thought solus was died, but there is a team working on it |
| 14:57.49 | aitor | https://github.com/ikeydoherty |
| 14:59.06 | edbarx | I was correct. The .conf wpa_supplicant file must contain the necessary information. No problem when the way to a solution is known. If users want WEP and other security systems I will provide the means to use them. With OPEN and WPA2 Personal, we should be serving the vast majority of users. |
| 15:01.08 | Humpelst1lzchen | ooh I actually still have a network with wep in my wpa_supplicant.conf |
| 15:01.19 | aitor | waiting for the new release of the backend |
| 15:02.04 | aitor | edbarx. i must finish my translation of the little purpy book of devuan; otherwise, hk will pull my ears :) |
| 15:02.11 | aitor | see you |
| 15:07.09 | KatolaZ | edbarx: ??? |
| 15:07.21 | KatolaZ | I don't see any competition anywhere |
| 15:07.34 | KatolaZ | setnet is just a simple wrapper, nothing serious :) |
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| 15:07.56 | KatolaZ | I don't expect many people will find it useful |
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| 15:11.13 | edbarx | I mean competition in the sense that there is more choice available. This is a healthy thing. |
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| 15:30.31 | kihubo | Hi people! |
| 15:31.22 | kihubo | anyone knows how to open a port in devuan? ...coming from ubuntu got used to the ufw.. |
| 15:31.25 | kihubo | thanks a lot |
| 15:31.58 | fsmithred | kihubo, are you running ufw now? |
| 15:32.04 | hellekin | kihubo: apt install ufw? |
| 15:32.04 | kihubo | no no no |
| 15:32.09 | kihubo | only devuan |
| 15:32.18 | fsmithred | what's closing your ports? |
| 15:32.19 | hellekin | ufw is a package in devuan |
| 15:32.24 | kihubo | should I install ufw? |
| 15:32.27 | kihubo | ok |
| 15:32.29 | kihubo | nice |
| 15:32.42 | kihubo | no idea whats closing them |
| 15:32.53 | kihubo | updated iptables and seems normal |
| 15:32.58 | fsmithred | what services did you install that you can't reach? |
| 15:33.09 | kihubo | something at port 4000 |
| 15:33.28 | fsmithred | netstat should be able to tell you what it is |
| 15:33.43 | kihubo | ran iptables-save , output said: -A INPUT -p tcp -m tcp --dport 4000 -j ACCEPT |
| 15:34.27 | kihubo | ok |
| 15:35.55 | fsmithred | what are you saving? |
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| 15:37.48 | kihubo | saved iptables -A INPUT -p tcp --dport 4000 --jump ACCEPT |
| 15:38.33 | fsmithred | these are rules you wrote or saved from 'buntu? |
| 15:39.36 | kihubo | no, these just made up them now |
| 15:40.25 | kihubo | thanks. let me check a little more |
| 15:40.35 | kihubo | the ufw thing helped. |
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| 15:40.47 | fsmithred | ok, I'm a little confused about what your question is |
| 15:42.50 | kihubo | the connection gets refused : "Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused" plain. |
| 15:43.53 | kihubo | good karma for you :) |
| 15:47.18 | fsmithred | are you running some service on that port? |
| 15:47.40 | fsmithred | normally, ports are not open until you install a service that opens a port |
| 16:05.50 | kihubo | that's what Im trying to do., to allow to get incoming connections to a mini server |
| 16:07.14 | kihubo | placed the server to listen. From netstat -a | egrep 'Proto|LISTEN': " tcp 0 0 localhost:5000 *:* LISTEN " |
| 16:07.42 | kihubo | yet ufw says: 5000/tcp closed upnp |
| 16:07.45 | kihubo | ha. |
| 16:08.26 | fsmithred | your rule said 4000 |
| 16:08.35 | kihubo | yep, changed that |
| 16:08.48 | detha | also, that only listens on localhost |
| 16:09.40 | kihubo | mmm.. ok. :) ...should have got into the software school ha. |
| 16:14.23 | kihubo | Solved. Thanks a lot. |
| 16:14.34 | Leander256 | I'm a bit late to the party but by default, all traffic is allowed |
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| 16:35.23 | kihubo | ok |
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| 18:03.55 | Weeezy | fsmithred, no luck with the usb3 set up, I ran an install on it just a few minutes ago. It won't boot. Just as you suggested might happen. |
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| 18:08.59 | Weeezy | it is in a usb2 port and was formatted and installed in a usb2 port. idk |
| 18:09.19 | Weeezy | afk for a bit. |
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| 18:29.31 | underd0g | sup |
| 18:29.50 | underd0g | do you guys have problems with java on devuan |
| 18:36.06 | KatolaZ | underd0g: what kind of problems? |
| 18:36.48 | underd0g | my i2p stopped working |
| 18:37.04 | underd0g | java wrapper problem |
| 18:37.20 | underd0g | I didn't change anything that I am aware of |
| 18:37.49 | KatolaZ | dunno, sorry! |
| 18:38.02 | KatolaZ | the only java application I use on devuan is jabref |
| 18:38.02 | Juesto | probably you hit a java bug |
| 18:38.09 | KatolaZ | and it works |
| 18:38.09 | Juesto | and its doing a segmentation fault? |
| 18:39.06 | underd0g | nope |
| 18:39.09 | underd0g | Running I2P Service... |
| 18:39.09 | underd0g | wrapper | --> Wrapper Started as Console |
| 18:39.09 | underd0g | wrapper | Java Service Wrapper Community Edition 32-bit 3.5.25 |
| 18:39.09 | underd0g | wrapper | Copyright (C) 1999-2014 Tanuki Software, Ltd. All Rights Reserved. |
| 18:39.10 | underd0g | wrapper | http://wrapper.tanukisoftware.com |
| 18:39.12 | underd0g | wrapper | |
| 18:39.14 | underd0g | wrapperp | unable to bind listener to any port in the range 32000 to 32999. (Cannot assign requested address) |
| 18:39.17 | underd0g | wrapper | <-- Wrapper Stopped |
| 18:39.24 | underd0g | srry for spamming |
| 18:39.54 | zdzichu | it's configuration error, you asked it to listen on address not configured on this machined |
| 18:40.05 | underd0g | other thing is anoying too , when I tried to install i2p from a .jar file , I get error |
| 18:40.39 | underd0g | it was working till yesterday and I didn't change anything |
| 18:40.57 | underd0g | regarding that wrapper error |
| 18:41.17 | zdzichu | "When the Wrapper launches a JVM instance, it will open a server socket listening on this port bound to the localhost address." |
| 18:41.27 | zdzichu | you don't have 'localhost' defined in /etc/hosts? |
| 18:41.57 | underd0g | I have to check |
| 18:43.05 | underd0g | I do have it |
| 18:43.13 | underd0g | on 127.0.0.1 |
| 18:43.33 | underd0g | tho I have 'devuan' too |
| 18:44.09 | Juesto | perhaps thats the issue? |
| 18:44.22 | underd0g | hm |
| 18:45.33 | underd0g | on the other machine it's 127.0.0.1 localhost kennel |
| 18:45.48 | underd0g | instead of two lines |
| 18:46.08 | underd0g | but I dunno I'll have to go back to that devuan machine |
| 18:46.32 | Juesto | underd0g: try commenting? |
| 18:48.56 | underd0g | I'll try |
| 18:55.46 | underd0g | nope |
| 18:55.49 | underd0g | no effect |
| 18:56.17 | underd0g | but another thing just showed up |
| 18:56.34 | underd0g | pinging localost gives no packages ? |
| 18:57.39 | underd0g | nor does 127.0.0.1 |
| 18:57.46 | underd0g | what am I missing here ? |
| 18:59.35 | Juesto | underd0g: is lo working ? |
| 19:01.04 | underd0g | owered it off again |
| 19:01.33 | underd0g | I have snapshot of the same machine from couple days ago , I'll give that a shot |
| 19:28.07 | KatolaZ | underd0g: reinstalling is rarely a solution at all... |
| 19:28.41 | underd0g | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:29.06 | underd0g | I wanted to see if i2p stops at some point on snapshot |
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| 19:33.54 | Leander256 | maybe have a look at the list of packages updated since the last time it worked |
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| 19:37.48 | underd0g | I didn't update |
| 19:37.52 | underd0g | that's the point |
| 19:38.07 | KatolaZ | underd0g: has it ever worked before? |
| 19:38.27 | KatolaZ | I mean on the same install |
| 19:38.54 | underd0g | yes |
| 19:39.00 | underd0g | normally |
| 19:39.07 | KatolaZ | and what did you change ? |
| 19:39.17 | underd0g | nothing that I am aware of |
| 19:39.35 | underd0g | hardware clock might be the culpirit |
| 19:39.43 | KatolaZ | anything related with networking? |
| 19:40.06 | underd0g | just added an dns server |
| 19:40.13 | KatolaZ | eh |
| 19:40.22 | KatolaZ | and this is "nothing" ? :D |
| 19:40.31 | underd0g | could wicd be making this ? |
| 19:40.46 | KatolaZ | what you mean |
| 19:40.50 | underd0g | ok , I'll give you the benefit of doubt for that DNS |
| 19:40.55 | KatolaZ | by "I have added a DNS server"? |
| 19:41.02 | underd0g | yeah |
| 19:41.07 | KatolaZ | are you running a DNS server on your machine? |
| 19:41.14 | underd0g | no |
| 19:41.20 | underd0g | I just use opennic dns |
| 19:41.39 | underd0g | so I changed it mannually |
| 19:41.53 | underd0g | added opennic server to my config |
| 19:42.18 | KatolaZ | wait |
| 19:42.39 | KatolaZ | let's start from scratch |
| 19:43.07 | KatolaZ | what happens when you try to start your i2p thing? |
| 19:43.30 | underd0g | it starts as a service |
| 19:43.33 | underd0g | and fails |
| 19:43.56 | underd0g | Running I2P Service... |
| 19:43.57 | underd0g | wrapper | --> Wrapper Started as Console |
| 19:43.57 | underd0g | wrapper | Java Service Wrapper Community Edition 32-bit 3.5.25 |
| 19:43.57 | underd0g | wrapper | Copyright (C) 1999-2014 Tanuki Software, Ltd. All Rights Reserved. |
| 19:43.57 | underd0g | wrapper | http://wrapper.tanukisoftware.com |
| 19:43.57 | underd0g | wrapper | |
| 19:43.59 | underd0g | wrapperp | unable to bind listener to any port in the range 32000 to 32999. (Cannot assign requested address) |
| 19:44.02 | underd0g | wrapper | <-- Wrapper Stopped |
| 19:44.35 | KatolaZ | underd0g: is there anything listening on those ports (e.g., another instance of i2p)? |
| 19:44.52 | underd0g | doubt so |
| 19:45.10 | underd0g | because I have no other instance running |
| 19:45.20 | KatolaZ | netstat -ltn |
| 19:45.45 | underd0g | it will take me couple minutes to boot it up aain , wait |
| 19:46.34 | underd0g | funny story while you wait , I installed devuan in a VM , then cloned it to USB stick |
| 19:46.37 | KatolaZ | a couple of minutes? is it running systemd? :D |
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| 19:47.46 | underd0g | now if I want to run the machine to work on it , I'll have to run it from that stick in a virtualbox , cus I am currently running my primary os on the machine |
| 19:48.32 | underd0g | that's why it takes a couple minutes |
| 19:49.19 | KatolaZ | :) |
| 19:50.10 | underd0g | dog can do some tricks |
| 19:51.35 | underd0g | this is basically the last barrier that holds me from using devuan as my primary os |
| 19:52.23 | KatolaZ | underd0g: if you were using it under debian/ubuntu there is no reason why it should not work in Devuan |
| 19:52.34 | KatolaZ | it will be just a matter of misconfiguration, perhaps |
| 19:53.02 | underd0g | well netstat -tln gives this |
| 19:53.36 | underd0g | tor listening on its port |
| 19:53.43 | KatolaZ | underd0g: but I can't find the i2p package in the Devuan repos... |
| 19:53.43 | underd0g | privoxy on its |
| 19:53.58 | underd0g | there's a i2p repo for debian |
| 19:54.06 | underd0g | added it , it worked |
| 19:55.10 | underd0g | so on 127.0.0.1 I have tor , privoxy and smtp |
| 19:55.35 | KatolaZ | I am reading at the back of this page: |
| 19:55.42 | KatolaZ | https://geti2p.net/en/download/debian |
| 19:55.53 | KatolaZ | where it says "Post-install work" |
| 19:56.10 | KatolaZ | which mode are you using to start i2p? |
| 19:56.17 | underd0g | service |
| 19:56.32 | KatolaZ | wait |
| 19:56.37 | KatolaZ | stop the service |
| 19:56.45 | KatolaZ | and try to run it as a script first |
| 19:57.01 | KatolaZ | let's see if the problem is in the Debian package or in your network config |
| 19:57.57 | underd0g | same thing |
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| 19:58.42 | underd0g | I have something on my :::* on port 36455 |
| 19:59.01 | KatolaZ | underd0g: have you seen this page: |
| 19:59.06 | KatolaZ | http://www.dhatricworkspace.com/2013/08/resolveunable-to-bind-listener-to-any.html |
| 19:59.09 | KatolaZ | ? |
| 19:59.16 | KatolaZ | (first google result with your error message) |
| 19:59.43 | KatolaZ | it seems that the guy solved the issue by using "wrapper.backend.type=PIPE" |
| 19:59.54 | underd0g | I don't have lo interface |
| 20:00.04 | underd0g | think that might be it ? |
| 20:00.15 | KatolaZ | uh? |
| 20:00.23 | KatolaZ | how comes you don't have a loopback interface??? |
| 20:00.33 | underd0g | dunno |
| 20:00.39 | underd0g | never seen that |
| 20:00.46 | KatolaZ | ifconfig |
| 20:00.50 | KatolaZ | what does it say? |
| 20:00.51 | underd0g | how could I fuck that up |
| 20:00.57 | underd0g | just eth0 |
| 20:01.16 | KatolaZ | wait |
| 20:01.32 | KatolaZ | what do you have in /etc/network/interfaces ? |
| 20:01.41 | KatolaZ | there should be something like |
| 20:01.49 | KatolaZ | auto lo |
| 20:01.49 | KatolaZ | iface lo inet loopback |
| 20:01.57 | KatolaZ | do you have that? |
| 20:02.07 | underd0g | man you were right |
| 20:02.17 | KatolaZ | me? |
| 20:02.30 | underd0g | I just found that DNS server in my interfaces |
| 20:02.39 | KatolaZ | uh? |
| 20:02.49 | KatolaZ | wait |
| 20:02.52 | KatolaZ | one thing at a time |
| 20:02.58 | KatolaZ | do you have those two lines in interfaces? |
| 20:03.01 | underd0g | so , intefaces are ok |
| 20:03.05 | underd0g | lo is there |
| 20:03.07 | KatolaZ | ok |
| 20:03.21 | underd0g | inet loopback |
| 20:03.22 | KatolaZ | can you ping localhost? |
| 20:03.36 | underd0g | yeah |
| 20:03.40 | KatolaZ | ok |
| 20:03.46 | KatolaZ | try restarting the service now |
| 20:03.47 | underd0g | i did ifconfig lo up |
| 20:03.53 | underd0g | and i2p works |
| 20:03.57 | KatolaZ | ok |
| 20:04.01 | underd0g | but wait a sec |
| 20:04.18 | underd0g | I have DNS server inside the interfaces file |
| 20:04.18 | KatolaZ | you should put "auto lo" |
| 20:04.26 | KatolaZ | that's another problem |
| 20:04.33 | KatolaZ | which might not be a problem at all |
| 20:04.35 | KatolaZ | :) |
| 20:04.38 | Juesto | yeah, by default thats set |
| 20:04.39 | KatolaZ | is it working now? |
| 20:04.42 | underd0g | it is auto lo |
| 20:04.47 | KatolaZ | ok |
| 20:04.55 | KatolaZ | what happens if you give |
| 20:05.01 | Juesto | i supposed |
| 20:05.07 | KatolaZ | # /etc/init.d/networking restart |
| 20:05.08 | KatolaZ | ? |
| 20:05.10 | underd0g | but it didn't come up untill i bought it up |
| 20:05.20 | KatolaZ | underd0g: ^^^ |
| 20:05.37 | Juesto | check /etc/networks/interfaces ..? |
| 20:05.46 | Juesto | auto lo should be already there |
| 20:05.54 | KatolaZ | Juesto: we are actually in the middle of it :) |
| 20:05.54 | underd0g | it spits an error |
| 20:05.56 | Juesto | by default |
| 20:06.00 | KatolaZ | ok underd0g |
| 20:06.00 | Juesto | oh:) |
| 20:06.06 | KatolaZ | remove the damn DNS from interface |
| 20:06.12 | KatolaZ | :) |
| 20:06.17 | KatolaZ | just comment that line |
| 20:06.17 | underd0g | that much I figured :D |
| 20:06.26 | KatolaZ | and retry restarting networking |
| 20:06.57 | underd0g | works |
| 20:07.04 | KatolaZ | ok |
| 20:07.14 | underd0g | all works |
| 20:07.34 | underd0g | much appreciated |
| 20:07.38 | KatolaZ | great |
| 20:07.50 | underd0g | I should keep a log |
| 20:07.55 | underd0g | of things I do |
| 20:08.15 | KatolaZ | :) |
| 20:08.17 | Hestben | underd0g: I have started to keep a log on things I do |
| 20:08.27 | Hestben | and for files in etc, use etc-keeper |
| 20:08.34 | underd0g | I would never remember that |
| 20:08.59 | underd0g | I wanted to have opennic |
| 20:09.04 | KatolaZ | now, go put your dns server in /etc/resolv.conf |
| 20:09.10 | Hestben | It will keep a git-log of things happening in etc, and will autocommit when installing things with apt |
| 20:09.44 | underd0g | it is in there |
| 20:10.01 | underd0g | but it gets rewriten when I am on wifi |
| 20:10.13 | underd0g | with dhcp data |
| 20:10.34 | underd0g | that's why I put it in interfaces files in the first place |
| 20:10.45 | KatolaZ | underd0g: chmod +a /etc/resolv.conf |
| 20:10.59 | underd0g | I insert It mannually |
| 20:11.03 | KatolaZ | no need |
| 20:11.06 | KatolaZ | put it there once |
| 20:11.11 | KatolaZ | then set the "append-only" bit |
| 20:11.19 | KatolaZ | with "chmod +a" |
| 20:11.19 | underd0g | aha ok |
| 20:11.22 | KatolaZ | end of story |
| 20:12.06 | underd0g | chmod +a -- invalid mode ? |
| 20:12.25 | underd0g | wtf? |
| 20:12.27 | KatolaZ | sorry |
| 20:12.31 | KatolaZ | chattr +a |
| 20:12.33 | KatolaZ | my fault |
| 20:12.35 | KatolaZ | :) |
| 20:12.43 | underd0g | I am following blindly |
| 20:12.47 | underd0g | not smart |
| 20:12.50 | underd0g | * |
| 20:13.09 | KatolaZ | or better |
| 20:13.09 | underd0g | +a was like +ax less x so I just proceded |
| 20:13.13 | underd0g | blindly |
| 20:13.13 | KatolaZ | chattr +i |
| 20:13.21 | KatolaZ | which makes the file not-modifiable |
| 20:13.41 | KatolaZ | chattr +a allows to open the file in append mode |
| 20:13.46 | underd0g | KatolaZ: I owe you one m8 |
| 20:13.48 | KatolaZ | but not to truncate its length |
| 20:13.56 | KatolaZ | no worries underd0g :) |
| 20:14.02 | KatolaZ | you are welcome |
| 20:15.02 | KatolaZ | so now you can go and use Devuan as your main distro, right? |
| 20:15.03 | KatolaZ | :) |
| 20:15.41 | underd0g | yes |
| 20:15.45 | underd0g | ofc |
| 20:15.51 | underd0g | got to go now |
| 20:15.53 | underd0g | c ya |
| 20:17.01 | KatolaZ | o/ |
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| 20:46.00 | golinux | Juesto: Hi |
| 20:47.00 | golinux | Regarding our conversation last night I wanted to share this: https://igurublog.wordpress.com/2012/11/05/gnome-et-al-rotting-in-threes/ |
| 20:47.18 | golinux | That's in part why I said that gnome has been broken for a long time. |
| 20:47.45 | Juesto | ok |
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| 22:08.59 | underd0g | guys , can I use backports on devuan ? |
| 22:10.02 | golinux | Yes |
| 22:10.36 | golinux | But you can be in a world of hurt if you leave it enabled all the time. |
| 22:10.43 | underd0g | debian or devuan ? |
| 22:10.48 | fsmithred | devuan |
| 22:10.57 | fsmithred | and you need to pin it to a lower priority |
| 22:11.15 | fsmithred | or enable and disable as golinux suggested |
| 22:11.32 | underd0g | i just need ffmpeg |
| 22:11.54 | golinux | I only enable it a few times a year. |
| 22:12.11 | golinux | Yeah that was one of the times |
| 22:13.27 | underd0g | line for the repo ? |
| 22:14.10 | fsmithred | deb http://packages.devuan.org/merged jessie-backports main |
| 22:14.22 | fsmithred | you can add contrib and non-free to that if you want |
| 22:14.38 | golinux | (fsmithred is fast) |
| 22:14.47 | fsmithred | you might also want to |
| 22:14.56 | underd0g | he knows his keyboard :D |
| 22:14.58 | golinux | Wait isn't ffmpeg in dmo? |
| 22:15.06 | fsmithred | always has a terminal open |
| 22:15.09 | golinux | Not backports? |
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| 22:15.15 | fsmithred | yeah, I thihk your're right |
| 22:15.16 | fsmithred | dmo |
| 22:15.32 | underd0g | what's dmo |
| 22:15.47 | fsmithred | it's in backports |
| 22:15.48 | underd0g | don't want to sound stupid , but ... |
| 22:15.52 | fsmithred | deb-multimedia |
| 22:16.28 | golinux | Christian Marillat's repo |
| 22:16.46 | golinux | dmo is not in backports. |
| 22:16.48 | fsmithred | if you use backports, you should put a file in /etc/apt/preferences.d/ that contains |
| 22:16.51 | fsmithred | Package: * |
| 22:16.51 | fsmithred | Pin: release a=jessie-backports |
| 22:16.51 | fsmithred | Pin-Priority: 100 |
| 22:17.10 | fsmithred | I would do the same for deb-multimedia if I had it enabled |
| 22:17.45 | underd0g | how do I call the file ? |
| 22:17.51 | TorC | golinux: I tried that pin-priority last night on my new install, but when I pulled in the newer kernel to fix suspend, X was broken on reboot. I gave up, removed the pin, updated, and all was working. |
| 22:17.57 | fsmithred | you could call it backports |
| 22:18.00 | Juesto | underd0g: doesnt matter |
| 22:18.01 | golinux | deb http://www.deb-multimedia.org/ jessie main |
| 22:18.13 | underd0g | I have contrib and nonfree in my sources.list |
| 22:18.24 | Juesto | TorC: did you put the pin priority correctly? |
| 22:18.52 | Juesto | underd0g: apt_preferences != sources.list |
| 22:19.06 | TorC | Looked exactly like I saw on the Devuan page, and as fsmithred just posted, and yes, in preferences. |
| 22:19.11 | golinux | Actually that's not right it's in the devuan repos. |
| 22:19.11 | Juesto | please read man apt_preferences |
| 22:19.18 | underd0g | I have put backports into the sources.list |
| 22:19.38 | Juesto | underd0g: you dont have to |
| 22:19.39 | underd0g | I'll just disable it after I download ffmpeg |
| 22:19.52 | Juesto | or what are you trying to do |
| 22:19.53 | Juesto | just use the priority |
| 22:20.04 | Juesto | so you avoid an breaking upgrade |
| 22:20.05 | underd0g | I just need ffmpeg |
| 22:20.19 | TorC | Before adding the pin, apt wanted to update ~140 packages, adding it stopped that, and I was able to go to linux-image and update just that. |
| 22:20.21 | Juesto | underd0g: use the priority then and get ffmpeg, no need to remove after |
| 22:20.38 | fsmithred | oh, I see there's no ffmpeg in jessie |
| 22:20.56 | Juesto | ah yes, i had done that mistake and i ended up using priority 1000 to revert :p |
| 22:21.26 | fsmithred | libav-tools is what's available |
| 22:21.43 | fsmithred | in jessie |
| 22:23.04 | underd0g | I just want to reencode some mp4 to mp3 |
| 22:23.06 | TorC | When X was broken, I figured the kernel had some dependency in BP missing that I was too tired to troubleshoot, which is why I gave up and just took in backports. |
| 22:23.36 | TorC | That worked, at least as far as getting a system behaving decently. |
| 22:25.02 | underd0g | fsmithred: did I mention to you I got to install with encrypted /boot ? |
| 22:25.03 | TorC | KatolaZ: jaromil: Re the backlight script, yes, you are right that is where my backlight is controlled, by an integer from [0|1] unusable to 937 (don't ask me why). |
| 22:25.13 | fsmithred | no, you didn't |
| 22:25.23 | fsmithred | you did it manually or with some installer? |
| 22:25.38 | underd0g | manually |
| 22:25.42 | TorC | KatolaZ: If you have the script, I would appreciate the convenience of a known good starting point to work with. |
| 22:26.34 | underd0g | I found an article , it had somem quirks , but I managed to get it done |
| 22:26.45 | fsmithred | echo "$1" > /sys/blah-blah/backlight |
| 22:27.12 | fsmithred | call the script with the number you want as the first and only argument |
| 22:27.23 | underd0g | I installed it ina a VM , later copied it to a USB |
| 22:27.41 | underd0g | now I have my devuan with me at all times |
| 22:27.52 | fsmithred | cool |
| 22:28.28 | fsmithred | I have mine with me most of the time, too, but on a live-usb with persistence |
| 22:28.43 | underd0g | this is a full install |
| 22:28.54 | fsmithred | yeah, you can do upgrades easily |
| 22:29.04 | underd0g | I have another USB with katana |
| 22:29.20 | underd0g | on it I have virtual box portable |
| 22:29.38 | fsmithred | vb-portable?? |
| 22:29.40 | underd0g | so I can run my devuan at work on a win machine |
| 22:29.49 | underd0g | yeah , cool thing |
| 22:30.03 | fsmithred | running it inside vb on windows? |
| 22:30.10 | underd0g | yup |
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| 22:30.20 | fsmithred | they won't let you reboot at work? |
| 22:30.31 | underd0g | I start vm , boot it of my us nad I'm good |
| 22:30.54 | underd0g | that macihine at work can't be turned off |
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| 22:31.13 | underd0g | and I kinda don't want to carry my laptop arround |
| 22:31.55 | underd0g | plus , I feel uber-geek running my OS from two usb's simultaneously |
| 22:32.09 | fsmithred | lol |
| 22:32.41 | underd0g | you got devuan with usb persistence ? based on your live distro ? |
| 22:32.55 | fsmithred | yeah, I make lots of live-usbs |
| 22:33.10 | underd0g | I don't feel that uber-geek anymore |
| 22:33.12 | underd0g | :D |
| 22:33.22 | fsmithred | I don't think I have any pure devuan with persistence, but several versions of refracta on usb with persistence |
| 22:33.35 | fsmithred | and one usb with grub bootloader |
| 22:33.45 | fsmithred | and refracta/wheezy |
| 22:34.25 | underd0g | well you can't have pure devuan , since you're the only one (as far as I know) with live distro |
| 22:34.29 | fsmithred | you have encrypted /boot. That's pretty cool. |
| 22:35.08 | fsmithred | the unofficial live devuan that I made is pure devuan except for my two scripts |
| 22:35.23 | underd0g | aham |
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| 22:36.07 | underd0g | well , the downside of my copying from a VM is that now I have half of the stick unformatted |
| 22:36.33 | underd0g | but I've got lvm , so I'll just expand it |
| 22:36.39 | fsmithred | is the half you're using in a normal partition? |
| 22:36.43 | fsmithred | oh yeah, lvm |
| 22:37.07 | underd0g | I just need to remember how LVM is expanded |
| 22:37.21 | underd0g | you know I'm a sucker for LVM , fsmithred |
| 22:37.22 | fsmithred | or push the linux partition back and put a fat32 in front of it so you can use it to transfer files to windows |
| 22:37.37 | underd0g | I don't use winblows |
| 22:37.38 | fsmithred | expand the container before you expand the filesystem |
| 22:37.55 | underd0g | nope, you cant expand LVM |
| 22:38.21 | fsmithred | pretty sure I've done it |
| 22:38.26 | underd0g | you need new container , and then you add it to the group |
| 22:38.36 | fsmithred | oh, ok |
| 22:38.48 | underd0g | on encrypted lvm it don't work oter way |
| 22:38.54 | underd0g | other* |
| 22:39.11 | underd0g | I didn't have any unencrypted ones |
| 22:40.06 | fsmithred | go for a third usb and make raid |
| 22:40.18 | underd0g | but I do remember that somebody at 2600 facebook once asked about that , and I researched and came to understand that you can't expand fs or container |
| 22:40.41 | underd0g | so I patched up a procedure for him to expand lvm |
| 22:40.44 | fsmithred | man pvresize |
| 22:41.00 | underd0g | hah, now I remebered , I have it in my fb inbox |
| 22:41.14 | underd0g | as I lay'd it out for him |
| 22:41.20 | underd0g | great |
| 22:41.44 | fsmithred | brb |
| 22:42.24 | underd0g | kk |
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