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| 02:29.43 | manchot | I liken Trump's election to the dominance of systemd. I wonder what kind of a marketing moves systemd pushed through to have major distros adopt it. |
| 02:31.03 | manchot | the strategies, psychologies and moves would be worth studying and use against it. |
| 02:31.34 | golinux | These comments would be more suited to #debian-fork |
| 02:31.46 | manchot | ok. |
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| 02:32.05 | golinux | Oops. #debianfork |
| 02:32.31 | manchot | ;-) |
| 02:32.41 | golinux | Senior moment. ;) |
| 02:33.37 | manchot | golinux, you are welcome to reply there |
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| 03:24.04 | golinux | manchot: Thanks for moving over there. Interested in neither politics nor rehashing the systemd debate. |
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| 11:47.04 | AntoFox | o/ |
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| 12:36.23 | rafalcpp | Debian was exploitable (local user to root, trivial exploit) thanks to systemd. https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/CVE-2016-10156 |
| 12:39.11 | rafalcpp | though some people on #debian claim this can not be exploited acutally. I dunno |
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| 12:55.48 | edbarx | Checking whether a network connection (wifi) was established using ifup. if check if dhclient and wpa_supplicant are running and the existence of /run/network/ifstate. Check also for the two daemons' pids. |
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| 13:03.23 | Hestben | rafalcpp: I saw you saying that in #debian as well. Be careful about generally criticizing systemd there, they ban people loosely. |
| 13:03.58 | Hestben | And, on topic. I am pleased to not use systemd right now. |
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| 13:06.17 | Hestben | though, it seems only debian-unstable was affected, because the bug was introduced in a recent (according to debian change rate) version |
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| 13:26.19 | pedropt | anyone could give me an help here |
| 13:26.52 | pedropt | i upgraded wheezy to devuan by changing the repositories and doing everything as it was on git help |
| 13:27.06 | pedropt | however i got a stop on intscripts |
| 13:27.15 | pedropt | initscripts |
| 13:27.49 | pedropt | dpkg-reconfigure does not work there and says package is broken |
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| 13:28.21 | pedropt | things start to broken at this part : |
| 13:28.27 | pedropt | update-rc.d: error: insserv rejected the script header dpkg: error processing initscripts (--configure): subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1 dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of util-linux: util-linux depends on initscripts (>= 2.88dsf-59.2~); however: Package initscripts is not configured yet. |
| 13:28.27 | Hestben | pedropt: Do you have a specific error message? |
| 13:28.40 | Hestben | pedropt: nvm |
| 13:29.38 | pedropt | the bad thing is that if i shutdown or restart server now , then i may not be able to enter again in OS |
| 13:29.45 | rafalcpp | Hestben: about that exploit, it seems less important: it was not shipped in stable debian (nor in stable systemd), and its possible kernel prevented using it to gain root (unsure) |
| 13:30.00 | rafalcpp | thought anyway. I still prefer no systemd ofc :) |
| 13:32.05 | pedropt | this is a dual boot system , and right now i am on linux |
| 13:32.08 | Xenguy | pedropt: I expect there are some folks here who might have useful advice for you, altho you may need to idle here until they are around |
| 13:33.13 | pedropt | also , the repositories webseres should be reconfigured to not drop down connections |
| 13:34.21 | pedropt | Get:1502 http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/merged/ jessie/main libtotem-plparser18 amd64 3.10.3-1 [188 kB] Err http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/merged/ jessie/main libclass-tiny-perl all 1.000-1 Error reading from server. Remote end closed connection [IP: 128.31.0.66 80] |
| 13:35.06 | pedropt | this one and more other 3 packages were not downloaded under dist-upgraded |
| 13:35.34 | pedropt | but when i run the fix missing , then i already had the issue on initscripts |
| 13:35.51 | pedropt | lol , wrong channel |
| 13:36.27 | pedropt | nop , right channel , sorry. I am on web irc interface |
| 13:38.53 | Hestben | pedropt: They were updating the servers and release system just last week. I don't know if they are finished, otherwise it could be that your mirror was just down for maintenance |
| 13:39.14 | Hestben | pedropt: Try downloading the packages again |
| 13:40.28 | Hestben | It may be that it takes some time before you get an answer. But you may fix the problem using a live cd and chrooting into the system, if you have to turn of your computer and the linux system doesn't boot. |
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| 13:42.49 | pace | Hi |
| 13:43.00 | pace | I have an issue with devuan ascii/testing for openssl |
| 13:43.27 | pace | echo "U2FsdGVkX1+YPDpdbZznwjTbVDzArAdG" | openssl enc -d -a -blowfish -pass pass:foobar |
| 13:43.32 | pace | this should give "panda" |
| 13:43.44 | pace | but with ascii/testing it doesn't work |
| 13:44.05 | pace | works on every distrib, even jessie-devuan |
| 13:44.29 | pace | openssl version |
| 13:44.31 | pace | OpenSSL 1.1.0c 10 Nov 2016 |
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| 13:58.48 | pedropt | <Hestben> i already downloaded the packages , however i am unable to install them until i fix this initscripts error |
| 13:59.08 | pedropt | i also had to change some things before doing the dist-upgrade |
| 13:59.46 | pedropt | first of all , my wheezy had gnome-desktop , and by this it have also network-manager |
| 14:00.02 | Hestben | pedropt: hmm, you may need to manually unpack the scripts that are missing |
| 14:00.48 | pedropt | i had to install wicd-gtk to not loose network , and then remove network-manager and network-manager-gnome before i could go on with the dist-upgrade |
| 14:02.37 | underd0g | how did you end up with tose packages ? installing cinnamon ? |
| 14:02.42 | underd0g | or mate ? |
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| 14:12.45 | pedropt | this is a very big paste , and i cut where there was no stuff needed http://pastebin.com/2KwkfhGX |
| 14:19.30 | pedropt | according to the log , (now that i am looking closely) i got problems in these scripts updates : mountkernfs.sh , hostname.sh, mountdevsubfs.sh , checkroot.sh , starts on line 1117 |
| 14:20.07 | DocScrutinizer51 | word of the year: "alternative fact" - alternative fact: the earth is a pancake |
| 14:21.08 | pedropt | witch by default are the most important scripts in the OS , specially the kernel script , the checkroot and the mount devices script |
| 14:21.44 | pedropt | without them running , i dont even get a boot start on the kernel , and hard disks will not be mounted |
| 14:22.07 | DocScrutinizer51 | alternative fact 1 million << 300000 |
| 14:22.55 | DocScrutinizer51 | alternative fact 300000 == 1.5mio |
| 14:27.51 | pedropt | since this may take a while , i will upgrade to systemd debian 8 , and then i will try to go again to devuan configuration from jessie 8 (systemd) -> jessie 8 (non systemd) to see if it works |
| 14:31.25 | Hestben | pedropt: You can pin the sysvinit when upgrading to debian jessie, and you won't be infected |
| 14:31.40 | Hestben | Or at least, be less infected by systemd |
| 14:33.16 | pedropt | eheheh |
| 14:34.17 | pedropt | i will get around this , one way or the other , it just may take some time witch i was trying to get a shortcut here |
| 14:43.24 | pedropt | well , got the error fixed by removing the "mtab" from the header of checkroot.sh file in ./etc/init.d/checkroot.sh |
| 14:43.34 | pedropt | at least now it is going |
| 14:43.55 | pedropt | but to systemd , lets wait for what happens next |
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| 14:58.29 | DocScrutinizer51 | what does checkroot.sh do? (sorry, mobile, no workstation atm) |
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| 15:12.48 | DocScrutinizer51 | nm, found it |
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| 15:22.01 | pedropt | the file system is mounted by fstab , mtab is the same thing but with different configuration , and it looks that initscripts were stuck in that point . |
| 15:22.52 | pedropt | However , i am still watching to where this goes here , and see if in the end every error is fixed and i will reboot the OS if everything looks fine |
| 15:31.33 | pedropt | well , everything went smoothly |
| 15:31.39 | pedropt | no errors |
| 15:32.04 | pedropt | doing the autoclean of packages before going to the next stage |
| 15:35.24 | pedropt | going to reboot , i was on kernel 3.18 and new kernel 4.xx was installed and systemd |
| 15:35.35 | pedropt | ill be back soon |
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| 17:53.52 | Digit | ^ s/witch/which. heh. |
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| 18:46.06 | aitor | pedropt: wich witch are you referring to? |
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| 20:09.07 | DeFender1031 | More reasons I'm glad I'm on devuan: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=systemd-228-root-exploit |
| 20:10.54 | rhy | :) |
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| 23:11.27 | pedropt | hi everyone |
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| 23:31.50 | pedropt | well guys , i must say that was not easy to more from kali wheezy to devuan jessie , specially when the kernel in devuan repository is still 3.16 and i had installed 3.18 on wheezy , and joining to all that a complicated graphic card with proprietary drivers that were giving all sort of errors to install . |
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| 23:38.23 | pedropt | For those that never imagine a kali linux distro working in devuan , here it is a screenshot https://s28.postimg.org/l9a2gf5ql/devuan2.png |
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