IRC log for #devuan on 20170120

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00:13.06syco_hi
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00:22.18mayfrostso
00:22.29mayfrostanybody knows if the odroid image works for c2 model too?
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00:42.03DocScrutinizer05idroid related to devuan?
00:42.11DocScrutinizer05odroid even
00:43.18mayfrostyes, there is an official image for odroid
00:43.46syco_..
00:43.47mayfrostbut as there are several odroid model I am unsure if it works with the c2 version
00:59.56underd0gyou have it ?
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01:20.30aitorhi
01:25.12aitorgolinux, are you still there?
01:27.30aitori uploaded a new video of simple-netaid-gtk, announced in the mailing list:
01:27.32aitorhttp://gnuinos.org/simple-netaid-gtk.mpg
01:29.24aitorsee you tomorrow :)
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04:01.46AlexLikeRocki need  app to control MATE volume, by  bluethoot, sugestion ?
04:02.21spupuserhi
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05:45.38DocScrutinizer05AlexLikeRock: I guess you need something that maps the XF86AudioLowerVolume XF86AudioLowerVolume XF86AudioRaiseVolume to the right action in whatever mixer you use to control the volume. Then you need a BT driver (bluez or sth) that sends the according keysyms when you press the keys on BT gadget
05:46.36AlexLikeRockyes. but, what APP at android , need?
05:46.48AlexLikeRockany sugestion?
05:46.51DocScrutinizer05android?? no idea
05:46.59AlexLikeRocktanks DocScrutinizer05
05:47.38DocScrutinizer05didn't you say "mate"?
05:54.41DocScrutinizer05https://invalidmagic.wordpress.com/2010/07/10/fixing-volume-change-in-linux/ might help
05:54.48DocScrutinizer05NB: 7 years old
05:56.41DocScrutinizer05and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bluetooth_stack#BlueZ
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05:57.49DocScrutinizer05https://invalidmagic.wordpress.com/2010/07/10/fixing-volume-change-in-linux/ might help  NB: 7 years old --- and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bluetooth_stack#BlueZ
06:02.51AlexLikeRockreading...
06:08.56AlexLikeRocki ready  have  bluez
06:09.28AlexLikeRockjust need  client  app
06:14.01DocScrutinizer05http://wstaw.org/m/2017/01/20/plasma-desktopC17764.png  for KDE, no idea what's the recommended mixer for mate
06:15.12DocScrutinizer05you can check BT and Bluez by running "xev" in a X11 terminal (xterm etc) and see what events the BT keys produce
06:16.05DocScrutinizer05when you see sth like http://paste.opensuse.org/88265010 then you just need to config your mixer to listen to those X-events
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06:56.25AlexLikeRocktanks DocScrutinizer05
06:56.29AlexLikeRockbye bye
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07:05.08aitorAlexlikeRock: try with volti
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07:57.03*** topic/#devuan is https://devuan.org/ discussion channel (logged at https://botbot.me/freenode/devuan) - Please take off-topic conversation to #debianfork - /msg chanserv info #devuan - Devuan Forum: https://dev1galaxy.org/ - beta2 is out: http://ur1.ca/q572u
07:57.40Centurion_Dan1o/
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08:26.31aitor\o
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09:08.15parazydfyi, libressl and ca-certificates 20161130.3.28.1 don't trust the tls certificate of files.devuan.org
09:08.42parazydmaybe it could be updated to the same letsencrypt as all the other sites are
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10:03.39mystifiedhey guys i have 500 gig drv,  currently  with two linux osers.  I'm wanting to add a 3rd Os for testing.
10:05.16Centurion_Danparazyd: wasn't hellekin managing that site?
10:05.30Centurion_Danmystified: cool!
10:06.18mystifiedThe prob is only 3  disks can be Primary. the first disk is primary ext4 100mb(not GIG) set as primary
10:07.05mystifiedI forgot the name of this 1st partition.
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10:09.54mystifiedCan this be changed to something other than a primary
10:10.48mystifiedsdd      8:48   0 465.8G  0 disk
10:10.49mystified├─sdd1   8:49   0   100M  0 part
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10:11.06mystifiedsdd1 is set ext4
10:11.33mystifiedsdd3 is linux-swap
10:11.42mystifiedthey are allset as primary
10:12.15mystifiedsdd2 is devuan
10:13.15cyteenYou could change your swap to use a swap file rather than a block devices and then use the primary swap partition (resized to your requirements) for your next install.
10:13.57mystifiedso I would need to add a swap in each partition
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10:15.08cyteenYou would create a swap file and change your /etc/fstab to point to it (for each linux install)
10:16.09Centurion_Danif you use lvm you'd solve the problem or convert to a gpt partition table (up to 128 parts)
10:16.53Centurion_Dancyteen: swapfile on fs is much to slow.
10:18.11mystifiedso I need to start from scratch
10:18.51cyteenI thought I read that much of the performance hit had been removed (relatively recently) but I use block devices for swap, just looking for the quickest work around given the outline given.
10:19.54mystifieddoes sdd1 need to be a primary & ext
10:22.34cyteenIf your starting from scratch as Centurion_Dan says gpt does away with the restrictions of dos partitioning.
10:24.33mystifiedok
10:25.17mystifiedill start  again with gpt.. Thx greatly
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10:33.08Centurion_Dan1mystified: you should be able to convert from dos to gpt using gdisk.
10:33.19hellekinCenturion_Dan: no.
10:34.15Centurion_Danhellekin: hi hellekin!
10:34.26Centurion_Dan:-)
10:34.40Centurion_Danno to what?
10:34.54hellekinCenturion_Dan: I mean, no, I didn't manage files.devuan.org.
10:35.20Centurion_DanOh, Ok. The who did?  Jaromil?
10:35.34Centurion_Dan*then
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10:36.30hellekinIsn't it documented?
10:37.17Centurion_DanProbably.  Jaromil is travelling again so not sure how much help he will be?  I didn't think nextime did.
10:37.27Centurion_Danmanage that service...
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13:28.24clemens3migrated from one debian jessie and two raspbian jessie installations to devuan jessie on each one
13:28.51clemens3the debian lsb_release -a shows now devuan, the raspbian's still show raspbian
13:28.58clemens3here is a quote from lsb_release
13:29.11clemens3Detection of systems using a mix of packages from various distributions or releases is something of a black art; the current heuristic tends to assume that the installa‐
13:29.11clemens3<PROTECTED>
13:29.20clemens3so I guess I shouldn't be concerned
13:29.44clemens3or anything i should or could do?
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13:32.44HestbenOh, is migrating from raspbian jessie to devuan jessie supported?
13:33.20HestbenBecause migrating raspbian wheezy -> raspbian jessie wasn't according to docu, so I reflashed my image when I upgraded mine
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13:35.27parazydclemens3: no concerns necessary. it's just that raspbian patches lsb so that package is "prefered", let's say
13:36.08parazydyou could remove the raspbian repo in apt/sources.list if you wish. it shouldn't break anything i believe
13:38.57clemens3I removed the raspbian reference in sources.list (outcommented), but under /var/lib/apt I still see raspbian files there in addition to the new devuan… when apt-get update there is also still some mentioning of raspian stuff
13:40.00clemens3i came back to debian/linux after dunno, 8-10 years on mac, so debian is what I knew and grabed first… but rosty with the setup etc. now
13:44.30clemens3I tried on the old debian install, there is no mention of it anymore, however repo.mysql.com gets a hit, because I installed mysql with a local deb package.
13:47.58parazyddunno
13:48.08parazydbut it should be fine. i wouldn't worry too much
13:48.21clemens3yeah, no problem, thanks for the infos
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14:26.09WeeazyWeeezy, you're awesome
14:30.01zdzichuand modest
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14:43.02Weeazysuch a great name too. I wish I had a name as good as that.
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14:51.14wulllstWhat is the best way to get an overview of devuan's current develeopment status that is more detailed than "beta2 is out" and "stable release coming sooner or later"?
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16:35.45aitorclemens3: you have also MariaDB
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17:36.04parazydclemens3: Unpacking base-files (8+rpi1) over (8+devuan7)
17:36.14parazydyou can pin the latter package
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18:45.48timelesswonders if this is expected https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/xLn8HEhD/
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19:49.48donutburgeranyone here running docker on devuan?
19:54.38clemens3parazyd: thanks, i will tomorrow look into this pinning/package replacing thing. Indeed base-files is still the raspi package in use in my installation… I also checked the lsb(-release) package, which is already from devuan… ciao, cu later
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20:57.04gnu_srsCenturion-Dan2: (03:28:42 PM) gnu_srs1: Hi, seems like build-rdeps fails not finding Devuan names:
20:57.04gnu_srs(05:09:28 PM) gnu_srs1: Solved by: --distribution jessie --origin Devuan. Maybe the Devuan version of that perl script should s/Debian/Devuan/g to avoid using --origin?
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22:27.18Centurion_Dangnu_srs: can you give me a little more context for that last comment??
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22:53.55gnu_srsbuild-rdeps from devscripts has Debian hardcoded in the file. Replacing debian with Devuan would make the option  --origin Devuan redundant.
22:53.55gnu_srsBTW: I'm now running Devuan on an Acer Aspire laptop: all works fine. I'll submit an installation report as soon as I have fixed the /home disk crash on another box :(
22:55.01gnu_srsCenturion_Dan: If you are still awake, or is it early morning for you now?
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22:59.34KatolaZgnu_srs: what are we talking about?
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23:05.44gnu_srsbuild-rdeps script from devscripts as I wrote above?
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23:34.00Centurion_Dangnu_srs: Ok.  It needs to be added to my todo...
23:35.19Centurion_DanIt's just after mid day on Saturday here.  NZ is at GMT+13 (NZDT).
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