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| 05:03.37 | SuicideJunkie | Anyone here know about motherboard beep codes? I'm getting 2 short, a pause and then 5 short, which doesn't match with anything I've seen before. |
| 05:07.06 | zyliwax | SuicideJunkie: perhaps you've already done so, but you are most likely to find the right answer if you search the web for your particular motherboard's error beeps |
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| 05:32.48 | SuicideJunkie | Well, further testing shows that it isn't even consistent. I guess it was binned legitimately. |
| 05:49.23 | zyliwax | :(! |
| 06:01.18 | SuicideJunkie | I did manage to fix a couple things, but it still isn't usable. |
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| 08:27.14 | Quetzalcoatl | Hi everybody |
| 08:28.24 | Quetzalcoatl | anyone knows how to disable ipv6 permanently on devuan at an arm? |
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| 08:31.09 | muep | I'd just leave it unconfigured in cases where it is not needed |
| 08:32.40 | Quetzalcoatl | how? tried editing the sysctl file |
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| 08:33.21 | Quetzalcoatl | and every boot ipv6 is there |
| 08:34.08 | Quetzalcoatl | have to press sysctl -p again. |
| 08:34.23 | muep | I mean I would just leave as it is by default. |
| 08:34.40 | Quetzalcoatl | uh. |
| 08:35.20 | Quetzalcoatl | what about loving legacy stuff?? :) |
| 08:35.41 | muep | it does not conflict with using ipv4 |
| 08:37.05 | Quetzalcoatl | ok. I'll settle with that one. Thanks. |
| 08:37.56 | muep | especially if you have only link-local ipv6 addresses, programs will not try to use them to reach any of your usual internet destinations |
| 08:38.24 | muep | even if e.g. DNS says that some domain name has an IPv6 address in addition to an IPv4 address |
| 08:40.50 | Quetzalcoatl | ok. actually I think my router supports ipv6, so my computer can get seen everywhere. |
| 08:41.16 | Quetzalcoatl | that's why I was trying to deactivate it. |
| 08:46.42 | Quetzalcoatl | but you're right. |
| 08:47.18 | muep | were you getting non-link-local addresses? |
| 08:53.57 | Quetzalcoatl | nope. as you said, only link-local. |
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| 10:42.03 | Se7en | Hello. I had a question regusrding migration from my current distribution to yours |
| 10:42.18 | Se7en | Now, I wanted to ue my pre-existing /home partition |
| 10:42.28 | Se7en | But it is encrypted with CryptoLuks |
| 10:42.36 | Se7en | The HDD is also fully encrypted with a seprate key |
| 10:43.01 | Se7en | Would I be able to transition smootly and keep my /home partition on the current system? |
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| 10:48.58 | jaromil | Se7en: so far all people have reported success in these situations |
| 10:49.03 | jaromil | I have had one system like that and no problem |
| 10:49.10 | aitor | golinux: are you working on the gtk theme? |
| 10:49.23 | jaromil | but this is not a warranty it will work, just mentioning the experiences so far |
| 10:49.30 | jaromil | so please do keep backups |
| 10:50.08 | Se7en | Ok |
| 10:50.11 | Se7en | Thank you |
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| 10:52.15 | aitor | ups, golinux is not available for now |
| 10:56.01 | aitor | see you in an hour |
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| 11:02.23 | edbarx | To whom it may concern: presently, I am adding more functions to simple-netaid's backend. These include reading/saving security settings for wifi connections, support for open unsecured connections, and visual enhancements to the GUI. Some backend functions will be added functionality with the requirement of an added parameter to represent security settings. |
| 11:58.49 | AntoFox | o/ |
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| 14:05.49 | aitor | edbarx: this sounds interesting |
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| 15:24.34 | aitor | hi golinux |
| 15:27.49 | golinux | hi aitor! |
| 15:28.17 | golinux | How do I get to jessie-proposed repo? |
| 15:29.16 | aitor | the jessie proposed repo? |
| 15:31.54 | golinux | Yes |
| 15:32.17 | golinux | (didn't I say that?) |
| 15:32.54 | aitor | are you referring to some concrete new packages like desktop-base, recently mentioned by dan? |
| 15:33.08 | aitor | still not available in the official repo? |
| 15:35.06 | aitor | i've been working this weekend in a gtk purpy theme |
| 15:37.46 | aitor | i would like to upload some screenshots comparing it with devuan's in some special cases like synaptic, pdfchain, inkscape (some icons are missing in inskcape with several gtk themes) |
| 15:40.13 | aitor | i mentioned pdfchain because of the appearance of the notebooks in gtk3 |
| 15:41.28 | golinux | Yes, I need to test desktop-base here but can't find it. |
| 15:41.36 | aitor | and the appearance of synaptic should be also tested with a higher version of gtk (i.e. in ascii) |
| 15:41.54 | golinux | And did you see this note I left for you yesterday? |
| 15:42.00 | golinux | aitor: Thanks. But there is already a purpy theme for slim that will be in the RC: https://git.devuan.org/hellekin/slim/tree/suites/jessie/debian/devuan-curve :) |
| 15:42.23 | aitor | desktop base only contains wallpapers, isn't it? |
| 15:42.42 | aitor | yes, golinux, i saw |
| 15:45.48 | golinux | I'm not sure what all Dan has put where. But the panel will now be styled properly as well as other theming including slim. |
| 15:46.55 | aitor | there were a lot of layers in the inputbox blurring the borders in slim |
| 15:47.36 | aitor | very detailed |
| 15:48.32 | aitor | the style of the desktop is defined in "skeleton" |
| 15:49.11 | aitor | etc/skel |
| 15:51.22 | aitor | i would not use a purpy colour for the panel, and fsmithred also thinks so |
| 15:58.08 | golinux | I won't know what Dan finally decided until I can get to the files . . . |
| 15:58.21 | aitor | i'm reading the latest change on vdev, by ralph: |
| 15:58.22 | aitor | https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=103 |
| 15:59.21 | golinux | Yes, interesting stuff. Even though I don't understand the details, only the broadstrokes . . . |
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| 16:24.13 | fsmithred | golinux, you need to add jessie-proposed to sources to get desktop-base |
| 16:26.57 | golinux | I di. UI think I have it wrong |
| 16:27.02 | golinux | did |
| 16:27.19 | fsmithred | hang on, and I'll see if I can get it. I'm not at home now. |
| 16:27.45 | fsmithred | I think you just replace jessie with jessie-proposed, similar to jessie-backports |
| 16:28.23 | golinux | deb http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/merged/ jessie-proposed main |
| 16:28.48 | aitor | yes i'm doing it: |
| 16:28.49 | aitor | deb http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/merged jessie-proposed-updates main |
| 16:29.07 | fsmithred | deb http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/devuan jessie-proposed main contrib non-free |
| 16:30.15 | golinux | Ah. Makes sense since it's not in the main repos yet. Thanks. :) |
| 16:30.21 | fsmithred | 1:0.105~2.gbp26bfa1 0 |
| 16:30.39 | fsmithred | that's higher than the version in the main repo |
| 16:31.53 | aitor | 1:0.103 |
| 16:31.56 | fsmithred | what's the difference between /merged and /devuan? |
| 16:32.19 | golinux | merged is the main repos. |
| 16:32.25 | fsmithred | aitor, are you seeing the 105 version in jessie-proposed? |
| 16:32.37 | aitor | 103 |
| 16:32.56 | aitor | sorry, i rectify |
| 16:33.12 | fsmithred | you do see 105? |
| 16:33.17 | aitor | i added: |
| 16:33.20 | aitor | deb http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/merged jessie-proposed-updates main |
| 16:33.28 | golinux | I'm seeing 1:0.103 |
| 16:33.40 | fsmithred | change "merged" to "devuan" |
| 16:33.49 | aitor | but i didn't add deb-src |
| 16:34.00 | fsmithred | neither did I (no src line here) |
| 16:34.06 | aitor | and i only downloaded the sources..., i'll try again |
| 16:34.30 | golinux | So do I need to add -updates? |
| 16:34.42 | fsmithred | I don't have -updates |
| 16:34.52 | fsmithred | pretty sure I got my line directly from Dan |
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| 16:35.18 | fsmithred | brb |
| 16:35.24 | aitor | the same version again. 1:0.103 |
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| 16:35.55 | golinux | Ah I do have 1:0.105~2.gbp26bfa1 0 But without the 0 at the end |
| 16:36.12 | golinux | Upgrading now. No -updates needed. |
| 16:36.18 | aitor | i have both: jessie-updates and jessie-proposed-updates |
| 16:36.49 | golinux | Drop the -updates and change /merged to /devuan |
| 16:38.51 | golinux | Downloading now. Then I'll need to switch users. |
| 16:39.12 | golinux | Oh no! E: xfce4-settings: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 2 |
| 16:39.32 | golinux | What does that mean? |
| 16:39.57 | golinux | Centurion_Dan: ^^^ |
| 16:41.08 | aitor | i installed it without issues |
| 16:41.11 | golinux | Centurion_Dan: Will email you the log. |
| 16:41.38 | aitor | are you been using backports? |
| 16:42.07 | golinux | Not atm |
| 16:42.18 | golinux | Nor dmo |
| 16:42.52 | aitor | have you been, i meant :) |
| 16:42.57 | fsmithred | FWIW, I pinned jessie-proposed to a lower priority just to be safe |
| 16:43.53 | golinux | aitor: Yes have a few pkgs from bpo/. Some unintentional. |
| 16:44.36 | golinux | Where's the best place to post the error msg? |
| 16:44.58 | fsmithred | paste.debian.org is good |
| 16:45.37 | fsmithred | oops! .net not .org |
| 16:48.13 | aitor | golinux, fsmithred: brb :) |
| 16:49.11 | golinux | paste.debian.net/907688 |
| 16:50.55 | aitor | golinux: you are installing from backports: |
| 16:50.56 | aitor | xfce4-settings (4.10.1-2+devuan1.1~1.gbp4cf37d) |
| 16:51.31 | aitor | no, not backports: gbp means git-buildpackages |
| 16:51.50 | aitor | from ceres? |
| 16:52.11 | golinux | From 'proposed' |
| 16:52.36 | fsmithred | 4.10.1-2+devuan1.1~1.gbp4cf37d 0 |
| 16:52.36 | fsmithred | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:53.20 | golinux | Ah. Looks like he didn't build i386 |
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| 16:56.59 | fsmithred | 1:0.105~2.gbp26bfa1 0 |
| 16:56.59 | fsmithred | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:57.23 | fsmithred | ^^^ apt-cache policy desktop-base |
| 16:57.54 | golinux | Thanks fsmithred. I could probably have figured that out if I'd had time to really look at the log. |
| 16:58.04 | aitor | see you later, need to go |
| 16:58.12 | golinux | Bye aitor |
| 16:58.16 | fsmithred | bye |
| 16:58.31 | aitor | fsmithred, golinux: i'll try to finish my gtk theme today and share with you |
| 16:58.38 | aitor | bye |
| 16:58.42 | golinux | Hope he can build those pkgs today |
| 16:59.03 | fsmithred | it's there |
| 16:59.17 | fsmithred | apt-get -t jessie-proposed install desktop-base |
| 17:00.01 | golinux | You're gonna make me open a terminal! |
| 17:00.45 | golinux | desktop-base is already the newest version. |
| 17:02.00 | golinux | 1 not fully installed or removed. |
| 17:02.24 | golinux | Setting up xfce4-settings (4.10.1-2+devuan1.1~1.gbp4cf37d) ... |
| 17:02.25 | golinux | update-alternatives: error: alternative path /etc/xdg/xfce4-original doesn't exist |
| 17:02.25 | golinux | dpkg: error processing package xfce4-settings (--configure): |
| 17:02.25 | golinux | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:02.25 | golinux | Errors were encountered while processing: |
| 17:02.25 | golinux | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:02.27 | golinux | E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) |
| 17:02.49 | fsmithred | I just installed it on i386 here with no errors |
| 17:10.53 | fsmithred | dpkg -l |grep bpo |
| 17:11.22 | fsmithred | and ignore libpoppler and libpolkit and similar |
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| 17:12.30 | golinux | I'll paste it |
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| 17:15.29 | fsmithred | ok. For future reference, this one is better: |
| 17:15.32 | fsmithred | dpkg -l |awk '$3 ~ /bpo/ { print $0 }' |
| 17:18.45 | golinux | paste.debian.net/907697 |
| 17:21.54 | golinux | Want me to paste that one too? |
| 17:22.40 | fsmithred | no |
| 17:22.45 | fsmithred | I can see it's a mess |
| 17:23.13 | fsmithred | I don't know if anything in there would affect desktop-base |
| 17:23.18 | fsmithred | maybe xorg?> |
| 17:24.43 | fsmithred | Dan will probably see something - he was just working on xfce4-settings |
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| 17:25.41 | underd0g | hi people |
| 17:25.49 | underd0g | anybody home ? |
| 17:25.51 | fsmithred | maybe show him the output from the awk line, so it only shows stuff from bpo |
| 17:25.56 | fsmithred | yeah, we're here |
| 17:25.57 | fsmithred | hi |
| 17:26.00 | underd0g | hi |
| 17:26.12 | underd0g | a quick question , please don't flame me |
| 17:26.24 | underd0g | I'm running LMDE2 |
| 17:26.35 | fsmithred | and sometimes you might come here and it will seem like nobody is around, but if you ask, you'll get an answer, maybe minutes or hours later |
| 17:26.38 | underd0g | without systemd |
| 17:26.52 | fsmithred | that's based on wheezy or jessie? |
| 17:27.00 | underd0g | do you think I could swap devuan repos ? jessie |
| 17:27.11 | fsmithred | yes and no |
| 17:27.18 | fsmithred | what desktop environment? |
| 17:27.24 | underd0g | lxde |
| 17:27.46 | fsmithred | that might work, but there might be some evil gnome stuff that gets in the way |
| 17:27.56 | underd0g | I was thinking clean install , it's base is somwhere mid 2015 |
| 17:28.01 | fsmithred | I don't know if anyone has reported on that situation |
| 17:28.13 | fsmithred | welcome to jessie |
| 17:28.15 | fsmithred | lol |
| 17:28.17 | underd0g | here's the thing , it has full disk encryption |
| 17:28.47 | fsmithred | did you just post about this on dev1galaxy.org? |
| 17:28.56 | underd0g | I'd go with clean devuan beta , but IDK if I can get it to encrypt /boot as well |
| 17:28.57 | fsmithred | someone asked similar |
| 17:29.11 | fsmithred | no, yhou can't encrypt /boot |
| 17:29.15 | underd0g | anyone tried to do that ? |
| 17:29.32 | underd0g | that's the thing , LMDE has /boot encrypted |
| 17:29.45 | fsmithred | so how do you boot it? |
| 17:30.06 | underd0g | it asks you for luks passwd before loading grub menu |
| 17:30.16 | fsmithred | wow |
| 17:30.21 | fsmithred | never done it that way |
| 17:30.22 | underd0g | there's a script for lmde |
| 17:31.18 | fsmithred | no idea if their script would work on devuan |
| 17:31.18 | underd0g | I am not versed enough to try to hack the script for devuan , I think script is more mint based , than debian |
| 17:31.49 | underd0g | script itself , I doubt , so that's why I'm asking the repo question |
| 17:32.07 | underd0g | I am prepared to iron out the quirks in the os itself |
| 17:32.10 | fsmithred | it's possible to put all of /boot on a usb stick and keep it in your pocket when you're not using it to boot |
| 17:32.33 | underd0g | I know I am not taking the smartest route here |
| 17:32.36 | fsmithred | is there a place where this script is posted? |
| 17:32.45 | underd0g | it's on github |
| 17:32.48 | underd0g | just a sec |
| 17:34.11 | underd0g | http://j.mp/lmdescrypt |
| 17:35.14 | underd0g | I'm satisfied with LMDE , for now . but I don't expect it to keep v-style init for much longer |
| 17:35.42 | underd0g | if I don't manage it , I'll go with usb /boot , that's for sure |
| 17:37.10 | underd0g | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:40.20 | golinux | Centurion_Dan: Better list of bpo pkgs: paste.debian.net/907701 |
| 17:42.00 | golinux | Asper fsmithred's suggestion. |
| 17:44.13 | fsmithred | underd0g, I think it would take me more than a few hours to sort out this script. |
| 17:44.28 | underd0g | yup |
| 17:44.45 | underd0g | it's based on live cd , for starters |
| 17:44.45 | fsmithred | might do better to look up how to encrypt /boot using cryptsetup |
| 17:45.07 | fsmithred | I maintain a live-cd installer, but I know my own a lot better |
| 17:45.19 | fsmithred | but it doesn't support encrypted /boot |
| 17:45.23 | fsmithred | just / and /home |
| 17:45.30 | underd0g | i know |
| 17:45.30 | fsmithred | and not lvm |
| 17:45.32 | fsmithred | ok |
| 17:46.00 | underd0g | i kinda like lvm |
| 17:46.11 | underd0g | for various reasons |
| 17:46.30 | fsmithred | another way to do it is to use a keyfile instead of a passphrase, and keep the keyfile on usb |
| 17:46.40 | underd0g | but devuan will evolve anyways |
| 17:46.52 | fsmithred | regular devuan isos do support lvm |
| 17:47.12 | fsmithred | I just never incorporated it into refractainstaller |
| 17:47.20 | fsmithred | I'm not fond of lvm |
| 17:47.26 | underd0g | why |
| 17:47.29 | fsmithred | but I do understand its utility |
| 17:47.45 | fsmithred | extra layer of complexity just so you can change partition sizes |
| 17:47.55 | fsmithred | get the sizes right to start with, and you don't need it |
| 17:48.15 | fsmithred | and if you have several volumes to unlock, put keyfiles in the encrypted /root |
| 17:48.24 | fsmithred | so only have to enter one passphrase |
| 17:49.03 | underd0g | makes sense |
| 17:49.15 | fsmithred | have you ever re-sized a volume? |
| 17:49.23 | underd0g | yes |
| 17:49.36 | fsmithred | me too, and I did not like it one bit. |
| 17:49.52 | underd0g | had cold feet |
| 17:49.57 | fsmithred | lol, yeah |
| 17:50.03 | underd0g | but it went wel |
| 17:50.10 | fsmithred | doing it on a test system first would have made it better |
| 17:50.11 | underd0g | surprisingly |
| 17:50.16 | fsmithred | same here |
| 17:50.33 | underd0g | i did it on test server |
| 17:50.48 | underd0g | idk if i'd do it in production |
| 17:51.10 | fsmithred | brb |
| 17:51.22 | underd0g | as you said , risky buisiness |
| 17:56.29 | fsmithred | you read the guide for upgrading from Jessie to jessie? |
| 18:00.51 | underd0g | nope |
| 18:00.57 | underd0g | link ? |
| 18:01.01 | underd0g | ty |
| 18:06.57 | fsmithred | hang on, I'm not sure where it is |
| 18:07.45 | underd0g | tried googling , but google is not fond of devuan |
| 18:07.58 | underd0g | it's all debian for the big brother |
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| 18:08.29 | underd0g | man I wish d-d-go would catch up with them finally |
| 18:10.04 | fsmithred | I can't find it right now - I think it's at git.devuan.org or talk.devuan.org, and my passwords are not saved in this laptop (not at home now) |
| 18:11.32 | underd0g | yeah , I found those |
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| 18:12.39 | underd0g | good one , I'll try it on my test install of lmde and report back |
| 18:13.00 | fsmithred | thanks. reports help everyone. |
| 18:16.00 | underd0g | well , we will be "stuck" with devuan for a long time , I guess if we want to see it last , we have to help |
| 18:16.25 | underd0g | I've seen the red hat evil coming 4,5 years ago |
| 18:16.54 | underd0g | I still didn't believe it will break the linux world |
| 18:18.02 | underd0g | had devuan not come along , I'd be sitting in BSD's irc now trying to get along with those guys and hoping it wouldn't hurt much to become one of them |
| 18:18.05 | underd0g | ./ |
| 18:18.29 | fsmithred | ouch |
| 18:18.32 | fsmithred | I gotta go |
| 18:18.34 | fsmithred | bbl |
| 18:18.36 | fsmithred | good luck |
| 18:18.49 | golinux | underd0g: https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=20 for migration |
| 18:20.07 | golinux | Also https://git.devuan.org/dev1fanboy/Upgrade-Install-Devuan/wikis/home |
| 18:33.25 | underd0g | thx go |
| 18:33.37 | underd0g | will give it a shot |
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