| 00:01.24 | KatolaZ | same over here Centurion_Dan :) |
| 00:01.56 | KatolaZ | The only time I had problems with that was when I dist-upgraded to Debian Jessie testing |
| 00:02.08 | KatolaZ | there is were the nightmare began |
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| 01:55.21 | mystified | Hi Guys. |
| 01:55.26 | mystified | no sound |
| 01:55.36 | mystified | from the install |
| 01:55.44 | mystified | I'm using xfce |
| 01:56.15 | mystified | What is the default audio pkg |
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| 10:05.32 | armin | i must say i'm impressed how good this kde5 on my devuan laptop at work runs. |
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| 12:16.01 | Digitteknohippie | some day... i may try kde5, see if it is impressive or a painful joke like kde4 felt like. |
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| 12:55.45 | thessy | posted an issue to git.devuan.org. unfortunately to the wrong project |
| 12:56.26 | thessy | https://git.devuan.org/devuan/devuan-repository-masters/issues/2 |
| 12:57.12 | thessy | I found no way to move it to devuan-project |
| 12:57.37 | thessy | what to do? |
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| 13:17.31 | jaromil | hi! thanks. copy / close / reopen? |
| 13:18.20 | jaromil | also see: https://git.devuan.org/devuan-packages/samba/issues/1 |
| 13:19.07 | jaromil | this is caused by the way the package is masked in amprolla and AFAIK amprolla2 will address this issue |
| 13:21.06 | thessy | ok i will close it |
| 13:22.13 | thessy | when will amprolla2 arrive? |
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| 13:40.00 | thessy | https://git.devuan.org/devuan-packages/samba/issues/2 |
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| 14:00.30 | alk` | hi |
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| 14:48.57 | edbarx | Hi, I am working on simple-netaid to enable it to handle OPEN (free) wireless connections. I will try to modify the GUI frontend and backend to allow for this. I will try to do this in a way to cause the least of disruptions to the existing working code. |
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| 15:01.08 | edbarx | Using green essid listing = OPEN, black = normal encrypted. I will shut up, don't bother anyone. No need of telling more. |
| 15:01.44 | golinux | edbarx: Go work your magic! |
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| 15:23.26 | djph | might want to add in a colourblind option too (yellow and blue?) for reasons |
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| 17:24.53 | Fervi | we need to fork dbus-user-session |
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| 17:56.46 | Centurion_Dan | Fervi: no, we build dbus to not provide dbus-user-session and use dbus-x11 instead |
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| 18:07.52 | Fervi | Centurion_Dan; i installed Devuan in VM and xfce4 required dbus-user-session (i think) |
| 18:08.11 | Fervi | but on my PC i don't have this package and Xfce4 works perfectly :D |
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| 18:09.01 | Fervi | https://packages.debian.org/stretch/xfconf |
| 18:09.08 | Fervi | Xfconf require it |
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| 18:23.12 | muep | does xfce require also a working xfconf? |
| 18:28.47 | Fervi | yep (it is dependency) |
| 18:29.37 | Fervi | but i don't have dbus-session-bus and xfce4 working |
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| 18:29.44 | Fervi | not sure why :D |
| 18:32.23 | Centurion_Dan | the dependency is for dbus-user-session which is a virtual-package which is provided by either dbus-user-session or dbus-x11 |
| 18:33.06 | wulllst | when i access https://wiki.friendsofdevuan.org, i get the message: "The certificate is only valid for the following names: *.gridhost.co.uk, gridhost.co.uk \n Error code: SSL_ERROR_BAD_CERT_DOMAIN" |
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| 18:34.00 | wulllst | now, i could accept that certificate, but would have to verfiy the fingerprint before that. |
| 18:35.44 | wulllst | so, if anyone here is working in friedsofdevuan.org, could you post the fingerprints of that certificate on the website? maybe there are other solutions, too. |
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| 18:51.55 | Fervi | friends :P |
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| 18:53.57 | golinux | wulllst: Will pass on that info shortly. |
| 18:54.55 | wulllst | golinux: ok, thanks. |
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| 22:51.08 | gavenkoa | Hi! There are no instructions for getting package PUB KEY on http://devuan.org (( |
| 22:53.29 | Fervi | sudo apt-get install devuan-keyring |
| 22:53.38 | Fervi | then sudo apt-get update |
| 22:54.39 | gavenkoa | there are no any packages on https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=devuan-keyring |
| 22:54.56 | gavenkoa | So I do wget https://devuan.org/os/keyring/repository@devuan.org.asc | sudo apt-key add - |
| 22:55.09 | gavenkoa | like that |
| 22:55.23 | Fervi | so you want to migrate from debian to devuan? |
| 22:55.33 | gavenkoa | yea )) |
| 22:57.33 | gavenkoa | I am concerning about getting key safely and clear instruction on http://devuan.org or "devuan-keyring" in Debian repository could make life easier... |
| 23:00.32 | DocScrutinizer05 | I guess finding devuan-keyring on debian repos would be a really weird thing ;-) |
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| 23:01.32 | Fervi | ubuntu-keyring is in debian :P |
| 23:01.45 | DocScrutinizer05 | well... |
| 23:02.47 | DocScrutinizer05 | actually they ought provide devuan-keyring, but aiui debian devels are not exactly friends of devuan |
| 23:02.56 | Fervi | yep |
| 23:02.57 | Fervi | :/ |
| 23:03.10 | DocScrutinizer05 | they rather take offense from its mere existence |
| 23:03.27 | Fervi | One man create GNU, One man create Linux, One man destroy Linux |
| 23:03.28 | DocScrutinizer05 | though they should be happy about it |
| 23:03.45 | golinux | gavenkoa: https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=20 instructions for migration |
| 23:03.50 | jaromil | actually not. most debian developers we had personal contact so far are very appreciative of Devuan and are considering of joining |
| 23:04.08 | jaromil | that's my experience, that of alberto and nextime afaik |
| 23:04.58 | jaromil | as usual, bad governance never means all citizens are bad ;^) |
| 23:05.19 | gavenkoa | Is it possible to add link to https://devuan.org/os/keyring/ page to https://devuan.org/#packages section? |
| 23:07.41 | gavenkoa | Is "apt-get purge systemd-shim libsystemd0" step significant? |
| 23:08.36 | jaromil | ic os/keyring cries for an update |
| 23:08.51 | jaromil | we also have a new key used to sign the cd/dvd images |
| 23:12.43 | gavenkoa | I live with sysv until gvfs (for evince) requires systemd, so I've decided to try Devuan because I've heard several positive feedbacks on debian-russian@lists |
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| 23:14.37 | Fervi | The problem with systemd is that it is like a virus (like Pulseaudio your time, do not know how right now). What can he do? And then it turns out that, for example. 5% of your programs requires systemd do not know why. |
| 23:20.23 | fsmithred | gavenkoa, if you get rid of libsystemd0, you will lose gvfs |
| 23:20.42 | fsmithred | not that it's a big loss |
| 23:21.04 | fsmithred | instead of evince, you could use atril, which is the mate equivalent of evince |
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| 23:22.36 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~#devuan migrate instructions is https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=20 |
| 23:22.43 | infobot | DocScrutinizer05: okay |
| 23:22.53 | DocScrutinizer05 | asleep? |
| 23:23.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~botsnack |
| 23:23.05 | infobot | DocScrutinizer05: :) |
| 23:23.28 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~migrate instructions |
| 23:23.28 | infobot | rumour has it, migrate instructions is https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=20 |
| 23:23.43 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~listkeys #devuan |
| 23:24.39 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~literal attentionchar |
| 23:24.39 | infobot | "#devuan attentionchar" is "<reply>infobot's attentionchar in #devuan is "!"" |
| 23:24.55 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~forget #devuan attentionchar |
| 23:24.56 | infobot | i forgot #devuan attentionchar, DocScrutinizer05 |
| 23:27.24 | DocScrutinizer05 | pukes a little in general direction of gvfs |
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| 23:33.41 | gavenkoa | atril is nice package. "gvfs" is required for evince in order to save last displaying location. atril have this out of the box )) Thanks for suggestion! |
| 23:34.03 | fsmithred | yw |
| 23:34.44 | jaromil | has alias evince='atril' |
| 23:35.25 | jaromil | i think i also discovered it thanks to you fsmithred |
| 23:35.49 | fsmithred | and I don't remember who told me about it |
| 23:35.58 | fsmithred | someone at refracta forum |
| 23:36.26 | KatolaZ | gavenkoa: have you tried zathura? |
| 23:36.38 | KatolaZ | it's a bit of a resource hog, in comparison to xpdf |
| 23:36.47 | KatolaZ | but still quite light compared to evince |
| 23:37.05 | gavenkoa | no |
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| 23:44.09 | AntoFox | I would recommend also xviewer |
| 23:45.59 | gavenkoa | zathura is also capable to work with PDF/DJVU and save last document location but a bit "old fashioned" / minimal |
| 23:48.35 | fsmithred | AntoFox, I've been hoping to run into you |
| 23:48.54 | fsmithred | I made eudev packages from your git repo |
| 23:49.00 | fsmithred | they work |
| 23:49.17 | fsmithred | but then I tried libgudev, and I'm getting errors |
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| 23:55.02 | AntoFox | my git? |
| 23:55.12 | fsmithred | yes |
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