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01:08.21 | rue_house | oh is that starting already? |
01:08.31 | rue_house | I'm another 7 hours away |
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01:56.56 | mystified | hi just installed Devuan |
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02:23.28 | mystified | Hi |
02:23.52 | mystified | just installed Devuan xfce |
02:24.41 | golinux | mystified: Congrats! |
02:24.46 | mystified | attempting install of nvidia-34 |
02:24.50 | mystified | attempting install of nvidia-340 |
02:25.04 | mystified | are you familiar with this |
02:25.17 | mystified | I'm doing thris through synaptic |
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07:53.04 | mystified | Hi guys, new here & Happy New Year all |
07:53.24 | mystified | Just a couple of Qu |
07:55.33 | mystified | pkg installations, devuan binary pkgs are they any different to debians. What I'm getting at is installing pkgs that are built for Sysd different to devuan |
07:57.07 | mystified | So if I'm unable to install from Devuan repositories can I install from directly install from debian, without having to change the depends |
08:00.39 | rue_house | HAPPY NEW YEARS STRANGERW! |
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08:41.17 | mystified | Thx :rue-house |
08:45.25 | rue_house | I appear to have issued a word based strangers instead of string based :) |
09:50.32 | CenturionDan | mystified: there is no need to install from debian at allas we have everything from debian we don't build in our repos anyway |
09:53.16 | CenturionDan | We rebuild some packages to remove hard deps on systemd. |
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10:21.28 | mystified | CenturionDan Thx |
10:22.54 | mystified | what if I wish to install a pkg that is not in the Devuan repositories |
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10:23.09 | KatolaZ | mystified: everything that is in debian repos in in devuan repos, so far |
10:23.23 | KatolaZ | so if you need to install anything that is outside devuan repos |
10:23.32 | mystified | Fantastic. That answers that. |
10:23.36 | KatolaZ | you just proceeed as if you had a debian |
10:23.48 | mystified | ie git etc |
10:24.01 | mystified | just build exactly the same |
10:24.02 | KatolaZ | the only differences are in packages with systemd-related dependencies |
10:24.17 | KatolaZ | mystified: Devuan is a Debian without systemd |
10:24.20 | mystified | what does one do there |
10:24.31 | mystified | Thats why I'm here |
10:24.40 | mystified | I detest "SysD" |
10:27.11 | mystified | Is there a guide how to compile & how to add dependencies. That is my weak area. |
10:27.35 | mystified | I have no formal technical skills |
10:27.54 | mystified | Is Devuan openrc or sysV |
10:28.30 | KatolaZ | sysV so far |
10:28.49 | KatolaZ | mystified: compilation is the same as in Debian |
10:30.55 | KatolaZ | the same as in any other unix-like system |
10:33.26 | mystified | I still not sure on how to do that correctly. I'd like to learn. Where are some good tutorials. |
10:33.37 | mystified | I understand make install clean. |
10:33.39 | mystified | But |
10:34.18 | muep | there are common patterns to compiling things, but note that it also tends to vary between specific programs |
10:34.26 | mystified | when I have to add dependsor being able to identify when to use eg. qmakae cmake or json. etc |
10:34.58 | mystified | I don't know haoe to add to pkgbuild |
10:35.55 | muep | pkgbuild as in PKGBUILD files used in arch linux and its derivatives, or just package build in general? |
10:36.11 | mystified | Thx. |
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10:36.22 | KatolaZ | mystified: in devuan you use apt |
10:36.26 | KatolaZ | apt-get |
10:36.31 | KatolaZ | to install missing packages |
10:36.33 | mystified | yes. Understand. |
10:36.36 | muep | you will not be dealing with PKGBUILD files in debian or its relatives |
10:36.48 | mystified | I've been using binary for a number of yrs |
10:36.57 | mystified | But I'd like to learn more. |
10:37.45 | mystified | For nearly 6yrs i've been using deb/ubuntu systems. |
10:38.16 | mystified | About a yr ago I moved away to arch based distros. |
10:38.51 | mystified | I'm back here because I do not like the Sysd way of doing of things |
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10:40.33 | aitor | mystified: lo learn more about how to build packages for devuan? |
10:40.42 | mystified | A few months ago I installed Trueos(Bsd) love it. But there is to much that is beyond my level of understanding. Hence why I've come back deb base without the sysD. |
10:41.41 | mystified | Simple with apt, dpkg, aptitude |
10:42.28 | mystified | If it'sdificult it's easy to google to find the solution or user forums |
10:42.46 | aitor | mystified: dpkg-buildpackage or git-buildpackage |
10:43.12 | mystified | Thx aitor |
10:43.17 | aitor | there are some how-to's in the mailing list |
10:43.37 | mystified | I've never looked at mailing lists |
10:43.56 | aitor | but the best way is to start with a concrete example, and ask your doubts here or in the DNG |
10:44.16 | KatolaZ | aitor: I don't think mystified wants to create new deb packages.... |
10:44.35 | aitor | ok, only build things? |
10:44.45 | mystified | Yes just build ! |
10:45.03 | KatolaZ | yep |
10:45.23 | mystified | To be able to understand wht what & when to do something |
10:45.44 | aitor | it depends on the used tools for that |
10:45.45 | mystified | thats "why " |
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10:45.54 | mystified | exactly |
10:46.26 | aitor | in the most of the cases there is a configure file, or a Makefile or a CMakeLists |
10:46.28 | mystified | As i stated. I'm the blind leading the blind |
10:46.49 | mystified | Yes, I do rhat and it's still crashes. |
10:47.11 | Hestben | mystified: One handy thing in apt-get is the "apt-get build-dep <package>" to get all dependencies for a package |
10:47.18 | aitor | qmake is for Qt |
10:47.37 | mystified | Yes, familiar with them |
10:48.17 | Hestben | mystified: If you got a crash, then, you may get more help by asking the developers of that specific application |
10:48.22 | mystified | Follow the " Install notes" even look the configure logs. |
10:48.26 | aitor | for building purposes dpkg-checkbuilddeps as root in the parent directory |
10:48.40 | mystified | Thanks Aitor |
10:49.07 | muep | qmake for programs that ship a .pro file in them. Most of these use also Qt otherwise, but not all Qt-using programs are intended to be built with qmake |
10:49.29 | aitor | See you later, i'm working on simple-netaid-gtk and i'm getting a Segmentation fault |
10:49.35 | mystified | exactly, did not know that. |
10:49.35 | aitor | Arrrr |
10:50.03 | mystified | Sorry & thx |
10:57.09 | mystified | Hey what is "DNG" stand for Devuan something from aitor comment " and ask your doubts here or in the DNG " |
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11:05.58 | Hestben | mystified: I think it is about building packages for devuan, i.e. packages that can be distributed to other computers running devuan. Like .deb packages for debian. |
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11:13.29 | muep | mystified: DNG is a mailing list |
11:13.52 | fsmithred | DNG: Debian's Not Gnome |
11:16.14 | djph | and here I thought it was "Devuan News Group" |
11:16.51 | mystified | Thats it... News group |
11:17.02 | mystified | Thx |
11:17.28 | fsmithred | the mailing list is older than devuan |
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11:23.44 | mystified | Thanks to all, for your assistance. |
11:50.36 | djph | fsmithred: yeah, but I didn't get interested in devuan til I cared to look up what was going on with Ub 16.04 / Mint18, at which point "nope. time to find something else" |
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13:40.07 | DocScrutinizer05 | happy holidays! |
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13:45.34 | DocScrutinizer05 | day time increased from 8.16h at winter solstice (21st of Dec) to already 8,27h here |
13:48.48 | DocScrutinizer05 | interesting factoid: sunrise time stays almost same (08:11 to 08:09) while sunset gets later (from 16:18 to 16:27) |
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14:48.44 | mystified | Hi guys , I'm new here. |
14:48.54 | golinux | mystified: https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng |
14:49.12 | golinux | https://lists.dyne.org/lurker/list/dng.en.html |
14:49.14 | mystified | would like to install qbittorrent. |
14:49.42 | mystified | devuan has 3.1.10 |
14:49.58 | mystified | current is 3.3.9 |
14:50.18 | mystified | downloaded from source |
14:51.43 | mystified | is there a build essential base pkg here in devuan |
14:52.36 | golinux | mystified: Have you tried backports? |
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14:54.30 | mystified | for qbitt or build essentials |
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14:57.47 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~amprolla |
14:57.48 | infobot | nextime gave an excellent explanation how amprolla works, at https://botbot.me/freenode/devuan/2016-05-07/?msg=65646427&page=4, or https://git.devuan.org/devuan-infrastructure/amprolla |
14:59.03 | fsmithred | it's not in backports |
14:59.10 | fsmithred | qbitt |
14:59.33 | fsmithred | 3.3 in ascii if you like to live dangerously |
15:01.46 | DocScrutinizer05 | https://git.devuan.org/devuan-packages?utf8=%E2%9C%93&filter_projects=torrent seems to suggest "devuan's bittorrent" is actually the original debian version, so... |
15:02.30 | fsmithred | easy to tell by looking at the version number - it's doesn't say "devuan" in it. |
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15:17.47 | mystified | from synaptic version 3.1.10-1 |
15:19.46 | mystified | Installed qt5-qmake 5.3.2+dfsg-4+deb8u1 |
15:20.12 | mystified | and qt4-qmake 4:4.8.6+git64-g5dc8b2b+dfsg-3+deb8u1 |
15:20.33 | mystified | checking whether to install the systemd service file... no |
15:20.33 | mystified | checking whether to enable the WebUI... yes |
15:20.33 | mystified | checking whether Qt4 should be enabled... no |
15:20.33 | mystified | checking for /qmake... no |
15:20.33 | mystified | checking for /qmake-qt5... no |
15:20.34 | mystified | checking for Qt5 qmake >= 5.2.0... not found |
15:20.38 | mystified | configure: error: Could not find qmake |
15:21.28 | mystified | this from running ./configure |
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15:26.37 | zdzichu | check in config.log how exactly the test looks like |
15:26.46 | zdzichu | what command is being tested |
15:27.10 | mystified | ./configure |
15:27.33 | mystified | then tried make & make install |
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15:27.40 | ytrezq | Hello, how to convert a RUNPATH section section into an RPATH one in the case of an already compiled elf binary?? |
15:29.09 | zdzichu | mystified: look into content of config.log file |
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15:35.41 | mystified | No package 'Qt5Core' found |
15:35.41 | mystified | configure:4479: $? = 1 |
15:35.41 | mystified | configure:4508: checking for /qmake |
15:35.41 | mystified | configure:4522: result: no |
15:35.41 | mystified | configure:4528: checking for /qmake-qt5 |
15:35.42 | mystified | configure:4542: result: no |
15:35.44 | mystified | configure:4554: checking for Qt5 qmake >= 5.2.0 |
15:35.46 | mystified | configure:4560: result: not found |
15:35.48 | mystified | configure:4688: error: Could not find qmake |
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15:36.03 | DocScrutinizer05 | mystified: please use pastebin |
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15:36.29 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~paste |
15:36.29 | infobot | i guess paste is http://pastebin.org/ or http://bin.cakephp.org/ or http://pastebin.ca/ |
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15:45.47 | mystified | http://pastebin.com/NQfVBWJj |
15:48.04 | fsmithred | mystified, you want i386 or amd64? |
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15:48.36 | follinge | Is better zfs support planned with next release? Pretty much the only thing missing. |
15:48.41 | fsmithred | there are packages for 3.3.5 built for antix/MX15 (jessie) |
15:49.06 | follinge | Problem solved. Thanks a bunch. |
15:49.55 | fsmithred | follinge, is zfs supported in debian stretch? |
15:50.29 | mystified | _64 |
15:50.41 | fsmithred | http://main.mepis-deb.org/mx/repo/pool/main/q/qbittorrent/qbittorrent_3.3.5-0mx150+1_amd64.deb |
15:51.06 | mystified | wow |
15:51.11 | mystified | Thanks |
15:51.13 | fsmithred | http://main.mepis-deb.org/MX15packages.html |
15:51.19 | mystified | .deb even better |
15:51.32 | follinge | https://packages.debian.org/stretch/zfs-dkms |
15:51.34 | follinge | Indeed |
15:52.19 | fsmithred | $ apt-cache policy zfs-dkms |
15:52.19 | fsmithred | zfs-dkms: |
15:52.19 | fsmithred | <PROTECTED> |
15:52.19 | fsmithred | <PROTECTED> |
15:52.19 | fsmithred | <PROTECTED> |
15:52.20 | fsmithred | <PROTECTED> |
15:52.22 | fsmithred | <PROTECTED> |
15:52.24 | fsmithred | <PROTECTED> |
15:52.26 | fsmithred | <PROTECTED> |
15:52.59 | fsmithred | follinge, you don't have to wait for ascii |
15:54.05 | mystified | Fsmithred error Depend not satisfiable libtorrent rapster >=1.0.6X |
15:54.28 | follinge | Greatly appreciate it. I'll install and test today. Was going to use btrfs, but I'd rather roll with zfs. |
15:55.39 | fsmithred | mystified, I think you can fix it with 'apt-get -f install' |
15:58.08 | fsmithred | mystified, libtorrent-rasterbar8 is available in same mepis repo |
15:58.25 | fsmithred | 1.0.7 |
15:59.26 | mystified | libtorrent-rasterbar8 working |
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16:07.29 | mystified | @fsmithred installed but unable to find launcher in menu. |
16:07.57 | mystified | tried from terminal ./libtorrent |
16:08.01 | mystified | no luck |
16:10.14 | fsmithred | I don't think you want to run the library |
16:10.28 | fsmithred | isn't qbittorent in the menu? |
16:10.33 | mystified | ah |
16:10.35 | fsmithred | with the network apps? |
16:10.51 | mystified | now i need to install qbittorrent |
16:10.57 | fsmithred | which linux have you used before? |
16:11.22 | fsmithred | something debian-based or rpm-based? |
16:11.30 | mystified | ubuntu/elementary/ arch/debian |
16:11.38 | fsmithred | ok |
16:11.52 | fsmithred | mostly the same |
16:12.21 | mystified | ill try the ubuntu pkg |
16:12.31 | mystified | but they are sysd |
16:12.38 | mystified | will that make a diff |
16:14.02 | fsmithred | no |
16:14.21 | fsmithred | install the qbittorrent package again |
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16:15.09 | fsmithred | I meant "No, don't use the ubuntu package." |
16:22.51 | mystified | Thanks working now !!!!! |
16:22.58 | mystified | :) |
16:23.45 | fsmithred | mx-15 repo is pretty safe for taking selected packages |
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16:23.52 | fsmithred | I wouldn't go whole-hog with it |
16:25.37 | mystified | Fsmithred |
16:25.46 | mystified | That was my next question |
16:26.24 | mystified | I will keep that in mind for future |
16:26.36 | mystified | so Greeks are good for some things ! |
16:28.12 | mystified | Yasou ! |
16:28.22 | mystified | Yausou ! |
16:28.51 | mystified | or should it be yaisou |
16:29.58 | fsmithred | huh? |
16:30.15 | fsmithred | Greeks? |
16:31.57 | mystified | mx is a greek distro |
16:33.21 | fsmithred | does the greek part come from antix or mepis? |
16:33.59 | mystified | yes |
16:34.07 | mystified | both |
16:34.29 | fsmithred | so I just learned something new |
16:35.21 | fsmithred | I need to go shovel some ice. bbl |
16:37.48 | mystified | Thank again for your patience & gr8 help |
16:38.01 | golinux | mystified: country of origin is irrelevant here. |
16:38.54 | mystified | I know... But for the fun of it. |
16:39.25 | mystified | Considering how bad things are in Greece at the moment.. |
16:39.39 | golinux | Comments relating to such are not 'fun'. |
16:39.43 | mystified | It would hurt to give them a leg up ath the moment |
16:40.05 | mystified | why ? |
16:40.35 | mystified | Thee two good greek linux distros |
16:41.42 | mystified | whats wrong with giving them a little praise |
16:41.58 | golinux | I never thought of either of those as 'greek' distros and have hung out there quite a bit. Your filters are mis-perceiving a bit. |
16:42.31 | mystified | Ok.. |
16:43.07 | mystified | Is it to racial & that I may be offending Greeks. ! |
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20:58.35 | TorC | New to Devuan, and thinking to upgrade from Debian Jessie. Looks like the change is just a matter of switching repo URLs and upgrading? Also, I'm using backports, but haven't managed to find the URL for that, if someone could post that for me. |
21:00.43 | cyteen | deb http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/merged jessie-backports main contrib |
21:03.53 | TorC | Thanks. Editing sources.list now. |
21:04.26 | TorC | Tempted by Ascii for the newer packages, but I'm not sure I want to deal with that quite yet. |
21:04.30 | Centurion_Dan | TorC: you'll need to apt-get install devuan-keyring first |
21:05.01 | TorC | I did find that note, but promptly forgot it. Thanks for the reminder |
21:05.26 | Centurion_Dan | Torc, Ascii is not something I recommend at this point in time as it's missing a lot of devuan forked packages at this stage. |
21:06.13 | TorC | Not surprised. Information is still a little hard to come by on the website at this point. |
21:06.28 | Centurion_Dan | the focus is squarely on pushing out Jessie at the moment. |
21:06.53 | TorC | Makes sense, and needed. |
21:13.48 | TorC | devuan keyring is untrusted, but I figure that's expected bootstrapping. |
21:14.25 | Fervi | so install it and apt-get update |
21:15.47 | TorC | Done. Apt seems to be failing to get jessie updates, both main and contrib, binary and source. IP: 46.105.191.77:80 |
21:16.33 | TorC | I get a 404 on it. |
21:18.45 | TorC | Oh, that looks like it. Debian uses /jessie/updates, but Devuan seems to be /jessie-updates |
21:19.17 | TorC | Seems to have been something to do with an alternate mirror I had set up. |
21:21.13 | TorC | Thanks cyteen, Centurion_Dan, and Fervi. Dowloading updates now. |
21:21.51 | TorC | It'll be time to restart my system anyway, after 139 days. Past time, one might say. |
21:36.52 | Xenguy | TorC: Curious how it goes; I have a wheezy box that I'd like to migrate to devuan sometime soon, as long as it's not too risky a migration |
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21:55.23 | golinux | Xenguy: https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=20 Migration HowTo |
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22:06.21 | TorC | Xenguy: Have to reboot to get off systemd to actually remove it. If I don't remember to let you know, give me a poke when I get back on. |
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22:30.27 | aitor | hi: solved the pointer error in simple-netaid-gtk |
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22:42.18 | TorC | Xenguy: Well, for about five minutes use after completing, the switch seems to be flawless. For coming from Wheezy, you'll probably have the usual issues with upgrading one version to another |
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22:56.09 | Centurion_Dan | TorC: Actually my experience is that it upgrades from wheezy are equally seemless, although it's a little while since I last did one. |
22:58.44 | Xenguy | Thanks guys... |
22:59.27 | Xenguy | I have to be careful because that box is basically my gateway/router currently, so if the upgrade fails, I'm off the Net |
22:59.43 | Xenguy | Single point of failure and all that |
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23:08.46 | TorC | Centurion_Dan: I'm not surprised that is the case. Usually to upgrade I decide it's a good time to flush all the random packages I installed but have discontinued use of. |
23:09.03 | TorC | Thus, I typically nuke / and install the new version from scratch. |
23:10.06 | TorC | Helps that /home has always lived on a separate partition for me. |
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23:47.24 | Centurion_Dan | TorC: Indeed. The problem is retaining /etc/passwd & /etc/shadow and /etc/group etc. |
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23:59.53 | Centurion_Dan | I find I tend to do clean install for new hardware only unless I've really hosed things (like usually from tracking unstable & experimental) |