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| 03:40.30 | AlexLikeRock | feliz navidad amigos |
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| 04:33.49 | MinceR | feliz gravidad |
| 04:36.27 | MinceR | (also, https://danamorris.files.wordpress.com/2015/12/for-lease-navidad.jpg ) |
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| 05:33.27 | AlexLikeRock | feliz navidad MinceR |
| 05:33.51 | AlexLikeRock | y a todos |
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| 06:06.41 | joostvb | feliz navidad! |
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| 06:12.41 | robert-e | To all..the best of Christmas, for all your loved ones...and to all you know who are in need. |
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| 10:12.49 | aitor | eguberri on guztioi !! |
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| 10:49.16 | aitor | Esti_Qatzi: Estibaliz? |
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| 14:49.01 | wdadw2 | Hello, where can I get ascii-netinst instead of jessie? Or how can I choose realease version in devuan installer like on previous ones? |
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| 14:58.16 | buZz | the non-gui installer is inside the netinst image |
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| 14:59.46 | DusXMT | wdadw2: I don't know if they changed it, but back in the day, you'd choose "advanced install" in the bootloader, and then it would ask you for the release when selecting a repository |
| 15:04.44 | wdadw2 | DusXMT: yep, don't work no more, so seems like I need to dist-upgrade everytime :) |
| 15:14.21 | DusXMT | wdadw2: Wait, you'd rather always reinstall than upgrade your system? |
| 15:14.44 | DusXMT | And you can always install a system "manually" with debootstrap |
| 15:16.08 | DusXMT | Also, aptitude supposedly handles dependencies better, so that might make upgrading easier :3 I haven't had an issue with it yet |
| 15:16.33 | DusXMT | (but apt-get is faster, quite noticable on embedded hardware) |
| 15:17.17 | wdadw2 | yes I can, but is it linux way? :) Don't get why they removed that feature in beta installer |
| 15:17.35 | DusXMT | "linux way"? |
| 15:17.39 | DusXMT | That'd be systemd :3 |
| 15:19.23 | peetaur | aptitude corrupted systems beyond repair at one point... I stopped using it for install since then |
| 15:19.33 | wdadw2 | Sometimes I wish it to be so simple like on systemd, but on different parts of linux :) |
| 15:19.41 | peetaur | they said the bug was fixed and had to do with multiarch or something....but it broke mine after that I think |
| 15:20.18 | wdadw2 | as simple as I mean :D |
| 15:21.10 | DusXMT | unix was never intended to be simple, to be a "consumer product" :) |
| 15:21.14 | DusXMT | peetaur: good to know |
| 15:21.28 | DusXMT | s/simple/"simple"/ |
| 15:21.57 | wdadw2 | but It starts to be something like that with all that SteamOS, Linux Mint e.t.c. |
| 15:22.39 | DusXMT | Or perhaps the NeXT operating system; but that's not the issue |
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| 16:01.24 | DarkUranium | hi |
| 16:01.33 | DarkUranium | so, is Devuan usable(ish) on the desktop yet? |
| 16:03.19 | fsmithred | DarkUranium, I've been using it since February |
| 16:03.34 | fsmithred | It seems as good as previous versions of debian |
| 16:04.33 | DarkUranium | not sure if that's a good thing or a bad thing, given where Debian's been going :P |
| 16:04.42 | DarkUranium | but I'll give it a shot, then |
| 16:04.46 | fsmithred | I said previous |
| 16:04.58 | DarkUranium | would've used FreeBSD (I use it on the desktop), but I want optimus support |
| 16:09.23 | fsmithred | jessie is quite stable. ascii (testing) hasn't gotten a lot of attention, so there are some rough edges. |
| 16:11.01 | DusXMT | xfce works as intended, no issues so far |
| 16:11.54 | fsmithred | last I tried, xorg won't start unless you have a display manager |
| 16:12.16 | fsmithred | and something I wanted required libsystemd0 |
| 16:12.25 | fsmithred | running without that on jessie |
| 16:12.48 | fsmithred | gotta go |
| 16:12.58 | fsmithred | merry christmas |
| 16:13.02 | golinux | \o |
| 16:13.14 | golinux | grumbles |
| 16:16.11 | DusXMT | I wonder... Is there a security risk in running an older version of Xorg from a chroot (since current versions don't support this machine's graphics hardware; well, they do, but it's unstable and crashes often, and it's an obsolete first generation laptop card so I don't expect anyone to fix it), with listening on TCP disabled and only using programs I trust? |
| 16:16.56 | DusXMT | *obsolete first generation Radeon laptop card |
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| 21:01.07 | Centurion_Dan | o/ |
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| 21:43.38 | aitor | \o |
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| 21:53.09 | golinux | aitor: Earlier today stevelitt was asking about vdev pkgs. Is this still where he can get them? http://packages.gnuinos.org/ |
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